[sage-devel] 2nd CfP: Conference on Intelligent Computer Mathematics July'15 Washington DC

2015-02-03 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
copies due:1 June 2015 More detailed information, e.g. on submission via EasyChair and the Springer LNAI format, can be found on http://cicm-conference.org/2015/cicm.php Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye

[sage-devel] Conference on Intelligent Computer Mathematics

2015-01-13 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
-conference.org/2015/cicm.php?event=sysprojmenu=general The abstract submission deadline is February 16 2015. Paul Dehaye Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt -- You received this message because you

[sage-devel] Participation to consultation workshop

2014-10-21 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
, if there are drafts of EU proposals to show around to get feedback... Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Sage Days 64

2014-09-09 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Dear Anne, 2^6 4 Sincerely, Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.edu wrote: Dear All! Dan Bump, Travis Scrimshaw and I

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Sage Days 64

2014-09-09 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Dear Anne, 2^6 4 Sincerely, Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.edu wrote: Dear All! Dan Bump, Travis Scrimshaw and I

[sage-combinat-devel] H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
This might be of interest to the sage communities https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/node/72901/subscribe Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
with, on or for mathematics and ICT. Thanking in advance – we will come back to the workshop. Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote

[sage-devel] H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
This might be of interest to the sage communities https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/node/72901/subscribe Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: H2020: Mathematics and Digital Science

2014-08-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
with, on or for mathematics and ICT. Thanking in advance – we will come back to the workshop. Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich http://user.math.uzh.ch/dehaye/contact_info.txt On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Talk

2014-07-10 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
bravo! Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye twitter: massiveteaching freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Viviane Pons vivianep

[sage-devel] twitter experiment

2014-07-02 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Please spread (Please spread over #twitter during all #WorldCup to fight #FacebookExperiment) #MassiveTeaching Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
is both extra eyes and a community welcoming of new ideas. That's what the polymath projects do, and they have been quite successful so far, proving results that had vexed Fields medalists. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-30 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Yes, that is my point. I just mentioned this as a quick way to show a plain, clear and direct use case. I didn't want to pick a more exciting and speculative one. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76

[sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-30 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
is both extra eyes and a community welcoming of new ideas. That's what the polymath projects do, and they have been quite successful so far, proving results that had vexed Fields medalists. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-30 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Yes, that is my point. I just mentioned this as a quick way to show a plain, clear and direct use case. I didn't want to pick a more exciting and speculative one. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: Again, in the big wave of emails, this one also got misdirected: Hi everyone, I am looking for people who want to help me, in one way or another, bring hundreds of new first time contributors to sage. If I do not find enough partners, I will look for other more

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I might be too, I am not quite sure! Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
+1 for subtlety! Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
and respect that. But did you _really_ use to think that the Graph class was yours, in the sense that you had veto rights on it? I am assuming that's the class you are referring to. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
to be a Partition but is in fact a list). Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Nicolas M

[sage-devel] Re: Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: Again, in the big wave of emails, this one also got misdirected: Hi everyone, I am looking for people who want to help me, in one way or another, bring hundreds of new first time contributors to sage. If I do not find enough partners, I will look for other more

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I might be too, I am not quite sure! Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
+1 for subtlety! Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
and respect that. But did you _really_ use to think that the Graph class was yours, in the sense that you had veto rights on it? I am assuming that's the class you are referring to. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
to be a Partition but is in fact a list). Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Nicolas M

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-29 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
There is definitely frustration on both sides. My offer for you to come and talk in Zurich is serious, it's easier to talk in person. We could even invite you to a seminar to talk about mathematics. Then we go chill out somewhere and we talk about sage. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Assistant

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
popcorn and know of where to watch. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
editing documentation). People are actively working on this problem Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
-- It will not be possible (say within the next two years, except the unlikely event that I will a lottery without participating, and then spend some money to hire a professional programmer) to only query the statistics data, and do the computations within your own Sage. Just to make this

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
approach in my mind. I certainly don't want to develop anything without explicitly telling findstat about it. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.comwrote: Ceterum

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
reading in an email he sent after yours). Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Vincent Delecroix 20100

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
. I am genuinely keeping an open mind about implementation. I want him to improve what's there, not remove, if he cares enough. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
At some point we will need a summary, or to use something better than mailing lists to discuss this. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I think an argument that this function is badly named is very sensible. Maybe a better name would be to_component_sizes. Why not just try changing the name, and see how much work that is for the findstat group to adapt. It might be that this does not want to be named, after all, and that simply an

[sage-combinat-devel] Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
of around October-November, and to bring the discussion off the mailing list (to private) so as to keep an element of surprise for the students. Let me know! Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Diversity to foster sage development

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
of the exercise would not be to copycat what they do, but maybe to understand how the Ma's pipelines work now. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
popcorn and know of where to watch. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
editing documentation). People are actively working on this problem Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:01 AM

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
-- It will not be possible (say within the next two years, except the unlikely event that I will a lottery without participating, and then spend some money to hire a professional programmer) to only query the statistics data, and do the computations within your own Sage. Just to make this

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
approach in my mind. I certainly don't want to develop anything without explicitly telling findstat about it. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Christian Stump christian.st...@gmail.comwrote: Ceterum

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
of the time is better than what they do. But a full-on database is, as a short term solution, heading in the wrong direction. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I agree 100% with your summary, Simon, except that 1) Nathann will have to say himself whether he agrees or not; 2) A decision should be made whether it is valid to introduce lots of empty methods and classes simply for the semantic decorators that will be added. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
reading in an email he sent after yours). Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Vincent Delecroix 20100

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
. I am genuinely keeping an open mind about implementation. I want him to improve what's there, not remove, if he cares enough. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
suggestions. Would this be a short-term solution? Sure! Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
At some point we will need a summary, or to use something better than mailing lists to discuss this. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I think an argument that this function is badly named is very sensible. Maybe a better name would be to_component_sizes. Why not just try changing the name, and see how much work that is for the findstat group to adapt. It might be that this does not want to be named, after all, and that simply an

[sage-devel] Diversity to foster sage development

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
on top of sage, and make it easier for the core contributors to help them too, with epsilon additional effort. Finally, for the specific context of how successful mathematical communities work together, I would advise anyone to read papers by Ursula Martin and her coauthors. Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF

[sage-devel] Project: add hundreds of contributors to sage

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
of around October-November, and to bring the discussion off the mailing list (to private) so as to keep an element of surprise for the students. Let me know! Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Diversity to foster sage development

2014-05-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
of the exercise would not be to copycat what they do, but maybe to understand how the Ma's pipelines work now. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I agree, something should have been done a year ago. But If you think it should be removed and not improved, please do it yourself. Please open and implement a ticket for that, I will review it. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I would be happy to review any ticket in this direction. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Well, a positive review in Sage is just two persons agreeing together. Maybe you nailed exactly where the problem is. The problem might very well be that the person that ends up agreeing on the ticket review at the end is the only one that stuck around. I think that is a strong possibility.

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
The way I see this, *because* of the FindStat use case, the combinatorial_map decorator has been introduced and many Sage developers have been devoted time into adding semantic information into sage methods. Of course, we could remove this all together, but this would be a great loss

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
, energy. Much more useful would be to get quick help in making it happen the right way right away. Paul (*) Not quite. But the needs of LMFDB and findstat really do align. Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
code - just like the LMFDB, the database term is a misnomer. They want their thing to be data and code. The code is partly their data, either directly (class dependencies) or indirectly (the code is run to produce the data). Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: Hi Paul, On 2014-05-27, Paul

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
students. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.comwrote: Let's

Re: [sage-devel] Re: find_stat in Sage, the combinatorial_map decorator and its consequences

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Just adding a link to a track ticket that is relevant: http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16403 On Monday, July 8, 2013 12:23:21 PM UTC+2, vdelecroix wrote: Hi, I do like the project find_stat but do not like the way it intends to do it. In that sense, I mostly agree with Nathann objections.

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
The way I see this, *because* of the FindStat use case, the combinatorial_map decorator has been introduced and many Sage developers have been devoted time into adding semantic information into sage methods. Of course, we could remove this all together, but this would be a great loss

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
, energy. Much more useful would be to get quick help in making it happen the right way right away. Paul (*) Not quite. But the needs of LMFDB and findstat really do align. Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
code - just like the LMFDB, the database term is a misnomer. They want their thing to be data and code. The code is partly their data, either directly (class dependencies) or indirectly (the code is run to produce the data). Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: Hi Paul, On 2014-05-27, Paul

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] redesign combinatorial statistics

2014-05-27 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
students. Paul Paul-Olivier Dehaye SNF Professor of Mathematics University of Zurich skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com twitter: podehaye freenode irc: pdehaye On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Nathann Cohen nathann.co...@gmail.comwrote: Let's

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] PyCon report

2014-04-15 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
in Montreal again for PyCon2015! Paul [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Relic [2] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/wrapt [3] http://pyvideo.org/video/2617/advanced-methods-for-creat Paul-Olivier Dehaye skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com On Tue

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] PyCon report

2014-04-15 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
in Montreal again for PyCon2015! Paul [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Relic [2] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/wrapt [3] http://pyvideo.org/video/2617/advanced-methods-for-creat Paul-Olivier Dehaye skype: lokami_lokami (preferred) phone: +41 76 407 57 96 chat: pauloliv...@gmail.com On Tue

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Applying for a European H2020 grant?

2014-03-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I am completely inexperienced with this, but: - I have heard people around me say that with this type of grant support for preparation of a grant, professional grant writers should be hired. They help write the not-so-scientific portion of the grant. - I have heard first hand from a Principal

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Applying for a European H2020 grant?

2014-03-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Hi all, I would be very happy to cover the front of dissemination of knowledge/teaching/MOOCs. Of course, this is secondary in a call on research infrastructure, but it is still important to teach other researchers how to use the tools we build, or to assist them in teaching their students, etc. I

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Applying for a European H2020 grant?

2014-03-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I am completely inexperienced with this, but: - I have heard people around me say that with this type of grant support for preparation of a grant, professional grant writers should be hired. They help write the not-so-scientific portion of the grant. - I have heard first hand from a Principal

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Applying for a European H2020 grant?

2014-03-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Hi all, I would be very happy to cover the front of dissemination of knowledge/teaching/MOOCs. Of course, this is secondary in a call on research infrastructure, but it is still important to teach other researchers how to use the tools we build, or to assist them in teaching their students, etc. I

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Applying for a European H2020 grant?

2014-03-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
of research, I can't see it. Nathann On Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:18:12 PM UTC+1, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: I am completely inexperienced with this, but: - I have heard people around me say that with this type of grant support for preparation of a grant, professional grant writers should be hired

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call for vote about ticket #10963: axioms and more functorial constructions

2014-03-12 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Thanks for the very thoughtful and encouraging comments. A big hurdle to starting any actual work on this has always been to see how well received the category framework would be. Florian is also struggling with some issues of canonicity of the definitions, so your insights might be helpful to

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call for vote about ticket #10963: axioms and more functorial constructions

2014-03-12 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Thanks for the very thoughtful and encouraging comments. A big hurdle to starting any actual work on this has always been to see how well received the category framework would be. Florian is also struggling with some issues of canonicity of the definitions, so your insights might be helpful to

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: Call for vote about ticket #10963: axioms and more functorial constructions

2014-03-11 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I am confused about what to do. Everyone seems to be assuming that one of Volker's or Nicolas' approaches must be right. It might very well be that both approaches are suboptimal compared to a third. Still, Nicolas' has the merit to be implemented. Let me explain: I support Nicolas' initiative

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] combinatorial map decorators

2013-06-19 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Hi, After your discussion, can you please report on your decision (and what led you to it)? Thanks, Paul On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote: Hi Christian, Nathann, Chris, Viviane, ... Given that the topic is nontrivial -- if not

[sage-devel] Re: Not really about Sage, but definitely about Sage's spirit !

2013-05-25 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/HomePage does something similar. See Purpose section On Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:42:26 PM UTC+2, Nathann Cohen wrote: Hell everybody !!! I write here because I have a question to ask to a large mathematical crowd : a friend and I discussed at

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] problems with dot2tex

2013-05-15 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
By the way, it should be pyparsing 1.5?.x and not 2.x as that's only in python 3. Paul On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anne Schilling a...@math.ucdavis.eduwrote: Hi! Oh, this is really terrible since we are constantly using the dot2tex option to view pictures! I created a ticket

[sage-devel] Re: Constructive discussion on the sage development model

2012-12-10 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Thank you for the extensive explanation. It clarifies things I obviously didn't understand... sage.categories.pushout is the most relevant part for what I was trying to ask. Paul On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:31:06 PM UTC+1, Simon King wrote: Hi Paul, On 2012-11-28, Paul-Olivier Dehaye

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Constructive discussion on the sage development model

2012-11-28 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
change To coerce from the category down to the parent -- To coerce from the abstraction layer to the parent. In this abstraction layer (which is close to the categories now available, but not quite the same), we would have a list of methods for the parent class and the element

[sage-devel] Re: Constructive discussion on the sage development model

2012-11-26 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
On Friday, November 23, 2012 5:02:23 PM UTC+1, Paul-Olivier Dehaye wrote: Only trying to foster a (constructive) discussion, by suggesting a way to talk about the development... I think issues in our development model could be resolved if we adhered strictly to principles of aspect oriented

[sage-devel] Re: Constructive discussion on the sage development model

2012-11-26 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
My impression is that Sage's directory structure tries to address different concerns (meaning here: different mathematical topics). Do you think that the present directory structure does not succeed to keep different concerns apart? Here are a few folders in the main folder: -

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Permutations... again.

2012-11-23 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Purkayashta: this would only address (in good or bad) a tiny part of the development issues, those that have to do with version control. Paul On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:01 PM, P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/2012 08:37 PM, Andrew Mathas wrote: Does anyone have any /concrete

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: teaming up with LMFDB

2012-10-20 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Look at the table at http://www.lmfdb.org/Character/Dirichlet/?modulus=conductor=51order= It's certainly not perfect yet, but it goes in the right direction. It has many features: individually clickable entries in the table, expandable explanations for the column headers, sortable columns, and

[sage-devel] Policy on spkgs updates

2012-10-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Is it always encouraged to upgrade spkgs to more current stable upstream version? Right now scipy is at 0.9, applied with patches to fix a bug that is now corrected in version 0.11 (normally, I have not tested yet). The patch does not seem to work under Mac OS X 10.8, so I was wondering if instead

Re: [sage-devel] Policy on spkgs updates

2012-10-16 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Yes, like #13541 On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:19:11 AM UTC+2, yomcat wrote: On 16/10/2012, at 7:17 PM, Paul-Olivier Dehaye paul-oliv...@math.uzh.chjavascript: wrote: Is it always encouraged to upgrade spkgs to more current stable upstream version? Right now scipy is at 0.9

[sage-combinat-devel] Workshop in Edinburgh: Online databases: from L-functions to combinatorics

2012-08-08 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
://aimath.org/ARCC/workshops/onlinedata.html Paul-Olivier Dehaye ETH Zurich / University of Zurich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-combinat-devel group. To post to this group, send email to sage-combinat-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Workshop in Edinburgh: Online databases: from L-functions to combinatorics

2012-08-08 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
There are many issues that could/should/will be addressed. The main one is how to get easily from the kind of files that a math researcher would keep (some compressed version of the data that would make sense to a couple people if lucky) to something like www.lmfdb.org. In addition, one

[sage-devel] Workshop in Edinburgh: Online databases: from L-functions to combinatorics

2012-08-08 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
://aimath.org/ARCC/workshops/onlinedata.html Paul-Olivier Dehaye ETH Zurich / University of Zurich -- -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Workshop in Edinburgh: Online databases: from L-functions to combinatorics

2012-08-08 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
There are many issues that could/should/will be addressed. The main one is how to get easily from the kind of files that a math researcher would keep (some compressed version of the data that would make sense to a couple people if lucky) to something like www.lmfdb.org. In addition, one

Re: [sage-devel] OS X 10.7 testing again

2012-04-13 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
It worked! Following Justin's advice (version of ECM from #12830), the whole build went through. Xcode 4.3.2, sage-5.0.beta13-lion , Apple clang version 3.1 (tags/Apple/clang-318.0.45) (based on LLVM 3.1svn) Paul On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:36:22 AM UTC+2, Justin C. Walker wrote: On Apr

[sage-devel] Re: OS X 10.7 testing again

2012-04-12 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I don't really know what's going on, I was hoping it would be as simple as make, but it failed for me too. Error installing package ecm-6.3.p4 Please

[sage-devel] Re: Natural language interface to sage

2012-03-03 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Is anyone from Zurich going? (I am trying to) Paul On Friday, March 2, 2012 8:33:22 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: Bringing this back to the actual subject of the thread... See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12619 The developer has the following followup too. Login into

[sage-combinat-devel] Slow generation of partitions with constraints

2012-03-01 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
I don't think the following is normal (under 4.8): sage: timeit(tmp = Partitions(25,min_length=2).count()) 5 loops, best of 3: 1.59 s per loop sage: timeit(tmp = len([x for x in Partitions(25) if len(x)=2])) 25 loops, best of 3: 12.6 ms per loop (The slowdown seems to be in

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Partition

2012-02-17 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Hi Rishi, It is a bug, I saw it reported on trac.sagemath.org previously, but can't find it anymore. Paul On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, r Rishikesh rishi...@gmail.com wrote: In sage, the following succeeds. sage: Partition([2,0,1]) I would expect this not to succeed. Is this a bug or

[sage-combinat-devel] AIM workshop proposal: opinion

2011-11-01 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Dear all, I am about to submit a workshop proposal to the American Institute of Mathematics. The deadline is today, Nov. 1st (fortunately, US time). The current title of the proposal is Sage and databases: L-functions and combinatorial objects. You can see the pdf at

Re: [sage-devel] Multiple databases and sage

2011-10-25 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
The sage-combinat project is mostly hosted at http://wiki.sagemath.org/combinat , and parts are constantly merged into sage. There is also the sage-combinat-devel group. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Multiple databases and sage

2011-10-19 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Dear all, I am currently participating in a sage-based project that aims to integrate a lot of number theory databases (some of you know it, or are even participating!). Some of the goals of the project are to display, search across or perform further computations on archived objects that come

[sage-devel] patchbot and recursive dependencies

2011-06-08 Thread Paul-Olivier Dehaye
Hi all I was looking at the patchbot for my patches, and looking at the results for ticket 11442, I was a bit puzzled. http://sage.math.washington.edu:21100/ticket/11442/ This happens because the bot picked up the dependency on #11440 (as instructed), but not the dependency on #11300, which

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