I find it quite difficult now to follow this thread, I see the answer to
some emails that are not even in the thread...
Anyway, I just want to answer to this specific sentence of Nathan: This is
only technical issues, nothing more. But I hate that it takes one year to
see it fixed.
Well, Nathan,
A slightly unrelated problem:
Would it be possible to include the findstat functionality in sage? That
is, i have a bunch of pairs (permutation, number), then call the function
findtsta on them, and get a list of possible ways that the numbers can me
computed from the permutations. All inside
Yo !
I find it quite difficult now to follow this thread, I see the answer to
some emails that are not even in the thread...
This is because it was sent to both sage-devel and sage-combinat. After a
while somebody anwers to only one group and mess follows.
Anyway, I just want to answer to
Would it be possible to include the findstat functionality in sage?
It is possible to write the code, and desirable. As the Sage is
open-source, you are also welcome to give it a try if you need the feature.
Sage already queries the OEIS, though for FindStat you will probably have
to design some
Since you ask, here is a thread where you have insulted me repeatedly:
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16403
Others might think I have asked for it, but that's a different question,
and we can have that debate too if you want. But if we are going to have
that debate, I would ask that you first
Would it be possible to include the findstat functionality in sage? That is,
i have a bunch of pairs (permutation, number), then call the function
findtsta on them, and get a list of possible ways that the numbers can me
computed from the permutations. All inside sage, without need to go to
Hi Mmarco,
This is a functionality many of us would want too. The question that is
unclear is how to implement it in the best way. What Nathann refers to as
some kind of protocol to transfer the combinatorial objects is a very
hard problem. Fortunately, many people are starting to realise that
-- It will not be possible (say within the next two years, except the
unlikely event that I will a lottery without participating, and then
spend some money to hire a professional programmer) to only query the
statistics data, and do the computations within your own Sage.
Just to make this
Just to make this statement more precise: it will not be possible within the
next two years if Mmarco relies on your availability for this (there is no
blame in that statement, it's just a clarification that others might be
willing to work on this problem).
It is not a problem -- it's the
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread...
so let me repeat
There are two disjoint tasks:
- add semantic to Map and Morphism (Sage)
- gather the list of meaningful maps (Sage/FindStat)
First of all, most of us agree that we need more semantic at the level
of maps.
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread... so let
me repeat
I did -- but didn't really have any qualified contribution...
But the semantic has to be implemented at the level of maps not at the level
of methods.
could you explain what you mean there (maybe using
Hi Christian,
2014-05-28 11:32 UTC+02:00, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com:
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread... so
let me repeat
I did -- but didn't really have any qualified contribution...
But the semantic has to be implemented at the level of
Vincent, I did read your email, which is very good. Thank you for posting.
Unfortunately it is too focused for my taste. I would like to solve the
generic problem of how to put in semantic information in sage first. Many
might say let's solve one problem first, but in my mind it is already three
The second step would be to think how to add semantic to the map. Part
of is already managed by the axioms/categories (for example a Morphism
between GradedSets preserve the grading). But there is nothing for
injectivity/surjectivity or more subtle properties.
Thanks for the clarification! I
Hi Vincent,
On 2014-05-28, Vincent Delecroix 20100.delecr...@gmail.com wrote:
A method ( = a Python function) is not a Sage Map ( = a Python object
that model a mathematical function). I would like first to convert the
method into a map
Which is trivially possible, see
Hi Christian,
On 2014-05-28, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com wrote:
-- Can I turn any method in Sage which mimics a mathematical function
into a map in the above sense? To put it differently: Is it right that
there are always (or almost always) parents available to use as domain
and
Ceterum censeo: Please do not put too much semantic into an attribute of
the map. It will be a burden for the map, will cost memory, and will be
difficult to search.
I would personally really like to get semantic information about maps
implemented in Sage. This starts with automated
Christian's point is key. The absolute hardest problem to solve is where to
anchor semantic information so that others can contribute to it easily,
because his project requires lots of microcontributions (cf. Nielsen's
Reinventing Discovery)
Right now, by lack of a better place, it is put in sage.
Hi Christian,
On 2014-05-28, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com wrote:
But how am I then convincing
someone knowing that information to add that information there?
Ask him/her to put @combinatorial_map in front of the method in
question. In other words, there should be no need to change
Hi Christian,
2014-05-28 15:21 UTC+02:00, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com:
The second step would be to think how to add semantic to the map. Part
of is already managed by the axioms/categories (for example a Morphism
-- How do you think more semantic should be implemented? As a dict
Yo !
I agree 100% with your summary, Simon, except that
1) Nathann will have to say himself whether he agrees or not;
I think that the first time I said it was on the 20/6/2013 (one year ago):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/SnPfidRM9j8/u7f4X-cLlrsJ
Quote : Well, just returning the
Hi Paul,
2014-05-28 17:42 UTC+02:00, Paul-Olivier Dehaye
paul-olivier.deh...@math.uzh.ch:
I agree 100% with your summary, Simon, except that
1) Nathann will have to say himself whether he agrees or not;
Please at some point stop the flame.
2) A decision should be made whether it is valid to
I think we all agree on this idea now (that the decorator should not wrap
the method), so there is no point in keeping the argument.
Still, I have asked a few questions on which I'd like you guys opinions:
- what's the best way to store this information? Nathan and Simon mentioned
database,
Hi Vivianne,
2014-05-28 19:32 UTC+02:00, Viviane Pons vivianep...@gmail.com:
I think we all agree on this idea now (that the decorator should not wrap
the method), so there is no point in keeping the argument.
Still, I have asked a few questions on which I'd like you guys opinions:
- what's
E.g., it should know domain and codomain, and it should know
what category it belongs to. I think it makes sense to let a morphism
know whether it is injective or surjective. However, additional
information that is certainly interesting to researchers (e.g.: Was first
defined by John
Hi Paul,
On 2014-05-28, Paul-Olivier Dehaye paul-olivier.deh...@math.uzh.ch wrote:
Two comments:
- Nathann is arguing that no empty methods/classes should be present.
Is he? Sorry, then this is a point where Nathann and I do not agree. I
find abstract methods useful. I thought that his main
Hello !!!
Is he? Sorry, then this is a point where Nathann and I do not agree.
I don't even know what I think anymore. With the turn that events take, I
think I don't even need to think anymore. I think that I will think what
you think I think, it is much easier for me.
find abstract methods
OK, great, thanks for clarifying!
Am Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 20:53:36 UTC+2 schrieb Simon King:
Hi Martin,
On 2014-05-28, 'Martin R' via sage-combinat-devel
sage-comb...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote:
E.g., it should know domain and codomain, and it should know
what category it
Hi Vincent
The wikipedia definition of flaming has the words hostile and
insulting. I have certainly been hostile towards Nathann, and have
explicitly explained to him early on why he was wrong and why I was being
hostile. It is part of academic discourse to have heated discussions,
because we
@Nathann, Simon:
There is certainly a lot of misunderstandings between all of us. Both ways.
The discussion was started because of a suggestion, turned into a ticket
written by Nathann. Currently that ticket's description is in complete
contradiction to what you seem to describe on the mailing
At some point we will need a summary, or to use something better than
mailing lists to discuss this.
Paul
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I think an argument that this function is badly named is very sensible.
Maybe a better name would be to_component_sizes. Why not just try
changing the name, and see how much work that is for the findstat group to
adapt. It might be that this does not want to be named, after all, and that
simply an
Again, in the big wave of emails, this one also got misdirected:
Hi everyone,
I am looking for people who want to help me, in one way or another, bring
hundreds of new first time contributors to sage. If I do not find enough
partners, I will look for other more suitable python-based projects.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Paul-Olivier Dehaye
paul-olivier.deh...@math.uzh.ch wrote:
In the big wave of emails exchanged today, I sent this one, by accident to
the wrong mailing list. I recopy it below:
When I went to pycon, the most important thing I learned is the importance
of a
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Paul-Olivier Dehaye
paul-olivier.deh...@math.uzh.ch wrote:
Again, in the big wave of emails, this one also got misdirected:
Hi everyone,
I am looking for people who want to help me, in one way or another, bring
hundreds of new first time contributors to sage.
Out of my confused state after a long day:
I think I still want sage to be a free open source alternative , and its
primary audience to be typical users of the Ma's. But the Ma's have indeed
evolved since 2005. Maybe it might be worth, as a start, listing how they
have changed? The goal of the
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Paul-Olivier Dehaye
paul-olivier.deh...@math.uzh.ch wrote:
Out of my confused state after a long day:
I think I still want sage to be a free open source alternative , and its
primary audience to be typical users of the Ma's. But the Ma's have indeed
evolved
Okay here's where I think we are, and my 2 cents in the matter.
Simon wants to have a database which stores the map information which is
constructed by the decorator @combinatorial_map in order to not have it
cause any slowdowns. The question is, how to do this?
Here's my 2 cents of a
Hi,
Reading through the documentation (from the latest beta) on the coercion
framework and category framework, it isn't exactly clear to me what the
recommended way to implement a new Parent/Element pair as part of the Sage
ecosystem.
For instance, what is the recommended class I should inherit
A slightly unrelated problem:
Would it be possible to include the findstat functionality in sage? That
is, i have a bunch of pairs (permutation, number), then call the function
findtsta on them, and get a list of possible ways that the numbers can me
computed from the permutations. All inside
Yo !
I find it quite difficult now to follow this thread, I see the answer to
some emails that are not even in the thread...
This is because it was sent to both sage-devel and sage-combinat. After a
while somebody anwers to only one group and mess follows.
Anyway, I just want to answer to
Would it be possible to include the findstat functionality in sage?
It is possible to write the code, and desirable. As the Sage is
open-source, you are also welcome to give it a try if you need the feature.
Sage already queries the OEIS, though for FindStat you will probably have
to design some
Since you ask, here is a thread where you have insulted me repeatedly:
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16403
Others might think I have asked for it, but that's a different question,
and we can have that debate too if you want. But if we are going to have
that debate, I would ask that you first
Would it be possible to include the findstat functionality in sage? That is,
i have a bunch of pairs (permutation, number), then call the function
findtsta on them, and get a list of possible ways that the numbers can me
computed from the permutations. All inside sage, without need to go to
Hi Mmarco,
This is a functionality many of us would want too. The question that is
unclear is how to implement it in the best way. What Nathann refers to as
some kind of protocol to transfer the combinatorial objects is a very
hard problem. Fortunately, many people are starting to realise that
-- It will not be possible (say within the next two years, except the
unlikely event that I will a lottery without participating, and then
spend some money to hire a professional programmer) to only query the
statistics data, and do the computations within your own Sage.
Just to make this
On 28 May 2014 00:51, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote:
Could this be related ?
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16384
I do not understand much about categories, but if we implement
multiplication by a positive integer for semigroups and multiplication by a
negative integer for
Mathematically that is exactly right, there is no difference between
Z-module and abelian group just as there is none between
(commutative) Z-algebra and ring. We know this, but the point was
whether the two things could or should be distinguished in Sage.
Well, if the ticket given above
Just to make this statement more precise: it will not be possible within the
next two years if Mmarco relies on your availability for this (there is no
blame in that statement, it's just a clarification that others might be
willing to work on this problem).
It is not a problem -- it's the
On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 01:12:01 UTC+1, leif wrote:
Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Is there anything short of make distclean make to fix the stuck
docbuild:
By stuck I mean that I run make and
the output (and logs/dochtml.log) getting stuck at
[history_a] no targets are
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread...
so let me repeat
There are two disjoint tasks:
- add semantic to Map and Morphism (Sage)
- gather the list of meaningful maps (Sage/FindStat)
First of all, most of us agree that we need more semantic at the level
of maps.
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread... so let
me repeat
I did -- but didn't really have any qualified contribution...
But the semantic has to be implemented at the level of maps not at the level
of methods.
could you explain what you mean there (maybe using
It happens here on SageMathCloud which is 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu
x86_64
but not OpenSuSE-12.3
on
AMD, at least so far.
I am not sure if it's connected to Out of
Memory errors that I'm seeing too recently on SMC.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com
Hi Nathann,
On 2014-05-27, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not understand much about categories, but if we implement
multiplication by a positive integer for semigroups and multiplication by a
negative integer for semigroup with inverse, won't this automatically give
a
Hi Christian,
2014-05-28 11:32 UTC+02:00, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com:
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread... so
let me repeat
I did -- but didn't really have any qualified contribution...
But the semantic has to be implemented at the level of
Hi Andrew,
On 2014-05-28, R. Andrew Ohana andrew.oh...@gmail.com wrote:
For instance, what is the recommended class I should inherit from for my
parent class? I see at the top of sage.rings.rings, that it is not
recommended that I inherit from the Ring class anymore (maybe?),
REALLY? Why is
Is there an error further up in the log? Strace the hanging process?
Sometimes you need to run sage -sync-build.
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:22:06 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Is there anything short of make distclean make to fix the stuck
docbuild:
By stuck I mean that I run make
In principle it could work for other projects, all it assumes is git and a
trac install with xmlrpc enabled and a few custom trac fields (namely
Branch and Commit).
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:57:04 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote:
https://github.com/sagemath/git-trac-command
(It's IMHO a bit
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:59:17 AM UTC+1, John H Palmieri wrote:
I think that if you do sage -i git_trac, it should install it for you.
Works but will give you an older version. It should work, but if you run
into problems you should try the newest version first. Also, it'll be
erased by
Vincent, I did read your email, which is very good. Thank you for posting.
Unfortunately it is too focused for my taste. I would like to solve the
generic problem of how to put in semantic information in sage first. Many
might say let's solve one problem first, but in my mind it is already three
Hi Ivan!
thanks for your rapid reply! I only got to the problematic computer
today. So:
%colors NoColor
works (which is wonderful!), but
https://bitbucket.org/gvol/sage-mode/downloads/sage_mode-0.11.spkg
doesn't :-(
Martin
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Volker Braun wrote:
Is there an error further up in the log? Strace the hanging proces
Sometimes you need to run sage -sync-build.
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:22:06 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Is there anything short of make distclean make to fix the stuck
docbuild:
By
Volker Braun wrote:
Is there an error further up in the log?
Only the usual GAP foo (cannot extend the workspace further or
something like that).
Strace the hanging process?
Already did that; the problem is that it's busy waiting (i.e., polling).
Each time I kill the process it is
leif wrote:
Volker Braun wrote:
Is there an error further up in the log?
Only the usual GAP foo (cannot extend the workspace further or
something like that).
Strace the hanging process?
Already did that; the problem is that it's busy waiting (i.e., polling).
Each time I kill the process
This is very very easy on you Don't you feel any responsibility at all
for what you put into Sage ? We had a conversation one year ago about ways
to fix that, one of which seems to suit you as you said on sage-devel just
yesterday. And when several persons tell you that your design has a
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Stephen Kauffman
strangerl...@gmail.com wrote:
Trying to run a file in a worksheet in sagemathcloud with
load('./2014-05-27-151639/SPexample5.sage')
but every (seemingly reasonable) path I try bombs with file not found
the folder 2014-05-27-151639 is in
On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 13:56:16 UTC+1, leif wrote:
leif wrote:
Volker Braun wrote:
Is there an error further up in the log?
Only the usual GAP foo (cannot extend the workspace further or
something like that).
Strace the hanging process?
Already did that; the
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:28:58 PM UTC+1, leif wrote:
Strace the hanging process?
Already did that; the problem is that it's busy waiting (i.e., polling).
Each time I kill the process it is waiting for [...]
So whats that process doing? strace -ff and then sort out which
subprocess
The second step would be to think how to add semantic to the map. Part
of is already managed by the axioms/categories (for example a Morphism
between GradedSets preserve the grading). But there is nothing for
injectivity/surjectivity or more subtle properties.
Thanks for the clarification! I
Vincent I had read your post but I hadn't understood that you wanted
something like this. This Map class seems a really good idea to me, it
looks like our combinatorial map class that we use to wrap the methods but
improved.
After this discussion, the way I would see things would be:
* having a
Volker Braun wrote:
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:28:58 PM UTC+1, leif wrote:
Strace the hanging process?
Already did that; the problem is that it's busy waiting (i.e.,
polling).
Each time I kill the process it is waiting for [...]
So whats that process doing?
As
Hi!
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:54:22AM +0200, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
Hi Christian,
2014-05-28 11:32 UTC+02:00, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.com:
It seems that actually nobody read my initial post on that thread... so
let me repeat
I did -- but didn't really have any
Some comments:
Non-underscore attributes implement a mutable interface. You are inviting
your users to modify field.tensor_type = (1,2), which will almost certanly
lead to inconsistent objects. In Sage, the convention is generally to use
underscore attributes and ensure immutability through
I was able to get it to work again (at least with 6.3.beta1) by running
make distclean make doc-clean make.
Best,
Travis
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:48:13 AM UTC-7, leif wrote:
Volker Braun wrote:
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:28:58 PM UTC+1, leif wrote:
Strace the hanging
Thank you for these comments. I'll modify the code accordingly!
Eric.
Le mercredi 28 mai 2014 16:23:20 UTC+2, Volker Braun a écrit :
Some comments:
Non-underscore attributes implement a mutable interface. You are inviting
your users to modify field.tensor_type = (1,2), which will almost
At some point, someone(s) should sit down and make all of the old parents
into the new Parent class. This might have to be done all at once (at least
the one time I tried to change homset IIRC) and will likely take a full day
plus.
Best,
Travis
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Ceterum censeo: Please do not put too much semantic into an attribute of
the map. It will be a burden for the map, will cost memory, and will be
difficult to search.
I would personally really like to get semantic information about maps
implemented in Sage. This starts with automated
Christian's point is key. The absolute hardest problem to solve is where to
anchor semantic information so that others can contribute to it easily,
because his project requires lots of microcontributions (cf. Nielsen's
Reinventing Discovery)
Right now, by lack of a better place, it is put in sage.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:14:03PM +0200, Vincent Delecroix wrote:
A module over ZZ is the same thing as an Abelian group. Why do we have
two distinct categories ?
This issue is mentioned on http://trac.sagemath.org/wiki/CategoriesRoadMap.
So far, the two categories have not been merged for a
On 2014-05-28, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:28:58 PM UTC+1, leif wrote:
Strace the hanging process?
Already did that; the problem is that it's busy waiting (i.e., polling).
Each time I kill the process it is waiting for [...]
So whats that
Hi Nicolas,
On 2014-05-28, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
So far, the two categories have not been merged for a stupid
bootstrapping reason: to construct Modules(ZZ), we need to construct
ZZ. To construct ZZ, an abelian group, we need to construct the
category
On 2014-05-28, Travis Scrimshaw tsc...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
I was able to get it to work again (at least with 6.3.beta1) by running
make distclean make doc-clean make.
yes, I mentioned that make distclean... does fix things,
but this is not what one wants to do, IMHO, unless you work on a
Two comments:
- Nathann is arguing that no empty methods/classes should be present.
Which means to me that he doesn t see the value of semantic information in
itself
- They are not building a database. They are putting tags in the code that
allow them at runtime to build something that amounts
I agree 100% with your summary, Simon, except that
1) Nathann will have to say himself whether he agrees or not;
2) A decision should be made whether it is valid to introduce lots of empty
methods and classes simply for the semantic decorators that will be added.
Paul
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How do you exclude out of memory? On SMC for 12 hours now, there are no
more doc builds being stuck, but also no more out-of-memory which I got
yesterday.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
This is multiprocessing.pool waiting for children to finish. The
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:23:20 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote:
Non-underscore attributes implement a mutable interface.
I wasn't aware of that convention. Is it documented somewhere, with
rationale?
I've indeed seen constant instance attributes accessed via accessors and
was aware of the
Ralf Stephan wrote:
How do you exclude out of memory?
Having more than 16 GB of free memory available?
-leif
On SMC for 12 hours now, there are no
more doc builds being stuck, but also no more out-of-memory which I got
yesterday.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Volker Braun
Hi Paul,
2014-05-28 17:42 UTC+02:00, Paul-Olivier Dehaye
paul-olivier.deh...@math.uzh.ch:
I agree 100% with your summary, Simon, except that
1) Nathann will have to say himself whether he agrees or not;
Please at some point stop the flame.
2) A decision should be made whether it is valid to
Yo !
I agree 100% with your summary, Simon, except that
1) Nathann will have to say himself whether he agrees or not;
I think that the first time I said it was on the 20/6/2013 (one year ago):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/SnPfidRM9j8/u7f4X-cLlrsJ
Quote : Well, just returning the
Some comments:
By not hiding attributes (not using underscores like self._manifold) you
implement a mutable interface, essentially inviting users to change them.
This of course will generally not work (e.g. reach into ZeroScalarField and
making it non-zero). It also prevents you from ever
I am trying to install sage-6.2 from source on a Macbook Air (Mid 2011)
running OSX 10.9.3. Xcode is installed and I believe up to date. I get the
following error message:
Host system:
Darwin mac 13.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.2.0: Thu Apr 17 23:03:13 PDT
2014;
I think we all agree on this idea now (that the decorator should not wrap
the method), so there is no point in keeping the argument.
Still, I have asked a few questions on which I'd like you guys opinions:
- what's the best way to store this information? Nathan and Simon mentioned
database,
Hi Vivianne,
2014-05-28 19:32 UTC+02:00, Viviane Pons vivianep...@gmail.com:
I think we all agree on this idea now (that the decorator should not wrap
the method), so there is no point in keeping the argument.
Still, I have asked a few questions on which I'd like you guys opinions:
- what's
On 2014-05-28, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:
This is multiprocessing.pool waiting for children to finish.
To finish, or to start?
The question is what happened to the children.
They are seemingly alive, but don't do anything at all, according to
dtruss.
The main process occupies
On 2014-05-28, Stephen Doty s.r.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to install sage-6.2 from source on a Macbook Air (Mid 2011)
running OSX 10.9.3. Xcode is installed and I believe up to date. I get the
are Command Line Tools installed? They are needed.
(check out Command Line Tools in Xcode's
Hello !!!
Is he? Sorry, then this is a point where Nathann and I do not agree.
I don't even know what I think anymore. With the turn that events take, I
think I don't even need to think anymore. I think that I will think what
you think I think, it is much easier for me.
find abstract methods
Hi,
Thanks. I have a project in SageMathCloud titled SpaceTime. I created a
directory under this project named 2014-05-27-151639 and uploaded files
spalgebra.sagews and SPexample5.sage. When I click on the directory in the
cloud I see a house icon followed by a forward slash followed by
Hi Vincent
The wikipedia definition of flaming has the words hostile and
insulting. I have certainly been hostile towards Nathann, and have
explicitly explained to him early on why he was wrong and why I was being
hostile. It is part of academic discourse to have heated discussions,
because we
@Nathann, Simon:
There is certainly a lot of misunderstandings between all of us. Both ways.
The discussion was started because of a suggestion, turned into a ticket
written by Nathann. Currently that ticket's description is in complete
contradiction to what you seem to describe on the mailing
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