[sage-support] Shortcut for going down a cell

2009-11-23 Thread ram.rac...@gmail.com
Is there a keyboard shortcut for going down a cell, without executing anything? (A shortcut for up will be useful as well.) I looked in the help screen where some shortcuts were listed but didn't find it. Ram. -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe

[sage-support] Re: Sage Survey 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 21, 7:56 pm, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:  He also omits the (to me) logical entries for other possible programming language familiarity, e.g. C, C++, Java, PHP, Ruby, Perl, and Lisp, among others. Presuming it is entirely innocent that Harald omits Axiom, Reduce, and Maxima from this

Re: [sage-support] Re: bug: derivatives as dictionary keys

2009-11-23 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Alex, On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:30:35 -0800 (PST) Alex Raichev tortoise.s...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet, Burcin. I'll check out your patch. Can you increase the derivative orders to 20 something? Sorry, I won't have more time to play with this in the next two weeks. If you still run into

Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Survey 2009

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 21, 7:56 pm, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:  He also omits the (to me) logical entries for other possible programming language familiarity, e.g. C, C++, Java, PHP, Ruby, Perl, and Lisp, among others.

[sage-support] Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Carlos Córdoba
Hi all, Given the fast development pace of sage, I would like to know if it's possible to do a binary upgrade between releases, similar to what sage -upgrade does now. I think it's a bit cumbersome to download 400-500 gigs and uncompress this big tarball every month - two months, especially for

Re: [sage-support] Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
2009/11/23 Carlos Córdoba ccordob...@gmail.com: Hi all, Given the fast development pace of sage, I would like to know if it's possible to do a binary upgrade between releases, similar to what sage -upgrade does now. I think it's a bit cumbersome to download 400-500 gigs and uncompress this

[sage-support] Re: Sage Survey 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Simon King
Hi William! On Nov 23, 3:20 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Harald Schilly [...] 3. once i decide that the survey is over (only a few submission per day) i can send you the entire data personally if you like - including timestamps of each answer.

[sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 23, 4:51 pm, Carlos Córdoba ccordob...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a bit cumbersome to download 400-500 gigs and uncompress this big tarball every month - two months, especially for people with old computers, small hard drives and/or who live in developing countries where internet

[sage-support] http://www.sagenb.org/ keeps crashing when using search box

2009-11-23 Thread Nasser Abbasi
fyi; when I go here http://www.sagenb.org/ login as guest, then I type something in the search box, the server will crash or give me an internal error. --Nasser -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[sage-support] Re: Mathematica code conversion

2009-11-23 Thread Sterling
Is this the optimal code for what I'm trying to do? On my MacBook, it takes a good minute or so before the graph appears. Not that I'm complaining... On Nov 21, 9:56 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Nov 21, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Jason Grout wrote: Sterling wrote:

[sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
Harald Schilly wrote: On Nov 23, 4:51 pm, Carlos Córdoba ccordob...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a bit cumbersome to download 400-500 gigs and uncompress this big tarball every month - two months, especially for people with old computers, small hard drives and/or who live in developing

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Harald Schilly wrote: On Nov 23, 4:51 pm, Carlos Córdoba ccordob...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a bit cumbersome to download 400-500 gigs and uncompress this big tarball every month - two months, especially for

[sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: (3) Any changes or customizations the user makes anywhere to their sage install will be *deleted*. I think (3) is perhaps the biggest issue. I think emphasizing that this is a binary upgrade and *only* works to overwrite your current sage directory to an exact copy of

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Note that doing the rsync (to a copy of your current sage directory) is no different than downloading the binary and untarring it, but presumably it is quite a bit faster and requires less bandwidth. However, it

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: William Stein wrote:  (3) Any changes or customizations the user makes anywhere to their sage install will be *deleted*. I think (3) is perhaps the biggest issue. I think emphasizing that this is a binary

[sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: William Stein wrote: (3) Any changes or customizations the user makes anywhere to their sage install will be *deleted*. I think (3) is perhaps the biggest issue. I think emphasizing that

Re: [sage-support] Can't run Cython's hello world example

2009-11-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Jorge E. ´Sanchez Sanchez wrote: Hi Robert, just to tell you that I have built sage-4.2.1 from source (it took my athlon 64bits 1Gb almost 5 hours), although I cannot embed a main() with cython --embed hw.pyx I could generate the hw.so file with the

[sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 23, 6:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: rsync I think you mean rdiff-backup and I was thinking about bsdiff/bspatch. About rsync, If you have problems downloading a big file, you will even have more troubles doing rsync since it scans all 150,000 files of sage and

Re: [sage-support] Re: Ctrl-Backspace behavior

2009-11-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 22, 2009, at 11:34 AM, cool-RR wrote: Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to be more polite. Thanks. They all respect ctrl-backspace as deleting a word. Why does Sage do differently? Probably because we weren't even aware of the convention at the time (few Windows users are Sage

Re: [sage-support] Re: Ctrl-Backspace behavior

2009-11-23 Thread cool-RR
You mean, shortcut keys for deleting a cell? On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 11:34 AM, cool-RR wrote: Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to be more polite. Thanks. They all respect ctrl-backspace as deleting a word. Why

RE: [sage-support] Can't run Cython's hello world example

2009-11-23 Thread Jorge E . ´Sanchez Sanchez
Robert: Now I am understanding, in the William Stein's example he could get an executable hw: Now I can in fact do: cython --embed hw.py without any complains but when I try to gcc-compile, I got a message involving the main (see below), so I thought that this feature is not

Re: [sage-support] Re: Ctrl-Backspace behavior

2009-11-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
For joining cells. On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:20 AM, cool-RR wrote: You mean, shortcut keys for deleting a cell? On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 11:34 AM, cool-RR wrote: Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to be more polite.

[sage-support] Re: Ctrl-Backspace behavior

2009-11-23 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 23, 8:07 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: are there any good, non-taken alternatives? I don't know, but instead of more shortcuts, what about adding more links like evaluate calling the appropriate js functions? for inserting html text insert text, joining cells

Re: [sage-support] Can't run Cython's hello world example

2009-11-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Jorge E. ´Sanchez Sanchez wrote: Robert: Now I am understanding, in the William Stein's example he could get an executable hw: Now I can in fact do: cython --embed hw.py without any complains but when I try to gcc-compile, I got a message

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Carlos Córdoba
An xdelta or something like that, which could be joined with a previous tarball to form the latest release would be great. Besides, wouldn't it be possible to create binary spkg's that instead of containing the source code would contain the binaries and data which result after compilation? You

[sage-support] Re: Shortcut for going down a cell

2009-11-23 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
arrow down works for me. Robert On 23 lis, 09:12, ram.rac...@gmail.com ram.rac...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a keyboard shortcut for going down a cell, without executing anything? (A shortcut for up will be useful as well.) I looked in the help screen where some shortcuts were listed but

[sage-support] Re: Ctrl-Backspace behavior

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
Harald Schilly wrote: On Nov 23, 8:07 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: are there any good, non-taken alternatives? I don't know, but instead of more shortcuts, what about adding more links like evaluate calling the appropriate js functions? for inserting html text

Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Survey 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Harald Schilly [...] 3. once i decide that the survey is over (only a few submission per day) i can send you the entire data personally if you like - including timestamps of each answer. then you can see how many responses where in which

[sage-support] Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread kcrisman
Hi support, Two questions. The first should be easy, second maybe not. 1. Any links to someone actually doing multiple cool basic stats examples using R from within Sage? I couldn't find any in a quick Wiki and sagemath.org search, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. I need this for a

[sage-support] Re: Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
kcrisman wrote: Anyway, next up is the standard package that our speaker at the last JMM couldn't get to load in the Sage version of R, so he just showed slides instead :( sage: r.install_packages('MASS') ** You are using OS X. Unfortunately, the R optional package system currently

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Dan Drake
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 at 11:24AM -0600, Jason Grout wrote: What if we just keep build directories on sage.math? Then people can use rsync to update their binary installations, which is an intelligent binary diff program providing compressed differentials. So we can just have a directory

Re: [sage-support] http://www.sagenb.org/ keeps crashing when using search box

2009-11-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Nasser Abbasi wrote: fyi; when I go here http://www.sagenb.org/ login as guest, then I type something in the search box, the server will crash or give me an internal error. --Nasser Yes, you are correct. I'm not sure who maintains that server, but it is certainly generating an

[sage-support] Running sage notebook as a daemon

2009-11-23 Thread mark mcclure
After a bit of work, I've finally got a Sage installation on a globally accessible machine here running RedHat Linux. I've successfully started up the Sage Notebook and accessed it from home, but I can't stay logged into the server. How can I, as a standard non-root user, run the server as a

Re: [sage-support] Running sage notebook as a daemon

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:50 PM, mark mcclure mcmcc...@unca.edu wrote: After a bit of work, I've finally got a Sage installation on a globally accessible machine here running RedHat Linux.  I've successfully started up the Sage Notebook and accessed it from home, but I can't stay logged into

Re: [sage-support] http://www.sagenb.org/ keeps crashing when using search box

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Nasser Abbasi wrote: fyi; when I go here http://www.sagenb.org/ login as guest, then I type something in the search box, the server will crash or give me an internal error. --Nasser Yes, you are correct.

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 at 11:24AM -0600, Jason Grout wrote: What if we just keep build directories on sage.math?  Then people can use rsync to update their binary installations, which is an intelligent binary diff program providing

[sage-support] Re: Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread kcrisman
I opened a ticket for the bad doctest: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7521 Still not sure why this doesn't work; in fact, it's supposed to be included in every *binary* shipped, obviously that doesn't apply directly to Sage... The R spkg does not compile the standard

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Dan Drake
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 at 03:55PM -0800, William Stein wrote: A compromise between tarball on a webserver and rsync server is zsync: http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ zsync is a file transfer program. It allows you to download a file from a remote server, where you have a copy of an older version

Re: [sage-support] Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi support, Two questions.  The first should be easy, second maybe not. 1. Any links to someone actually doing multiple cool basic stats examples using R from within Sage?  I couldn't find any in a quick Wiki and

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 at 03:55PM -0800, William Stein wrote: A compromise between tarball on a webserver and rsync server is zsync: http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ zsync is a file transfer program. It allows you to download a file

Re: [sage-support] Re: Ctrl-Backspace behavior

2009-11-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Harald Schilly wrote: On Nov 23, 8:07 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: are there any good, non-taken alternatives? I don't know, but instead of more shortcuts, what about adding more links

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Carlos Córdoba
William, I think what Dan is proposing is just to use an old tarball and an intelligent algorithm to auto-magically recreate the latest one. Then the user would have to uncompress it so he/she could use the new sage. I don't think this could be done inside sage itself. 2009/11/23 William Stein

[sage-support] Re: Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi support, Two questions. The first should be easy, second maybe not. 1. Any links to someone actually doing multiple cool basic stats examples using R from within Sage? I couldn't find any in a

[sage-support] Re: Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
kcrisman wrote: I opened a ticket for the bad doctest: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7521 Still not sure why this doesn't work; in fact, it's supposed to be included in every *binary* shipped, obviously that doesn't apply directly to Sage... The R spkg does not compile the

[sage-support] Re: Running sage notebook as a daemon

2009-11-23 Thread Kwankyu
Hi, I may share a short script to maintain a sage server. Here is the link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1465360/sage-server.zip Kwankyu -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

RE: [sage-support] Can't run Cython's hello world example

2009-11-23 Thread Jorge E . ´Sanchez Sanchez
Robert: I am so sorry for bothering you again with my silly questions but I am still walking in circles around the correct compilation flags. Here's how I am succeded to build hibehnel.py as executable, where hibehnel.py is: sage subshell$ more hibehnel.py def hello_world(): import sys

[sage-support] Re: Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: So it looks like MASS is installed. Do you know a command I can check it with? Indeed, it appears that it works and loads the MASS library: sage: import rpy2.rpy_classic as rpy sage: r=rpy.r sage: rpy.set_default_mode(rpy.BASIC_CONVERSION) sage: r.library('MASS')

[sage-support] Re: Help with R?

2009-11-23 Thread kcrisman
Thanks for all this feedback. In the event, the specific reason I wanted to have this was for a presentation where the idea would be one could just use R, which has a lot of undergraduate resources/texts available, not necessarily to plot my own histograms or use the new stats - since, if history

Re: [sage-support] Re: Is it possible to do a binary upgrade similar to sage -upgrade?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hansen
Another option might be using a unionfs overlay to monitor the files that get installed / changed during the installation of an spkg. I'm not sure about deleted files, but spkg which for example delete the old copy before installation could have that functionality factored out into a spkg-clean

Re: [sage-support] Can't run Cython's hello world example

2009-11-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Jorge E. ´Sanchez Sanchez wrote: Robert: I am so sorry for bothering you again with my silly questions but I am still walking in circles around the correct compilation flags. Here's how I am succeded to build hibehnel.py as executable, where hibehnel.py

Re: [sage-support] Can't run Cython's hello world example

2009-11-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 23, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: In any case, if you do from sage.all import ... you might have to potentially link in every library that Sage builds (trust me, there's a lot of them) to create a standalone executable with the --embed option. This will work on OS X where