[scifinoir2] Fwd: Consumer Reports Looks at Latest 3D TVs

2010-09-09 Thread Keith Johnson
Sent this yesterday, but not sure it came through...Sammie recently bought a 
plasma TV, and I commented on how I much prefer the more vibrant look of 
plasmas over LCD's, even though most everyone I know tells me LCD is the way to 
go. Another thing in plasma's favor is that they seem to do better with the 
up-and-coming 3D technology for the home. Consumer Reports recently did an 
article on it: 


 
August 23, 2010 
First Look: New 3D LCD TVs from LG, Sony 



ClaudioMeter_1
Claudio Ciacci, who heads up TV testing, gets 
ready to measure crosstalk on 3D TVs. 

Ever since we tested the first 3D TVs available—a Panasonic VT20-series plasma 
TV and Samsung 7000- and 8000-series LCD TVs —we've been looking forward to 
reviewing more 3D TV models. We recently completed testing of newer Panasonic ( 
VT25 series ) and Samsung ( C7000 and C8000 series) plasma sets, which 
performed well in the 3D mode, and now have the first 3D TVs from LG Electronic 
and Sony, all LCD TVs with edge LED backlights . 

Our preliminary tests of these four new 3D LCD TVs—two from each 
manufacturer—reinforces our early suspicions that plasma is a better technology 
than LCD for presenting 3D images. That's because plasma TVs have been 
relatively free from crosstalk, or ghosted double images that occur when 
images meant for one eye aren't kept completely separate from the other. On the 
other hand, all the LCD sets we've tested have had fairly significant levels of 
crosstalk, which can be distracting and diminish the 3D effect. It's our belief 
that most viewers will accept slight color shifts or a loss of brightness when 
watching 3D, but will be less tolerant of significant ghosting, which can also 
add to eyestrain. 

It's also important to note that all four TVs are capable of very good to 
excellent performance with all types of normal high-definition programming. 
(The Sony HX800 set in our LCD TV Ratings , available to subscribers , 
delivered excellent overall picture quality.) However, one potential 
differentiating factor could be viewing angle . The tested Sony, for example, 
had a fairly narrow viewing angle, narrower than most sets. Other Sony sets 
we've tested have had average viewing angles for an LCD. LG has typically 
faired better, with several sets judged very good for viewing angle—among the 
best we've seen from an LCD set. All these sets will have viewing angle scores 
when they're added to our TV Ratings. 

Claudio3D
Claudio Ciacci with 3D test patterns that reveal 
crosstalk. 

Putting 3D to the test 

The two LG 3D sets in our labs are the LG 47-inch Infinia 47LX9500 flagship 
model ($4,300), the first 3D TV we've tested with 480Hz technology, and the 
55-inch 55LX6500 ($3,600), a 240Hz set. The LX9500 has a full-array LED 
backlight, while the LX6500 uses an edge LED backlight that can be locally 
dimmed, something we've previously seen only on some Samsung models. [Ed. note: 
In an earlier version of the story, the LX9500 was incorrectly described as an 
edge-lit model.] Neither model comes with LG's 3D glasses , which sell for $130 
per set at both Best Buy and Crutchfield. 

In addition to the Sony model (the 40-inch KDL-40HX800, $2,100) currently in 
our TV Ratings, we're now also testing the 52-inch flagship Sony XBR-52LX900 
($3,600). Both feature Sony's 240Hz technology. The higher-priced XBR model 
comes with two pairs of Sony 3D glasses ($150 per pair), but the HX800 model 
doesn't come with any. It's also the only model we've encountered that also 
requires you to buy an external sync transmitter , which costs $50. 

For our 3D evaluations, all four TVs were tested with a range of 3D content, 
including 3D Blu-ray movies and 3D programs from the ESPN 3D and 
DirecTV/Panasonic n3D channels, which were stored on a DirecTV HD DVR. 

In general, we found the LG sets performed similarly to the Samsung LCD models 
we've tested, delivering a satisfyingly bright, clear picture with plenty of 
three-dimensional depth. But we also saw fairly significant ghosting. While 
crosstalk is typically most evident on higher-contrast content (bright objects 
against a darker background, for example), which can be challenging even for 3D 
plasma TVs, the LG showed significant crosstalk across a variety of content, 
though a tad less intense than with the Samsung sets. Overall we found the 
ghosting on the LG to be distracting, ultimately detracting from a quality 3D 
experience. 

The Sony TVs were the most unusual 3D sets we've tested to date. On one hand 
they could deliver a very good, especially bright 3D image with visibly less 
ghosting than we've seen on other LCD-based sets. But that's only if you can 
keep your head completely vertical to the screen. When we tilted our head to 
one side even slightly, the ghosting increased dramatically—to a level more 
severe than we've seen on other sets—and the 3D effect diminished. Apparently, 
Sony uses only a single polarizer on 

Re: [scifinoir2] Writer defends Happy Days 'jump the shark' episode

2010-09-08 Thread Keith Johnson
I respect the writer's perspective, and understand his sensitivity. After all, 
I get upset sometimes if someone overly critiques one of my e-mails! But his 
assertion that Happy Days wasn't on the decline simply because it lasted six 
more years isn't the same as saying those were six *good* years. Happy Days 
was such a part of American life that it would naturally take a long time for 
it to become so bad--or the audience to literally outgrow its nostalgic 
backward look at the 50s. Laverne and Shirley moved locations and was 
noticeably less of a show, yet lasted for years after. All in thh Family went 
on for a time after many of the principals who'd help make it--the Jeffersons, 
Edith--but was still getting ratings. Eyeballs don't always equal quality: look 
at the awful dreck we have like American Idol, The Bachelor, The Real 
Housewives, or that sitcom with Belushi, According to Jim, which stayed on 
despite being poor. 
Jumping the Shark doesn't always mean a show completely degenerates into pure 
crap, either. Many, many shows decline in overall quality, and aren't 
necessarily awful, just not nearly on the level as when they started. But as 
for Jumping the Shark, it's funny that he mentions the ep with Fonzie and his 
love Pinky: the site of Fonz and Pinky lovingly popping wheelies in slow-motion 
to romantic music is actually way sillier than his jumping that shark tank 
later. Maybe the phrase could have been Popping a wheelie! 

And let's not talk about when Mork was brought in as the alien friend, which 
reminded me way too much of Kazoo from the Flintstones... 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 11:36:21 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Writer defends Happy Days 'jump the shark' episode 






http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/03/entertainment/la-et-jump-the-shark-20100903
 

In 1987, Jon Hein and his roommates at the University of Michigan were drinking 
beer and had Nick at Nite playing in the background. They started talking about 
classic TV shows when someone asked, What was the precise moment you knew it 
was downhill for your favorite show? One said it was when Vicki came on board 
The Love Boat. Another thought it was when the Great Gazoo appeared on The 
Flintstones. Sean Connolly offered, That's easy: It was when Fonzie jumped 
the shark. As Hein later recounted, there was silence in the room: No 
explanation necessary, the phrase said it all. 

If I had been in the room, however, I would have broken that silence of 
self-assuredness, for I wrote that now infamous episode of Happy Days. 

And more than three decades later, I still don't believe that the series 
jumped the shark when Fonzie jumped the shark. 




[scifinoir2] Consumer Reports Looks at Latest 3D TVs

2010-09-08 Thread Keith Johnson
Sammie recently bought a plasma TV, and I commented on how I much prefer the 
more vibrant look of plasmas over LCD's, even though most everyone I know tells 
me LCD is the way to go. Another thing in plasma's favor is that they seem to 
do better with the up-and-coming 3D technology for the home. Consumer Reports 
recently did an article on it: 

 
August 23, 2010 
First Look: New 3D LCD TVs from LG, Sony 



ClaudioMeter_1
Claudio Ciacci, who heads up TV testing, gets 
ready to measure crosstalk on 3D TVs. 

Ever since we tested the first 3D TVs available—a Panasonic VT20-series plasma 
TV and Samsung 7000- and 8000-series LCD TVs —we've been looking forward to 
reviewing more 3D TV models. We recently completed testing of newer Panasonic ( 
VT25 series ) and Samsung ( C7000 and C8000 series) plasma sets, which 
performed well in the 3D mode, and now have the first 3D TVs from LG Electronic 
and Sony, all LCD TVs with edge LED backlights . 

Our preliminary tests of these four new 3D LCD TVs—two from each 
manufacturer—reinforces our early suspicions that plasma is a better technology 
than LCD for presenting 3D images. That's because plasma TVs have been 
relatively free from crosstalk, or ghosted double images that occur when 
images meant for one eye aren't kept completely separate from the other. On the 
other hand, all the LCD sets we've tested have had fairly significant levels of 
crosstalk, which can be distracting and diminish the 3D effect. It's our belief 
that most viewers will accept slight color shifts or a loss of brightness when 
watching 3D, but will be less tolerant of significant ghosting, which can also 
add to eyestrain. 

It's also important to note that all four TVs are capable of very good to 
excellent performance with all types of normal high-definition programming. 
(The Sony HX800 set in our LCD TV Ratings , available to subscribers , 
delivered excellent overall picture quality.) However, one potential 
differentiating factor could be viewing angle . The tested Sony, for example, 
had a fairly narrow viewing angle, narrower than most sets. Other Sony sets 
we've tested have had average viewing angles for an LCD. LG has typically 
faired better, with several sets judged very good for viewing angle—among the 
best we've seen from an LCD set. All these sets will have viewing angle scores 
when they're added to our TV Ratings. 

Claudio3D
Claudio Ciacci with 3D test patterns that reveal 
crosstalk. 

Putting 3D to the test 

The two LG 3D sets in our labs are the LG 47-inch Infinia 47LX9500 flagship 
model ($4,300), the first 3D TV we've tested with 480Hz technology, and the 
55-inch 55LX6500 ($3,600), a 240Hz set. The LX9500 has a full-array LED 
backlight, while the LX6500 uses an edge LED backlight that can be locally 
dimmed, something we've previously seen only on some Samsung models. [Ed. note: 
In an earlier version of the story, the LX9500 was incorrectly described as an 
edge-lit model.] Neither model comes with LG's 3D glasses , which sell for $130 
per set at both Best Buy and Crutchfield. 

In addition to the Sony model (the 40-inch KDL-40HX800, $2,100) currently in 
our TV Ratings, we're now also testing the 52-inch flagship Sony XBR-52LX900 
($3,600). Both feature Sony's 240Hz technology. The higher-priced XBR model 
comes with two pairs of Sony 3D glasses ($150 per pair), but the HX800 model 
doesn't come with any. It's also the only model we've encountered that also 
requires you to buy an external sync transmitter , which costs $50. 

For our 3D evaluations, all four TVs were tested with a range of 3D content, 
including 3D Blu-ray movies and 3D programs from the ESPN 3D and 
DirecTV/Panasonic n3D channels, which were stored on a DirecTV HD DVR. 

In general, we found the LG sets performed similarly to the Samsung LCD models 
we've tested, delivering a satisfyingly bright, clear picture with plenty of 
three-dimensional depth. But we also saw fairly significant ghosting. While 
crosstalk is typically most evident on higher-contrast content (bright objects 
against a darker background, for example), which can be challenging even for 3D 
plasma TVs, the LG showed significant crosstalk across a variety of content, 
though a tad less intense than with the Samsung sets. Overall we found the 
ghosting on the LG to be distracting, ultimately detracting from a quality 3D 
experience. 

The Sony TVs were the most unusual 3D sets we've tested to date. On one hand 
they could deliver a very good, especially bright 3D image with visibly less 
ghosting than we've seen on other LCD-based sets. But that's only if you can 
keep your head completely vertical to the screen. When we tilted our head to 
one side even slightly, the ghosting increased dramatically—to a level more 
severe than we've seen on other sets—and the 3D effect diminished. Apparently, 
Sony uses only a single polarizer on each lens of its glasses. This helps boost 

Re: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy

2010-09-08 Thread Keith Johnson
That's one of those I've never seen all the way to the end. One forgets how good an actress Phillips can be, given the opportunity and sobriety.- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" martinbaxt...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 2:33:54 PMSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Outer Limits" Marathon on SyFy









  

  
  
  Keith, that's exactly why I passed on that ep. Too vivid, even for my twisted brain.The ep I wanted to see was the one at 1 pm Eastern, with MacKenzie Phillips and Colin Mochrie of "Whose Line Is It Anyway?", about a UFO nut and a security guard who come into possession of what appears to be a fragment of a UFO that crashed. You can see the twist coming from light-years off (one of them is part of the cover-up), and it still gets you every time. I saw the ep that's on now, with the military droid on the run, last month, so I'm passing on it for Graham Kerr. (Ultra Old School, am I. )
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:



















  



  
  
  There's an "Outer Limits" (the newer series) marathon on SyFy now. The good thing is, because the show's airing was so inconsistent back in the day, I can always find an ep or two I've never seen, seen only partially, or seen only one time. There were some really good shows in that series. The ep on now, however, is one I have trouble watching. It stars Joel Grey as a grief-stricken scientist whose only son died. He secrets funds and parts from the lab where he works to build a robotic son as a substitute, complete with true self-awareness. The problem is, he has to hide this project, both from the lab whose resources he's pilfering, and of course from the world at large, which would treat his "son" as a freak--or menace. What makes this oft-used scifi trope effective in this show is the combination of touching sadness and faint fear the show engenders. For example, the robot boy is obviously not real: his movements are jerky, his eyes are two balls devoid of sockets or real lids, his mouth is just teeth with no lips. His overall skeleton--only the upper body at first--is metallic, with a small amount of skinlike material on his lower jaw. In short, he looks much like the Terminator skeleton with a bit more human characteristics added. That alone wouldn't be disturbing, but the child actor who voices the robot is so genuine, so emotive, so "real", that hearing that voice come out of a near-expressionless face is quite disturbing. The "Uncanny Valley" effect is really working here. Adding to the growing sense of unease about the child is that when he's angry or hurt, one then sees it not just as a angry child, but a potentially deadly robot whose features are already frankly frightening. It's the Frankenstein's Monster effect again: he may be a child, and act like a child, but he's in a frightening body that can do harm, and his childlike tantrums can turn deadly.
The scene that always disturbs me the most is when the dad comes home to find his son with the family cat. "Shhh", the son says, "he feel asleep, and I'm petting him. He's so pretty" The camera pans down to show the lifeless body of the cat, literally shredded to bloody ribbons by the unfeeling metallic hands of the son. He didn't mean to kill the cat, but had no concept of death, his strength, nor an ability to feel. There's something extremely creepy about this robot child have human innocence, but the body and face of a monster, which makes his anguished outburst over realizing he'd killed the cat both poignant and frightening at the same time. You actually feel for the child, but fear the thing in which he's house. Again, like Frankenstein's Monster. One of the better "Outer Limits" I've ever seen, but I can't sit through it more than once.



 









  






-- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Granthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 



  


Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

2010-09-06 Thread Keith Johnson
The Bamboos? Never heard of them but will check 'em out! 

- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 5:16:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 








The Dap-kings was/is a record company house band (Dap Records ) in Brooklyn. 
There is a UK group The New Mastersounds who've been holding it down for years. 

A group from Austrialia called The Bamboos are in the same vein andhave alot of 
potential. I've downloaded alot of their stuff. 




From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 8:32:16 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 




I think that's true for some folks but overall the scene is pretty varied. 
There has been a big retro movement but the UK RB scene has been healthy for 
years. They wear their influences on their sleeves but folks like Omar, Mica 
Paris, Floetry and others have been doing great stuff for a while. Jody 
Watley's best work in years was the album she did with UK production teams. 

BTW did you hear Amy Winehouse's music before her big breakout? It was very 
polished and modern with some pretty raw lyrics to separate her from similar 
artists. She was like a a UK Jaguar Wright(without Jaguar's raw power or 
range). That's why I called Back To Black trend jumping in some ways. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: 
 
 Yes, there is something painful and old school sounding in her voice. I 
 would also say the same about Joss Stone too. Unfortunately, its only 
 a facsimile of a particular style and not truly authentic. 
 
 Before I learned a little about the UK's RB history I thought it was kind 
 of cool, but they basically have been listening to 50s and 60s RB in some 
 areas since the 50s and 60s without much growth. Much of the RB that they 
 were listening to were unpopular records from here, Canada and UK clones. 
 (Just to make sure I downloaded a few albums from there that were hits.) 
 Basically early Motown, Stax sound alikes. 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: 
 
  
  
  So the dank whiskey drowned nightclub is a *good* thing, right? 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 1:26:40 AM 
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 
  
  
  
  Amy Winehouse sounds like she came out of some dank whiskey drowned 
  nightclub from the 50s. Unfortunately, she isn't consistent and has a major 
  drug problem. 
  
  On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: 
  
  
  
  I've never listened to Amy Winehouse. What's so good about her? Another 
  good singer who has an old school sound is Leela James 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: B Smith daikaij...@... 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 3:23:49 PM 
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 
  
  
  
  I like them in small doses but Sharon does the damn thing and their live 
  shows are epic. I liked at first Amy Winehouse but that crap of crowning 
  her 
  the new face of soul music really galled me. She was just trend jumping 
  like 
  a lot of other singers do and she blew up. 
  
  Good recommendations from your e-mail. I'd add Soulive, Jamie Lidell, Joss 
  Stone(especially her work with Raphael Saadiq) and Cee-lo Green as folks 
  you 
  might want to seek out. 
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith 
  Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
   
   Enjoy! I got the following from a lady in response to the e-mail: 
   
   FYI they have been around for quite a while...The Dap Kings moonlight as 
  the band for Amy Winehouse as well. If you like them and that retro soul 
  feel, also check out Raphael Saadiq, Rahsaan Patterson, and this young 
  funky 
  white kid Mayer Hawthorne... 
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ 
   To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 2:20:02 PM 
   Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Thanks, Keith! I'll have a look/listen as soon as I clear my table here 
  and pay some bills. 
   
   
   On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson  KeithBJohnson@  
  wrote: 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   I'm always searching for real music that's outside of the standard 
  hip-hip/finger poppin'/dance heavy stuff played on commercial radio (how 
  many times in one day can one stomach Beyonce Knowles, Lady Gaga, or 
  Bieber???) A while back I heard an interview on Fresh Air with a group 
  called Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings. This group is amazing, with a sound 
  that hails

Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor

2010-09-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Ha-ha! I was watching one of the great science shows on cable recently. I think 
it was The Universe on The History Channel. They had an ep on deep space 
probes and discussed ion powered ships. The program indicated they're getting 
better all the time, and that in the next ten - twenty years, we may be able to 
see a severalfold increase in the speed of probes using ion power. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 6:15:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear 
reactor 






Aside from the battery, I'm not seeing anything wrong with that idea... 


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









Somewhere in my old house in Fort Worth is a schematic of an ion drive I did in 
second grade, after watching an ep of Star Trek (had to be Spock's Brain), 
and reading about electrolytes in my encyclopedia set. I'd read about how 
cesium, when immersed in water, would produce ions in solution, and I'd read 
about theories for Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), the idea of using fusion power 
to drive plasma as a source of motion. Then there was that Trek ep where they 
said the aliens who took Spock's brain used ion power, which Kirk said was even 
beyond Federation tech. So, sure that I'd stumbled on a major secret, I took 
pen to paper. I drew a cutaway of the Jupiter Two from Lost in Space. Inside 
was a giant water tank. Sitting next to the tank, like a coal scuttle on a stem 
locomotive, was a big pile of cesium bricks--just sitting there. Next to them 
were some crazy robot arms with gloved hands (think of all the robot 
extremities as depicted in old cartoons). The robot hands--two of them--would 
take turns dumping cesium bricks into the water tank. Attached to the tank was 
a big A battery and wiring so that the ions in solution could be driven to one 
side of the tank by the negative pole of the battery. I then had what was for 
all the world a tailpipe sticking out the side of the ship, through which the 
electrons would shoot into space. 
Of course, my eight year old self was certain I'd just solved the problem of 
both ion drive and FTL travel. To this day I remember how excited I was at what 
I thought I'd created! 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 4:02:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear 
reactor 






The truly futuristic stuff is starting to appear. Once people completely move 
away from the big government thinking on energy I think the flood gates will 
open with new ideas. 


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Took them long enough. 

One of my college instructors had a similar thought back in the late 70s. A 
shame he's passed on. 





On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Here are details of the subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor 
designed by Nobel Laureate Carlo Rubbia. This reactor was given a supportive 
article by the UK Telegraph. It has been extensively studied for over 15 years 
and is expected to have half the cost of existing light water reactors and burn 
up almost all of the nuclear fuel. The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has 
bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for the thorium fuel-cycle, and is working on his 
design for a proton accelerator at its UK operation. They are raising 100 
million pounds ($150 million USD) for the next stage of an estimated 2 billion 
pound ($3 billion USD) project to develop the first commercial unit. 




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-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception

2010-09-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Dude, put on your reading glasses! :) 

I haven't even *seen* Inception yet. Like i said, I am looking forward to 
seeing it, and am curious to compare glowing reviews against Bosco's more 
measured assessment. As for The Matrix, no your memory doesn't serve well at 
all. I loved the Matrix. Indeed, I'm one of the few who loves the second and 
third Matrix films. So much of the mainstream public who was pulled into the 
first film more for the innovative FX and action, bailed as the Wachowski 
brothers moved more into philosophy and spiritualism. Hence, the sequels are 
almost legendary as examples of a franchise's quality diminishing, but no, I 
wasn't on that boat. I loved all three flicks. 



- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:10:23 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception 






I am roping off the Keith Johnson/Bosco Bosco curmudgeon section of the theater 
(not that anything is wrong with that). If memory serves me correctly both of 
you were in the same (wrong) camp regarding the first Matrix movie - and, for 
many of the same reasons. 

As an old (former) friend once told me: There is no accounting for taste - AND 
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY! 

You can both be right and still be wrong. I recently saw The Hangover and I 
don't get it. It is stupid, pointlessly violent, (racist even) - but not funny. 
Millions beg to disagree with me. 

You two gentlemen obviously have both taste and erudition so I will just chalk 
this up to different strokes for different folks. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 I plan to see it later today, having been late to the party as well. I'm 
 looking forward to it, based on your take, to compare against the hype. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... 
 To: Sci Fi Noir  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
 Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 11:44:59 PM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Finally Saw Inception 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Lots of cool visual effects and technical complexities. It turns out the tech 
 complexities are mostly irrelevant. In fact the entire dreaming and reality 
 part of the story is pretty much pointless. It's a basically a sci fi twist 
 on some really old themes. The sci fi part is really fun but those old themes 
 have been conquered by better men with better skills both in director's chair 
 and in front of the camera. I would hazard a guess that beyond some simple 
 nostalgia in a few years no one will remember this one or care about it. It 
 won't hold up. You can boil the entire movie down to father issues and regret 
 issues and both have been done better and more intelligently. I know I'm late 
 to the party and I'm clearly old because I don't find the hype accurate but I 
 figured I would weigh in anyway 
 
 Bosco 
 




Re: [scifinoir2] ATT U-verse drops Hallmark Channels

2010-09-05 Thread Keith Johnson
I actually watch a fair amount of the Hallmark Channel. They have decent movies 
that are good to watch with family. There's a series about women in the Old 
West days, such as Sarah Plain and Tall with Glenn Close, and a series that 
has the blonde actress who used to be on Grey's Anatomy. They seem to 
specialize in a lot of those Old West love stories were strong men and women 
try to make a life in hostile conditions, and thankfully, the modern 
sensibilities usually has those hostilities being more from greedy white men 
and the elements than from savage Natives. The movies are often predictable, 
even fluff, but they're fun to watch on a Saturday night snuggled up on the 
couch with the wife--who just loves that I will share time to watch a romance 
with her instead of the billionth airing of an ep of Star Trek. 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:24:56 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] ATT U-verse drops Hallmark Channels 






We had a recent convo about this and here is a prime example. ESPN once again 
held up Warner-Cable and Warner Cable backed down. Here the Hallmark Channel 
asks ATT for a rate increase and ATT kicks them to the curb - and there is NO 
outcry. I am an ATT U-Verse subscriber but I never even know I had the 
Hallmark channel. 

Downside: apparently I am going to be unable to see The Martha Stewart Show 
which is moving from syndication to the Hallmark Channel. 

Bummer. 

~rave? 




Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception

2010-09-05 Thread Keith Johnson
You didn't like The Dark Knight? Is that because it was a bit long and could 
have used some editing, or did you just dislike the overall thing? 
The one complain I have about the Dark Knight--two actually--were the camera 
work (way too fast in fight scenes) and slight characterizations of Bruce 
Wayne/Batman. I tend to like Wayne as a bit grimmer when alone (not playing to 
the masses). Nolan's Bruce Wayne is a bit more normal or balanced. Not a 
bad thing, very subtle. An example: In Batman Returns, with Michael Keaton, 
there's a scene where the Bat signal is shown, and an elaborate system atop 
Wayne Manor alerts Wayne. When we see Wayne, he's literally sitting in the 
dark, just brooding. Nolan's way is ever so slightly less brooding than that. 
In The Dark Knight, he told Alfred I wanted to inspire the people of 
Gotham. I've never seen Wayne as wanting to inspire the people of Gotham first 
and foremost, but, rather, to defeat and cow criminals, with people feeling 
safe as a nice byproduct. 



- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 12:48:52 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception 






I understood you were going to see Inception, today. I was anticipating your 
reaction. Although, since you LOVE The Dark Knight, which I do not, you may, 
indeed, love Inception. I am in convo with someone on another list who has 
loved everything Nolan has done since Momento. I LIKE Momento and I LOVE 
Inception, but I HATE Insomnia. 

I sit corrected regarding your take on The Matrix. I believe I am correct 
regarding Bosco's take, however. 

In either case, I take solace in the fact that even when I am wrong I was born 
Wright. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Dude, put on your reading glasses! :) 
 
 I haven't even *seen* Inception yet. Like i said, I am looking forward to 
 seeing it, and am curious to compare glowing reviews against Bosco's more 
 measured assessment. As for The Matrix, no your memory doesn't serve well 
 at all. I loved the Matrix. Indeed, I'm one of the few who loves the second 
 and third Matrix films. So much of the mainstream public who was pulled into 
 the first film more for the innovative FX and action, bailed as the Wachowski 
 brothers moved more into philosophy and spiritualism. Hence, the sequels are 
 almost legendary as examples of a franchise's quality diminishing, but no, I 
 wasn't on that boat. I loved all three flicks. 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:10:23 AM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am roping off the Keith Johnson/Bosco Bosco curmudgeon section of the 
 theater (not that anything is wrong with that). If memory serves me correctly 
 both of you were in the same (wrong) camp regarding the first Matrix movie - 
 and, for many of the same reasons. 
 
 As an old (former) friend once told me: There is no accounting for taste - 
 AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY! 
 
 You can both be right and still be wrong. I recently saw The Hangover and I 
 don't get it. It is stupid, pointlessly violent, (racist even) - but not 
 funny. Millions beg to disagree with me. 
 
 You two gentlemen obviously have both taste and erudition so I will just 
 chalk this up to different strokes for different folks. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  I plan to see it later today, having been late to the party as well. I'm 
  looking forward to it, based on your take, to compare against the hype. 
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bosco Bosco ironpigs3@ 
  To: Sci Fi Noir  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
  Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 11:44:59 PM 
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Finally Saw Inception 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Lots of cool visual effects and technical complexities. It turns out the 
  tech complexities are mostly irrelevant. In fact the entire dreaming and 
  reality part of the story is pretty much pointless. It's a basically a sci 
  fi twist on some really old themes. The sci fi part is really fun but those 
  old themes have been conquered by better men with better skills both in 
  director's chair and in front of the camera. I would hazard a guess that 
  beyond some simple nostalgia in a few years no one will remember this one 
  or care about it. It won't hold up. You can boil the entire movie down to 
  father issues and regret issues and both have been done better and more 
  intelligently. I know I'm late to the party and I'm clearly old because I 
  don't find the hype accurate but I figured I would weigh in anyway 
  
  Bosco 
  
 




Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception

2010-09-05 Thread Keith Johnson
All valid points. How did you like Batman Begins? A lot of people like it 
better than its sequel because it's tighter. Iron Man the first movie rocked. 
It's a tossup as to whether I'd prefer watching it or Batman Begins more 
often, but each is a great movie for repeated viewings. Iron Man 2, not so 
much. I was disappointed. 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 1:10:17 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception 






I like The Dark Knight fine. I have seen it many times. I just don't think 
it is overrated and, as I have mentioned here before, I think the persons of 
color in the movie are dispatched with extreme prejudice and I found that 
rather disturbing on first and subsequent viewings. Further, I can make some of 
the comments that Bosco made about Inception about The Dark Knight, I 
thought the set-pieces were derivative and had been done better in other 
movies. And, yeah, it is too long. I much prefer the lean, mean action of the 
first Iron Man movie. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 You didn't like The Dark Knight? Is that because it was a bit long and 
 could have used some editing, or did you just dislike the overall thing? 
 The one complain I have about the Dark Knight--two actually--were the camera 
 work (way too fast in fight scenes) and slight characterizations of Bruce 
 Wayne/Batman. I tend to like Wayne as a bit grimmer when alone (not playing 
 to the masses). Nolan's Bruce Wayne is a bit more normal or balanced. Not 
 a bad thing, very subtle. An example: In Batman Returns, with Michael 
 Keaton, there's a scene where the Bat signal is shown, and an elaborate 
 system atop Wayne Manor alerts Wayne. When we see Wayne, he's literally 
 sitting in the dark, just brooding. Nolan's way is ever so slightly less 
 brooding than that. In The Dark Knight, he told Alfred I wanted to inspire 
 the people of Gotham. I've never seen Wayne as wanting to inspire the people 
 of Gotham first and foremost, but, rather, to defeat and cow criminals, with 
 people feeling safe as a nice byproduct. 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 12:48:52 PM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I understood you were going to see Inception, today. I was anticipating 
 your reaction. Although, since you LOVE The Dark Knight, which I do not, 
 you may, indeed, love Inception. I am in convo with someone on another list 
 who has loved everything Nolan has done since Momento. I LIKE Momento and 
 I LOVE Inception, but I HATE Insomnia. 
 
 I sit corrected regarding your take on The Matrix. I believe I am correct 
 regarding Bosco's take, however. 
 
 In either case, I take solace in the fact that even when I am wrong I was 
 born Wright. 
 
 ~rave! 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
  
  Dude, put on your reading glasses! :) 
  
  I haven't even *seen* Inception yet. Like i said, I am looking forward to 
  seeing it, and am curious to compare glowing reviews against Bosco's more 
  measured assessment. As for The Matrix, no your memory doesn't serve well 
  at all. I loved the Matrix. Indeed, I'm one of the few who loves the second 
  and third Matrix films. So much of the mainstream public who was pulled 
  into the first film more for the innovative FX and action, bailed as the 
  Wachowski brothers moved more into philosophy and spiritualism. Hence, the 
  sequels are almost legendary as examples of a franchise's quality 
  diminishing, but no, I wasn't on that boat. I loved all three flicks. 
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelwyn ravenadal@ 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:10:23 AM 
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  I am roping off the Keith Johnson/Bosco Bosco curmudgeon section of the 
  theater (not that anything is wrong with that). If memory serves me 
  correctly both of you were in the same (wrong) camp regarding the first 
  Matrix movie - and, for many of the same reasons. 
  
  As an old (former) friend once told me: There is no accounting for taste - 
  AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY! 
  
  You can both be right and still be wrong. I recently saw The Hangover and 
  I don't get it. It is stupid, pointlessly violent, (racist even) - but not 
  funny. Millions beg to disagree with me. 
  
  You two gentlemen obviously have both taste and erudition so I will just 
  chalk this up to different strokes for different folks. 
  
  ~rave! 
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 
   
   I plan to see it later today, having been late to the party as well. I'm 
   looking forward to it, based on your take, to compare against the hype. 
   
   - Original Message

Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor

2010-09-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, that was something else 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 12:27:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear 
reactor 






Did you see the show where they debuted the plasma powered engine? 


On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Ha-ha! I was watching one of the great science shows on cable recently. I think 
it was The Universe on The History Channel. They had an ep on deep space 
probes and discussed ion powered ships. The program indicated they're getting 
better all the time, and that in the next ten - twenty years, we may be able to 
see a severalfold increase in the speed of probes using ion power. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 6:15:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear 
reactor 






Aside from the battery, I'm not seeing anything wrong with that idea... 





On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









Somewhere in my old house in Fort Worth is a schematic of an ion drive I did in 
second grade, after watching an ep of Star Trek (had to be Spock's Brain), 
and reading about electrolytes in my encyclopedia set. I'd read about how 
cesium, when immersed in water, would produce ions in solution, and I'd read 
about theories for Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), the idea of using fusion power 
to drive plasma as a source of motion. Then there was that Trek ep where they 
said the aliens who took Spock's brain used ion power, which Kirk said was even 
beyond Federation tech. So, sure that I'd stumbled on a major secret, I took 
pen to paper. I drew a cutaway of the Jupiter Two from Lost in Space. Inside 
was a giant water tank. Sitting next to the tank, like a coal scuttle on a stem 
locomotive, was a big pile of cesium bricks--just sitting there. Next to them 
were some crazy robot arms with gloved hands (think of all the robot 
extremities as depicted in old cartoons). The robot hands--two of them--would 
take turns dumping cesium bricks into the water tank. Attached to the tank was 
a big A battery and wiring so that the ions in solution could be driven to one 
side of the tank by the negative pole of the battery. I then had what was for 
all the world a tailpipe sticking out the side of the ship, through which the 
electrons would shoot into space. 
Of course, my eight year old self was certain I'd just solved the problem of 
both ion drive and FTL travel. To this day I remember how excited I was at what 
I thought I'd created! 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 4:02:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear 
reactor 






The truly futuristic stuff is starting to appear. Once people completely move 
away from the big government thinking on energy I think the flood gates will 
open with new ideas. 


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Took them long enough. 

One of my college instructors had a similar thought back in the late 70s. A 
shame he's passed on. 





On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Here are details of the subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor 
designed by Nobel Laureate Carlo Rubbia. This reactor was given a supportive 
article by the UK Telegraph. It has been extensively studied for over 15 years 
and is expected to have half the cost of existing light water reactors and burn 
up almost all of the nuclear fuel. The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has 
bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for the thorium fuel-cycle, and is working on his 
design for a proton accelerator at its UK operation. They are raising 100 
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wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

2010-09-04 Thread Keith Johnson
I like that they don't use fancy computerization to change or enhance the 
sound, just basic acoustics and recording devices. John Mellencamp's new album 
was recorded the same way. He recorded in different locations while on tour, 
including an old black church in Savannah, GA. The raw and real acoustics of 
such sessions is infinitely more appealing to me than the edit-heavy stuff we 
often get nowadays. 
Another reason I've been jonesing for old school music is that it features more 
instruments. I'm really sad at how so few black artists play instruments 
nowadays. We're the people who created the ancestor of the banjo, the ones who 
made the guitar so special with blues, RB, and rock-and-roll. Our tearing up 
the keys and horns in ragtime and jazz set the standards for American music. 
Nowadays it's rare as heck to hear a black singer who plays guitar, who also 
gets radio airplay. Tracy Chapman is a goddess of the guitar and good song 
writing, but when's the last time you heard her on the radio? When's the last 
time you really heard a true band with guitars and pianos instead of drum 
machines and computerized music? When's the last time you heard a real 
orchestra a la Earth Wind and Fire get wide play on urban radio? You get a few 
here and there like Alicia Keyes (who I'm liking less and less as the years go 
by), but not as many as in the old days. Few of our most popular artists play 
instruments, and even when they though, I'm stunned at how out of favor the 
guitar seems to be in RB and hip hop nowadays. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 6:19:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 






There's an article in EQ magazine on how they recorded the album a few months 
back. 


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I'm always searching for real music that's outside of the standard 
hip-hip/finger poppin'/dance heavy stuff played on commercial radio (how many 
times in one day can one stomach Beyonce Knowles, Lady Gaga, or Bieber???) A 
while back I heard an interview on Fresh Air with a group called Sharon Jones 
and the Dap-Kings. This group is amazing, with a sound that hails back to the 
days of good old soul and funk. Jones has that rich, raspy voice that lends 
itself to heartfelt, even painful renditions, and her band sounds like 
something straight out of Stax records. They use old-fashioned methods to 
record: real tapes, hand editing, actual acoustics caused by the recording room 
instead of computer manipulations. Very, very good stuff. Albums are on iTunes: 
I bought two straightaway after listening to the NPR interview. 

Go to their web site to be treated to a listen to some of their latest songs, 
which start playing automatically. The first song up is I Learned the Hard 
Way, which has a real old feel to it. Other recent songs you have to seek out 
are Humble Me and the awesome 100 Days, 100 Nights, which sounds as if it 
came straight off an actual record from the 60s. 

Two links below. The first is to their website, where you can hear some of 
their songs. The second is to a great NPR SXSW showcase in Austin where Jones' 
group was the headliner. There you can hear the entire gig they performed, 
which is close to an a hour long. Highly recommended!! 


http://www.sharonjonesandthedapkings.com/ 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124091931 











Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

2010-09-04 Thread Keith Johnson
So the dank whiskey drowned nightclub is a *good* thing, right? 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 1:26:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 






Amy Winehouse sounds like she came out of some dank whiskey drowned nightclub 
from the 50s. Unfortunately, she isn't consistent and has a major drug problem. 


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I've never listened to Amy Winehouse. What's so good about her? Another good 
singer who has an old school sound is Leela James 


- Original Message - 
From: B Smith  daikaij...@yahoo.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 3:23:49 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 






I like them in small doses but Sharon does the damn thing and their live shows 
are epic. I liked at first Amy Winehouse but that crap of crowning her the new 
face of soul music really galled me. She was just trend jumping like a lot of 
other singers do and she blew up. 

Good recommendations from your e-mail. I'd add Soulive, Jamie Lidell, Joss 
Stone(especially her work with Raphael Saadiq) and Cee-lo Green as folks you 
might want to seek out. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Enjoy! I got the following from a lady in response to the e-mail: 
 
 FYI they have been around for quite a while...The Dap Kings moonlight as the 
 band for Amy Winehouse as well. If you like them and that retro soul feel, 
 also check out Raphael Saadiq, Rahsaan Patterson, and this young funky white 
 kid Mayer Hawthorne... 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 2:20:02 PM 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks, Keith! I'll have a look/listen as soon as I clear my table here and 
 pay some bills. 

 
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm always searching for real music that's outside of the standard 
 hip-hip/finger poppin'/dance heavy stuff played on commercial radio (how many 
 times in one day can one stomach Beyonce Knowles, Lady Gaga, or Bieber???) A 
 while back I heard an interview on Fresh Air with a group called Sharon 
 Jones and the Dap-Kings. This group is amazing, with a sound that hails back 
 to the days of good old soul and funk. Jones has that rich, raspy voice that 
 lends itself to heartfelt, even painful renditions, and her band sounds like 
 something straight out of Stax records. They use old-fashioned methods to 
 record: real tapes, hand editing, actual acoustics caused by the recording 
 room instead of computer manipulations. Very, very good stuff. Albums are on 
 iTunes: I bought two straightaway after listening to the NPR interview. 
 
 Go to their web site to be treated to a listen to some of their latest songs, 
 which start playing automatically. The first song up is I Learned the Hard 
 Way, which has a real old feel to it. Other recent songs you have to seek 
 out are Humble Me and the awesome 100 Days, 100 Nights, which sounds as 
 if it came straight off an actual record from the 60s. 
 
 Two links below. The first is to their website, where you can hear some of 
 their songs. The second is to a great NPR SXSW showcase in Austin where 
 Jones' group was the headliner. There you can hear the entire gig they 
 performed, which is close to an a hour long. Highly recommended!! 
 
 
 http://www.sharonjonesandthedapkings.com/ 
 
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124091931 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
 













Re: [scifinoir2] Nanocrystal conductors could lead to massive, robust 3-D storage and extend Moore's Law

2010-09-04 Thread Keith Johnson
damn that is *huge*!! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 4:49:33 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Nanocrystal conductors could lead to massive, robust 3-D 
storage and extend Moore's Law 








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Last year we reported on a breakthrough by researchers at Rice University that 
brought graphite’s potential as a mass data storage medium a step closer to 
reality and created the potential for reprogrammable gate arrays that could 
bring about a revolution in integrated circuit design and extend the limits of 
miniaturization subject to Moore’s Law. The researchers showed how electrical 
current could repeatedly break and reconnect 10-nanometer strips of graphite to 
create a robust reliable memory “bit”. At the time, they didn’t fully 
understand why it worked so well. Well, a year is a long time in science and 
now they do. 

By creating the first two-terminal memory chips that use only silicon, one of 
the most common substances on the planet, a new collaboration by the Rice labs 
professors James Tour, Douglas Natelson and Lin Zhong proved the circuit 
doesn't need the carbon at all. Jun Yao, a graduate student in Tour's lab 
confirmed his breakthrough idea when he sandwiched a layer of silicon oxide, an 
insulator, between semiconducting sheets of polycrystalline silicon that served 
as the top and bottom electrodes. 

Applying a charge to the electrodes created a conductive pathway by stripping 
oxygen atoms from the silicon oxide and forming a chain of nano-sized silicon 
crystals. Once formed, the chain can be repeatedly broken and reconnected by 
applying a pulse of varying voltage. 

The nanocrystal wires are as small as 5 nanometers (billionths of a meter) 
wide, far smaller than circuitry in even the most advanced computers and 
electronic devices. 

The beauty of it is its simplicity, said Tour. That will be key to the 
technology's scalability, he said. Silicon oxide switches or memory locations 
require only two terminals, not three (as in flash memory), because the 
physical process doesn't require the device to hold a charge. 

It also means layers of silicon-oxide memory can be stacked in tiny but 
capacious three-dimensional arrays. I've been told by industry that if you're 
not in the 3-D memory business in four years, you're not going to be in the 
memory business. This is perfectly suited for that, Tour said. 

Silicon-oxide memories are compatible with conventional transistor 
manufacturing technology, said Tour, who recently attended a workshop by the 
National Science Foundation and IBM on breaking the barriers to Moore's Law, 
which states the number of devices on a circuit doubles every 18 to 24 months. 

Manufacturers feel they can get pathways down to 10 nanometers. Flash memory 
is going to hit a brick wall at about 20 nanometers. But how do we get beyond 
that? Well, our technique is perfectly suited for sub-10-nanometer circuits, 
he said. 

Austin tech design company PrivaTran is already bench testing a silicon-oxide 
chip with 1,000 memory elements built in collaboration with the Tour lab. 

Yao had a hard time convincing his colleagues that silicon oxide alone could 
make a circuit. Other group members didn't believe him, said Tour, who added 
that nobody recognized silicon oxide's potential, even though it's the 
most-studied material in human history. 

Most people, when they saw this effect, would say, 'Oh, we had silicon-oxide 
breakdown,' and they throw it out, he said. It was just sitting there waiting 
to be exploited. 

In other words, what used to be a bug turned out to be a feature. 

Yao persisted with his idea. He first substituted a variety of materials for 
graphite and found none of them changed the circuit's performance. Then he 
dropped the carbon and metal entirely and sandwiched silicon oxide between 
silicon terminals. It worked. 

It was a really difficult time for me, because people didn't believe it, Yao 
said. Finally, as a proof of concept, he cut a carbon nanotube to localize the 
switching site, sliced out a very thin piece of silicon oxide by focused ion 
beam and identified a nanoscale silicon pathway under a transmission electron 
microscope. 

This is research, Yao said. If you do something and everyone nods their 
heads, then it’s 

Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor

2010-09-04 Thread Keith Johnson
Somewhere in my old house in Fort Worth is a schematic of an ion drive I did in 
second grade, after watching an ep of Star Trek (had to be Spock's Brain), 
and reading about electrolytes in my encyclopedia set. I'd read about how 
cesium, when immersed in water, would produce ions in solution, and I'd read 
about theories for Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), the idea of using fusion power 
to drive plasma as a source of motion. Then there was that Trek ep where they 
said the aliens who took Spock's brain used ion power, which Kirk said was even 
beyond Federation tech. So, sure that I'd stumbled on a major secret, I took 
pen to paper. I drew a cutaway of the Jupiter Two from Lost in Space. Inside 
was a giant water tank. Sitting next to the tank, like a coal scuttle on a stem 
locomotive, was a big pile of cesium bricks--just sitting there. Next to them 
were some crazy robot arms with gloved hands (think of all the robot 
extremities as depicted in old cartoons). The robot hands--two of them--would 
take turns dumping cesium bricks into the water tank. Attached to the tank was 
a big A battery and wiring so that the ions in solution could be driven to one 
side of the tank by the negative pole of the battery. I then had what was for 
all the world a tailpipe sticking out the side of the ship, through which the 
electrons would shoot into space. 
Of course, my eight year old self was certain I'd just solved the problem of 
both ion drive and FTL travel. To this day I remember how excited I was at what 
I thought I'd created! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 4:02:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear 
reactor 






The truly futuristic stuff is starting to appear. Once people completely move 
away from the big government thinking on energy I think the flood gates will 
open with new ideas. 


On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Took them long enough. 

One of my college instructors had a similar thought back in the late 70s. A 
shame he's passed on. 





On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Here are details of the subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor 
designed by Nobel Laureate Carlo Rubbia. This reactor was given a supportive 
article by the UK Telegraph. It has been extensively studied for over 15 years 
and is expected to have half the cost of existing light water reactors and burn 
up almost all of the nuclear fuel. The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has 
bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for the thorium fuel-cycle, and is working on his 
design for a proton accelerator at its UK operation. They are raising 100 
million pounds ($150 million USD) for the next stage of an estimated 2 billion 
pound ($3 billion USD) project to develop the first commercial unit. 




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[scifinoir2] OT: For a Different Sound: The Carolina Chocolate Drops

2010-09-04 Thread Keith Johnson
Okay, as they said on Monty Python, And now for something completely 
different. The Carolina Chocolate Drops are a banjo and jug band from North 
Carolina, which ain't that unusual until you realize they're all young black 
musicians. They play some deep ol' Southern country mountain music that hails 
from waaay back in the day! Give a listen and you'll swear you're back in the 
holler listening to some old boys pickin' on a fiddle and banjo, or perhaps 
stumbled across an old ep of Hee Haw. Unknown to many, much of the roots for 
what's now called country music comes from blacks: the banjo and guitar were 
mainstays of black musicians until well into the 20th Century. 
Now this may not be many folks' cup of tea. Me, I love all music when it's done 
well, and I'm a sucker for any well played stringed instrument, be it guitar, 
banjo or fiddle. And I guess I'm enough of a Texas boy that I love me some good 
old down home music! My poor wife often shakes her head when I tune into the 
local radio station's programs dedicated to cowboy, banjo, or zydeco tunes! I 
can tap my feet, slap my knee, and dance a jig--what the Beverly Hillbillies 
called fancy foot steppin'-- with the best of 'em! 

Check out some video clips of the Drops, who just released a new album, 
Genuine Negro Jig, which I will be downloading from iTunes--much to my wife's 
chagrin. She tells me all the time that for all my sophistication and love of 
IT, modern music, and whatnot, I'm still just a country boy from Cowtown! I 
don't get it: doesn't everyone listen to cowboy music now and then? 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xOxHyTP91cfeature=fvw 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdLRCSOZ7wo 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbcqGjeNz7wfeature=related 


http://www.carolinachocolatedrops.com/ 

Band Biography 

“Tradition is a guide, not a jailer. We play in an older tradition but we are 
modern musicians.” 

—Justin Robinson 

In the summer and fall of 2005, three young black musicians, Dom Flemons, 
Rhiannon Giddens, and Justin Robinson, made the commitment to travel to Mebane, 
N.C., every Thursday night to sit in the home of old-time fiddler Joe Thompson 
for a musical jam session. Joe was in his 80’s, a black fiddler with a short 
bowing style that he inherited from generations of family musicians. He had 
learned to play a wide ranging set of tunes sitting on the back porch with 
other players after a day of field work. Now he was passing those same lessons 
on to a new generation. 

When the three students decided to form a band, they didn’t have big plans. It 
was mostly a tribute to Joe, a chance to bring his music back out of the house 
again and into dance halls and public places. They called themselves The 
Chocolate Drops as a tip of the hat to the Tennessee Chocolate Drops, three 
black brothers Howard, Martin and Bogan Armstrong, who lit up the music scene 
in the 1930’s. Honing and experimenting with Joe’s repertoire, the band often 
coaxed their teacher out of the house to join them on stage. Joe’s charisma and 
charm regularly stole the show. 

Being young and living in the 21st century, the Chocolate Drops first hooked up 
through a yahoo group, Black Banjo: Then and Now (BBTN) hosted by Tom Thomas 
and Sule Greg Wilson. Dom was still living in Arizona, but in April 2005, when 
the web-chat spawned the Black Banjo Gathering in Asheville, N.C., he flew east 
and ended moving to the Piedmont where he could get at the music first hand. 
Joe Thompson’s house was the proof in the pudding. 

The Chocolate Drops started playing around, rolling out the tunes wherever 
anyone would listen. From town squares to farmer’s markets, they perfected 
their playing and began to win an avid following of foot-tapping, sing-along, 
audiences. In 2006, they picked up a spot at the locally-based Shakori Hills 
Festival where they lit such a fire on the dance tent floor that Tim and Denise 
Duffy of the Music Maker Relief Foundation came over to see what was going on. 
Rhiannon remembers being skeptical when this local Hillsborough, N.C., guy with 
a goofy smile and a roster of old blues musicians offered to take them on and 
promote their music. The band was still figuring out who they were and Duffy 
was offering to house them with people like Algie Mae Hinton, musicians who 
were not pretenders to a tradition, but the real thing. 

The connection turned out to be a great match. While the young “Drops” were 
upstarts in a stable of deep tradition, they were also the link between past 
and future. They began to expand their repertoire, taking advantage of what Dom 
calls “the novelty factor” to get folks in the door and then teaching and 
thrilling them with traditional music that was evolving as they performed. They 
teased audiences with history on tunes like “Dixie”, the apparent Southern 
anthem that musicologists suggest was stolen by the black-face minstrel Dan 
Emmert from the Snowden family, 

Re: [scifinoir2] Finally Saw Inception

2010-09-04 Thread Keith Johnson
I plan to see it later today, having been late to the party as well. I'm 
looking forward to it, based on your take, to compare against the hype. 

- Original Message - 
From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com 
To: Sci Fi Noir scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 11:44:59 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Finally Saw Inception 






Lots of cool visual effects and technical complexities. It turns out the tech 
complexities are mostly irrelevant. In fact the entire dreaming and reality 
part of the story is pretty much pointless. It's a basically a sci fi twist on 
some really old themes. The sci fi part is really fun but those old themes have 
been conquered by better men with better skills both in director's chair and in 
front of the camera. I would hazard a guess that beyond some simple nostalgia 
in a few years no one will remember this one or care about it. It won't hold 
up. You can boil the entire movie down to father issues and regret issues and 
both have been done better and more intelligently. I know I'm late to the party 
and I'm clearly old because I don't find the hype accurate but I figured I 
would weigh in anyway 

Bosco 




Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

2010-09-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Enjoy! I got the following from a lady in response to the e-mail: 

FYI they have been around for quite a while...The Dap Kings moonlight as the 
band for Amy Winehouse as well. If you like them and that retro soul feel, also 
check out Raphael Saadiq, Rahsaan Patterson, and this young funky white kid 
Mayer Hawthorne... 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 2:20:02 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 






Thanks, Keith! I'll have a look/listen as soon as I clear my table here and pay 
some bills. 


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









I'm always searching for real music that's outside of the standard 
hip-hip/finger poppin'/dance heavy stuff played on commercial radio (how many 
times in one day can one stomach Beyonce Knowles, Lady Gaga, or Bieber???) A 
while back I heard an interview on Fresh Air with a group called Sharon Jones 
and the Dap-Kings. This group is amazing, with a sound that hails back to the 
days of good old soul and funk. Jones has that rich, raspy voice that lends 
itself to heartfelt, even painful renditions, and her band sounds like 
something straight out of Stax records. They use old-fashioned methods to 
record: real tapes, hand editing, actual acoustics caused by the recording room 
instead of computer manipulations. Very, very good stuff. Albums are on iTunes: 
I bought two straightaway after listening to the NPR interview. 

Go to their web site to be treated to a listen to some of their latest songs, 
which start playing automatically. The first song up is I Learned the Hard 
Way, which has a real old feel to it. Other recent songs you have to seek out 
are Humble Me and the awesome 100 Days, 100 Nights, which sounds as if it 
came straight off an actual record from the 60s. 

Two links below. The first is to their website, where you can hear some of 
their songs. The second is to a great NPR SXSW showcase in Austin where Jones' 
group was the headliner. There you can hear the entire gig they performed, 
which is close to an a hour long. Highly recommended!! 


http://www.sharonjonesandthedapkings.com/ 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124091931 








-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

2010-09-03 Thread Keith Johnson
I've never listened to Amy Winehouse. What's so good about her? Another good 
singer who has an old school sound is Leela James 


- Original Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 3:23:49 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 






I like them in small doses but Sharon does the damn thing and their live shows 
are epic. I liked at first Amy Winehouse but that crap of crowning her the new 
face of soul music really galled me. She was just trend jumping like a lot of 
other singers do and she blew up. 

Good recommendations from your e-mail. I'd add Soulive, Jamie Lidell, Joss 
Stone(especially her work with Raphael Saadiq) and Cee-lo Green as folks you 
might want to seek out. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Enjoy! I got the following from a lady in response to the e-mail: 
 
 FYI they have been around for quite a while...The Dap Kings moonlight as the 
 band for Amy Winehouse as well. If you like them and that retro soul feel, 
 also check out Raphael Saadiq, Rahsaan Patterson, and this young funky white 
 kid Mayer Hawthorne... 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 2:20:02 PM 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks, Keith! I'll have a look/listen as soon as I clear my table here and 
 pay some bills. 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm always searching for real music that's outside of the standard 
 hip-hip/finger poppin'/dance heavy stuff played on commercial radio (how many 
 times in one day can one stomach Beyonce Knowles, Lady Gaga, or Bieber???) A 
 while back I heard an interview on Fresh Air with a group called Sharon 
 Jones and the Dap-Kings. This group is amazing, with a sound that hails back 
 to the days of good old soul and funk. Jones has that rich, raspy voice that 
 lends itself to heartfelt, even painful renditions, and her band sounds like 
 something straight out of Stax records. They use old-fashioned methods to 
 record: real tapes, hand editing, actual acoustics caused by the recording 
 room instead of computer manipulations. Very, very good stuff. Albums are on 
 iTunes: I bought two straightaway after listening to the NPR interview. 
 
 Go to their web site to be treated to a listen to some of their latest songs, 
 which start playing automatically. The first song up is I Learned the Hard 
 Way, which has a real old feel to it. Other recent songs you have to seek 
 out are Humble Me and the awesome 100 Days, 100 Nights, which sounds as 
 if it came straight off an actual record from the 60s. 
 
 Two links below. The first is to their website, where you can hear some of 
 their songs. The second is to a great NPR SXSW showcase in Austin where 
 Jones' group was the headliner. There you can hear the entire gig they 
 performed, which is close to an a hour long. Highly recommended!! 
 
 
 http://www.sharonjonesandthedapkings.com/ 
 
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124091931 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
 




Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings

2010-09-03 Thread Keith Johnson
 Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 3:23:49 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 






I like them in small doses but Sharon does the damn thing and their live shows 
are epic. I liked at first Amy Winehouse but that crap of crowning her the new 
face of soul music really galled me. She was just trend jumping like a lot of 
other singers do and she blew up. 

Good recommendations from your e-mail. I'd add Soulive, Jamie Lidell, Joss 
Stone(especially her work with Raphael Saadiq) and Cee-lo Green as folks you 
might want to seek out. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Enjoy! I got the following from a lady in response to the e-mail: 
 
 FYI they have been around for quite a while...The Dap Kings moonlight as the 
 band for Amy Winehouse as well. If you like them and that retro soul feel, 
 also check out Raphael Saadiq, Rahsaan Patterson, and this young funky white 
 kid Mayer Hawthorne... 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 3, 2010 2:20:02 PM 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Waayyy OT: Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks, Keith! I'll have a look/listen as soon as I clear my table here and 
 pay some bills. 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm always searching for real music that's outside of the standard 
 hip-hip/finger poppin'/dance heavy stuff played on commercial radio (how many 
 times in one day can one stomach Beyonce Knowles, Lady Gaga, or Bieber???) A 
 while back I heard an interview on Fresh Air with a group called Sharon 
 Jones and the Dap-Kings. This group is amazing, with a sound that hails back 
 to the days of good old soul and funk. Jones has that rich, raspy voice that 
 lends itself to heartfelt, even painful renditions, and her band sounds like 
 something straight out of Stax records. They use old-fashioned methods to 
 record: real tapes, hand editing, actual acoustics caused by the recording 
 room instead of computer manipulations. Very, very good stuff. Albums are on 
 iTunes: I bought two straightaway after listening to the NPR interview. 
 
 Go to their web site to be treated to a listen to some of their latest songs, 
 which start playing automatically. The first song up is I Learned the Hard 
 Way, which has a real old feel to it. Other recent songs you have to seek 
 out are Humble Me and the awesome 100 Days, 100 Nights, which sounds as 
 if it came straight off an actual record from the 60s. 
 
 Two links below. The first is to their website, where you can hear some of 
 their songs. The second is to a great NPR SXSW showcase in Austin where 
 Jones' group was the headliner. There you can hear the entire gig they 
 performed, which is close to an a hour long. Highly recommended!! 
 
 
 http://www.sharonjonesandthedapkings.com/ 
 
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124091931 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
 




Re: [scifinoir2] Geek time!

2010-09-01 Thread Keith Johnson
Right. Some of the newest, top-of-the-line LCD TVs from Sony and Samsung come 
with the LED backlights that help reduce the light bleed through, and hence 
give them darker blacks. But even then, all but the absolute newest (and most 
expensive) still can't match the blacks of plasma. And you're right that the 
240 mhz refresh rate is the best LCDs can do. I also find that, like 
audiophiles who prefer the warmer sound of older equipment, I like the 
warmer look of plasmas. Some LCDs look almost too sharp, too artificial. 

- Original Message - 
From: Sammie A jazzynupe...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 7:31:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Geek time! 






Keith, 

thanks man. yes, i prefer plasma because it has a 600mhz refresh rate...if u 
are into sports (as i am) u have 2 watch it on plasma. lcd at it's best is 
120mhz (some just 60 and a couple are now 240) are still slower than 600mhz. 
plus the added benefit is that the plasma has such richer color than an lcd. 
those bulbs behind the lcd cause's it 2 blur out some of the darker colors, but 
plasma gives you those deep rich blacks, and bright yellows. plus, it's a hell 
of a lot lighter 2 hoist up. 

Fate. 

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Geek time! 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 3:51 AM 






Congrats, and my praise for buying a plasma. I'm always inundated by friends 
and people at electronics stores who say LCD is the way to go, but I much 
prefer the look of plasma. 

- Original Message - 
From: Sammie A jazzynupe...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:14:17 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Geek time! 






o.k. so i just purchased a LG 50 plasma and a LG blu-ray player. they (LG) 
give u a one month free trial of Netflix with the blu-ray player. decided 2 
check it out. mind u, never tried netflix before. so as i am strolling through 
the menu's..in the television side i seeThe Dresden Files: 
Season 1 / 12 Episodes. now u know i am going 2 be really happy these next 2 
days! after that, it will be Farscape: Season 1 / 22 Episodes. by the weekend, 
i should be on Torchwood: Season 1 / 13 Episodes. think i am going 2 like this 
blu-ray player thing! 

Fate. 






Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Geek time!

2010-09-01 Thread Keith Johnson
Your cable modem/router does have wifi built in, right? 

- Original Message - 
From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 1:44:02 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Geek time! 






THANK YOU!!! I have been wanting to know how to do this for ages. 3 



~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 



On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 


If you own one of these devices: 

http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices?trkid=921401lnkctr=mh_nfrdlnkce=nrd-ohmlnkce=ttwisnittv
 

Follow the instructions on your device to get an activation code. 
Your computer and device must both be connected to the Internet to activate. 

I admit those instructions aren't as helpful as I would like them to be. I use 
my Viao laptop as my blu-ray player so I don't know where the activation code 
would be. 

But, for instance, to connect via the Wii console, Netflix sent me a disk. I 
inserted the disk and simply followed the steps that showed up on my television 
screen. Easy as pie. 

That option does not appear to be available for the blu-ray players. 

~(no)rave! 


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... 
wrote: 
 

 Yeah, but how do you enter that into your Blu-Ray? 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
 Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
 The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 
 
 



 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: 
 
  Shouldn't matter where your modem is...I believe all you need is the same 
  modem code you enter into your lap top (for Wi-Fi availability) - least 
  ways 
  thats the way it worked with my Wii. 
  
  ~rave! 
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ 
  wrote: 
   
   I have a Blu-Ray but have yet to figure out how to get it hooked up to 
  the 
   Internet. Prob is that it's in my living room and my cable modem is in my 
   bedroom. :-/ 
   
   
   ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
   Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
   Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
   The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 
   
   
   On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Sammie A jazzynupe007@ wrote: 
   


o.k. so i just purchased a LG 50 plasma and a LG blu-ray player. 
  they 
(LG) give u a one month free trial of Netflix with the blu-ray player. 
decided 2 check it out. mind u, never tried netflix before. so as i 
  am 
strolling through the menu's..in the television side i 
seeThe Dresden Files: Season 1 / 12 Episodes. now u know i am 
  going 2 
be really happy these next 2 days! after that, it will be Farscape: 
  Season 
1 / 22 Episodes. by the weekend, i should be on Torchwood: Season 1 / 
  13 
Episodes. think i am going 2 like this blu-ray player thing! 

Fate. 




   
  
  
  
  
   
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010

2010-08-31 Thread Keith Johnson
Kewl! Been waiting for this for years and years. We are getting very close to a 
true, flexible, paper thin full computer that you can roll up like a sheet of 
paper and tuck in your pocket. Remember the series Earth: Final Conflict? 
They had handheld communication devices that consisted of a tubular part out of 
which one rolled a flexible material that was the video screen. It was pretty 
cool. Of course, if memory serves, they also showed all the communications 
being handled by MCI, so I guess not all the predictions will come true! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:35:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 
inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010 






The Delta version at the bottom has wifi or 3G connectivity so there is 
probably some processing power there. I'm not sure where they would put the cpu 
though. It is very cool and makes me think of the future. 


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





The future is upon us... and I can't wait. Now, if they could integrate PC 
functionality into it... 





On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








This is too cool 
AUGUST 30, 2010 



LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 inch Color E-paper by the 
end of 2010 


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Korean elecronics manufacturer LG, who makes the screens for the Apple iPad and 
Amazon Kindle, has revealed in SEC filings that they are continuing to break 
new ground with e-paper technology, moving forward with plans for both color 
and flexible models that will work with both e-readers and tablets. 

LG Display has developed the world's largest flexible electronic-paper screen 
measuring 25cm by 40cm, which translates into a 19-inch screen size. With 0.3mm 
thickness and 130g weight, it utilizes a metal foil instead of a traditional 
glass to make itself both flexible and durable. 




Delta Electronics of Taiwan Has a 13 Inch color eReader Screen 
Delta Electronics has a 13.1 inch display was developed in collaboration with 
Bridgestone and uses particle-based color e-paper technology rather than the 
e-Ink common in other e-Readers, or the LCD in tablets like the iPad. 


At around 730 grams (about half the weight of an iPad) it's probably 
lightweight enough to sling in a laptop bag or backpack and not impact too much 
on the already overburdened carrier. Delta Electronics is claiming a 6,000 page 
battery life, and 3G or WiFi connectivity. There's pen input for making notes, 
too. It was shown off at Computex and should be commercially available by Dec, 
2010. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Geek time!

2010-08-31 Thread Keith Johnson
Congrats, and my praise for buying a plasma. I'm always inundated by friends 
and people at electronics stores who say LCD is the way to go, but I much 
prefer the look of plasma. 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:14:17 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Geek time! 






o.k. so i just purchased a LG 50 plasma and a LG blu-ray player. they (LG) 
give u a one month free trial of Netflix with the blu-ray player. decided 2 
check it out. mind u, never tried netflix before. so as i am strolling through 
the menu's..in the television side i seeThe Dresden Files: 
Season 1 / 12 Episodes. now u know i am going 2 be really happy these next 2 
days! after that, it will be Farscape: Season 1 / 22 Episodes. by the weekend, 
i should be on Torchwood: Season 1 / 13 Episodes. think i am going 2 like this 
blu-ray player thing! 

Fate. 




Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010

2010-08-31 Thread Keith Johnson
I think the flexible communicators were completely Earth created. The Taelons 
did provide other cool tech, such as the virtual glass forcefields, 
instantaneous teleportation, and other stuff. I also dug those bioengineered 
Skrill weapons that were grafted onto the wrists of Protectors 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:41:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 
inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010 






The device they used was a tube that contained the communicator. With the 
newest Iphone plus what the flexible monitors offer we are already looking at 
that possible future. Now all we need are some friendly aliens to give us 
technology. 


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Kewl! Been waiting for this for years and years. We are getting very close to a 
true, flexible, paper thin full computer that you can roll up like a sheet of 
paper and tuck in your pocket. Remember the series Earth: Final Conflict? 
They had handheld communication devices that consisted of a tubular part out of 
which one rolled a flexible material that was the video screen. It was pretty 
cool. Of course, if memory serves, they also showed all the communications 
being handled by MCI, so I guess not all the predictions will come true! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:35:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 
inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010 






The Delta version at the bottom has wifi or 3G connectivity so there is 
probably some processing power there. I'm not sure where they would put the cpu 
though. It is very cool and makes me think of the future. 


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





The future is upon us... and I can't wait. Now, if they could integrate PC 
functionality into it... 





On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








This is too cool 
AUGUST 30, 2010 



LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 inch Color E-paper by the 
end of 2010 


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and flexible models that will work with both e-readers and tablets. 

LG Display has developed the world's largest flexible electronic-paper screen 
measuring 25cm by 40cm, which translates into a 19-inch screen size. With 0.3mm 
thickness and 130g weight, it utilizes a metal foil instead of a traditional 
glass to make itself both flexible and durable. 




Delta Electronics of Taiwan Has a 13 Inch color eReader Screen 
Delta Electronics has a 13.1 inch display was developed in collaboration with 
Bridgestone and uses particle-based color e-paper technology rather than the 
e-Ink common in other e-Readers, or the LCD in tablets like the iPad. 


At around 730 grams (about half the weight of an iPad) it's probably 
lightweight enough to sling in a laptop bag or backpack and not impact too much 
on the already overburdened carrier. Delta Electronics is claiming a 6,000 page 
battery life, and 3G or WiFi connectivity. There's pen input for making notes, 
too. It was shown off at Computex and should be commercially available by Dec, 
2010. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010

2010-08-31 Thread Keith Johnson
the first season is very good. The next season or two are good, but there are 
major cast changes over the successive seasons that diminish the show's 
enjoyment. One character's loss in particular really damaged the series, but I 
won't spoil that for you. By the end, even the Taelons aren't the major alien 
race, and the show is much less inventive and original-seeming than it was at 
the beginning. I actually tired of wactching, and that, coupled with erratic 
airing times(often showing at 2 am on Saturdays here in Atlanta) resulted in my 
missing the entire final season. 
There were a lot of changes to the creative team behind the show, which 
resulted in the uneven and ultimately diminishing quality of the later years. 

The same thing happened, sadly, to Andromeda. That show started off as very 
entertaining, but in later years they'd gotten rid of the initial showrunner, 
Kevin Sorbo started wielding more power, and it became a muddled mess that I 
quit watching. Andromeda and EFC are both symbols--almost legends--among some 
scifi fans, as examples of shows that started off really good and original, 
then degenerated into disappointing junk. You will hear many a fan speak of 
loving those shows, then finally abandoning them. Back on this list, way before 
you joined, I used to bemoan the decline in quality of each show on a weekly 
basis, before finally getting tired of my own complaints, and just stopped 
watching. 

As for EFC, a bit of trivia: have you seen that commercial on TV recently where 
a guy has heartburn or something, is shirtless, and then paints his body blue 
in certain parts so you can see where he's hurting? That guy spent a couple of 
seasons as one of the leads on EFC. His character started out really cool, then 
became lame, like the show itself. 

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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:52:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 
inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010 






I only got to see a few episodes of the show. I didn't know that was airing 
here until someone told me. They had it playing at 3 or 4pm Saturday afternoons 
with no repeats. So it was often pre-empted by baseball games. Maybe I will 
rent the series. 


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I think the flexible communicators were completely Earth created. The Taelons 
did provide other cool tech, such as the virtual glass forcefields, 
instantaneous teleportation, and other stuff. I also dug those bioengineered 
Skrill weapons that were grafted onto the wrists of Protectors 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:41:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 
inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010 






The device they used was a tube that contained the communicator. With the 
newest Iphone plus what the flexible monitors offer we are already looking at 
that possible future. Now all we need are some friendly aliens to give us 
technology. 


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Kewl! Been waiting for this for years and years. We are getting very close to a 
true, flexible, paper thin full computer that you can roll up like a sheet of 
paper and tuck in your pocket. Remember the series Earth: Final Conflict? 
They had handheld communication devices that consisted of a tubular part out of 
which one rolled a flexible material that was the video screen. It was pretty 
cool. Of course, if memory serves, they also showed all the communications 
being handled by MCI, so I guess not all the predictions will come true! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:35:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 
inch Color E-paper by the end of 2010 






The Delta version at the bottom has wifi or 3G connectivity so there is 
probably some processing power there. I'm not sure where they would put the cpu 
though. It is very cool and makes me think of the future. 


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





The future is upon us... and I can't wait. Now, if they could integrate PC 
functionality into it... 





On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








This is too cool 
AUGUST 30, 2010 



LG will Mass Produce 19 inch Flexible e-Paper and 9.7 inch Color E-paper by the 
end of 2010 


12 Share 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Steampunks: The New Goth?

2010-08-30 Thread Keith Johnson
Great article, thanks! I know some of the adherents to the culture probably 
love some of the gadgets in Warehouse 13, such as the Tessla weapons, and the 
old-fashioned black-and-white videophones they use. And the fact that H.G. 
Wells *her*self is now on the show probably gives some of them thrills, too. 

Too bad: remember the good but shortlived series on SciFi several years ago, 
The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne? It'd do really well now. How about The 
Adventures of Brisco County Jr.? 


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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:57:08 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Steampunks: The New Goth? 






Steampunks: The New Goth? 
May 12, 2008 





So maybe im late on this one but just found out about this 
trend/movement/identity called Steampunks. They basically look super Gangs of 
New York, dressing in antique clothes, buying antique objects and for hardcore 
Steampunks– they redesign new technology like iPhones (wrapped in burnished 
brass) or Mac computers (modify keyboards with old cash register buttons and 
such), etc. 

I love the aesthetic and revival of old technology, but these peops claim they 
are the “new goth”. Let me tell you something Steampunkers, no one should ever 
want to be the new goth! Goth kids suck… if you’re still in Highschool and 
think its super OG, roll with it, but the day you graduate you better burn up 
your Wednesday Adams’ wardrobe because there’s nothing more un-original or 
stylish than turning in your personal identity for some non-mainstream outfit 
subscription (pent-up goth anger since 96′). 



Steampunk Moves Between 2 Worlds 


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From left, Deacon Boondini, the Great Gatsby and Giovanni James of the James 
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Published: May 8, 2008 


“MEET Showtime,” said Giovanni James, a musician, magician and inventor of 
sorts, introducing his prized dove, who occupies a spacious cage in Mr. James’s 
apartment in Midtown Manhattan. Showtime is integral to Mr. James’s magic act 
and to his décor, a sepia-tone universe straight out of the gaslight era. 


Multimedia 

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The structured clothing of the steampunk movement. More Photos » 

The lead singer of a neovaudevillian performance troupe called the James Gang, 
Mr. James has assembled his universe from oddly assorted props and castoffs: a 
gramophone with a crank and velvet turntable, an old wooden icebox and a 
wardrobe rack made from brass pipes that were ballet bars in a previous 
incarnation. 

Yes, he owns a flat-screen television, but he has modified it with a burlap 
frame. He uses an iPhone , but it is encased in burnished brass. Even his 
clothing — an unlikely fusion of current and neo-Edwardian pieces (polo shirt, 
gentleman’s waistcoat, paisley bow tie), not unlike those he plans to sell this 
summer at his own Manhattan haberdashery — is an expression of his keenly 
romantic worldview. 

It is also the vision of steampunk, a subculture that is the aesthetic 
expression of a time-traveling fantasy world, one that embraces music, film, 
design and now fashion, all inspired by the extravagantly inventive age of 
dirigibles and steam locomotives, brass diving bells and jar-shaped 
protosubmarines. First appearing in the late 1980s and early ’90s, steampunk 
has picked up momentum in recent months, making a transition from what used to 
be mainly a literary taste to a Web-propagated way of life. 

To some, “steampunk” is a catchall term, a concept in search of a visual 
identity. “To me, it’s essentially the intersection of technology and romance,” 
said Jake von Slatt, a designer in Boston and the proprietor of the Steampunk 
Workshop ( steampunkworkshop.com ), where he exhibits such curiosities as a 
computer furnished with a brass-frame monitor and vintage typewriter keys. 

That definition is loose enough to accommodate a stew of influences, including 
the streamlined retro-futurism of Flash Gordon and Japanese animation with its 
goggle-wearing hackers, the postapocalyptic scavenger style of “Mad Max,” and 
vaudeville, burlesque and the structured gentility of the Victorian age. In 
aggregate, steampunk is a trend that is rapidly outgrowing niche status. 

“There seems to be this sort of perfect storm of interest in steampunk right 
now,” Mr. von Slatt said. “If you go to Google Trends and track the number of 
times it is mentioned, the curve is almost algorithmic from a year and a half 
ago.” (At this writing, Google cites 1.9 million references.) 

“Part of the reason it seems so popular is the very difficulty of pinning down 
what it is,” Mr. von Slatt added. “That’s a 

Re: [scifinoir2] Wheat genome sequenced – superior types of wheat could result

2010-08-30 Thread Keith Johnson
Ah, next stop: quadrotriticale, the grain that was the source of so much 
contention in The Trouble with Tribbles. Remember Kirk's irritated 
disbelieving, You issued a Priority One distress call for a coupla tons of 
wheat?! 
And spy Garvin's correction, Not 'wheat'--'quadrotriticale!' 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:08:12 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Wheat genome sequenced – superior types of wheat could 
result 







Wheat genome sequenced – superior types of wheat could result 



By Ben Coxworth 

18:57 August 27, 2010 





UK scientists have sequenced the entire wheat genome, and released the data to 
crop breede...


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Scientists from the University of Liverpool, in collaboration with the 
University of Bristol and the John Innes Centre in Norfolk, have sequenced the 
entire wheat genome. They are now making the DNA data available to crop 
breeders to help them select key agricultural traits for breeding. The data is 
presently in a raw format, and will require further read-throughs and 
annotations, plus the assembly of the genetic data into chromosomes, before it 
can be fully applied. Using advanced genome sequencing platforms, however, the 
task isn’t as daunting as it might seem. While the sequencing of the human 
genome took 15 years to complete, the wheat genome has taken only a year. This 
is thanks in no small part to U Bristol’s next-generation genome analyzers, 
which can read DNA hundreds of times faster than the systems that were used to 
sequence the human genome. 

“The wheat genome is five times larger than the human genome and presents a 
huge challenge for scientists,” said U Bristol ’s Prof. Keith Edwards. “The 
genome sequences are an important tool for researchers and for plant breeders 
and by making the data publicly available we are ensuring this publicly funded 
research has the widest possible impact.” 

The reference species used in the study was Chinese Spring wheat. The 
scientists hope that by understanding the genetic differences between varieties 
with different desirable traits, selective breeding can produce new types of 
wheat better able to withstand drought and salinity, and that provide higher 
yields. Perhaps we could even finally see the much-sought-after perennial wheat 
. 

“It is predicted that within the next 40 years world food production will need 
to be increased by 50 per cent,” stated U Liverpool ’s Dr. Anthony Hall. 
“Developing new, low input, high yielding varieties of wheat, will be 
fundamental to meeting these goals.” 

The project is funded by the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research 
Council. 


Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks

2010-08-30 Thread Keith Johnson
God, I have *got* to have the ducats by Christmas to get one of these bad boys! 
They have officially supplanted my long time dream of getting a remote 
controlled copy of the Robot from Lost in Space! 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:20:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks 






Hehe... You could also use it as an alarm system. Can you imagine the look on 
someone's face when one of these rolled at them yelling Exterminate! 
Exterminate! 


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





I could live with one of those, Mr Worf. Park it in the foyer of my next 
residence, to spook any unwelcome visitors. 





On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Remote controlled Daleks 

by Paz 


Remote controlled Daleks

It’s hard to imagine that the Daleks have been around since 1963! Now, to 
capture some of the interest in the new Dr Who episodes, these super-looking 
remote-controlled models have been released. 

For those of you who don’t know, the Daleks are a race of mutants who live in 
these robotic shells. The shells themselves feature formidable weaponry, but 
despite the Daleks’ ruthlessly-determined efforts, they were never able to 
outsmart the Doctor – mainly because they famously couldn’t climb stairs. 

I never missed an episode of Dr Who, and I would have sold my soul for one of 
these things as a boy, but after the bitter rivalries between the Daleks’ 
creator, Terry Nation and the BBC, the commercial merchandise was withdrawn. It 
looks like Terry Nation’s passing and the popular success of the new series has 
spurred sort of deal to be made. 

These Daleks stand 8 inches tall and can be moved by rotating left and right, 
as well as forwards. The head twists, just like the “real” cyborg, and you can 
play a random, digitised sound from a list of 9 different phrases, and of 
course the beloved “You will be exterminated!” is included. The Daleks cost $55 
and come in three different colour schemes, but it’s pot luck on the colour 
choice, though I’ve no idea why! 

In any case, I’m ordering a Dalek (for my son), but it’s going back it’s not a 
red and black one! 

The remote-controlled Dalek from Think Geek . 






-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 









Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks

2010-08-30 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, so would Robby the Robot of Forbidden Planet fame. He was all over the 
place back in the day, including an ep of Twilight Zone, and as an evil robot 
on Lost in Space. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:06:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks 






The robot from Lost in Space would be cool. I saw a miniature of that one for 
$200 at Tower Records a few years ago. It moved and lit up. Very cool. 


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






God, I have *got* to have the ducats by Christmas to get one of these bad boys! 
They have officially supplanted my long time dream of getting a remote 
controlled copy of the Robot from Lost in Space! 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:20:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks 






Hehe... You could also use it as an alarm system. Can you imagine the look on 
someone's face when one of these rolled at them yelling Exterminate! 
Exterminate! 


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





I could live with one of those, Mr Worf. Park it in the foyer of my next 
residence, to spook any unwelcome visitors. 





On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Remote controlled Daleks 

by Paz 


Remote controlled Daleks

It’s hard to imagine that the Daleks have been around since 1963! Now, to 
capture some of the interest in the new Dr Who episodes, these super-looking 
remote-controlled models have been released. 

For those of you who don’t know, the Daleks are a race of mutants who live in 
these robotic shells. The shells themselves feature formidable weaponry, but 
despite the Daleks’ ruthlessly-determined efforts, they were never able to 
outsmart the Doctor – mainly because they famously couldn’t climb stairs. 

I never missed an episode of Dr Who, and I would have sold my soul for one of 
these things as a boy, but after the bitter rivalries between the Daleks’ 
creator, Terry Nation and the BBC, the commercial merchandise was withdrawn. It 
looks like Terry Nation’s passing and the popular success of the new series has 
spurred sort of deal to be made. 

These Daleks stand 8 inches tall and can be moved by rotating left and right, 
as well as forwards. The head twists, just like the “real” cyborg, and you can 
play a random, digitised sound from a list of 9 different phrases, and of 
course the beloved “You will be exterminated!” is included. The Daleks cost $55 
and come in three different colour schemes, but it’s pot luck on the colour 
choice, though I’ve no idea why! 

In any case, I’m ordering a Dalek (for my son), but it’s going back it’s not a 
red and black one! 

The remote-controlled Dalek from Think Geek . 






-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
















Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks

2010-08-30 Thread Keith Johnson
don't know about that. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:31:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks 






Wasn't Robbie the first robot to get nominated for an award? 


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Yeah, so would Robby the Robot of Forbidden Planet fame. He was all over the 
place back in the day, including an ep of Twilight Zone, and as an evil robot 
on Lost in Space. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:06:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks 






The robot from Lost in Space would be cool. I saw a miniature of that one for 
$200 at Tower Records a few years ago. It moved and lit up. Very cool. 


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






God, I have *got* to have the ducats by Christmas to get one of these bad boys! 
They have officially supplanted my long time dream of getting a remote 
controlled copy of the Robot from Lost in Space! 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:20:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Remote controlled Daleks 






Hehe... You could also use it as an alarm system. Can you imagine the look on 
someone's face when one of these rolled at them yelling Exterminate! 
Exterminate! 


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





I could live with one of those, Mr Worf. Park it in the foyer of my next 
residence, to spook any unwelcome visitors. 





On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








Remote controlled Daleks 

by Paz 


Remote controlled Daleks

It’s hard to imagine that the Daleks have been around since 1963! Now, to 
capture some of the interest in the new Dr Who episodes, these super-looking 
remote-controlled models have been released. 

For those of you who don’t know, the Daleks are a race of mutants who live in 
these robotic shells. The shells themselves feature formidable weaponry, but 
despite the Daleks’ ruthlessly-determined efforts, they were never able to 
outsmart the Doctor – mainly because they famously couldn’t climb stairs. 

I never missed an episode of Dr Who, and I would have sold my soul for one of 
these things as a boy, but after the bitter rivalries between the Daleks’ 
creator, Terry Nation and the BBC, the commercial merchandise was withdrawn. It 
looks like Terry Nation’s passing and the popular success of the new series has 
spurred sort of deal to be made. 

These Daleks stand 8 inches tall and can be moved by rotating left and right, 
as well as forwards. The head twists, just like the “real” cyborg, and you can 
play a random, digitised sound from a list of 9 different phrases, and of 
course the beloved “You will be exterminated!” is included. The Daleks cost $55 
and come in three different colour schemes, but it’s pot luck on the colour 
choice, though I’ve no idea why! 

In any case, I’m ordering a Dalek (for my son), but it’s going back it’s not a 
red and black one! 

The remote-controlled Dalek from Think Geek . 






-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 























Re: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world land speed record of 307.7mph

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
By the way, i know I've mentioned this several times before, but as for great 
speed on land, I'm a big fan of someday building a network of underground high 
speed subway trains in vacuum tunnels. If you built sealed tunnels, evacuated 
much of the atmosphere (to reduce the drag effects of air), and then put maglev 
trains on tracks in those tunnels, you could conceivably build a network of 
vehicles that could travel faster than current passenger jets. There'd be no 
need to crowd airports, no need to worry about jet fuel, weather, birds, etc. 
If you remember the post-nuclear holocaust movies from the 70s, there was one 
that had such a system. If was a Gene Roddenberry TV movie. I think it was 
Earth 2 or Genesis II. I can't remember, there were two such movies back 
then, both dealing with a scientist from our time being in suspended animation 
and awakening in a future post-nuclear war Earth. One had Alex Cord, the other, 
John Saxon. At any rate, whichever movie it was had those superspeed 
underground bullet trains, which captivated my imagination as a kid. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:58:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle 
world land speed record of 307.7mph 






Wikipedia says: The land speed record (or absolute land speed record ) is the 
highest speed achieved by a wheeled vehicle on land. There is no single body 
for validation and regulation; in practice the Category C (Special Vehicles) 
flying start regulations are used, officiated by regional or national 
organizations under the auspices of the Fédération Internationale de 
l'Automobile . [ 1 ] The record is standardized as the speed over a course of 
fixed length, averaged over two runs (commonly called passes). [ 2 ] Two runs 
are required in opposite directions within one hour, and new record mark must 
exceed the previous one by one percent to be validated. [ 3 ] 


The fastest is held by ThrustSSC of 763mph. The Japanese JR-Maglev is the 
fastest non-conventional train in the world, having achieved 581 km/h (361 mph) 
on a magnetic-levitation track. Unmanned rocket sleds that ride on rails have 
reached over 10,400 km/h (6,462 mph), equivalent to Mach 8.5. The fastest 
manned rail vehicle was a manned rocket sled, that travelled at 1,017 km/h (635 
mph). 


The fastest train is 405mph held by Spain. 



On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






That's cool. 
I have a question, though. Is this requirement that a vehicle make two runs, in 
opposite directions within an hour of each other, an American thing? I remember 
reading about how a guy had broken the land speed record in a jet car a few 
years back, but officially wasn't in the record books because his car suffered 
some problems, and he couldn't make the run in the opposite direction within 
the time limit. Made no sense to me because he did make the run once, and 
that's what should matter. I've never gotten this need to do it twice. Even if 
one wanted to think the speed was a fluke, it's real and can't be faked, so why 
not just take the first run and be done with it? 




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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:39:46 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world 
land speed record of 307.7mph 










Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world land speed record of 
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The Bullet Buckeye team from Ohio State University has set a world record 
average two-way speed of 307.7mph (495km/h) with its battery electric Venturi 
Buckeye Bullet 2.5. The lithium ion battery powered car eclipsed the previous 
245mph (394km/h) world land speed record for battery electric vehicles set in 
1999 by White Lightning. The new record was set by the Bullet at the Bonneville 
Salt Flats in Utah this week, is pending certification by the Federation 
Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), the worldwide motor sports governing 
body. 

The Bullet was required to make two speed runs, one each in opposite directions 
and within 60 minutes, in order to be considered for the record. While the 
record is officially

[scifinoir2] Genesis II is the Movie with the Bullet Train

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Got it. The movie in which I saw the system of high speed underground bullet 
trains (vactrains) was Genesis II, starring Alex Cord. It also had Mariette 
Hartley, who had a guest spot on an ep of Star Trek (the one where Spock and 
McCoy go back in time to a planet's ice age, and Spock loses emotional control 
and gets the hots for Hartley's character). I remember thinking those trains 
were freakin' awesome when I first saw the movie. Here's a blurb about the 
movie from Wikipedia. 
Note that Cord's character is named Dylan Hunt, the name that would later be 
lifted from Roddenberry's notes, and then applied to the TV series Andromeda. 

** 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_II_%28film%29 
Plot summary 


In 1979, NASA scientist Dylan Hunt ( Cord ) is working on Project Ganymede, a 
suspended animation system for astronauts on long-duration space flights . As 
chief of the project he volunteers for the first multi-day test. He places 
himself in chemically-induced hibernation deep inside Carlsbad Caverns ; while 
there, his lab is buried in an earthquake . The monitoring equipment is damaged 
and fails to awake him at the intended end of the test. He awakens instead in 
2133 A.D., emerging into a chaotic post-apocalyptic world. An event called The 
Great Conflict (a third and final World War ) destroyed the civilization of 
Hunt's time. Various new civilizations have emerged in a struggle for control 
of available resources. Those with the greatest military might and the will to 
use it have the greatest advantage. 

Dylan Hunt is accidentally found and rescued by an organization calling 
themselves PAX, which stood for peace (from the Latin). PAX members are the 
descendants of the NASA personnel who worked and lived at the Carlsbad 
Installation in Dylan's time. They are explorers and scientists who preserve 
what little information and technology survive from before the Conflict, and 
who seek to learn and acquire more in an effort to build a new civilization. 
Members of PAX find Dylan Hunt still sealed in the hibernation chamber. They 
revive him, and are thrilled to meet a survivor from before the Conflict. 

An elaborate Subshuttle transit system was constructed during the 1970's due to 
air transportation becoming too vulnerable to air attack. The Subshuttles were 
a rapid transport system that utilized magnetic levitation transports . They 
operated inside vactrain tunnels and ran at hundreds of miles per hour. The 
tunnels were comprehensive enough to cover the entire globe. The PAX 
organization has inherited the still working system and used it to dispatch 
their teams of troubleshooters. 

In the area once known as Arizona and New Mexico a totalitarian regime known as 
Tyranians rule the area. The Tyranians are mutants who possess greater prowess 
than average humans (they can be identified as possessing two navels ). Their 
leader discovers that Hunt has knowledge of nuclear power systems, and they 
offer him great rewards if he can repair their failing nuclear power generator. 
However, once under their power they attempt to force him to reactivate a 
nuclear missile system in their possession, with which they intend to destroy 
their enemies and dominate the region. Hunt is appalled by this small-scale 
replay of the events that must have led to the Conflict. He leads a revolt of 
the enslaved citizenry, sabotages the nuclear device, and destroys the reactor. 

To Hunt's dismay, the PAX leaders assert their pacifist nature and intentions. 
They are attempting to rebuild an idealistic society using all that was deemed 
good from Earth's past, and they regard Hunt's interference with a rival 
civilization and his destructive tactics as antithetical to this end. However, 
they also see great good in him and value his knowledge of the past. They ask 
Hunt to join PAX permanently but only if he can agree to never again take human 
lives. Hunt half-heartedly agrees. Security Chief Yuloff states that the 
rationale of taking lives to justify the saving of lives was what allowed The 
Great Conflict to happen in the first place. 


[scifinoir2] More Info on Vactrains

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Can you tell I love this stuff? :) 
Here's info on the vactrains, including references to the tech in movies and 
books. By the way, the movies I was mentioning about the scientist in the 
future were threefold. First was Genesis II, with Alex Cord as Dylon Hunt. 
Later came Planet Earth, with Hunt now played by John Saxon, but which was in 
the same continuity. Finally came John Saxon in Strange New World, which had 
a completely different story. in this case, he was an astronaut returning to 
Earth after two centuries in suspended animation in outer space. he and his 
fellow astronauts had intentionally been sent into the longer sleep by NASA to 
save them from an asteroid bombardment that was about to devastate Earth. 

** 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain 



A vactrain is a proposed, as-yet-unbuilt design for future high-speed railroad 
transportation. This would entail building maglev lines through evacuated 
(air-less) or partly evacuated tubes or tunnels. Though the technology is 
currently being investigated for development of regional networks, advocates 
have suggested establishing vactrains for transcontinental routes to form a 
global network. The lack of air resistance could permit vactrains to use little 
power and to move at extremely high speeds, up to (4000-5000 mph (6400–8000 
km/h) or 5-6 times the speed of sound at sea level and standard conditions), 
according to the Discovery Channel 's Extreme Engineering program  
Transatlantic Tunnel . 

Theoretically, vactrain tunnels could be built deep enough to pass under oceans 
, thus permitting very rapid intercontinental travel. Vactrains could also use 
gravity to assist their acceleration. If such trains went as fast as predicted, 
the trip between London and New York would take less than an hour, effectively 
supplanting aircraft as the world's fastest mode of public transportation. 

However, without major advances in tunnelling and other technology, vactrains 
would be prohibitively expensive. Alternatives such as elevated concrete tubes 
with partial vacuums have been proposed to reduce costs. 
History 


The modern concept of a vactrain, with evacuated tubes and maglev technology, 
was explored in the 1910s by American engineer Robert Goddard , who designed 
detailed prototypes while a university student. His train would have traveled 
from Boston to New York in 12 minutes, averaging 1,000 mph (1,600 km/h). The 
train designs were found only after Goddard's death in 1945. 

Russian professor Boris Weinberg offered a vactrain concept in 1914 in the book 
Motion without friction (airless electric way) and built the first maglev 
prototypes in 1913. 

Vactrains made headlines during the 1970s when a leading advocate, Robert F. 
Salter of RAND , published a series of elaborate engineering articles in 1972 
and again in 1978. 

An interview with Robert Salter appeared in the LA Times (June 11, 1972). He 
discussed, in detail, the relative ease with which the U.S. government could 
build a tube shuttle system using technologies available at that time. Maglev 
being poorly developed at the time, he proposed steel wheels. The chamber's 
door to the tube would be opened, and enough air admitted behind to accelerate 
the train into the tube. Gravity would further accelerate the departing train 
down to cruise level. Rising from cruise level, the arriving train would 
decelerate by compressing the rarefied air ahead of it, which would be vented. 
Pumps at the stations would make up for losses due to friction or air escaping 
around the edges of the train, the train itself requiring no motor. This 
combination of modified (shallow) gravity train and atmospheric railway 
propulsion would consume little energy but limit the system to subsonic speeds, 
hence initial routes of tens or hundreds of miles or kilometers rather than 
transcontinental distances were proposed. 

Trains were to require no couplers , each car being directly welded, bolted or 
otherwise firmly connected to the next, the route calling for no more bending 
than the flexibility of steel could easily handle. At the end of the line the 
train would be moved sideways into the end chamber of the return tube. The 
railway would have both an inner evacuated tube and an outer tunnel. At cruise 
depth, the space between would have enough water to float the vacuum tube, 
softening the ride. 

A route through the Northeast Megalopolis was laid out, with nine stations, one 
each in DC, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New York, Rhode Island, 
Massachusetts and two in Connecticut. Commuter rail systems were mapped for the 
San Francisco and New York areas, the commuter version having longer, heavier 
trains, to be propelled less by air and more by gravity than the intercity 
version. The New York system was to have three lines, terminating in Babylon , 
Paterson , Huntington , Elizabeth , White Plains , and St George . 

Salter also pointed out 

Re: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world land speed record of 307.7mph

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Thanks for links. But no, I was thinking of Genesis II, first, then Planet 
Earth as well. I watched both movies--all three, if you read my other 
posts--back in the day, and remember the vactrain in both of those movies. My 
confusion was not remembering quite whether Alex Cord or John Saxon was Dylan 
Hunt first. Cord was first, and his is the first movie I remember, with Saxon's 
next. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:52:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle 
world land speed record of 307.7mph 






Here is the opening of Genesis II: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkCzOuWt9Sgfeature=related 


Strangely, the same character and plot was used in the movie Planet Earth. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKVAguLxH1wfeature=related 


I think you were thinking of Planet Earth. 


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






By the way, i know I've mentioned this several times before, but as for great 
speed on land, I'm a big fan of someday building a network of underground high 
speed subway trains in vacuum tunnels. If you built sealed tunnels, evacuated 
much of the atmosphere (to reduce the drag effects of air), and then put maglev 
trains on tracks in those tunnels, you could conceivably build a network of 
vehicles that could travel faster than current passenger jets. There'd be no 
need to crowd airports, no need to worry about jet fuel, weather, birds, etc. 
If you remember the post-nuclear holocaust movies from the 70s, there was one 
that had such a system. If was a Gene Roddenberry TV movie. I think it was 
Earth 2 or Genesis II. I can't remember, there were two such movies back 
then, both dealing with a scientist from our time being in suspended animation 
and awakening in a future post-nuclear war Earth. One had Alex Cord, the other, 
John Saxon. At any rate, whichever movie it was had those superspeed 
underground bullet trains, which captivated my imagination as a kid. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:58:36 AM 



Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle 
world land speed record of 307.7mph 






Wikipedia says: The land speed record (or absolute land speed record ) is the 
highest speed achieved by a wheeled vehicle on land. There is no single body 
for validation and regulation; in practice the Category C (Special Vehicles) 
flying start regulations are used, officiated by regional or national 
organizations under the auspices of the Fédération Internationale de 
l'Automobile . [ 1 ] The record is standardized as the speed over a course of 
fixed length, averaged over two runs (commonly called passes). [ 2 ] Two runs 
are required in opposite directions within one hour, and new record mark must 
exceed the previous one by one percent to be validated. [ 3 ] 


The fastest is held by ThrustSSC of 763mph. The Japanese JR-Maglev is the 
fastest non-conventional train in the world, having achieved 581 km/h (361 mph) 
on a magnetic-levitation track. Unmanned rocket sleds that ride on rails have 
reached over 10,400 km/h (6,462 mph), equivalent to Mach 8.5. The fastest 
manned rail vehicle was a manned rocket sled, that travelled at 1,017 km/h (635 
mph). 


The fastest train is 405mph held by Spain. 



On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






That's cool. 
I have a question, though. Is this requirement that a vehicle make two runs, in 
opposite directions within an hour of each other, an American thing? I remember 
reading about how a guy had broken the land speed record in a jet car a few 
years back, but officially wasn't in the record books because his car suffered 
some problems, and he couldn't make the run in the opposite direction within 
the time limit. Made no sense to me because he did make the run once, and 
that's what should matter. I've never gotten this need to do it twice. Even if 
one wanted to think the speed was a fluke, it's real and can't be faked, so why 
not just take the first run and be done with it? 




- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:39:46 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world 
land speed record of 307.7mph 










Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world land speed record of 
307.7mph 



By Darren Quick 

21:14 August 25, 2010 




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Re: [scifinoir2] More Info on Vactrains

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah. I'm a bit surprised to see the concept has been around for decades--well 
nigh a century, in fact. But that shouldn't be a surprise seeing as people like 
H.G. Wells were envisioning futuristic tech before we even had electricity or 
the airplane. You're right about how we slow down our own progress. The 
estimated cost of a vactrain system in the trillions seems daunting, but how 
much do we waste on inefficient air travel that wastes fuel to combat air 
resistance, not to mention the fuel required to climb to cruising altitude in 
the first place? How about the pollution of the air from all the exhausts? 
The same short sighted thinking is why we're decades behind in alternative fuel 
development, efficient solar energy, and truly fuel efficient cars. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:58:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] More Info on Vactrains 






The vacuum train story is a prime example of how we slow down our progress due 
to costs. Can you imagine how different our world would have been by now if 
they had created a vactrain to travel across country? Or from NYC to London and 
Paris? 





On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Can you tell I love this stuff? :) 
Here's info on the vactrains, including references to the tech in movies and 
books. By the way, the movies I was mentioning about the scientist in the 
future were threefold. First was Genesis II, with Alex Cord as Dylon Hunt. 
Later came Planet Earth, with Hunt now played by John Saxon, but which was in 
the same continuity. Finally came John Saxon in Strange New World, which had 
a completely different story. in this case, he was an astronaut returning to 
Earth after two centuries in suspended animation in outer space. he and his 
fellow astronauts had intentionally been sent into the longer sleep by NASA to 
save them from an asteroid bombardment that was about to devastate Earth. 

** 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain 



A vactrain is a proposed, as-yet-unbuilt design for future high-speed railroad 
transportation. This would entail building maglev lines through evacuated 
(air-less) or partly evacuated tubes or tunnels. Though the technology is 
currently being investigated for development of regional networks, advocates 
have suggested establishing vactrains for transcontinental routes to form a 
global network. The lack of air resistance could permit vactrains to use little 
power and to move at extremely high speeds, up to (4000-5000 mph (6400–8000 
km/h) or 5-6 times the speed of sound at sea level and standard conditions), 
according to the Discovery Channel 's Extreme Engineering program  
Transatlantic Tunnel . 

Theoretically, vactrain tunnels could be built deep enough to pass under oceans 
, thus permitting very rapid intercontinental travel. Vactrains could also use 
gravity to assist their acceleration. If such trains went as fast as predicted, 
the trip between London and New York would take less than an hour, effectively 
supplanting aircraft as the world's fastest mode of public transportation. 

However, without major advances in tunnelling and other technology, vactrains 
would be prohibitively expensive. Alternatives such as elevated concrete tubes 
with partial vacuums have been proposed to reduce costs. 
History 


The modern concept of a vactrain, with evacuated tubes and maglev technology, 
was explored in the 1910s by American engineer Robert Goddard , who designed 
detailed prototypes while a university student. His train would have traveled 
from Boston to New York in 12 minutes, averaging 1,000 mph (1,600 km/h). The 
train designs were found only after Goddard's death in 1945. 

Russian professor Boris Weinberg offered a vactrain concept in 1914 in the book 
Motion without friction (airless electric way) and built the first maglev 
prototypes in 1913. 

Vactrains made headlines during the 1970s when a leading advocate, Robert F. 
Salter of RAND , published a series of elaborate engineering articles in 1972 
and again in 1978. 

An interview with Robert Salter appeared in the LA Times (June 11, 1972). He 
discussed, in detail, the relative ease with which the U.S. government could 
build a tube shuttle system using technologies available at that time. Maglev 
being poorly developed at the time, he proposed steel wheels. The chamber's 
door to the tube would be opened, and enough air admitted behind to accelerate 
the train into the tube. Gravity would further accelerate the departing train 
down to cruise level. Rising from cruise level, the arriving train would 
decelerate by compressing the rarefied air ahead of it, which would be vented. 
Pumps at the stations would make up for losses due to friction or air escaping 
around the edges of the train, the train itself requiring no motor. This 
combination

Re: [scifinoir2] Genesis II is the Movie with the Bullet Train

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
I used to love watching those movies when I was a kid in the '70s. Back then, I 
had several sources to watch scifi movies: 
ABC used to do a movie every day at 3 pm CST, after the soaps (and maybe after 
Dark Shadows). Each week had a theme, such as an Elvis week. There was always a 
scifi week around the corner, so I'd be treated to stuff like When Worlds 
Collide or The Angry Read Planet in the afternoon for five days in a row. 
CBS used to have a Friday night program called CBS Late Night, that came on 
after the talk shows at around 12:30 am CST. Late Night would air scifi and 
horror programs. That's where I saw stuff like Demon Seed, Colussus the 
Forbin Project, The Manitou, Fall of the House of Usher, The Raven, The 
Pit and the Pendulum, etc. 
The local NBC affiliate used to air scifi and horror at around midnight on 
Saturdays. i saw a lot of obscure horror, like one starring teen idol Frankie 
Avalon about a bunch of teens getting offed by a serial killer in a house in 
which they were spending the night. I remember watching a lot of movies about 
devil worshippers, witches, vampires, and the like. It was on this NBC segment 
that I saw both of those two-head transplant movies I was mentioning the other 
day. NBC also aired a series called Thriller, I believe, hosted by Boris 
Karloff. That aired around 1 or 2 am on Sunday mornings, after the late night 
horror/scifi movie. 
A local station--Channel 11 in Fort Worth--had a scifi/horror slot on Sundays 
around 1 pm. I remember settling in to watch movies as Mom fried chicken and 
cooked peach cobbler for Sunday dinner. on that station i saw movies like The 
deadly Mantis, Them, the original The thing, The Blob, and a lot of 
obscure fare, such as one in which a vampire was menacing a town in teh Old 
West, and was killed by a gunslinger who used a bullet with a Crucifix 
inscribed on it. 
Even later, in the '80s, another local station in DFW started airing 
scifi/horror on Saturday afternoons. A lot of them were forgettable, whose 
names escape me, but many later ended up on MST3K. Elvira's show was aired on 
this station as well, along with Kung Fu Theatre later in the day! 

Amazing: we had maybe five or six or seven VHF/UHF channels back then, no cable 
of course, no VCRs or DVDs, and no movie rentals. Yet those few stations 
somehow managed to air more scifi, horror, animation,and kung fu on a regular 
basis than I can get even know with dozens and dozens of cable channels to 
watch. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:01:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Genesis II is the Movie with the Bullet Train 






I forgot to mention that Genesis II is out on DVD. 


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Got it. The movie in which I saw the system of high speed underground bullet 
trains (vactrains) was Genesis II, starring Alex Cord. It also had Mariette 
Hartley, who had a guest spot on an ep of Star Trek (the one where Spock and 
McCoy go back in time to a planet's ice age, and Spock loses emotional control 
and gets the hots for Hartley's character). I remember thinking those trains 
were freakin' awesome when I first saw the movie. Here's a blurb about the 
movie from Wikipedia. 
Note that Cord's character is named Dylan Hunt, the name that would later be 
lifted from Roddenberry's notes, and then applied to the TV series Andromeda. 

** 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_II_%28film%29 
Plot summary 


In 1979, NASA scientist Dylan Hunt ( Cord ) is working on Project Ganymede, a 
suspended animation system for astronauts on long-duration space flights . As 
chief of the project he volunteers for the first multi-day test. He places 
himself in chemically-induced hibernation deep inside Carlsbad Caverns ; while 
there, his lab is buried in an earthquake . The monitoring equipment is damaged 
and fails to awake him at the intended end of the test. He awakens instead in 
2133 A.D., emerging into a chaotic post-apocalyptic world. An event called The 
Great Conflict (a third and final World War ) destroyed the civilization of 
Hunt's time. Various new civilizations have emerged in a struggle for control 
of available resources. Those with the greatest military might and the will to 
use it have the greatest advantage. 

Dylan Hunt is accidentally found and rescued by an organization calling 
themselves PAX, which stood for peace (from the Latin). PAX members are the 
descendants of the NASA personnel who worked and lived at the Carlsbad 
Installation in Dylan's time. They are explorers and scientists who preserve 
what little information and technology survive from before the Conflict, and 
who seek to learn and acquire more in an effort to build a new civilization. 
Members of PAX find Dylan Hunt still sealed in the hibernation chamber. They 
revive

Re: [scifinoir2] Genesis II is the Movie with the Bullet Train

2010-08-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Right. I think part of the problem is commercial deals in TV nowadays. For 
example, I once in my late 20s' realized that I had seen at least one ep of the 
original Star Trek weekly for the previous two decades non-stop! No matter what 
city I was in, I could find Star Trek airing on a local VHF or UHF channel. 
Back then, even cash strapped local stations could pay whatever fees were 
required to re-air shows like that--and Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants, great 
movies like Creature from the Black Lagoon, etc. Nowadays, a lot of classic TV 
and movie scifi and horror isn't nearly as ubiquitous, despite an explosion in 
the number of cable channels in those very genres. I think there's been a lot 
of deals where companies have bought exclusive rights to air programming, 
or--such as the case with TCM--own the films outright. So, I haven't seen the 
OS Trek on TV in ages, other than when the local ABC affiliate aired the 
digital enhanced version at 3 am on Sundays. I haven't seen DS9 in ages, 
Voyager seems to be Spike TV's thing, and they air it at 2 am. Classic horror 
movies starring the likes of Cushing and Lee only get pulled out of the TCM or 
AMC vaults during Halloween. We get subjected to horrible SyFy Originals, but 
don't get to see at least entertaining camp like Attack of the Killer 
Tomatoes, Gator, or even the Evil Dead movies much at all. 
Honestly, back in the days of Elvira, Kung Fu Theatre, and pre-cable, the 
scifi/horror watching was much better than it is today. 
I think that's why so many people are turning to the likes of NetFlix and the 
Internet, so that they can find all the programs that the cables stations seem 
to have locked up in exclusivity deals. 

- Original Message - 
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:42:48 AM 
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That's true! Every now and then Spike will show a bunch of martial art movies 
(also IFC) but that is only a couple of times a year. SCIFI is impossible to 
catch unless Will Smith is in the movie. 


One thing that I loved about old tv stations was that they all had their own 
collection of films. One of the local stations that was sold to WB was bought 
back by the original owner and now he is running old tv shows, and movies 
again. On Saturday nights they show old horror movies! Just like the good old 
days! :) 


Check out this list: 

Perry Mason, Streets of San Francisco, The Flying Nun etc. 


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I used to love watching those movies when I was a kid in the '70s. Back then, I 
had several sources to watch scifi movies: 
ABC used to do a movie every day at 3 pm CST, after the soaps (and maybe after 
Dark Shadows). Each week had a theme, such as an Elvis week. There was always a 
scifi week around the corner, so I'd be treated to stuff like When Worlds 
Collide or The Angry Read Planet in the afternoon for five days in a row. 
CBS used to have a Friday night program called CBS Late Night, that came on 
after the talk shows at around 12:30 am CST. Late Night would air scifi and 
horror programs. That's where I saw stuff like Demon Seed, Colussus the 
Forbin Project, The Manitou, Fall of the House of Usher, The Raven, The 
Pit and the Pendulum, etc. 
The local NBC affiliate used to air scifi and horror at around midnight on 
Saturdays. i saw a lot of obscure horror, like one starring teen idol Frankie 
Avalon about a bunch of teens getting offed by a serial killer in a house in 
which they were spending the night. I remember watching a lot of movies about 
devil worshippers, witches, vampires, and the like. It was on this NBC segment 
that I saw both of those two-head transplant movies I was mentioning the other 
day. NBC also aired a series called Thriller, I believe, hosted by Boris 
Karloff. That aired around 1 or 2 am on Sunday mornings, after the late night 
horror/scifi movie. 
A local station--Channel 11 in Fort Worth--had a scifi/horror slot on Sundays 
around 1 pm. I remember settling in to watch movies as Mom fried chicken and 
cooked peach cobbler for Sunday dinner. on that station i saw movies like The 
deadly Mantis, Them, the original The thing, The Blob, and a lot of 
obscure fare, such as one in which a vampire was menacing a town in teh Old 
West, and was killed by a gunslinger who used a bullet with a Crucifix 
inscribed on it. 
Even later, in the '80s, another local station in DFW started airing 
scifi/horror on Saturday afternoons. A lot of them were forgettable, whose 
names escape me, but many later ended up on MST3K. Elvira's show was aired on 
this station as well, along with Kung Fu Theatre later in the day! 

Amazing: we had maybe five or six or seven VHF/UHF channels back then, no cable 
of course, no VCRs or DVDs, and no movie rentals. Yet those few stations 
somehow managed to air more

Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Could be a million reasons. Don't know them, so can't say. Some do it because 
they honestly feel such areas have better quality of life (schools, homes, 
parks, etc). Some do it because they feel deep down that white is better--even 
if they can't admit it to themselves. I have some black friends like that, who 
live in majority white, very conservative areas. Always complaining about 
racism and stuff, but never seem to be able to find the will to move. Makes me 
impatient... 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:38:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






They live in the mostly white section of Marin county. The area is now much 
more integrated but back then it was about 99% white. They were doing pretty 
well though. (business owners, private school for the girls etc.) Thinking 
back, the lies that they told probably kept them alive in that area. I'm not 
sure why they moved there though. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Really? Where are they located? 

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From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:29:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






I think that there is a lot of demons in the closet on this topic that should 
be exercised. 


@Keith, I have family members that are passing for Portuguese. I only saw them 
twice when I was a kid. I wonder have any of them came out of the racial closet 
or not. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Not at all a surprise. First, the Jewish thing was always noised about. I often 
joke to my wife, why didn't someone, during any of his mass rallies, look at 
him and say Hey, waitaminute? Didn't he say 'blonde hair and blue eyes? WTF?? 
Secondly, given the centuries of exploration, migration, and conquest, a lot 
more Europeans have African and Asian blood in them than would like to admit. 
They need to do the same DNA tests on J. Edgar Hoover (rumoured to have black 
ancestry) and Babe Ruth (often called disparaging names for a black man by some 
of his white opponents). I've always been fascinated by people who've denied, 
hidden, or simply didn't know about their heritage. For example, former 
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright didn't discover until the last few years 
that she was Jewish. Her family evidently tried to hide that fact, no doubt to 
avoid a lot of problems in American society. I found her surprise surprising, 
as I'd always assumed she was, based on her looks. 

I've long been happy that i'm obviously black, and didn't grow up in a time, 
place, or family where trying to pretend to be something else was either an 
option, a desire, or even a necessity. There's a scene in one of the Easy 
Rollins books--it might be Devil in A Blue Dress--where Easy is staking out a 
hotel lobby. As he's sitting there, he notices a man sitting in a chair, well 
dressed, manicured nails, light olive skin. Idly curious, Easy stares at the 
man for a sec. They make eye contact, and the man literally starts looking 
agitated. Easy quickly realizes that the man in is fact at least part Black, 
and is obviously passing for something else--Italian or Greek, most likely. 
Easy looks away, silently assuring the brother that he's not going to blow 
his cover, cause right or wrong, the man feels he has to hide like that. Easy 
wasn't going to judge him or cause him pain. 

I've often had to fight a kind of knee jerk disgust at people of color who've 
passed for white, or who deny their African roots while embracing the European 
ones. I had a lot of trouble, honestly, with the Torres character on Voyager, 
for example, because she was ashamed of her Klingon heritage. But I've had to 
realize that some people have been raised in times and places where it's simply 
been too hard to be who they were. Maybe they were taking the easy route; maybe 
they were just trying to survive. I guess I shouldn't judge. 



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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:59:32 AM 
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African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says 

By Steven Fromm - Aug 24, 2010 7:39 AM PT 

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Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, I haven't noticed that. Although I do believe the US population is 
getting slightly taller, I thought it was a natural thing, not based on stuff 
in our food. 

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Maybe its a California thing but I was at a grade school recently and about 50% 
of the 6th graders close to my height or taller. I'm 5'10. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I don't think that height change is all that widespread yet. But I do know 
there's a noticeable change in the weight of youth, with more getting heavy 
earlier in life. there's also been the recently discussed fact that a lot of 
young girls are developing sooner than before... 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



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I think that aesthetic will disappear soon. Most of the youngsters that are in 
their teens right now are close to or above 6ft tall (In this area, possibly 
30-40%) so that tiny little waif look will eventually disappear. 


This brings up the question as to why hasn't anyone looked into the growth 
hormones that are being passed on to everyone. There is no reason whatsoever 
for these kids to be this big across the board. My 4yr old nephew is over 4 
feet tall now. At this rate by the time he is 10 he will be taller than me. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 




Oh, she's a gorgeous lady, one of the prettiest women in Hollywood. I'm just 
saying she's not curvy or voluptuous by any means, and I've heard some people 
go on about her great figure. But all I can conclude is that that's based on 
the modern love for slim-to-thin athletic builds that some champion nowadays. 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:20:33 AM 
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Here's the pic of Fox wearing the tshirt: 
http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/552/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/87/50/megan-foxa-all-star-party-6.jpg
 


I have to admit that it looks good on her. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 






On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about Megan Fox 
wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately thought now that's 
ridiculous! 

My skin has just left the building... 





On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








I think that Jolie looked better a couple of years back before she lost that 
last 20lbs. In Salt she looks dangerously underweight. 


I agree with you on all of the classic ladies. Most of them wore a size 6 or 8 
dress. In Hollywood the average is a size 2-4 now. I think currently Jolie is 
going for size 0. Which is the ultimate. 


On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about Megan Fox 
wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately thought now that's 
ridiculous! 







On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









No offense to any women here, but ah for the days when beauty in an actress 
wasn't about being skinny, blonde, and athletic looking. Remember when the 
(white) actresses in TV and film had actual curves, full lips, and were often 
brunette stunners? Sophia Loren, Racquel Welch, Liz Taylor, even Marilyn 
Monroe--all would be considered borderline overweight in the current 
atmosphere. I heard a lady on an entertainment show today say for the millionth 
time how breathtakingly beautiful Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Anniston wore, 
and wax ecstatic about their great figures. I see Anniston as fit but slim, 
Jolie as dangerously thin, and neither coming close to the standard of beauty 
of yesteryear. Although when made up, Jolie's feline features indeed are old 
school... 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Before and After visual efx of famous movie scenes

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
No, I've got the 60's illustrations e-mail, the movie review, and at least one 
or two others at least two or three times a day for several days now... 

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:23:52 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Before and After visual efx of famous movie scenes 






Keith, some of the posts from here are revisiting me as well. Mostly in my spam 
folder, but a few do pop up in the inbox. Glad to know it's not just me. 


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









Is it my Comcast mail system, or are several of your posts getting reposted 
every day or so? 


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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:25:09 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Before and After visual efx of famous movie scenes 






This is a small collection of clips from movies showing how the movie was shot 
and what was done via CGI and colorizing. 


http://www.techxilla.com/2009/11/17/visual-effects-of-your-favorite-movies-in-the-breakdown-mode/
 






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[scifinoir2] BBC America To Air Idris Elba Miniseries

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
I'd never heard of Luther before reading about it in my Comcast guide's list 
of upcoming shows for the fall. Sounds like it'll be pretty good. Elba's quite 
an actor, and this being a British production, you can count on it being of 
high quality and realism, especially with one of the guys behind the series 
MI-5 on board. 

* 

http://torforge.wordpress.com/2010/06/08/bbc-america-books-idris-elba-hourlong-series-luther/
 



BBC AMERICA REINVENTS CRIME THRILLER WITH WIRE STAR IDRIS ELBA 


BBC AMERICA today announced its latest U.S. premiere co-production. Luther , 
starring Idris Elba ( The Wire ), is a smart, six-part, psychological thriller 
that takes a bold new look at the crime genre. Elba is also Associate Producer 
on the project. 

* Luther (6 x 60) is a BBC/BBC AMERICA co-production and is distributed by BBC 
Worldwide. It will air later this year on BBC AMERICA. 

Idris Elba, best known for his performance as drug kingpin Russell “Stringer” 
Bell in HBO’s The Wire , now finds himself on the other side of the law. He 
plays John Luther, an intellectually brilliant but emotionally impulsive murder 
detective. He considers his profession a vocation rather than a job and it 
remains to be seen if he’s a force for good or a man hell bent on 
self-destruction. His confidante is also his arch-enemy Alice ( Ruth Wilson , 
Jane Eyre ), a beautiful multiple-murderess who evades his grasp early on, and 
with whom he becomes locked in a lethal battle of wits. 

Luther is created and written by acclaimed suspense novelist, and one of the 
lead writers on MI-5 , Neil Cross . He says: “I’m delighted that the BBC has 
brought Luther to life. It’s an intense psychological thriller which examines 
not only human depravity but the complex nature of love … and how it’s often 
this – our finest attribute – that leads us into darkness.” 

Elba is joined by an all-star cast: Ruth Wilson ( The Prisoner ) is Alice 
Morgan, beautiful, extraordinarily intelligent and a key witness in Luther’s 
first investigation; Steven Mackintosh ( Criminal Justice ) is Detective Chief 
Inspector Ian Reed and Luther’s loyal friend and work colleague; Indira Varma ( 
Rome ) is Zoe Luther, who’s had the strength to walk away from the man she 
still loves; Paul McGann ( Withnail and I ) is Mark North, unafraid to compete 
with Luther for Zoe’s love; Saskia Reeves ( Bodies ) is Detective 
Superintendent Rose Teller, Luther’s risk-taking boss and Warren Brown ( 
Occupation ) is Detective Sergeant Justin Ripley, Luther’s loyal, awestruck new 
partner. 

The deal was brokered by Matt Forde, EVP BBC Worldwide Sales  Co-Productions 
with Chris Carr, COO, BBC Worldwide Channels and Richard De Croce, SVP 
Programming, BBC AMERICA. 

Chris Carr says: “BBC AMERICA viewers have always loved British crime 
thrillers. Luther, puts a whole new spin on the genre and sucks you in with its 
intelligent storytelling and gripping plotlines. We’re thrilled to have Idris 
Elba on BBC AMERICA and intend to surprise a few people by revealing that he’s 
British!” 

Luther , airing later this year, adds to BBC AMERICA’S new slate of 
co-productions recently announced including sci-fi thriller Outcasts starring 
Eric Mabius ( Ugly Betty ) and Come Dine With Me , a cooking show which follows 
amateur chefs competing for the title of the ultimate dinner party host. (via 
Variety  TVbytheNum 


Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
Really sad, but not uncommon, unfortunately. 


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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:42:19 PM 
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African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






I asked my sister for a little more info. Apparently, they own a horse ranch 
and appear in local parades with their horses as Hispanic riders. 


From what I understand, their great grandmother was white, so I guess they are 
claiming that side of the family. 


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Could be a million reasons. Don't know them, so can't say. Some do it because 
they honestly feel such areas have better quality of life (schools, homes, 
parks, etc). Some do it because they feel deep down that white is better--even 
if they can't admit it to themselves. I have some black friends like that, who 
live in majority white, very conservative areas. Always complaining about 
racism and stuff, but never seem to be able to find the will to move. Makes me 
impatient... 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:38:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






They live in the mostly white section of Marin county. The area is now much 
more integrated but back then it was about 99% white. They were doing pretty 
well though. (business owners, private school for the girls etc.) Thinking 
back, the lies that they told probably kept them alive in that area. I'm not 
sure why they moved there though. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Really? Where are they located? 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:29:50 PM 
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African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






I think that there is a lot of demons in the closet on this topic that should 
be exercised. 


@Keith, I have family members that are passing for Portuguese. I only saw them 
twice when I was a kid. I wonder have any of them came out of the racial closet 
or not. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Not at all a surprise. First, the Jewish thing was always noised about. I often 
joke to my wife, why didn't someone, during any of his mass rallies, look at 
him and say Hey, waitaminute? Didn't he say 'blonde hair and blue eyes? WTF?? 
Secondly, given the centuries of exploration, migration, and conquest, a lot 
more Europeans have African and Asian blood in them than would like to admit. 
They need to do the same DNA tests on J. Edgar Hoover (rumoured to have black 
ancestry) and Babe Ruth (often called disparaging names for a black man by some 
of his white opponents). I've always been fascinated by people who've denied, 
hidden, or simply didn't know about their heritage. For example, former 
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright didn't discover until the last few years 
that she was Jewish. Her family evidently tried to hide that fact, no doubt to 
avoid a lot of problems in American society. I found her surprise surprising, 
as I'd always assumed she was, based on her looks. 

I've long been happy that i'm obviously black, and didn't grow up in a time, 
place, or family where trying to pretend to be something else was either an 
option, a desire, or even a necessity. There's a scene in one of the Easy 
Rollins books--it might be Devil in A Blue Dress--where Easy is staking out a 
hotel lobby. As he's sitting there, he notices a man sitting in a chair, well 
dressed, manicured nails, light olive skin. Idly curious, Easy stares at the 
man for a sec. They make eye contact, and the man literally starts looking 
agitated. Easy quickly realizes that the man in is fact at least part Black, 
and is obviously passing for something else--Italian or Greek, most likely. 
Easy looks away, silently assuring the brother that he's not going to blow 
his cover, cause right or wrong, the man feels he has to hide like that. Easy 
wasn't going to judge him or cause him pain. 

I've often had to fight a kind of knee jerk disgust at people of color who've 
passed for white, or who deny their African roots while embracing the European 
ones. I had a lot of trouble, honestly, with the Torres character on Voyager, 
for example, because she was ashamed of her Klingon heritage. But I've had to 
realize that some people have been raised in times and places where it's simply 
been too hard to be who they were. Maybe they were taking the easy route; maybe 
they were just trying to survive. I guess I shouldn't judge. 



- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf

Re: [scifinoir2] Scientists hope to collect electricity from the air

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
That's really cool, but I don't think we'd want to eliminate lightning 
completely. It does help produce ozone, which in turn protects us from harmful 
radiation from space. When it comes to Nature, one well-intentioned action can 
often have numerous unforeseen negative consequences... 

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:38:51 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Scientists hope to collect electricity from the air 







Scientists hope to collect electricity from the air 



By Ben Coxworth 

21:17 August 25, 2010 





'Hygroelectric' collectors could someday harness atmospheric electricity


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Nikola Tesla once dreamed of being able to harness electricity from the air. 
Now, research being conducted at Brazil’s University of Campinas (UC) is 
indicating that such a scenario may indeed become a reality. Professor Fernando 
Galembeck, a UC chemist, is leading the study into the ways in which 
electricity builds up and spreads in the atmosphere, and how it could be 
collected. “Our research could pave the way for turning electricity from the 
atmosphere into an alternative energy source for the future, he stated. Just 
as solar energy could free some households from paying electric bills, this 
promising new energy source could have a similar effect.” 

Scientists once believed that water droplets in the atmosphere were 
electrically neutral, even after having come into contact with charged dust 
particles. Galembeck and his UC team, however, have shown that this isn’t the 
case. In a lab experiment, they noted that tiny particles of silica and 
aluminum phosphate became negatively and positively charged (respectively) when 
circulated in highly-humid air. “This was clear evidence that water in the 
atmosphere can accumulate electrical charges and transfer them to other 
materials it comes into contact with,” Galembeck explained. “We are calling 
this 'hygroelectricity,' meaning 'humidity electricity'.” 

He now pictures collectors, not unlike solar cells, that could someday collect 
and distribute hygroelectricity from the air. Just as solar cells work best in 
sunny places, his collectors would do best in humid parts of the world. He even 
believes it’s possible that by diminishing the electrical charge in the air, 
his collectors could prevent lightning, especially if mounted on top of tall 
buildings. His team is currently experimenting with different metals, to find 
out which would work best for capturing atmospheric electricity and preventing 
lightning strikes. 

These are fascinating ideas that new studies by ourselves and by other 
scientific teams suggest are now possible, he said. We certainly have a long 
way to go. But the benefits in the long range of harnessing hygroelectricity 
could be substantial. 

A report on Galembeck’s research was presented this week at the 240th National 
Meeting of the American Chemical Society . 


Re: [scifinoir2] Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world land speed record of 307.7mph

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Johnson
That's cool. 
I have a question, though. Is this requirement that a vehicle make two runs, in 
opposite directions within an hour of each other, an American thing? I remember 
reading about how a guy had broken the land speed record in a jet car a few 
years back, but officially wasn't in the record books because his car suffered 
some problems, and he couldn't make the run in the opposite direction within 
the time limit. Made no sense to me because he did make the run once, and 
that's what should matter. I've never gotten this need to do it twice. Even if 
one wanted to think the speed was a fluke, it's real and can't be faked, so why 
not just take the first run and be done with it? 

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Buckeye Bullet 2.5 claims battery electric vehicle world land speed record of 
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The Bullet Buckeye team from Ohio State University has set a world record 
average two-way speed of 307.7mph (495km/h) with its battery electric Venturi 
Buckeye Bullet 2.5. The lithium ion battery powered car eclipsed the previous 
245mph (394km/h) world land speed record for battery electric vehicles set in 
1999 by White Lightning. The new record was set by the Bullet at the Bonneville 
Salt Flats in Utah this week, is pending certification by the Federation 
Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), the worldwide motor sports governing 
body. 

The Bullet was required to make two speed runs, one each in opposite directions 
and within 60 minutes, in order to be considered for the record. While the 
record is officially determined by averaging the speed of the two runs in the 
middle of the 12-mile course, the Bullet exited the flying mile at 320 mph 
(515km/h). 






The team led by Ohio State engineering students had anticipated making further 
tries at besting its time this week but decided to stop after spending all 
night trying to replace the vehicle’s broken clutch; too much torque from the 
motor ripped apart the half-inch steel teeth that connect the motor to the 
gearbox. 

The Bullet 2.5 uses the same body and chassis of the hydrogen fuel cell powered 
Buckeye Bullet 2, and nearly the same electric traction system, but it is 
powered by a 600+ kW A123 Systems lithium-ion battery pack that was designed, 
tested and assembled by the Bullet team and A123 Systems. The team is supported 
by French electric vehicle manufacturer Venturi Automobiles, the company behind 
the Fetish and Volage electric sportscars. 






The Buckeye Bullet 2, powered by hydrogen fuel cells, set an FIA-certified 
world record of 302.877mph (487.4km/h) for the fuel cell class in 2009. While 
the original battery-powered Buckeye Bullet set a national record at 314.9mph 
(506.7km/h) in 2004, however this record did not meet FIA specifications. That 
team did, however, set a certified record of 132.129mph (212.6km/h) in 2007. 

The Buckeye Bullet 2.5 will provide a test platform for systems including an 
all new inverter, control system and batteries to be used in the Buckeye Bullet 
3. 


Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S

2010-08-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Oh, she's a gorgeous lady, one of the prettiest women in Hollywood. I'm just saying she's not curvy or voluptuous by any means, and I've heard some people go on about her great figure. But all I can conclude is that that's based on the modern love for slim-to-thin athletic builds that some champion nowadays.- Original Message -From: "Mr. Worf" hellomahog...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:20:33 AMSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S









  

  
  
  Here's the pic of Fox wearing the tshirt:http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/552/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/87/50/megan-foxa-all-star-party-6.jpg
I have to admit that it looks good on her.On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote:























"On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about 
Megan Fox wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately 
thought "now that's ridiculous!""My skin has just left the building... 

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  I think that Jolie looked better a couple of years back before she lost that last "20lbs." In Salt she looks dangerously underweight.I agree with you on all of the classic ladies. Most of them wore a size 6 or 8 dress. In Hollywood the average is a size 2-4 now. I think currently Jolie is going for size 0. Which is the ultimate.


On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about Megan Fox wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately thought "now that's ridiculous!"


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  No offense to any women here, but ah for the days when beauty in an actress wasn't about being skinny, blonde, and athletic looking. Remember when the (white) actresses in TV and film had actual curves, full lips, and were often brunette stunners? Sophia Loren, Racquel Welch, Liz Taylor, even Marilyn Monroe--all would be considered borderline overweight in the current atmosphere. I heard a lady on an entertainment show today say for the millionth time how breathtakingly beautiful Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Anniston wore, and wax ecstatic about their great figures. I see Anniston as fit but slim, Jolie as dangerously thin, and neither coming close to the standard of beauty of yesteryear. Although when made up, Jolie's feline features indeed are old school...



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Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says

2010-08-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Really? Where are they located? 

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






I think that there is a lot of demons in the closet on this topic that should 
be exercised. 


@Keith, I have family members that are passing for Portuguese. I only saw them 
twice when I was a kid. I wonder have any of them came out of the racial closet 
or not. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
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Not at all a surprise. First, the Jewish thing was always noised about. I often 
joke to my wife, why didn't someone, during any of his mass rallies, look at 
him and say Hey, waitaminute? Didn't he say 'blonde hair and blue eyes? WTF?? 
Secondly, given the centuries of exploration, migration, and conquest, a lot 
more Europeans have African and Asian blood in them than would like to admit. 
They need to do the same DNA tests on J. Edgar Hoover (rumoured to have black 
ancestry) and Babe Ruth (often called disparaging names for a black man by some 
of his white opponents). I've always been fascinated by people who've denied, 
hidden, or simply didn't know about their heritage. For example, former 
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright didn't discover until the last few years 
that she was Jewish. Her family evidently tried to hide that fact, no doubt to 
avoid a lot of problems in American society. I found her surprise surprising, 
as I'd always assumed she was, based on her looks. 

I've long been happy that i'm obviously black, and didn't grow up in a time, 
place, or family where trying to pretend to be something else was either an 
option, a desire, or even a necessity. There's a scene in one of the Easy 
Rollins books--it might be Devil in A Blue Dress--where Easy is staking out a 
hotel lobby. As he's sitting there, he notices a man sitting in a chair, well 
dressed, manicured nails, light olive skin. Idly curious, Easy stares at the 
man for a sec. They make eye contact, and the man literally starts looking 
agitated. Easy quickly realizes that the man in is fact at least part Black, 
and is obviously passing for something else--Italian or Greek, most likely. 
Easy looks away, silently assuring the brother that he's not going to blow 
his cover, cause right or wrong, the man feels he has to hide like that. Easy 
wasn't going to judge him or cause him pain. 

I've often had to fight a kind of knee jerk disgust at people of color who've 
passed for white, or who deny their African roots while embracing the European 
ones. I had a lot of trouble, honestly, with the Torres character on Voyager, 
for example, because she was ashamed of her Klingon heritage. But I've had to 
realize that some people have been raised in times and places where it's simply 
been too hard to be who they were. Maybe they were taking the easy route; maybe 
they were just trying to survive. I guess I shouldn't judge. 



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African Roots, Daily Mail Says 






Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says 

By Steven Fromm - Aug 24, 2010 7:39 AM PT 

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Hitler Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says 

DNA shows Adolf Hitler likely to have had Jewish or African roots, reports 
Daily Mail. Photographer: Keystone/Getty Images 

Adolf Hitler may have been descended from both Jews and Africans, DNA tests are 
indicating, the Daily Mail reported. 

Journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeeren used DNA to trace 39 
of the Nazi leader’s relatives earlier this year, the Daily Mail said. 

The relatives included an Austrian farmer, indentified only as a cousin named 
Norbert H, the Daily Mail reported. 

A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b, or Y-DNA, in the relatives’ saliva 
samples is rare in Germany, as well as Western Europe, the newspaper said. 

It is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, in Algeria, Libya and 
Tunisia as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, Vermeeren said. 

Mulders told Belgian magazine Knack that [o]ne can from this postulate that 
Hitler was related to people whom he despised, the Daily Mail reported. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Before and After visual efx of famous movie scenes

2010-08-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Is it my Comcast mail system, or are several of your posts getting reposted 
every day or so? 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:25:09 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Before and After visual efx of famous movie scenes 






This is a small collection of clips from movies showing how the movie was shot 
and what was done via CGI and colorizing. 


http://www.techxilla.com/2009/11/17/visual-effects-of-your-favorite-movies-in-the-breakdown-mode/
 






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Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S

2010-08-25 Thread Keith Johnson
I don't think that height change is all that widespread yet. But I do know 
there's a noticeable change in the weight of youth, with more getting heavy 
earlier in life. there's also been the recently discussed fact that a lot of 
young girls are developing sooner than before... 

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I think that aesthetic will disappear soon. Most of the youngsters that are in 
their teens right now are close to or above 6ft tall (In this area, possibly 
30-40%) so that tiny little waif look will eventually disappear. 


This brings up the question as to why hasn't anyone looked into the growth 
hormones that are being passed on to everyone. There is no reason whatsoever 
for these kids to be this big across the board. My 4yr old nephew is over 4 
feet tall now. At this rate by the time he is 10 he will be taller than me. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 




Oh, she's a gorgeous lady, one of the prettiest women in Hollywood. I'm just 
saying she's not curvy or voluptuous by any means, and I've heard some people 
go on about her great figure. But all I can conclude is that that's based on 
the modern love for slim-to-thin athletic builds that some champion nowadays. 


- Original Message - 
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:20:33 AM 
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Here's the pic of Fox wearing the tshirt: 
http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/552/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/87/50/megan-foxa-all-star-party-6.jpg
 


I have to admit that it looks good on her. 


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 






On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about Megan Fox 
wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately thought now that's 
ridiculous! 

My skin has just left the building... 





On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








I think that Jolie looked better a couple of years back before she lost that 
last 20lbs. In Salt she looks dangerously underweight. 


I agree with you on all of the classic ladies. Most of them wore a size 6 or 8 
dress. In Hollywood the average is a size 2-4 now. I think currently Jolie is 
going for size 0. Which is the ultimate. 


On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about Megan Fox 
wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately thought now that's 
ridiculous! 







On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









No offense to any women here, but ah for the days when beauty in an actress 
wasn't about being skinny, blonde, and athletic looking. Remember when the 
(white) actresses in TV and film had actual curves, full lips, and were often 
brunette stunners? Sophia Loren, Racquel Welch, Liz Taylor, even Marilyn 
Monroe--all would be considered borderline overweight in the current 
atmosphere. I heard a lady on an entertainment show today say for the millionth 
time how breathtakingly beautiful Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Anniston wore, 
and wax ecstatic about their great figures. I see Anniston as fit but slim, 
Jolie as dangerously thin, and neither coming close to the standard of beauty 
of yesteryear. Although when made up, Jolie's feline features indeed are old 
school... 




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Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS

2010-08-24 Thread Keith Johnson
Agreed. 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:17:05 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






I think that it is mostly hype. Most of the time they are getting the meat from 
the same sources. Others try to pretty up the meat by saying they bought it 
from an organic farm or some other bs. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I hear you! One of the surprising and ironic things going on in food is a turn 
or return to food that many of us ate out of necessity as kids. This is 
especially true of blacks, Southerners, and poor country folk. Things like 
chitlins, pig's feet, hogshead cheese, ox tail, turkey neck, souse meat, etc., 
are showing up in many fancy restaurants. And as you mentioned, they're costing 
a pretty penny. Here in Atlanta there's a return to offal and real meat, a 
kind of pushback against the low cholesterol/fat, no red meat craze. What I 
don't get is why some of these foods does cost so much. When I was a kid, my 
dad used to buy ox tails at the local country market on the cheap. It was one 
reason country black folk bought stuff like that: it was cheap. Now such parts 
cost a bit of money, at least in some restaurants. You can get it fairly 
inexpensively at Jamaican restaurants and the like. I guess the fancy joints 
use better quality of meat? 




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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:58:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






I agree. I think I mentioned the foodie restaurant here that one year the guy 
basically served chittlins, mountain oysters and tripe. For over $100 a plate. 
We had a good laugh on that. I said that for $20 each they could come by the 
house and my mom will cook them up something and they can have 2nds. :) 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I just wonder if any extremely rare ingredients convey a taste sensation that's 
so incredible, or if it's perception. Sometimes food is like art: the value is 
all in what people say it is. 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:30:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






I think if a dish is difficult to create or has extremely rare and expensive 
ingredients then its ok, but I don't really think some of the things that are 
raved about is all that great. It usually comes down to personal pallet and 
subtle differences in flavorings. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Don't know if I have the Cooking Channel but will check. I am *addicted* to all 
things frozen: ice cream, gelatto, sherbert, milk shakes, snow cones, ices, 
etc. I am also convinced that my biochemical makeup has a gene that is a 
perfect match for vanilla, as the mere smell of vanilla is enough to send me 
into fits of divine pleasure. I kept vanilla bean pods in my sugar bucket, keep 
Madagascan vanilla extract in the cupboard (put it in my milk shakes and 
pancake batter). I have at times paid some big money for really high quality 
vanilla products and gourmet ice cream. But I'm not sure I'd pay $19 a scoop 
for ice cream. At some point, I think the price is more a perception of taste 
based on rarity, difficulty in growing, harvesting and shipping the product, 
etc. 


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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:39:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Keith, don't forget the coffee that passes through a Civet. 


Have you checked out the Cooking Channel? It is similar to the Food Network but 
more geared toward cooking and gourmet food. On one of the shows they were 
talking about a gourmet ice cream truck that sells handmade ice cream that 
featured vanilla beans from the left side of a mountain in Italy. $19 a scoop. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I love eating out. And I have to confess, there is a market difference between 
eating at restaurants that use fresh, high quality food rather than, say 
iceberg lettuce from cold storage. It's why you can go to a place and eat a 
smaller meal that consists of high quality food, and yet be more satisfied than 
eating a lot of food that's of lesser quality. 
That being said, there is a limit to how much one needs to pay for the dining 
experience. I saw that ridiculous gold-leaf ice cream sundae on the History 
Channel special on ice cream, and shook my head. You can't tell me that the 
gold or even the high quality vanilla ice cream really makes it tastes hundreds 
of times better than one that can be made at a quality

Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-24 Thread Keith Johnson
Be glad you missed it. I should have known something was wrong when the local 
Atlanta station aired at at 6 or 7 am. I woke up early one Saturday to catch 
it, and was immediately turned off. The same thing was done to that Speed 
Racer 2000 (something like that) which aired several years ago. Strange hour, 
but it was so bad I see why. 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:18:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 






All I remember seeing was a commercial. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Yep. And did you ever see that god awful animated Highlander? It took place in 
the future. I watched maybe one ep and swore off of it forever. 


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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:00:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 






I think that they just spin a wheel with plot points on it and go from there. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I'd forgotten the fourth film, in which Connor and Duncan have to fight a mad 
religious fanatic Immortal who has so many kills--over 600, to the McLeod's 
200+ each--that he's all but unstoppable. It was pretty bad, with only the 
resolution to the problem of this powerful Immortal halfway interesting. I 
won't spoil the ending in case you want to see it. 

As for the last movie, The Source, it was released to TV three years ago. I 
actually killed brain cells watching it, hoping against hope they'd get it 
right. Nope. Here's some critics' thoughts on that last movie: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Source 
Reception 


Critical reaction to Highlander: The Source has been universally negative. 
Christopher Monfette of IGN gave The Source a score of 1 out of 10, saying: 
The worthwhile days of Connor MacLeod , it would appear, are officially 
over—dead, decapitated, and depleted of their power. The struggle for an 
immortal to move through life unchallenged has since mutated into an awkward 
arrangement of mismatched mythologies, TV-to-movie crossovers, and a steady 
stream of low-budget, direct-to-DVD cash-cows which may, in the end, prove to 
be the only truly immortal thing about this series. [ 14 ] 

Brian Orndorf of DVD Talk gave the film one half star out of five, saying:  
The Source is nothing less than a parody of what has come before. If you've 
seen the previous sequels, you already know that's saying something. There is 
some relief that this franchise will finally be put out of its misery, because 
nobody in their right mind would try to keep this series going after watching 
just how boneheaded Highlander: The Source is. [ 15 ] Danél Griffin of Film as 
Art gave The Source one half star out of four, remarking that it's 
bad—cheesily bad, colossally bad, monumentally bad, bad enough to make you 
never want to watch another movie again bad. [ 16 ] Keith Breese of 
FilmCritic.com gave the film one star out of five, saying: Not only will 
Highlander fans be disappointed by the film's nosedive into nonsense, but the 
average viewer will be stunned by the backyard quality of this film. The acting 
is uniformly terrible, the special effects are hideous, the sets are cheap and 
grubby, and the direction is uninspired. The film is an utter failure. ... 
Surely this is the final nail in the coffin lid for this film series. If it 
isn't, then something is truly wrong with the universe. [ 17 ] 

The Sci-Fi Movie Page gave The Source one and a half stars out of five, saying: 
 Just when you think that this is a franchise that can't sink any lower, along 
comes Highlander: The Source . ... One gets the impression that The Source was 
filmed with theatrical distribution in mind but that no sane cinema distributor 
would touch it with a ten-foot barge pole. Good for them. Instead it went 
straight to the SciFi Channel and now the DVD shelves where you should let it 
stay, collecting dust. [ 18 ] 

Noah Antwiller of The Spoony Experiment had this to say about Highlander: The 
Source. The Source is dogshit. I mean weapons-grade dogshit. If your dog shat 
something this nasty, you’d have it put down and buried in a Hefty bag. I 
wasn’t even ready for something this bad. If you thought The Quickening was the 
low-point of the series, well, I don’t even know anymore. This movie punched me 
in the nuts and stole my lunch. I’m still a little dizzy from that one. If it’s 
not worse than Highlander 2, it’s right up there. I mean, second-place by a 
razor-thin margin. I think the only reason The Source isn’t as notorious as 
Highlander 2 is because nobody saw it (it was direct-to-video) and expectations 
for the series were already rock-bottom. I don’t want to say too much but if 
ever a movie shot its way to the top of my review

[scifinoir2] OT: DEA Looking for Ebonics Translators

2010-08-24 Thread Keith Johnson
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/dea-seeks-ebonics-experts-597842.html 



By GREG BLUESTEIN 


The Associated Press 

ATLANTA — Federal agents are seeking to hire Ebonics translators to help 
interpret wiretapped conversations involving targets of undercover drug 
investigations. 

The Drug Enforcement Administration recently sent memos asking companies that 
provide translation services to help it find nine translators in the Southeast 
who are fluent in Ebonics, Special Agent Michael Sanders said Monday. 

Ebonics, which is also known as African American Vernacular English, has been 
described by the psychologist who coined the term as the combination of English 
vocabulary with African language structure. 

Some DEA agents already help translate Ebonics, Sanders said. But he said 
wasn't sure if the agency has ever hired outside Ebonics experts as 
contractors. 

They saw a need for this in a couple of their investigations, he said. And 
when you see a need — it may not be needed now — but we want the contractors to 
provide us with nine people just in case. 

The DEA's decision, first reported by The Smoking Gun, evokes memories of the 
debate sparked in 1996 when the Oakland, Calif., school board suggested that 
black English was a separate language. Although the board later dropped the 
suggestion amid criticism, it set off a national discussion over whether 
Ebonics is a language, a dialect or neither. 

The search for translators covers a wide swath of the Southeast, including 
offices in Atlanta, Washington, New Orleans, Miami and the Caribbean, said 
Sanders. He said he's uncertain why other regions aren't hiring Ebonics 
translators, but said there are ongoing investigations in the Southeast that 
need dedicated Ebonics translators. 

Linguists said Ebonics can be trickier than it seems, partly because the 
vocabulary evolves so quickly. 

A lot of times people think you're just dealing with a few slang words, and 
that you can finesse your way around it, said John Rickford, a Stanford 
University linguistics professor. And it's not — it's a big vocabulary. You'll 
have some significant differences from English. 

Critics worry that the DEA's actions could set a precedent. 

Hiring translators for languages that are of questionable merit to begin with 
is just going in the wrong direction, said Aloysius Hogan, the government 
relations director of English First, a national lobbying group that promotes 
the use of English. 

I'm not aware of Ebonics training schools or tests. I don't know how they'd 
establish that someone speaks Ebonics, he said. I support the concept of 
pursuing drug dealers if they're using code words, but this is definitely going 
in the wrong direction. 

H. Samy Alim, a Stanford linguistics professor who specializes in black 
language and hip-hop culture, said he thought the hiring effort was a joke when 
he first heard about it, but that it highlights a serious issue. 

It seems ironic that schools that are serving and educating black children 
have not recognized the legitimacy of this language. Yet the authorities and 
the police are recognizing that this is a language that they don't understand, 
he said. It really tells us a lot about where we are socially in terms of 
recognizing African-American speech. 

Rickford said that hiring Ebonics experts could come in handy for the DEA, but 
he said it's hard to determine whether a prospective employee can speak it well 
enough to translate since there are no standardized tests. He said the ideal 
candidate would be a native speaker who also has had some linguistics training. 

Finding the right translators could be the difference between a successful 
investigation or a failed one, said Sanders. While he said many listeners can 
get the gist of what Ebonics speakers are saying, it could take an expert to 
define it in court. 

You can maybe get a general idea of what they're saying, but you have to 
understand that this has to hold up in court, he said. You need someone to 
say, 'I know what they mean when they say 'ballin' or 'pinching pennies.' 

(This version CORRECTS Corrects name of DEA to 'Administration' instead of 
'Agency.')

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: DEA Looking for Ebonics Translators

2010-08-24 Thread Keith Johnson
Agreed. I had to check to ensure it was legit. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:02:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: DEA Looking for Ebonics Translators 






Keith... if the link weren't there, I'd be thinking that it's April 1st. 


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/dea-seeks-ebonics-experts-597842.html 



By GREG BLUESTEIN 


The Associated Press 

ATLANTA — Federal agents are seeking to hire Ebonics translators to help 
interpret wiretapped conversations involving targets of undercover drug 
investigations. 

The Drug Enforcement Administration recently sent memos asking companies that 
provide translation services to help it find nine translators in the Southeast 
who are fluent in Ebonics, Special Agent Michael Sanders said Monday. 

Ebonics, which is also known as African American Vernacular English, has been 
described by the psychologist who coined the term as the combination of English 
vocabulary with African language structure. 

Some DEA agents already help translate Ebonics, Sanders said. But he said 
wasn't sure if the agency has ever hired outside Ebonics experts as 
contractors. 

They saw a need for this in a couple of their investigations, he said. And 
when you see a need — it may not be needed now — but we want the contractors to 
provide us with nine people just in case. 

The DEA's decision, first reported by The Smoking Gun, evokes memories of the 
debate sparked in 1996 when the Oakland, Calif., school board suggested that 
black English was a separate language. Although the board later dropped the 
suggestion amid criticism, it set off a national discussion over whether 
Ebonics is a language, a dialect or neither. 

The search for translators covers a wide swath of the Southeast, including 
offices in Atlanta, Washington, New Orleans, Miami and the Caribbean, said 
Sanders. He said he's uncertain why other regions aren't hiring Ebonics 
translators, but said there are ongoing investigations in the Southeast that 
need dedicated Ebonics translators. 

Linguists said Ebonics can be trickier than it seems, partly because the 
vocabulary evolves so quickly. 

A lot of times people think you're just dealing with a few slang words, and 
that you can finesse your way around it, said John Rickford, a Stanford 
University linguistics professor. And it's not — it's a big vocabulary. You'll 
have some significant differences from English. 

Critics worry that the DEA's actions could set a precedent. 

Hiring translators for languages that are of questionable merit to begin with 
is just going in the wrong direction, said Aloysius Hogan, the government 
relations director of English First, a national lobbying group that promotes 
the use of English. 

I'm not aware of Ebonics training schools or tests. I don't know how they'd 
establish that someone speaks Ebonics, he said. I support the concept of 
pursuing drug dealers if they're using code words, but this is definitely going 
in the wrong direction. 

H. Samy Alim, a Stanford linguistics professor who specializes in black 
language and hip-hop culture, said he thought the hiring effort was a joke when 
he first heard about it, but that it highlights a serious issue. 

It seems ironic that schools that are serving and educating black children 
have not recognized the legitimacy of this language. Yet the authorities and 
the police are recognizing that this is a language that they don't understand, 
he said. It really tells us a lot about where we are socially in terms of 
recognizing African-American speech. 

Rickford said that hiring Ebonics experts could come in handy for the DEA, but 
he said it's hard to determine whether a prospective employee can speak it well 
enough to translate since there are no standardized tests. He said the ideal 
candidate would be a native speaker who also has had some linguistics training. 

Finding the right translators could be the difference between a successful 
investigation or a failed one, said Sanders. While he said many listeners can 
get the gist of what Ebonics speakers are saying, it could take an expert to 
define it in court. 

You can maybe get a general idea of what they're saying, but you have to 
understand that this has to hold up in court, he said. You need someone to 
say, 'I know what they mean when they say 'ballin' or 'pinching pennies.' 

(This version CORRECTS Corrects name of DEA to 'Administration' instead of 
'Agency.') 



-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S

2010-08-24 Thread Keith Johnson
yeah, Jolie looks anorexic. I'm constantly amazed at how many people I've heard 
talk about Meagan Fox's great body. She's built like a boy to my mind. I know 
things had gone too far when reading a fashion mag of my wife's about three 
years ago. There was an article about Scarlett Johannson. The author--who was a 
man--spoke of how pretty she was, and talked of her Old Hollywood figure, 
which he said was very curvy. I forget the exact language used, but the guy 
tempered the compliment by suggesting Johannson was just this side of being 
zaftig, if not slightly overweight. I was stunned. To me, she's got curves, 
isn't close to being heavy, and has a way more sensual body than, say, Jolie, 
Paris Hilton, Aniston, etc. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:13:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S 






I think that Jolie looked better a couple of years back before she lost that 
last 20lbs. In Salt she looks dangerously underweight. 


I agree with you on all of the classic ladies. Most of them wore a size 6 or 8 
dress. In Hollywood the average is a size 2-4 now. I think currently Jolie is 
going for size 0. Which is the ultimate. 


On a side note, I was walking by the tv and they were talking about Megan Fox 
wearing her 8 year old stepbrother's tshirt. I immediately thought now that's 
ridiculous! 






On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









No offense to any women here, but ah for the days when beauty in an actress 
wasn't about being skinny, blonde, and athletic looking. Remember when the 
(white) actresses in TV and film had actual curves, full lips, and were often 
brunette stunners? Sophia Loren, Racquel Welch, Liz Taylor, even Marilyn 
Monroe--all would be considered borderline overweight in the current 
atmosphere. I heard a lady on an entertainment show today say for the millionth 
time how breathtakingly beautiful Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Anniston wore, 
and wax ecstatic about their great figures. I see Anniston as fit but slim, 
Jolie as dangerously thin, and neither coming close to the standard of beauty 
of yesteryear. Although when made up, Jolie's feline features indeed are old 
school... 




- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:28:37 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S 






























































































































-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 








-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 





Re: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest Movies Ever Made

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson

I can't *believe* they added relatively new movies like Clash of the Titans 
and Cloverfield, while leaving off some true, time tested classics! To wit, 
my additions below. 

And I beg you, please go to the included links and watch the brief trailers. 
You will *not* be disappointed!: 

* Night of the Lepus - 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xulXFB3-A3cfeature=related - You have ** to 
check out the carnivorous, giant bunny rabbits menacing veteran actors Janet 
Leigh, Stuart Whitman, Rory Calhoun, and DeForest Kelley! If you don't laugh 
when the rabbit punches through the lady's kitchen window and then slashes her 
throat, leaving its giant teeth covered in blood, you don't have a pulse! 


* The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myvltniwzxI Anyone over 40 has to remember this 
really awful movie about an experiment in which a psycho killer's head is 
grafted onto the giant body of a gentle simpleton. The killer gets off on 
murder, while the big gentle giants sobs No, No! all the time. Like all such 
classic horror movies, it manages to mix murder and mayhem with nubile women in 
various stages of undress. It is priceless! Check out the trailer, please: 

Runner up: the copycat The Thing with Two Heads ( 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHNA_j7h5Afeature=related ), starring football 
great Rosie Grier, Don Mission Impossible Martin, and veteran actor Ray 
Milland! In this one, the head of a white bigot is grafted onto the body of a 
black convict. Again, the trailer's a scream! 

* The Food of the Gods - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSwwZ1n6KU - people 
are trapped on an island where the animals have grown to ginormous size thanks 
to eating some kind of special food. I'm not sure if the giant menacing 
chickens, the killer big wasps or the crazy giant rats surrounding a house is 
the funniest thing, but man what a hoot! And it's so sad to see veteran actors' 
having to do films like this. Film great Ida Lupino is one of the stars. 


* The Deadly Mantis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEccYXxaAY - freed from 
the ice, a giant, supersonic mantis menaces the world, attacking airplanes, 
overturning buses with its killer grip, and generally wreaking havoc. Lots of 
women grabbing their heads and screaming in mindless terror, of course, but 
really fun for the Italian sailor who yells Mama mia! as the killer insect 
sweeps in for the kill! 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:31:47 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest Movies 
Ever Made 






Though Tremors was cheesy goodness... 

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/08/cheesiest-sci-fi-films/ 

-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 



Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
I love eating out. And I have to confess, there is a market difference between 
eating at restaurants that use fresh, high quality food rather than, say 
iceberg lettuce from cold storage. It's why you can go to a place and eat a 
smaller meal that consists of high quality food, and yet be more satisfied than 
eating a lot of food that's of lesser quality. 
That being said, there is a limit to how much one needs to pay for the dining 
experience. I saw that ridiculous gold-leaf ice cream sundae on the History 
Channel special on ice cream, and shook my head. You can't tell me that the 
gold or even the high quality vanilla ice cream really makes it tastes hundreds 
of times better than one that can be made at a quality ice cream joint. I'm 
surprised they left off Bird's Nest Soup, made by boiling the nests of 
cliff-dwelling birds who excrete a glue-like saliva to build their nests, or 
that soup that the Japanese sell that's made from passing saki through some 
animals digestive system, then boiling and consuming the excreted liquid. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:07:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Well, there is always the $15 a cup tea. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Way above the price range of a Poor Black Welshman, that is. And I'm glad I 
gave up coffee, or that last would've done the trick for me. 


On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 






[ Attachment(s) from Mr. Worf included below] 




-- Forwarded message -- 
From: Missy May  missy.may...@gmail.com  
Date: Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:23 AM 
Subject: [BSBB] EXPENSIVE FOODS 
To: brownsugars_bodacious_b...@yahoogroups.com 















White Truffle 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

Not surprising, the white truffle is the world's most expensive mushroom. Found 
in the Piedmont region of Northern Italy, the white truffle's price is due to 
it's relative rarity. These truffles are generally sold for anywhere between 
$1,350 and $2,700 per kilogram. The record price paid for this delicacy, 
however, was $330,000 for 1.5 kilograms worth. 

Essen Platinum Club Sandwich 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

The world's most expensive sandwich is the Essen Platinum Club Sandwich. It is 
a triple-decker sandwich, containing the finest grade chicken, ham, hard-boiled 
quails' eggs and white truffles. This sandwich contains almost 2,000 calories 
and is the world's most expensive, selling for a hefty price of almost $200. 

Steak and Mushroom Pie 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

Based on the traditional steak and mushroom pie that is so popular in England, 
this dish contains $1,000 worth of Wagyu beef, $3,330 worth of Matsutake 
mushrooms, two bottles of Chateau Mouton Rothschild priced at $4,200 each, 
black truffles and edible gold leaf. The whole pie serves 8 people and costs 
around $15,900. A single slice costs $1,990, but is also served with a glass of 
champagne. 

Le Parker Meridien Omelet 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

The most expensive omelet in the world is sold at Le Parker Meridien restaurant 
in New York City. It contains 10 ounces of Sevruga caviar, six eggs, and an 
entire lobster. If you order it in the restaurant, it costs $1,000. To make it 
yourself at home, the ingredients will only run you $700. 

Serendipity 3 Sundae 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

One of the most expensive desserts in the world is a sundae sold at Serendipity 
3, located on the east side of Manhattan. Listed in the Guinness Book of World 
Records as the world's most expensive dessert, it consists of five scoops of 
Tahitian vanilla bean ice cream, Madagascar vanilla, 23 karat edible gold leaf, 
and the world's most expensive chocolate, the Amedei Porceleana. To order this 
rich dessert, it will cost you over $1,000. Kona Nigari Water 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

The most expensive water in the world is Kona Nigari water. This desalinated, 
high-mineral water comes from the deep waters off the coast of Hawaii and costs 
$16.75 per ounce. Wray and Nephew White Overproof Rum 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

This rum is the highest-selling because of it's rarity as well as it's high 
proof. Bottled in 1940, there are only 4 bottles left in the world, each priced 
at around $53,000. 

Tieguanyin 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

A rare Chinese green tea, Tieguanyin costs $3,000 per kilo (2 lbs, 3 oz) and 
approximately $15 for a single cup. 

Kopi Luwak 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

You can't have a discussion of the world's most expensive foods without 
mentioning Kopi Luwak. Originating from Sumatra, Kopi Luwak is created from 
coffee beans that have passed through the digestive track of the Asian Palm 
Civet. The civets eat the coffee berries and the undigested beans pass through 
their system. 

Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
My wife and I have both been suffering from horrible summer colds, so we've 
been in the house for over a week. This Saturday night, desperately unable to 
sleep, but too sick to do anything else, I turned the tube to Miss 
Congeniality 2. I knew it couldn't be as funny as the original--which has 
enough one-liners and fun that I still love it--but man, was I surprised at how 
bad it was! I think I laughed exactly twice in the whole thing. My wife, who 
generally is more forgiving of comedies like this, turned to me and said That 
was horrible! I'm so glad we didn't pay to see it. It was indeed so bad that, 
had one seen it first, one would have thought that Bullock and Regina King were 
completely devoid of any comedic talent. I know it's an inescapable fact of 
Hollywood, but they really do need to realize that often you can't bottle 
lightning twice, and you just have to forego making a crappy sequel. .That's 
especially true when some of the people instrumental in making the first movie 
don't return. In this one, for example, Michael Cain was a hoot as Bullock's 
advisor in the first film. His character was obviously gay, but that wasn't the 
angle played up. In this one she gets a younger guy as her advisor, and he 
plays up the gay thing to the point of distraction. The movie even ends up in a 
drag club where this dude dresses up like a woman--for no reason other than it 
fulfilled a lifelong dream of his! With such awful stereotypes, bad writing, 
and no originality anywhere to be seen, it perfectly exemplifies the point of 
the article you posted. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:05:53 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 
























There is always one problem with popular/successful movies: the threat of 
sequels. Sequels have the power to really get movie fans’ blood boiling because 
unless they are better or as good as the original then they will only crash and 
burn, and potentially tarnish the credibility of the film it tried so hard to 
follow. There are quite a few painfully bad sequels out there but in this 
article I have selected ten of the all-time stinkers. I’m sure you’ll agree 
with most or will have several others worth contributing. 1. Batman and Robin 






Image source - snarkerati 

Filled with cheesy one-liners, bad acting, ridiculous storyline and even more 
ridiculous costumes this terrible sequel very nearly killed the franchise until 
a certain Christopher Nolan rescued it. George Clooney as Batman simply didn’t 
work. Luckily for him he managed to continue his career and has gone on to 
become one of the leading men of Hollywood, unlike Chris O’Donnell who was 
playing Russian Roulette as Robin. And who can forget Arnold Schwarzenegger as 
the lovable Mr Freeze… 2. Blues Brothers 2000 






Image source - stuff 

This film shamefully has one of the lowest audience rankings of movie sequels. 
Dan Aykroyd has made some brilliant movies in his career, including the 
original Blues Brothers film with the late John Belushi. This one though was a 
bad choice. John Goodman could have ruined his career by appearing in this film 
but thankfully for him The Big Lebowski was also released later that year so 
all was forgiven for his performance in that. 3. Legally Blonde 2 






Image source - totalfilm 

After the surprising success of the first Legally Blonde film (it made $141 
million at the box office) a sequel was always going to happen. Not only was 
the storyline pretty weak but the timing of the film’s release was worse. In 
the movie thousands of people march against animal testing and succeed, but in 
reality thousands of people were marching in protest against the invasion of 
Iraq and being ignored. D’oh! 4. Grease 2 






Image source - unemployment.matters 

We all know that Grease is one of the most famous musicals of all time and 
remains a cult favourite to this day. The film was so successful that it took a 
whopping $394 million at the box office! So why would they decide to go and 
spoil it all with this dreadful sequel? First of all it was directed by the 
original movie’s choreographer (not a promising start), secondly the songs were 
just plain awful, and thirdly the leading actors (Michelle Pfeiffer and Maxwell 
Caulfield) had nowhere near enough chemistry that the fans expected after the 
original’s John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. 5. Speed 2 






Image source - denofgeek 

The sequel was doomed after Keanu Reeves didn’t agree to sign up for it, yet 
they continued to make it with Jason Patric instead. Speed 2 lacked any form of 
originality like the first film had. Pretty much the same storyline but this 
time set on a cruise ship rather than a bus…nothing to really get excited 
about. 6. Jaws: The Revenge 






Image source - omenaheights 

The third instalment in the Jaws films earned the lowest amount of money in 

Re: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest Movies Ever Made

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Dude, I remember Lepus from when I was a kid, and even then it didn't scare 
me, but boy was it fun! I mean, you see these bunnies running (hopping?) in 
slow motion to make them appear more menacing, and obvious bad FX are used to 
make them appear to be giants. But at least sometimes those bunnies are *real*. 
When the giant dummy rabbits attack people and slash them with the teeth, it is 
camp heaven! Let's not forget other animals gone wild movies from back in the 
day, such as Frogs, Bugs, and Kingdom of the Spiders starring The Shat 
himself. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:36:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest 
Movies Ever Made 






As I said in the forum where I first found this link, it's another case of the 
kids being left alone in the room with Internet access again. No true research 
done, just names off the tops of their widdle heads. 

And I laughed just *reading* that synopsis of the scene from Night of the 
Lepus, Keith. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 










I can't *believe* they added relatively new movies like Clash of the Titans 
and Cloverfield, while leaving off some true, time tested classics! To wit, 
my additions below. 

And I beg you, please go to the included links and watch the brief trailers. 
You will *not* be disappointed!: 

* Night of the Lepus - 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xulXFB3-A3cfeature=related - You have ** to 
check out the carnivorous, giant bunny rabbits menacing veteran actors Janet 
Leigh, Stuart Whitman, Rory Calhoun, and DeForest Kelley! If you don't laugh 
when the rabbit punches through the lady's kitchen window and then slashes her 
throat, leaving its giant teeth covered in blood, you don't have a pulse! 


* The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myvltniwzxI Anyone over 40 has to remember this 
really awful movie about an experiment in which a psycho killer's head is 
grafted onto the giant body of a gentle simpleton. The killer gets off on 
murder, while the big gentle giants sobs No, No! all the time. Like all such 
classic horror movies, it manages to mix murder and mayhem with nubile women in 
various stages of undress. It is priceless! Check out the trailer, please: 

Runner up: the copycat The Thing with Two Heads ( 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHNA_j7h5Afeature=related ), starring football 
great Rosie Grier, Don Mission Impossible Martin, and veteran actor Ray 
Milland! In this one, the head of a white bigot is grafted onto the body of a 
black convict. Again, the trailer's a scream! 

* The Food of the Gods - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSwwZ1n6KU - people 
are trapped on an island where the animals have grown to ginormous size thanks 
to eating some kind of special food. I'm not sure if the giant menacing 
chickens, the killer big wasps or the crazy giant rats surrounding a house is 
the funniest thing, but man what a hoot! And it's so sad to see veteran actors' 
having to do films like this. Film great Ida Lupino is one of the stars. 


* The Deadly Mantis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEccYXxaAY - freed from 
the ice, a giant, supersonic mantis menaces the world, attacking airplanes, 
overturning buses with its killer grip, and generally wreaking havoc. Lots of 
women grabbing their heads and screaming in mindless terror, of course, but 
really fun for the Italian sailor who yells Mama mia! as the killer insect 
sweeps in for the kill! 





- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:31:47 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest Movies 
Ever Made 






Though Tremors was cheesy goodness... 

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/08/cheesiest-sci-fi-films/ 

-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Don't know if I have the Cooking Channel but will check. I am *addicted* to all 
things frozen: ice cream, gelatto, sherbert, milk shakes, snow cones, ices, 
etc. I am also convinced that my biochemical makeup has a gene that is a 
perfect match for vanilla, as the mere smell of vanilla is enough to send me 
into fits of divine pleasure. I kept vanilla bean pods in my sugar bucket, keep 
Madagascan vanilla extract in the cupboard (put it in my milk shakes and 
pancake batter). I have at times paid some big money for really high quality 
vanilla products and gourmet ice cream. But I'm not sure I'd pay $19 a scoop 
for ice cream. At some point, I think the price is more a perception of taste 
based on rarity, difficulty in growing, harvesting and shipping the product, 
etc. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:39:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Keith, don't forget the coffee that passes through a Civet. 


Have you checked out the Cooking Channel? It is similar to the Food Network but 
more geared toward cooking and gourmet food. On one of the shows they were 
talking about a gourmet ice cream truck that sells handmade ice cream that 
featured vanilla beans from the left side of a mountain in Italy. $19 a scoop. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I love eating out. And I have to confess, there is a market difference between 
eating at restaurants that use fresh, high quality food rather than, say 
iceberg lettuce from cold storage. It's why you can go to a place and eat a 
smaller meal that consists of high quality food, and yet be more satisfied than 
eating a lot of food that's of lesser quality. 
That being said, there is a limit to how much one needs to pay for the dining 
experience. I saw that ridiculous gold-leaf ice cream sundae on the History 
Channel special on ice cream, and shook my head. You can't tell me that the 
gold or even the high quality vanilla ice cream really makes it tastes hundreds 
of times better than one that can be made at a quality ice cream joint. I'm 
surprised they left off Bird's Nest Soup, made by boiling the nests of 
cliff-dwelling birds who excrete a glue-like saliva to build their nests, or 
that soup that the Japanese sell that's made from passing saki through some 
animals digestive system, then boiling and consuming the excreted liquid. 




- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:07:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Well, there is always the $15 a cup tea. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Way above the price range of a Poor Black Welshman, that is. And I'm glad I 
gave up coffee, or that last would've done the trick for me. 


On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 






[ Attachment(s) from Mr. Worf included below] 




-- Forwarded message -- 
From: Missy May  missy.may...@gmail.com  
Date: Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:23 AM 
Subject: [BSBB] EXPENSIVE FOODS 
To: brownsugars_bodacious_b...@yahoogroups.com 















White Truffle 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

Not surprising, the white truffle is the world's most expensive mushroom. Found 
in the Piedmont region of Northern Italy, the white truffle's price is due to 
it's relative rarity. These truffles are generally sold for anywhere between 
$1,350 and $2,700 per kilogram. The record price paid for this delicacy, 
however, was $330,000 for 1.5 kilograms worth. 

Essen Platinum Club Sandwich 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

The world's most expensive sandwich is the Essen Platinum Club Sandwich. It is 
a triple-decker sandwich, containing the finest grade chicken, ham, hard-boiled 
quails' eggs and white truffles. This sandwich contains almost 2,000 calories 
and is the world's most expensive, selling for a hefty price of almost $200. 

Steak and Mushroom Pie 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

Based on the traditional steak and mushroom pie that is so popular in England, 
this dish contains $1,000 worth of Wagyu beef, $3,330 worth of Matsutake 
mushrooms, two bottles of Chateau Mouton Rothschild priced at $4,200 each, 
black truffles and edible gold leaf. The whole pie serves 8 people and costs 
around $15,900. A single slice costs $1,990, but is also served with a glass of 
champagne. 

Le Parker Meridien Omelet 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

The most expensive omelet in the world is sold at Le Parker Meridien restaurant 
in New York City. It contains 10 ounces of Sevruga caviar, six eggs, and an 
entire lobster. If you order it in the restaurant, it costs $1,000. To make it 
yourself at home, the ingredients will only run you $700. 

Serendipity 3 Sundae 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

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Re: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
No offense to any women here, but ah for the days when beauty in an actress 
wasn't about being skinny, blonde, and athletic looking. Remember when the 
(white) actresses in TV and film had actual curves, full lips, and were often 
brunette stunners? Sophia Loren, Racquel Welch, Liz Taylor, even Marilyn 
Monroe--all would be considered borderline overweight in the current 
atmosphere. I heard a lady on an entertainment show today say for the millionth 
time how breathtakingly beautiful Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Anniston wore, 
and wax ecstatic about their great figures. I see Anniston as fit but slim, 
Jolie as dangerously thin, and neither coming close to the standard of beauty 
of yesteryear. Although when made up, Jolie's feline features indeed are old 
school... 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:28:37 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] CLASSIC MOVIE ILLUSTRATIONS FROM THE 60S 






























































































































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[scifinoir2] Info about Recalled Eggs

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Go to this site for information on all brands of eggs affected, and how to read 
the codes on egg cartons to see if the eggs in your fridge are affected: 

http://www.fda.gov/Food/NewsEvents/WhatsNewinFood/ucm223536.htm 

[AP News] 



Two large Iowa farms have recalled 550 million eggs because of possible 
contamination with salmonella. Investigators from the Food and Drug 
Administration are trying to find the cause of the outbreak, but so far haven't 
pinpointed the source. 




Q: A half-billion — isn't that a lot of eggs? 

A: Well, yes and no. Those 550 million eggs might seem like a lot. But that's 
less than 1 percent of the roughly 80 billion eggs sold in their shell each 
year, according to the United Egg Producers, an industry group. Americans 
consume about 220 million eggs a day, based on industry estimates. 

Q: Is the outbreak likely to spread? 

A: There's no sign at this point that there are more than the two farms 
involved, Food and Drug Administration chief Margaret Hamburg said Monday. The 
recalls started earlier this month when Iowa's Wright County Egg recalled a 
total of 380 million eggs after some cases of salmonella poisoning were traced 
back to eggs from its farms. Then last Friday, a second Iowa farm, Hillandale 
Farms, announced the recall of more than 170 million eggs after tests confirmed 
salmonella. 

Q: Did the eggs get sent to my state? 

A: The eggs went to stores or distributors in mostly western or midwestern 
states, and were shipped nationwide under a variety of brand names. Recalled 
eggs have a specific plant number and packaged date on the carton; check the 
FDA website to see if your eggs have been recalled: http://bit.ly/9yambn 

Q: How far back does the recall go? 

A: Eggs included in the recall were packaged as far back as four months ago, so 
it's likely that many of the eggs have already been eaten. If you have any 
suspect cartons, return them to the store or throw them out. 

The Wright County Egg recall extends back to May 15; the Hillandale recall goes 
back to April 9. 

Q: How many people have actually gotten sick? 

A: No one knows for sure. Officials say it could be as many as 1,300 so far. 
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention saw a spike in illnesses from a 
specific strain of salmonella in May. 

Through the end of July, there were about 2,000 cases — that's about 1,300 more 
than would be expected for that three-month period. That's where the 1,300 
figure comes from, although some of the excess cases may not be tied to this 
outbreak. 

The number is likely to grow since it can take weeks for reports to be filed. 

Q: Has anyone died in this outbreak? 

A: No deaths have been reported. The most common symptoms of salmonella are 
diarrhea, abdominal cramps and fever within eight hours to 72 hours of eating a 
contaminated product. It can be life-threatening, especially to those with 
weakened immune systems. 

Salmonella is the most common form of food poisoning from bacteria, and the 
strain involved in the outbreak is the most common kind, accounting for about 
20 percent of all such food poisonings. 

Q: Are the eggs sold at my grocery store safe? 

A: Recalled eggs should have been removed from store shelves. But you can check 
the FDA website http://bit.ly/9yambn for the brands involved and double-check 
the egg carton. 

Q: Can you tell by looking at the shell or egg if there's salmonella? 

A: No, there's no way to tell. But consumers shouldn't buy dirty or cracked 
eggs. 

Q: Then should I just skip eggs to be safe? 

A: As long as they're not on the recall list, eggs should be OK. And thoroughly 
cooking them can kill the bacteria. But while federal investigators continue 
their work, the FDA's Hamburg said consumers should strictly avoid runny egg 
yolks for mopping up with toast. 

Q: How do eggs get infected with salmonella? 

A: Salmonella bacteria can get on the outside of the shell from fecal matter. 
Or it can be inside the egg if the chicken is infected. Eggs are washed and 
disinfected to deal with the dirt and germs on shells, and some producers 
vaccinate chicks against salmonella. 

Infected hens, rodents or tainted feed could be the source of the outbreaks, 
according to Patrick McDonough, a food safety expert at Cornell University in 
Ithaca, N.Y. Salmonella is not passed from hen to hen, but usually from rodent 
droppings to chickens, he said. 

The two Iowa farms share suppliers of young chickens and feed. On Monday, an 
FDA official said the hatchery that supplies the farms has been certified 
salmonella-free. That suggests that the contamination may have occurred at the 
farms. 

___ 


Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest Movies Ever Made

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Agree on the last two, which is why I questioned the more modern films on here. 
Was Cloverfield a good movie in your opinion? I avoided it at the theatre 
because I knew the jerky camera would have had me reeling and retching in my 
seat. 

- Original Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:56:11 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest 
Movies Ever Made 






Cloverfield doesn't even belong on this list. There's nothing remotely cheesy 
about it. Tremors and Slither are campy, horror comedies but no cheese was in 
sight. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Dude, I remember Lepus from when I was a kid, and even then it didn't scare 
 me, but boy was it fun! I mean, you see these bunnies running (hopping?) in 
 slow motion to make them appear more menacing, and obvious bad FX are used to 
 make them appear to be giants. But at least sometimes those bunnies are 
 *real*. When the giant dummy rabbits attack people and slash them with the 
 teeth, it is camp heaven! Let's not forget other animals gone wild movies 
 from back in the day, such as Frogs, Bugs, and Kingdom of the Spiders 
 starring The Shat himself. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:36:56 PM 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest 
 Movies Ever Made 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 As I said in the forum where I first found this link, it's another case of 
 the kids being left alone in the room with Internet access again. No true 
 research done, just names off the tops of their widdle heads. 
 
 And I laughed just *reading* that synopsis of the scene from Night of the 
 Lepus, Keith. 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I can't *believe* they added relatively new movies like Clash of the Titans 
 and Cloverfield, while leaving off some true, time tested classics! To wit, 
 my additions below. 
 
 And I beg you, please go to the included links and watch the brief trailers. 
 You will *not* be disappointed!: 
 
 * Night of the Lepus - 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xulXFB3-A3cfeature=related - You have ** to 
 check out the carnivorous, giant bunny rabbits menacing veteran actors Janet 
 Leigh, Stuart Whitman, Rory Calhoun, and DeForest Kelley! If you don't laugh 
 when the rabbit punches through the lady's kitchen window and then slashes 
 her throat, leaving its giant teeth covered in blood, you don't have a pulse! 
 
 
 * The Incredible Two-Headed Transplant. 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myvltniwzxI Anyone over 40 has to remember 
 this really awful movie about an experiment in which a psycho killer's head 
 is grafted onto the giant body of a gentle simpleton. The killer gets off on 
 murder, while the big gentle giants sobs No, No! all the time. Like all 
 such classic horror movies, it manages to mix murder and mayhem with nubile 
 women in various stages of undress. It is priceless! Check out the trailer, 
 please: 
 
 Runner up: the copycat The Thing with Two Heads ( 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHNA_j7h5Afeature=related ), starring 
 football great Rosie Grier, Don Mission Impossible Martin, and veteran 
 actor Ray Milland! In this one, the head of a white bigot is grafted onto the 
 body of a black convict. Again, the trailer's a scream! 
 
 * The Food of the Gods - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSwwZ1n6KU - people 
 are trapped on an island where the animals have grown to ginormous size 
 thanks to eating some kind of special food. I'm not sure if the giant 
 menacing chickens, the killer big wasps or the crazy giant rats surrounding a 
 house is the funniest thing, but man what a hoot! And it's so sad to see 
 veteran actors' having to do films like this. Film great Ida Lupino is one of 
 the stars. 
 
 
 * The Deadly Mantis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEccYXxaAY - freed from 
 the ice, a giant, supersonic mantis menaces the world, attacking airplanes, 
 overturning buses with its killer grip, and generally wreaking havoc. Lots of 
 women grabbing their heads and screaming in mindless terror, of course, but 
 really fun for the Italian sailor who yells Mama mia! as the killer insect 
 sweeps in for the kill! 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@...  
 To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 6:31:47 AM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Pirahna 3D's Painful Predecessors: 24 Cheesiest Movies 
 Ever Made 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Though Tremors was cheesy goodness... 
 
 http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/08/cheesiest-sci-fi-films/ 
 
 -- 
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 If all

Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
I just wonder if any extremely rare ingredients convey a taste sensation that's 
so incredible, or if it's perception. Sometimes food is like art: the value is 
all in what people say it is. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:30:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






I think if a dish is difficult to create or has extremely rare and expensive 
ingredients then its ok, but I don't really think some of the things that are 
raved about is all that great. It usually comes down to personal pallet and 
subtle differences in flavorings. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Don't know if I have the Cooking Channel but will check. I am *addicted* to all 
things frozen: ice cream, gelatto, sherbert, milk shakes, snow cones, ices, 
etc. I am also convinced that my biochemical makeup has a gene that is a 
perfect match for vanilla, as the mere smell of vanilla is enough to send me 
into fits of divine pleasure. I kept vanilla bean pods in my sugar bucket, keep 
Madagascan vanilla extract in the cupboard (put it in my milk shakes and 
pancake batter). I have at times paid some big money for really high quality 
vanilla products and gourmet ice cream. But I'm not sure I'd pay $19 a scoop 
for ice cream. At some point, I think the price is more a perception of taste 
based on rarity, difficulty in growing, harvesting and shipping the product, 
etc. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:39:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Keith, don't forget the coffee that passes through a Civet. 


Have you checked out the Cooking Channel? It is similar to the Food Network but 
more geared toward cooking and gourmet food. On one of the shows they were 
talking about a gourmet ice cream truck that sells handmade ice cream that 
featured vanilla beans from the left side of a mountain in Italy. $19 a scoop. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I love eating out. And I have to confess, there is a market difference between 
eating at restaurants that use fresh, high quality food rather than, say 
iceberg lettuce from cold storage. It's why you can go to a place and eat a 
smaller meal that consists of high quality food, and yet be more satisfied than 
eating a lot of food that's of lesser quality. 
That being said, there is a limit to how much one needs to pay for the dining 
experience. I saw that ridiculous gold-leaf ice cream sundae on the History 
Channel special on ice cream, and shook my head. You can't tell me that the 
gold or even the high quality vanilla ice cream really makes it tastes hundreds 
of times better than one that can be made at a quality ice cream joint. I'm 
surprised they left off Bird's Nest Soup, made by boiling the nests of 
cliff-dwelling birds who excrete a glue-like saliva to build their nests, or 
that soup that the Japanese sell that's made from passing saki through some 
animals digestive system, then boiling and consuming the excreted liquid. 




- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:07:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Well, there is always the $15 a cup tea. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





Way above the price range of a Poor Black Welshman, that is. And I'm glad I 
gave up coffee, or that last would've done the trick for me. 


On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 






[ Attachment(s) from Mr. Worf included below] 




-- Forwarded message -- 
From: Missy May  missy.may...@gmail.com  
Date: Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:23 AM 
Subject: [BSBB] EXPENSIVE FOODS 
To: brownsugars_bodacious_b...@yahoogroups.com 















White Truffle 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

Not surprising, the white truffle is the world's most expensive mushroom. Found 
in the Piedmont region of Northern Italy, the white truffle's price is due to 
it's relative rarity. These truffles are generally sold for anywhere between 
$1,350 and $2,700 per kilogram. The record price paid for this delicacy, 
however, was $330,000 for 1.5 kilograms worth. 

Essen Platinum Club Sandwich 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

The world's most expensive sandwich is the Essen Platinum Club Sandwich. It is 
a triple-decker sandwich, containing the finest grade chicken, ham, hard-boiled 
quails' eggs and white truffles. This sandwich contains almost 2,000 calories 
and is the world's most expensive, selling for a hefty price of almost $200. 

Steak and Mushroom Pie 

The World's Most Expensive Foods

Based on the traditional steak and mushroom pie that is so popular

Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Are the Highlander and Hellraiser sequels cheesy, or just plain awful? 
There's a fine line between so bad it stinks, and so bad it's a camp classic. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:02:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 






You forgot Highlander 3-5 and Hellraiser 3-6 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Adrianne Brennan  adrianne.bren...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 





They missed Ghostbusters 2, Highlander 2, and the Matrix sequels. 

~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 























There is always one problem with popular/successful movies: the threat of 
sequels. Sequels have the power to really get movie fans’ blood boiling because 
unless they are better or as good as the original then they will only crash and 
burn, and potentially tarnish the credibility of the film it tried so hard to 
follow. There are quite a few painfully bad sequels out there but in this 
article I have selected ten of the all-time stinkers. I’m sure you’ll agree 
with most or will have several others worth contributing. 1. Batman and Robin 






Image source - snarkerati 

Filled with cheesy one-liners, bad acting, ridiculous storyline and even more 
ridiculous costumes this terrible sequel very nearly killed the franchise until 
a certain Christopher Nolan rescued it. George Clooney as Batman simply didn’t 
work. Luckily for him he managed to continue his career and has gone on to 
become one of the leading men of Hollywood, unlike Chris O’Donnell who was 
playing Russian Roulette as Robin. And who can forget Arnold Schwarzenegger as 
the lovable Mr Freeze… 2. Blues Brothers 2000 






Image source - stuff 

This film shamefully has one of the lowest audience rankings of movie sequels. 
Dan Aykroyd has made some brilliant movies in his career, including the 
original Blues Brothers film with the late John Belushi. This one though was a 
bad choice. John Goodman could have ruined his career by appearing in this film 
but thankfully for him The Big Lebowski was also released later that year so 
all was forgiven for his performance in that. 3. Legally Blonde 2 






Image source - totalfilm 

After the surprising success of the first Legally Blonde film (it made $141 
million at the box office) a sequel was always going to happen. Not only was 
the storyline pretty weak but the timing of the film’s release was worse. In 
the movie thousands of people march against animal testing and succeed, but in 
reality thousands of people were marching in protest against the invasion of 
Iraq and being ignored. D’oh! 4. Grease 2 






Image source - unemployment.matters 

We all know that Grease is one of the most famous musicals of all time and 
remains a cult favourite to this day. The film was so successful that it took a 
whopping $394 million at the box office! So why would they decide to go and 
spoil it all with this dreadful sequel? First of all it was directed by the 
original movie’s choreographer (not a promising start), secondly the songs were 
just plain awful, and thirdly the leading actors (Michelle Pfeiffer and Maxwell 
Caulfield) had nowhere near enough chemistry that the fans expected after the 
original’s John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. 5. Speed 2 






Image source - denofgeek 

The sequel was doomed after Keanu Reeves didn’t agree to sign up for it, yet 
they continued to make it with Jason Patric instead. Speed 2 lacked any form of 
originality like the first film had. Pretty much the same storyline but this 
time set on a cruise ship rather than a bus…nothing to really get excited 
about. 6. Jaws: The Revenge 






Image source - omenaheights 

The third instalment in the Jaws films earned the lowest amount of money in the 
franchise. It grossed $50 million, which when you compare to the $470 million 
made by the original can clearly see that something went horribly wrong. 
Michael Caine must still be suffering nightmares for agreeing to appear in this 
rather than accept his Oscar for Hannah and Her Sisters . 7. Dirty Dancing: 
Havana Nights 






Image source - allmoviephoto 

The storyline for the original Dirty Dancing film was such a hit, why bother 
changing it for the sequel? The only changed in the sequel was the fact that it 
was set in Cuba the night before the revolution took place. Unsurprisingly the 
film flopped big time. The only thing you have to admire about the film is how 
the makers managed to persuade the original’s star, Patrick Swayze, to 

Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Sure. You never saw The Source, the awful TV movie starring Adrian Paul, 
released a year or two ago? It was really awful. they killed off a couple of 
cool characters, put up all this foolishness about the Source of Immortality, 
and gave us a truly horrendous ending. 

- Original Message - 
From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:03:35 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 






There was a Highlander after the third movie? O holy hell. 

~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 





You forgot Highlander 3-5 and Hellraiser 3-6 





On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Adrianne Brennan  adrianne.bren...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 





They missed Ghostbusters 2, Highlander 2, and the Matrix sequels. 

~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 























There is always one problem with popular/successful movies: the threat of 
sequels. Sequels have the power to really get movie fans’ blood boiling because 
unless they are better or as good as the original then they will only crash and 
burn, and potentially tarnish the credibility of the film it tried so hard to 
follow. There are quite a few painfully bad sequels out there but in this 
article I have selected ten of the all-time stinkers. I’m sure you’ll agree 
with most or will have several others worth contributing. 1. Batman and Robin 






Image source - snarkerati 

Filled with cheesy one-liners, bad acting, ridiculous storyline and even more 
ridiculous costumes this terrible sequel very nearly killed the franchise until 
a certain Christopher Nolan rescued it. George Clooney as Batman simply didn’t 
work. Luckily for him he managed to continue his career and has gone on to 
become one of the leading men of Hollywood, unlike Chris O’Donnell who was 
playing Russian Roulette as Robin. And who can forget Arnold Schwarzenegger as 
the lovable Mr Freeze… 2. Blues Brothers 2000 






Image source - stuff 

This film shamefully has one of the lowest audience rankings of movie sequels. 
Dan Aykroyd has made some brilliant movies in his career, including the 
original Blues Brothers film with the late John Belushi. This one though was a 
bad choice. John Goodman could have ruined his career by appearing in this film 
but thankfully for him The Big Lebowski was also released later that year so 
all was forgiven for his performance in that. 3. Legally Blonde 2 






Image source - totalfilm 

After the surprising success of the first Legally Blonde film (it made $141 
million at the box office) a sequel was always going to happen. Not only was 
the storyline pretty weak but the timing of the film’s release was worse. In 
the movie thousands of people march against animal testing and succeed, but in 
reality thousands of people were marching in protest against the invasion of 
Iraq and being ignored. D’oh! 4. Grease 2 






Image source - unemployment.matters 

We all know that Grease is one of the most famous musicals of all time and 
remains a cult favourite to this day. The film was so successful that it took a 
whopping $394 million at the box office! So why would they decide to go and 
spoil it all with this dreadful sequel? First of all it was directed by the 
original movie’s choreographer (not a promising start), secondly the songs were 
just plain awful, and thirdly the leading actors (Michelle Pfeiffer and Maxwell 
Caulfield) had nowhere near enough chemistry that the fans expected after the 
original’s John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. 5. Speed 2 






Image source - denofgeek 

The sequel was doomed after Keanu Reeves didn’t agree to sign up for it, yet 
they continued to make it with Jason Patric instead. Speed 2 lacked any form of 
originality like the first film had. Pretty much the same storyline but this 
time set on a cruise ship rather than a bus…nothing to really get excited 
about. 6. Jaws: The Revenge 






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The third instalment in the Jaws films earned the lowest amount of money in the 
franchise. It grossed $50 million, which when you compare to the $470 million 
made by the 

Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
I'd forgotten the fourth film, in which Connor and Duncan have to fight a mad 
religious fanatic Immortal who has so many kills--over 600, to the McLeod's 
200+ each--that he's all but unstoppable. It was pretty bad, with only the 
resolution to the problem of this powerful Immortal halfway interesting. I 
won't spoil the ending in case you want to see it. 

As for the last movie, The Source, it was released to TV three years ago. I 
actually killed brain cells watching it, hoping against hope they'd get it 
right. Nope. Here's some critics' thoughts on that last movie: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Source 
Reception 


Critical reaction to Highlander: The Source has been universally negative. 
Christopher Monfette of IGN gave The Source a score of 1 out of 10, saying: 
The worthwhile days of Connor MacLeod , it would appear, are officially 
over—dead, decapitated, and depleted of their power. The struggle for an 
immortal to move through life unchallenged has since mutated into an awkward 
arrangement of mismatched mythologies, TV-to-movie crossovers, and a steady 
stream of low-budget, direct-to-DVD cash-cows which may, in the end, prove to 
be the only truly immortal thing about this series. [ 14 ] 

Brian Orndorf of DVD Talk gave the film one half star out of five, saying:  
The Source is nothing less than a parody of what has come before. If you've 
seen the previous sequels, you already know that's saying something. There is 
some relief that this franchise will finally be put out of its misery, because 
nobody in their right mind would try to keep this series going after watching 
just how boneheaded Highlander: The Source is. [ 15 ] Danél Griffin of Film as 
Art gave The Source one half star out of four, remarking that it's 
bad—cheesily bad, colossally bad, monumentally bad, bad enough to make you 
never want to watch another movie again bad. [ 16 ] Keith Breese of 
FilmCritic.com gave the film one star out of five, saying: Not only will 
Highlander fans be disappointed by the film's nosedive into nonsense, but the 
average viewer will be stunned by the backyard quality of this film. The acting 
is uniformly terrible, the special effects are hideous, the sets are cheap and 
grubby, and the direction is uninspired. The film is an utter failure. ... 
Surely this is the final nail in the coffin lid for this film series. If it 
isn't, then something is truly wrong with the universe. [ 17 ] 

The Sci-Fi Movie Page gave The Source one and a half stars out of five, saying: 
 Just when you think that this is a franchise that can't sink any lower, along 
comes Highlander: The Source . ... One gets the impression that The Source was 
filmed with theatrical distribution in mind but that no sane cinema distributor 
would touch it with a ten-foot barge pole. Good for them. Instead it went 
straight to the SciFi Channel and now the DVD shelves where you should let it 
stay, collecting dust. [ 18 ] 

Noah Antwiller of The Spoony Experiment had this to say about Highlander: The 
Source. The Source is dogshit. I mean weapons-grade dogshit. If your dog shat 
something this nasty, you’d have it put down and buried in a Hefty bag. I 
wasn’t even ready for something this bad. If you thought The Quickening was the 
low-point of the series, well, I don’t even know anymore. This movie punched me 
in the nuts and stole my lunch. I’m still a little dizzy from that one. If it’s 
not worse than Highlander 2, it’s right up there. I mean, second-place by a 
razor-thin margin. I think the only reason The Source isn’t as notorious as 
Highlander 2 is because nobody saw it (it was direct-to-video) and expectations 
for the series were already rock-bottom. I don’t want to say too much but if 
ever a movie shot its way to the top of my review stack, it was this one. This 
short commentary on The Source came days after Antwiler did a two-part video 
review of Highlander II: The Quickening . 







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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:51:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 







Sure. You never saw The Source, the awful TV movie starring Adrian Paul, 
released a year or two ago? It was really awful. they killed off a couple of 
cool characters, put up all this foolishness about the Source of Immortality, 
and gave us a truly horrendous ending. 

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There was a Highlander after the third movie? O holy hell. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
The weird thing is there's a kind of division between those who follow the 
films, and those who follow the TV series. I think I saw the TV series first, 
then caught the first film--the only good one--afterward. The TV series was 
really well done, with a couple of exceptions. It had great actors, cool 
Immortals, intelligent writing for the most part, some memorable arcs, and a 
great lead in Adrian Paul's Duncan McLeod. I'm a bigger fan of the TV series, 
and am not that concerned about the film series ever being rebooted. 

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They stink. They aren't bad enough to be camp. Maybe in another 20 years? Or 
after the reboot is released. 


I think the 4th and 5th just didn't make any sense. There was no continuity 
between the story lines. One of the movies McCloud was an alien. Another he 
teams up with another immortal to fight a baddie. Its just endless garbage, but 
I guess if you are a diehard fan you would love it. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Are the Highlander and Hellraiser sequels cheesy, or just plain awful? 
There's a fine line between so bad it stinks, and so bad it's a camp classic. 


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You forgot Highlander 3-5 and Hellraiser 3-6 


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 wrote: 





They missed Ghostbusters 2, Highlander 2, and the Matrix sequels. 

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There is always one problem with popular/successful movies: the threat of 
sequels. Sequels have the power to really get movie fans’ blood boiling because 
unless they are better or as good as the original then they will only crash and 
burn, and potentially tarnish the credibility of the film it tried so hard to 
follow. There are quite a few painfully bad sequels out there but in this 
article I have selected ten of the all-time stinkers. I’m sure you’ll agree 
with most or will have several others worth contributing. 1. Batman and Robin 






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Filled with cheesy one-liners, bad acting, ridiculous storyline and even more 
ridiculous costumes this terrible sequel very nearly killed the franchise until 
a certain Christopher Nolan rescued it. George Clooney as Batman simply didn’t 
work. Luckily for him he managed to continue his career and has gone on to 
become one of the leading men of Hollywood, unlike Chris O’Donnell who was 
playing Russian Roulette as Robin. And who can forget Arnold Schwarzenegger as 
the lovable Mr Freeze… 2. Blues Brothers 2000 






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This film shamefully has one of the lowest audience rankings of movie sequels. 
Dan Aykroyd has made some brilliant movies in his career, including the 
original Blues Brothers film with the late John Belushi. This one though was a 
bad choice. John Goodman could have ruined his career by appearing in this film 
but thankfully for him The Big Lebowski was also released later that year so 
all was forgiven for his performance in that. 3. Legally Blonde 2 






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After the surprising success of the first Legally Blonde film (it made $141 
million at the box office) a sequel was always going to happen. Not only was 
the storyline pretty weak but the timing of the film’s release was worse. In 
the movie thousands of people march against animal testing and succeed, but in 
reality thousands of people were marching in protest against the invasion of 
Iraq and being ignored. D’oh! 4. Grease 2 






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We all know that Grease is one of the most famous musicals of all time and 
remains a cult favourite to this day. The film was so successful that it took a 
whopping $394 million at the box office! So why would they decide to go and 
spoil it all with this dreadful sequel? First of all it was directed by the 
original movie’s choreographer (not a promising start), secondly the songs were 
just plain awful, and thirdly the leading actors (Michelle Pfeiffer and Maxwell 
Caulfield) had nowhere near enough chemistry that the fans expected after the 
original’s John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. 5. Speed 2 






Image

Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
I hear you! One of the surprising and ironic things going on in food is a turn 
or return to food that many of us ate out of necessity as kids. This is 
especially true of blacks, Southerners, and poor country folk. Things like 
chitlins, pig's feet, hogshead cheese, ox tail, turkey neck, souse meat, etc., 
are showing up in many fancy restaurants. And as you mentioned, they're costing 
a pretty penny. Here in Atlanta there's a return to offal and real meat, a 
kind of pushback against the low cholesterol/fat, no red meat craze. What I 
don't get is why some of these foods does cost so much. When I was a kid, my 
dad used to buy ox tails at the local country market on the cheap. It was one 
reason country black folk bought stuff like that: it was cheap. Now such parts 
cost a bit of money, at least in some restaurants. You can get it fairly 
inexpensively at Jamaican restaurants and the like. I guess the fancy joints 
use better quality of meat? 



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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:58:49 AM 
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I agree. I think I mentioned the foodie restaurant here that one year the guy 
basically served chittlins, mountain oysters and tripe. For over $100 a plate. 
We had a good laugh on that. I said that for $20 each they could come by the 
house and my mom will cook them up something and they can have 2nds. :) 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I just wonder if any extremely rare ingredients convey a taste sensation that's 
so incredible, or if it's perception. Sometimes food is like art: the value is 
all in what people say it is. 


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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:30:16 PM 
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I think if a dish is difficult to create or has extremely rare and expensive 
ingredients then its ok, but I don't really think some of the things that are 
raved about is all that great. It usually comes down to personal pallet and 
subtle differences in flavorings. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Don't know if I have the Cooking Channel but will check. I am *addicted* to all 
things frozen: ice cream, gelatto, sherbert, milk shakes, snow cones, ices, 
etc. I am also convinced that my biochemical makeup has a gene that is a 
perfect match for vanilla, as the mere smell of vanilla is enough to send me 
into fits of divine pleasure. I kept vanilla bean pods in my sugar bucket, keep 
Madagascan vanilla extract in the cupboard (put it in my milk shakes and 
pancake batter). I have at times paid some big money for really high quality 
vanilla products and gourmet ice cream. But I'm not sure I'd pay $19 a scoop 
for ice cream. At some point, I think the price is more a perception of taste 
based on rarity, difficulty in growing, harvesting and shipping the product, 
etc. 


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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:39:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXPENSIVE FOODS 






Keith, don't forget the coffee that passes through a Civet. 


Have you checked out the Cooking Channel? It is similar to the Food Network but 
more geared toward cooking and gourmet food. On one of the shows they were 
talking about a gourmet ice cream truck that sells handmade ice cream that 
featured vanilla beans from the left side of a mountain in Italy. $19 a scoop. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I love eating out. And I have to confess, there is a market difference between 
eating at restaurants that use fresh, high quality food rather than, say 
iceberg lettuce from cold storage. It's why you can go to a place and eat a 
smaller meal that consists of high quality food, and yet be more satisfied than 
eating a lot of food that's of lesser quality. 
That being said, there is a limit to how much one needs to pay for the dining 
experience. I saw that ridiculous gold-leaf ice cream sundae on the History 
Channel special on ice cream, and shook my head. You can't tell me that the 
gold or even the high quality vanilla ice cream really makes it tastes hundreds 
of times better than one that can be made at a quality ice cream joint. I'm 
surprised they left off Bird's Nest Soup, made by boiling the nests of 
cliff-dwelling birds who excrete a glue-like saliva to build their nests, or 
that soup that the Japanese sell that's made from passing saki through some 
animals digestive system, then boiling and consuming the excreted liquid. 




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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2

Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS

2010-08-23 Thread Keith Johnson
Yep. And did you ever see that god awful animated Highlander? It took place in 
the future. I watched maybe one ep and swore off of it forever. 

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I think that they just spin a wheel with plot points on it and go from there. 


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I'd forgotten the fourth film, in which Connor and Duncan have to fight a mad 
religious fanatic Immortal who has so many kills--over 600, to the McLeod's 
200+ each--that he's all but unstoppable. It was pretty bad, with only the 
resolution to the problem of this powerful Immortal halfway interesting. I 
won't spoil the ending in case you want to see it. 

As for the last movie, The Source, it was released to TV three years ago. I 
actually killed brain cells watching it, hoping against hope they'd get it 
right. Nope. Here's some critics' thoughts on that last movie: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Source 
Reception 


Critical reaction to Highlander: The Source has been universally negative. 
Christopher Monfette of IGN gave The Source a score of 1 out of 10, saying: 
The worthwhile days of Connor MacLeod , it would appear, are officially 
over—dead, decapitated, and depleted of their power. The struggle for an 
immortal to move through life unchallenged has since mutated into an awkward 
arrangement of mismatched mythologies, TV-to-movie crossovers, and a steady 
stream of low-budget, direct-to-DVD cash-cows which may, in the end, prove to 
be the only truly immortal thing about this series. [ 14 ] 

Brian Orndorf of DVD Talk gave the film one half star out of five, saying:  
The Source is nothing less than a parody of what has come before. If you've 
seen the previous sequels, you already know that's saying something. There is 
some relief that this franchise will finally be put out of its misery, because 
nobody in their right mind would try to keep this series going after watching 
just how boneheaded Highlander: The Source is. [ 15 ] Danél Griffin of Film as 
Art gave The Source one half star out of four, remarking that it's 
bad—cheesily bad, colossally bad, monumentally bad, bad enough to make you 
never want to watch another movie again bad. [ 16 ] Keith Breese of 
FilmCritic.com gave the film one star out of five, saying: Not only will 
Highlander fans be disappointed by the film's nosedive into nonsense, but the 
average viewer will be stunned by the backyard quality of this film. The acting 
is uniformly terrible, the special effects are hideous, the sets are cheap and 
grubby, and the direction is uninspired. The film is an utter failure. ... 
Surely this is the final nail in the coffin lid for this film series. If it 
isn't, then something is truly wrong with the universe. [ 17 ] 

The Sci-Fi Movie Page gave The Source one and a half stars out of five, saying: 
 Just when you think that this is a franchise that can't sink any lower, along 
comes Highlander: The Source . ... One gets the impression that The Source was 
filmed with theatrical distribution in mind but that no sane cinema distributor 
would touch it with a ten-foot barge pole. Good for them. Instead it went 
straight to the SciFi Channel and now the DVD shelves where you should let it 
stay, collecting dust. [ 18 ] 

Noah Antwiller of The Spoony Experiment had this to say about Highlander: The 
Source. The Source is dogshit. I mean weapons-grade dogshit. If your dog shat 
something this nasty, you’d have it put down and buried in a Hefty bag. I 
wasn’t even ready for something this bad. If you thought The Quickening was the 
low-point of the series, well, I don’t even know anymore. This movie punched me 
in the nuts and stole my lunch. I’m still a little dizzy from that one. If it’s 
not worse than Highlander 2, it’s right up there. I mean, second-place by a 
razor-thin margin. I think the only reason The Source isn’t as notorious as 
Highlander 2 is because nobody saw it (it was direct-to-video) and expectations 
for the series were already rock-bottom. I don’t want to say too much but if 
ever a movie shot its way to the top of my review stack, it was this one. This 
short commentary on The Source came days after Antwiler did a two-part video 
review of Highlander II: The Quickening . 








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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:51:40 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WORST MOVIE SEQUELS 







Sure. You never saw The Source, the awful TV movie starring Adrian Paul, 
released a year or two ago? It was really awful. they killed off a couple of 
cool characters, put up all this foolishness about the Source of Immortality, 
and gave us a truly horrendous ending. 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Clone Wars Great Fun on Cartoon Network

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
I agree. I was skeptical of the current CGI version, both because I'm not a 
super fan of CGI (overdone, often average, pushing out traditional animation), 
and because I was afraid it'd be too juvenile in tone. Tartokovsky's 2D 
animated version set the bar very high as well. But the current program gets 
better with every season, and seems to be getting more mature in tone as well. 
Like I said: surgery on infants, attempts to kill them when the gig was up? 
Unexpected. 

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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:27:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Clone Wars Great Fun on Cartoon Network 






I love the animated series. I don't think of them as being related to the 
movies at all even though they are the same characters. The series is very 
consistent in the level of action and good writing. Its a joy to watch. 


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






speaking of all our conversations about how the Star Wars movies lost quality 
over time, do you watch The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network? Tonight, nursing a 
summer cold and listening to major rainstorms, I sat down and watched a 
two-part ep tonight, and I must say I was impressed! The story centered around 
a bounty hunter named Cad Bane, who has stolen information about several Force 
sensitive children. At the future Emperor's behest, Bane sets off to kidnap the 
children. Darth Siddious then would have the children operated on to force 
their premature growth in the Force, and use them as a type of living remote 
sensing spies bound to his will. 

This was one exciting hour. The action was non-stop, there were lots of good 
battles, both in space and hand-to-hand, and even the acting was good. The 
voice actor behind Bane was suitably menacing, as were the others. And the way 
the subject matter was handled was pretty surprising for a kid friendly show. 
When the robot Siddious orders to operate on one of the children points out 
that the child might not survive, he replies, In that case I still lose 
nothing. Later, with the Jedi on the way, he orders the entire hideout 
destroyed, fully intending to kill the kidnapped infants as well. 

The music, action, acting, writing, and vivid colors on display all combined to 
make this a really fun hour. I can honestly say that The Clone Wars is in the 
main far superiour to the vast bulk of all the recent Star Wars movies. I could 
honestly watch this series on DVD, coupled with Gendy Tartokovsky's animated 
Clone Wars, and never watch the three prequel movies again, and be very, very 
satisfied. 






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Re: [scifinoir2] Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Who's the heavyset Batman in the WWII shot? Why is Captain American walking 
blithely with Nazi's? Shouldn't he be throwing his shield at them? 

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Subject: [scifinoir2] Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime 






Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, but Cap was an idealistic, true blue American even before he gained his 
abilities. Nothing about Hitler's fascist party, its racism, and its obvious 
lust for power would have allowed him to treat with Nazis even before we went 
to war with them. After all, many other leaders like Winston Churchill were 
leery of Hitler early in the game too. 

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I was thinking about that one too. The US was pro-Hitler until he started 
invading his neighbors. I also think Darth Vader would have been a Nazi. 


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I like these. But the first one -- I'd think that Cap would, at the very least, 
be on the other side of the chicken wire with the British POWs, if not beating 
the crap out of the Germans. 





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Re: [scifinoir2] Galactic Supervolcano Erupts From Black Hole

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Actually, Martin, is this related to, or exactly the same as, the very well 
known phenomenon where the collapsing disk of gas around a black hole produces 
super energetic jets of energy? The jets that are the cause of what we used to 
call quasars? It seems to be the source of the volcano they mention. In other 
black holes with such jets--or in the aftermath of supernovas for that 
matter--there is evidence of the violent outward push of the jets or solar 
winds forcing local gas and dust away from the source. 
The difference here seems to be this new factoid about gas cooling and 
falling toward the center of the galaxy to form stars, but being thwarted by 
the jets. On the flipside, though, I thought that what often happens to gas 
that's pushed away from such a source, is that the shockwaves actually help 
start star formation as they force compression and aggregation of gas particles 
along the path of the outward force. 

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Subject: [scifinoir2] Galactic Supervolcano Erupts From Black Hole 






As a physicist, this is news to me... 

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/galactic-volcano 

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wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Android Phones Can Substitute for Supercomputers

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Remember when people used to talk about distributed computing, allowing home 
PC's, for example, to be networked together by an agency or university to do 
things such as predict weather patterns or search for extrasolar life? That 
never really took off. I know there are many scientific/educational entities 
out there to which one can give permission to use his computer in such a 
network, but almost no one I know has done it. The main way our PC's nowadays 
participate in such group activities is when they've been hacked and some 
miscreant in Russia or something uses our computers to help send out DOS 
attacks or produce more malware to steal peoples' personal info. 
The potential of cell phones' increasing smartness to join a distributed 
network could be staggering, if such a thing were used for good purposes--and 
willingly. But think of the mischief people could wreak if they managed to 
start hacking those phones on the level they do with PCs nowadays. 
Kinda reminds me of the system Lucius Fox created for Bruce Wayne in The Dark 
Knight, where he turned all the cellphones in Gotham into a giant surveillance 
net--a thing he immediately wanted Bruce to stop using. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:26:11 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Android Phones Can Substitute for Supercomputers 






This, I'll believe ten seconds after I see it... 

= 

Android Phones Can Substitute for Supercomputers 



• By Priya Ganapati Email Author
• August 20, 2010 | 
• 1:56 pm | 
• Categories: RD and Inventions 
• 





There’s an app for almost everything. Now add one that can run calculations 
from a supercomputer on a Nexus One phone in real time and without the need for 
internet connectivity. 

Researchers at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Texas Advanced 
Computing Center have created an Android app that can take simulations from the 
powerful Ranger supercomputer and solve them further on the mobile phone. 

“The idea of using a phone is to show we can take a device with one chip and 
low power to compute a solution so it comes as close to the one solved on a 
supercomputer,” John Peterson, a research associate at the Texas Advanced 
Computing Center, told Wired.com. 
Read More 
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/supercomputing-app-android/#ixzz0xHnCVsrE
 


-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Right, I'm just saying there's no way Steve Rogers would have been friendly 
with Nazis, no matter what the public perception and party line was. He was the 
type of person who'd never have trusted Hitler, who was racist and fanatical 
from the start. Rogers was ahead of most whites in his time, not being a racist 
at all. One reason Americans looked the other way concerning Hitler was because 
many frankly shared at least a kernel of his anti-Semitic views. 
Also, as for Cap being friendly with Nazis, remember that the whole impetus of 
the Super Soldier program was that elements within the government and military 
feared Fascism greatly, and knew there was a storm coming. Cap was created to 
be the first of an army that they were going to use to fight in what they knew 
was a coming war. So again, given that, Cap wouldn't ever have been this 
friendly with such high level Nazis. Maybe undercover posing as a German-which 
he did often, having done a lot of espionage work before we entered the 
War--but that's it. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:42:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime 






Churchill was because he knew better, but that didn't stop Hitler from being on 
the cover of Time magazine and praised by Americans. 


The artist is a bit off on all of this stuff. 


On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Yeah, but Cap was an idealistic, true blue American even before he gained his 
abilities. Nothing about Hitler's fascist party, its racism, and its obvious 
lust for power would have allowed him to treat with Nazis even before we went 
to war with them. After all, many other leaders like Winston Churchill were 
leery of Hitler early in the game too. 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 6:52:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Superimposed Superheroes During Wartime 






I was thinking about that one too. The US was pro-Hitler until he started 
invading his neighbors. I also think Darth Vader would have been a Nazi. 


On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





I like these. But the first one -- I'd think that Cap would, at the very least, 
be on the other side of the chicken wire with the British POWs, if not beating 
the crap out of the Germans. 





On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








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-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






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Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 









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Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 





Re: [scifinoir2] Galactic Supervolcano Erupts From Black Hole

2010-08-21 Thread Keith Johnson
I don't think so, if my supposition that this is a update of info on an already 
well known phenomenon is true. I don't think this volcanic energy is anything 
that's in the realm of Hawking's theories, but caused by processes that obey 
standard scientific principles. I don't think in this case, as with Hawking, 
we're talking about anything falling into the black hole, being obliterated, or 
even energy coming from an unknown source. 
At least, that's my thought: the articles I've found don't explain the source 
of the energy at all; hence my assumption it's the standard type produced by 
the compression of matter in the accretion disk. 
- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:44:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Galactic Supervolcano Erupts From Black Hole 






Does this mean that Hawkings is correct again and string theory is wrong? 


On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
wrote: 





As a physicist, this is news to me... 

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/galactic-volcano 

-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust

2010-08-20 Thread Keith Johnson
i do agree the saddest think is the demise of small, indie bookstores. None of 
the chains come close to replicating their comfortable feel, or personable 
staff. 

- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 3:32:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust 








I for one love my Kindle and Ipad. 
I wont cry any tears beacuse of Barnes  Noble demise because they directly or 
indirectly killed of the Black independent book store to include Karibu Books 
hin the DC area. 




From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 2:37:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust 





Agreed, there's a difference in the experiences. I guess for younger folks, the 
tactile experience is the button pushing and scrolling, which is as familiar to 
them as page turning and caressing the spine of a book is to us. I guess when 
those kids' children and grandchildren are reading, then those then-parents 
will complain about how you can enjoy reading a book when the comforting 
feeling of a keypad is replaced with swiping at holoimages in empty air. 


- Original Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:35:19 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust 






I miss that as well. 

I can't do the e-book thing. Comic books work for me in that format but I love 
the experience of holding and reading a printed book. The Kindle, Nook, I-pad, 
etc. can't seem to replicate it for me. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: 
 
 I admit to missing that as well, Charles, sitting around and chatting. 
 Didn't get to do it often, with the demands of work, though. 
 
 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles  
 char...@... wrote: 
 
  
  
  I made the comment to my wife a couple weeks ago that I'd be screwed if we 
  had any sort of apocalypse (or lengthy power outage for that matter). After 
  three moves in one year (and another one coming up in a few weeks), we got 
  tired of lugging around dozens of boxes of books from state to state. After 
  the last move, I donated more than a 1000 books to the local library, and 
  replaced most of them with ebooks. I carry my library around in my pocket 
  now, which is great… but when the battery dies, it really sucks. 
  
  I have mixed feelings about Barnes  Noble. I was a regular at Oxford 
  Books in Atlanta for many years, met my wife there, got married in the 
  coffee shop. Not long after BN opened up in Buckhead, Oxford started 
  careening toward bankruptcy, due to a combination of bad management, too 
  much debt, and sudden intense competition from a national chain. BN killed 
  off many many independent bookstores, and now ironically is being killed 
  off 
  by virtual competition. Not entirely sure how I feel about that, because 
  I'd give a lot to be able to sit in the coffee shop at Oxford again 
  chatting 
  with the other regulars late into the night. 
  
  From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... 
  Reply-To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
  Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:16:31 -0400 
  To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Barnes and Noble bites the dust 
  
  
  
  My hunch is that BN never really embraced the Internet or e-books, tied 
  as it was to the old-fashioned world of physical books and stores. 
  
  Personally, rave, I think that just might be why I like BN so much. I'm 
  not big on e-books at all (I picked up a batch over the past few weeks, 
  only 
  because it was the only way I could get the books, as they're unavailable 
  in 
  print. E-books, for all the marvel they are, are dependent on tech to be 
  viewable. If you've got a problem with your Kindle or iPhone or computer, 
  you're SOL. Books don't break down, even when they fall apart. 
  
  On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110381/clearance-sale-barnes-noble-didnt-evolve-enough?mod=career-leadership
   
  
  How did Barnes  Noble (NYSE: BKS - News) fall so far so fast? 
  
  The giant bookstore chain, whose superstores once struck fear into the 
  hearts of independent booksellers everywhere, put itself up for sale this 
  month, rendering it the corporate equivalent of the remaindered books it 
  sells at a discount. 
  
  The company said it made the move because its shares are undervalued, but 
  to me there was an air of desperation about it. 
  
  The simple explanation for Barnes  Noble's decline is the Internet, which 
  spawned Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN - News), e-readers and digital books. But 
  that didn't have to be the end for BN, which had a dominant market 
  position 
  and should have out-Amazoned Amazon, leveraging its

Re: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 loses half million viewers

2010-08-20 Thread Keith Johnson
I've tried to watch Hawthorne, but it never captured my interest. Something 
about it seems too dour or downbeat for my tastes. It also would be nice to see 
some more brothers in lead--even romantic--roles, but that's not my main 
reason. 

As for Warehouse 13, I wouldn't worry too much about one week's numbers. The 
bigger issue will be to see how it trends for the whole of its run. I don't 
know if the crossover between Hawthorne and it would be that significant, so 
I doubt that show stole many people away. Don't know about Melissa and Joey. 
Were there other shows on at that time that could have siphoned away an 
audience that will simply catch one of the many reruns, or just watch online? 
For example, I find myself often in conflict when there are great shows on like 
The Universe, Pawn Stars, and other good historical, scientific, or 
documentary shows. Many times I have simply skipped the premieres of new eps of 
Warehouse 13, Haven, and even Eureka because I know they'll be rerun a million 
times. In fact, I rarely watch the Warehouse on first airing for that reason. 
Other shows I do like that include Royal Pains, Memphis Beat, Covert 
Affairs, and White Collar. I often skip those shows' new eps in favor of 
science shows whose reruns are less frequent or postioned much later in the 
night. Maybe something like that happened? 



- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:16:33 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 loses half million viewers 






http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/08/18/more-tuesday-cable-warehouse-13-drops-teen-mom-hawthorne-get-bigger-more/60355
 

Warehouse 13 was down 450,000 viewers on Tuesday. Did those viewers defect to 
Hawthorne (up 500,000 viewers) or Melissa and Joey which premiered with 
2.145 million viewers? 

~rave? 




Re: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 loses half million viewers

2010-08-20 Thread Keith Johnson
It's the way nowadays. For example, if you count how many times Royal Pains and 
Burn Notice are re-aired in a week, it's hard to avoid them. Since I love both 
shows, I often watch an ep two or even three times in a week, especially Burn 
Notice now that the brother who'd joined the team is uncovering how Michael was 
using him. But no, shows like Top Gear, regular network shows that don't get 
re-aired, science programs that air at 9 pm, then inexplicably get reruns 
pushed to 1 or 2 am--I'll often choose them over something like Eureka, which 
I can catch on the rebound. Indeed, since most SyFy shows are rerun the very 
same night, just a couple of hours later, I often elect to watch them at that 
time as I'm retiring for the night. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 12:59:30 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 loses half million viewers 






Strong possibility, Keith. Myself tonight, I'm passing on the new ep of 
Eureka at nine for a new ep of Top Gear. (Sacrilege, yes, I'm aware of 
that. But I am tuning in for the 11:00 airing.) 


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









I've tried to watch Hawthorne, but it never captured my interest. Something 
about it seems too dour or downbeat for my tastes. It also would be nice to see 
some more brothers in lead--even romantic--roles, but that's not my main 
reason. 

As for Warehouse 13, I wouldn't worry too much about one week's numbers. The 
bigger issue will be to see how it trends for the whole of its run. I don't 
know if the crossover between Hawthorne and it would be that significant, so 
I doubt that show stole many people away. Don't know about Melissa and Joey. 
Were there other shows on at that time that could have siphoned away an 
audience that will simply catch one of the many reruns, or just watch online? 
For example, I find myself often in conflict when there are great shows on like 
The Universe, Pawn Stars, and other good historical, scientific, or 
documentary shows. Many times I have simply skipped the premieres of new eps of 
Warehouse 13, Haven, and even Eureka because I know they'll be rerun a million 
times. In fact, I rarely watch the Warehouse on first airing for that reason. 
Other shows I do like that include Royal Pains, Memphis Beat, Covert 
Affairs, and White Collar. I often skip those shows' new eps in favor of 
science shows whose reruns are less frequent or postioned much later in the 
night. Maybe something like that happened? 



- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:16:33 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 loses half million viewers 






http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/08/18/more-tuesday-cable-warehouse-13-drops-teen-mom-hawthorne-get-bigger-more/60355
 

Warehouse 13 was down 450,000 viewers on Tuesday. Did those viewers defect to 
Hawthorne (up 500,000 viewers) or Melissa and Joey which premiered with 
2.145 million viewers? 

~rave? 






-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





[scifinoir2] Clone Wars Great Fun on Cartoon Network

2010-08-20 Thread Keith Johnson
speaking of all our conversations about how the Star Wars movies lost quality 
over time, do you watch The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network? Tonight, nursing a 
summer cold and listening to major rainstorms, I sat down and watched a 
two-part ep tonight, and I must say I was impressed! The story centered around 
a bounty hunter named Cad Bane, who has stolen information about several Force 
sensitive children. At the future Emperor's behest, Bane sets off to kidnap the 
children. Darth Siddious then would have the children operated on to force 
their premature growth in the Force, and use them as a type of living remote 
sensing spies bound to his will. 

This was one exciting hour. The action was non-stop, there were lots of good 
battles, both in space and hand-to-hand, and even the acting was good. The 
voice actor behind Bane was suitably menacing, as were the others. And the way 
the subject matter was handled was pretty surprising for a kid friendly show. 
When the robot Siddious orders to operate on one of the children points out 
that the child might not survive, he replies, In that case I still lose 
nothing. Later, with the Jedi on the way, he orders the entire hideout 
destroyed, fully intending to kill the kidnapped infants as well. 

The music, action, acting, writing, and vivid colors on display all combined to 
make this a really fun hour. I can honestly say that The Clone Wars is in the 
main far superiour to the vast bulk of all the recent Star Wars movies. I could 
honestly watch this series on DVD, coupled with Gendy Tartokovsky's animated 
Clone Wars, and never watch the three prequel movies again, and be very, very 
satisfied. 


Re: [scifinoir2] Barnes and Noble bites the dust

2010-08-19 Thread Keith Johnson
I agree with you and Charles. I miss Oxford--and it's comic book selling little 
sister, Oxford, Too--immensely. I still seek out small, independent coffee 
shops when I can. Places where I can sit on couches and talk to my wife and 
friends, places that don't feel corporate. It's unfortunately all but 
impossible to find small booksellers like that, but coffee shops like that 
fortunately abound. My wife loves to peruse magazines, and is always asking to 
go to the bookstore when we're out. I often demure, and she finally asked me 
about it, since i love reading so much. I had to explain that Borders and 
Barnes and Noble just weren't conducive to *comfortable* reading. They have big 
tables in cold, impersonal areas, or throw tables in chairs against the walls 
with little thought. People flock to them and mostly start typing away on their 
laptops while the coffee machines work in the background. Their reading areas 
never feel cozy or calm, never relax me, so I tend to pass for the opportunity. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:55:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Barnes and Noble bites the dust 






I admit to missing that as well, Charles, sitting around and chatting. Didn't 
get to do it often, with the demands of work, though. 


On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles  
char...@sheehanmiles.net  wrote: 









I made the comment to my wife a couple weeks ago that I'd be screwed if we had 
any sort of apocalypse (or lengthy power outage for that matter). After three 
moves in one year (and another one coming up in a few weeks), we got tired of 
lugging around dozens of boxes of books from state to state. After the last 
move, I donated more than a 1000 books to the local library, and replaced most 
of them with ebooks. I carry my library around in my pocket now, which is 
great… but when the battery dies, it really sucks. 


I have mixed feelings about Barnes  Noble. I was a regular at Oxford Books in 
Atlanta for many years, met my wife there, got married in the coffee shop. Not 
long after BN opened up in Buckhead, Oxford started careening toward 
bankruptcy, due to a combination of bad management, too much debt, and sudden 
intense competition from a national chain. BN killed off many many independent 
bookstores, and now ironically is being killed off by virtual competition. Not 
entirely sure how I feel about that, because I'd give a lot to be able to sit 
in the coffee shop at Oxford again chatting with the other regulars late into 
the night. 


From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
Reply-To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:16:31 -0400 
To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Barnes and Noble bites the dust 








My hunch is that BN never really embraced the Internet or e-books, tied as it 
was to the old-fashioned world of physical books and stores. 

Personally, rave, I think that just might be why I like BN so much. I'm not 
big on e-books at all (I picked up a batch over the past few weeks, only 
because it was the only way I could get the books, as they're unavailable in 
print. E-books, for all the marvel they are, are dependent on tech to be 
viewable. If you've got a problem with your Kindle or iPhone or computer, 
you're SOL. Books don't break down, even when they fall apart. 


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110381/clearance-sale-barnes-noble-didnt-evolve-enough?mod=career-leadership
 

How did Barnes  Noble (NYSE: BKS - News) fall so far so fast? 

The giant bookstore chain, whose superstores once struck fear into the hearts 
of independent booksellers everywhere, put itself up for sale this month, 
rendering it the corporate equivalent of the remaindered books it sells at a 
discount. 

The company said it made the move because its shares are undervalued, but to me 
there was an air of desperation about it. 

The simple explanation for Barnes  Noble's decline is the Internet, which 
spawned Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN - News), e-readers and digital books. But that 
didn't have to be the end for BN, which had a dominant market position and 
should have out-Amazoned Amazon, leveraging its brand and innovating when it 
began marketing and selling books online. 

I know exactly when BN lost me as a customer. Some years ago, to compete with 
Amazon, BN began offering free same-day delivery in Manhattan if you placed 
your order over the Internet by 11 a.m. I did so several times -- and not once 
did the books arrive when promised. Everything I have ordered from Amazon has 
arrived on time or earlier. Then came Amazon's game-changing Kindle, and 
instant delivery. Nothing I've read about BN's belated rival Nook has tempted 
me to try it. 

My hunch is that BN never really embraced the Internet or e-books, tied as it 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust

2010-08-19 Thread Keith Johnson
Agreed, there's a difference in the experiences. I guess for younger folks, the 
tactile experience is the button pushing and scrolling, which is as familiar to 
them as page turning and caressing the spine of a book is to us. I guess when 
those kids' children and grandchildren are reading, then those then-parents 
will complain about how you can enjoy reading a book when the comforting 
feeling of a keypad is replaced with swiping at holoimages in empty air. 


- Original Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:35:19 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust 






I miss that as well. 

I can't do the e-book thing. Comic books work for me in that format but I love 
the experience of holding and reading a printed book. The Kindle, Nook, I-pad, 
etc. can't seem to replicate it for me. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote: 
 
 I admit to missing that as well, Charles, sitting around and chatting. 
 Didn't get to do it often, with the demands of work, though. 
 
 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles  
 char...@... wrote: 
 
  
  
  I made the comment to my wife a couple weeks ago that I'd be screwed if we 
  had any sort of apocalypse (or lengthy power outage for that matter). After 
  three moves in one year (and another one coming up in a few weeks), we got 
  tired of lugging around dozens of boxes of books from state to state. After 
  the last move, I donated more than a 1000 books to the local library, and 
  replaced most of them with ebooks. I carry my library around in my pocket 
  now, which is great… but when the battery dies, it really sucks. 
  
  I have mixed feelings about Barnes  Noble. I was a regular at Oxford 
  Books in Atlanta for many years, met my wife there, got married in the 
  coffee shop. Not long after BN opened up in Buckhead, Oxford started 
  careening toward bankruptcy, due to a combination of bad management, too 
  much debt, and sudden intense competition from a national chain. BN killed 
  off many many independent bookstores, and now ironically is being killed 
  off 
  by virtual competition. Not entirely sure how I feel about that, because 
  I'd give a lot to be able to sit in the coffee shop at Oxford again 
  chatting 
  with the other regulars late into the night. 
  
  From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... 
  Reply-To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
  Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:16:31 -0400 
  To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Barnes and Noble bites the dust 
  
  
  
  My hunch is that BN never really embraced the Internet or e-books, tied 
  as it was to the old-fashioned world of physical books and stores. 
  
  Personally, rave, I think that just might be why I like BN so much. I'm 
  not big on e-books at all (I picked up a batch over the past few weeks, 
  only 
  because it was the only way I could get the books, as they're unavailable 
  in 
  print. E-books, for all the marvel they are, are dependent on tech to be 
  viewable. If you've got a problem with your Kindle or iPhone or computer, 
  you're SOL. Books don't break down, even when they fall apart. 
  
  On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110381/clearance-sale-barnes-noble-didnt-evolve-enough?mod=career-leadership
   
  
  How did Barnes  Noble (NYSE: BKS - News) fall so far so fast? 
  
  The giant bookstore chain, whose superstores once struck fear into the 
  hearts of independent booksellers everywhere, put itself up for sale this 
  month, rendering it the corporate equivalent of the remaindered books it 
  sells at a discount. 
  
  The company said it made the move because its shares are undervalued, but 
  to me there was an air of desperation about it. 
  
  The simple explanation for Barnes  Noble's decline is the Internet, which 
  spawned Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN - News), e-readers and digital books. But 
  that didn't have to be the end for BN, which had a dominant market 
  position 
  and should have out-Amazoned Amazon, leveraging its brand and innovating 
  when it began marketing and selling books online. 
  
  I know exactly when BN lost me as a customer. Some years ago, to compete 
  with Amazon, BN began offering free same-day delivery in Manhattan if you 
  placed your order over the Internet by 11 a.m. I did so several times -- 
  and 
  not once did the books arrive when promised. Everything I have ordered 
  from 
  Amazon has arrived on time or earlier. Then came Amazon's game-changing 
  Kindle, and instant delivery. Nothing I've read about BN's belated rival 
  Nook has tempted me to try it. 
  
  My hunch is that BN never really embraced the Internet or e-books, tied 
  as it was to the old-fashioned world of physical books and stores. As BN 
  focused on managing decline, a much more nimble Amazon could 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust

2010-08-19 Thread Keith Johnson
Nice thought, and very nicely written! You put me in mind of the fact that we 
also too often forget that a significant portion of the population isn't wired 
to the level of being able to replace books, mags, and even regular TVs with 
iPads/iPods, Kindles, and the like. Many of our people can barely afford to pay 
the rent, let alone buy ereaders, so the library will be a great place for 
them. 

- Original Message - 
From: angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:53:15 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Barnes and Noble bites the dust 






I still like paper books too. But even if the book store market falls apart, 
there will be one last refuge: the public library. 

After decades of neglect, we have 2 new BEAUTIFUL libraries in walking distance 
of us in DC. They are busy with people of all walks. The librarians are far 
more helpful than clerks at a store. They couldn't print a list of top sci-fi 
books either. But because they're profesionals and perhaps tickled to see a 
sistah in the psuedo-hood looking for such titles, they gathered around the 
computer and really tried to help me. Plus, they now have on-line accounts for 
card holders, so you get reminders when your books are due, when your special 
orders are in, etc. And my daughter loves picking out as many books as she 
wants to take home. 

So maybe the fall of the mega book store will lead to the revitalization of the 
old fashioned neighborhood library where we can avoid the temptation of $5.00 
mocha coffee messes, and get our hands on Charles' 1,000 books...for free. 

Angela 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: 
 
 I miss that as well. 
 
 I can't do the e-book thing. Comic books work for me in that format but I 
 love the experience of holding and reading a printed book. The Kindle, Nook, 
 I-pad, etc. can't seem to replicate it for me. 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote: 
  
  I admit to missing that as well, Charles, sitting around and chatting. 
  Didn't get to do it often, with the demands of work, though. 
  
  On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Charles Sheehan-Miles  
  charles@ wrote: 
  
   
   
   I made the comment to my wife a couple weeks ago that I'd be screwed if 
   we 
   had any sort of apocalypse (or lengthy power outage for that matter). 
   After 
   three moves in one year (and another one coming up in a few weeks), we 
   got 
   tired of lugging around dozens of boxes of books from state to state. 
   After 
   the last move, I donated more than a 1000 books to the local library, and 
   replaced most of them with ebooks. I carry my library around in my pocket 
   now, which is great… but when the battery dies, it really sucks. 
   
   I have mixed feelings about Barnes  Noble. I was a regular at Oxford 
   Books in Atlanta for many years, met my wife there, got married in the 
   coffee shop. Not long after BN opened up in Buckhead, Oxford started 
   careening toward bankruptcy, due to a combination of bad management, too 
   much debt, and sudden intense competition from a national chain. BN 
   killed 
   off many many independent bookstores, and now ironically is being killed 
   off 
   by virtual competition. Not entirely sure how I feel about that, because 
   I'd give a lot to be able to sit in the coffee shop at Oxford again 
   chatting 
   with the other regulars late into the night. 
   
   From: Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ 
   Reply-To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
   Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:16:31 -0400 
   To:  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
   Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Barnes and Noble bites the dust 
   
   
   
   My hunch is that BN never really embraced the Internet or e-books, tied 
   as it was to the old-fashioned world of physical books and stores. 
   
   Personally, rave, I think that just might be why I like BN so much. I'm 
   not big on e-books at all (I picked up a batch over the past few weeks, 
   only 
   because it was the only way I could get the books, as they're unavailable 
   in 
   print. E-books, for all the marvel they are, are dependent on tech to be 
   viewable. If you've got a problem with your Kindle or iPhone or computer, 
   you're SOL. Books don't break down, even when they fall apart. 
   
   On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: 
   
   
   
   
   http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110381/clearance-sale-barnes-noble-didnt-evolve-enough?mod=career-leadership

   
   How did Barnes  Noble (NYSE: BKS - News) fall so far so fast? 
   
   The giant bookstore chain, whose superstores once struck fear into the 
   hearts of independent booksellers everywhere, put itself up for sale 
   this 
   month, rendering it the corporate equivalent of the remaindered books it 
   sells at a discount. 
   
   The company said it made the move because its shares are undervalued, 
   but 
   to me there 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Geeks cool off at box office

2010-08-18 Thread Keith Johnson
Really? I'd think more people just ignored him than actively hated him. Now, 
I've heard of people getting sick of Shia Labeouf, primarily because he's 
Spielberg's golden boy and seems to be getting a lot of roles all of a sudden. 

- Original Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:01:52 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Geeks cool off at box office 






There also seems to be some Michael Cera backlash going on. Some folks really 
hate that guy. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 I think the confusion here is an example of how the suits and prognosticators 
 just don't get it. Anyone who expected Scott Pilgrim to do really big 
 numbers needed to do more research. It's based on work that not a lot of 
 people have read, its skews a bit younger in some cases, and the very ads for 
 the movie feature mostly young teens. Frankly, I think a ten million or so 
 box office is pretty decent and in line with what I expected. There is also 
 the fact that a lot of school systems are starting back up again, so some of 
 the target audience was out shopping for clothes and supplies and may have 
 delayed going for a week or two. 
 Either way, they need to do a better job in H'Wood of managing expectations 
 and understanding that some pictures should only be expected to do decent 
 money, and not all can or should be mega-blockbusters. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:27:24 PM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Geeks cool off at box office 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/2010/08/17/15051616.html 
 
 Geeks cool off at box office 
 
 By CARL DiORIO, Hollywood Reporter 
 
 LOS ANGELES - Geeks might be less dependable than gals but not necessarily 
 less desirable. 
 
 That’s the industry consensus after the simultaneous misfire of a fanboy 
 movie and impressive launch of what only can be described as a chick flick 
 last weekend. 
 
 “Eat Pray Love� enjoyed a box office feast served up by overwhelmingly 
 older-female audiences during the weekend, and “Scott Pilgrim vs. the 
 World� fought a losing battle to put geek butts in theater seats. 
 
 Lionsgate’s older-males magnet “The Expendables� topped domestic 
 rankings 
 with a $34.8 million opening, but Sony’s book-based “Love� debuted 
 impressively in second place with $23.1 million. The big love for “Love� 
 followed lucrative outings by 2008’s “Sex and the City� and “Mamma 
 Mia!� - 
 which fetched $153 million and $144 million in their respective campaigns 
 - and last year’s “Julie  Julia,� a $94 million domestic grosser. 
 
 The trifecta success of such female-targeting films makes it plain there 
 is box office gold in the gender genre. (Opening audiences for “Love� 
 were 
 72% female, with 60% of patrons 25 or older.) 
 
 So niche pics can be lucrative. But what’s up with the penny-pinching geek 
 squad? 
 
 Universal’s “Pilgrim� traveled to just $10.6 million in a fifth-place 
 launch. The studio puts the pic’s negative cost at $60 million after 
 accounting for $25 million in tax credits. 
 
 “If that film had been made for $15 milion-$20 million, nobody would be 
 crying,� an executive at a rival studio said Monday. “But you have an 
 offbeat movie with an offbeat title starring somebody who is sort of a 
 niche-targeted guy to begin with.� 
 
 Michael Cera’s topline turn in the comics-spawned “Pilgrim“ followed 
 his 
 roles in indie fare including this year’s “Youth in Revolt,� a $15.3 
 million domestic performer for Dimension, and “Paper Heart,� which took 
 in 
 less than $2 million for Overture after unspooling in August 2009. 
 
 Even Cera’s pairing with Jack Black in Sony’s $43 million grosser “Year 
 One� last summer represents mere chump change compared with his $144 
 million and $122 million outings among the ensemble casts of Fox 
 Searchlight’s “Juno� and Sony’s “Superbad,� respectively, in 
 2007. By 
 contrast, “Love� boasts the marquee magic of Julia Roberts and is based 
 on 
 a best-seller. 
 
 But the question remains: If all creative and marketing considerations are 
 equal, is the audience for a geek-seeking pic as big as that for a chick 
 flick? 
 
 “’Watchmen’ opened to $55 million, so I think the answer is yes,� a 
 distribution executive mused. “Geeks can still rule, no question about 
 it.� 
 
 With a production budget estimated at $130 million, Warner Bros.’ 
 comics-based “Watchmen� was considered a disappointment in fetching less 
 than $108 million last year during its domestic run. But its big opening 
 hinted at the enormous potential of fanboy movies that can tap into 
 broader groups of moviegoers via positive word-of-mouth and mount leggy 
 theatrical runs

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Geeks cool off at box office

2010-08-18 Thread Keith Johnson
Right. And frankly, a lot of comic-based movies nowadays--those based on big 
properties--pull in a lot of black people. At least, enough to add to the box 
office in a meaningful way. So do scif pics with black stars--which pretty much 
means Will Smith all the time. But I didn't even see any blacks featured 
prominently in the ads for Scott Pilgrim. That means blacks who aren't teens 
going with a gang of friends or who aren't into the comics probably didn't even 
take notice. I go to the movies with a group of blacks ranging in age from 
mid-20's to late '40s. From Batman to X-Men, they've gone to see the films 
'cause they're based on known properties, they're event films, or, in cases 
like Men in Black orBook of Eli, to see the likes of Smith or Washington. But 
not a single person in the group uttered a peep about what I'm sure they see as 
a strange, nerdy movie based on a comic they've never heard of, focused on 
people who don't look like them. 

- Original Message - 
From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:59:30 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Geeks cool off at box office 






Exactly. I plan on seeing the movie because I loved the comics but someone 
coming in fresh would be a bit bewildered at the whole thing. From what I hear 
it's excellent if you get it but if it doesn't scratch your itch you'll be less 
than satisfied. It's a niche film but early audience response may have skewed 
expectations. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 I think the confusion here is an example of how the suits and prognosticators 
 just don't get it. Anyone who expected Scott Pilgrim to do really big 
 numbers needed to do more research. It's based on work that not a lot of 
 people have read, its skews a bit younger in some cases, and the very ads for 
 the movie feature mostly young teens. Frankly, I think a ten million or so 
 box office is pretty decent and in line with what I expected. There is also 
 the fact that a lot of school systems are starting back up again, so some of 
 the target audience was out shopping for clothes and supplies and may have 
 delayed going for a week or two. 
 Either way, they need to do a better job in H'Wood of managing expectations 
 and understanding that some pictures should only be expected to do decent 
 money, and not all can or should be mega-blockbusters. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:27:24 PM 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Geeks cool off at box office 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/2010/08/17/15051616.html 
 
 Geeks cool off at box office 
 
 By CARL DiORIO, Hollywood Reporter 
 
 LOS ANGELES - Geeks might be less dependable than gals but not necessarily 
 less desirable. 
 
 That’s the industry consensus after the simultaneous misfire of a fanboy 
 movie and impressive launch of what only can be described as a chick flick 
 last weekend. 
 
 “Eat Pray Love� enjoyed a box office feast served up by overwhelmingly 
 older-female audiences during the weekend, and “Scott Pilgrim vs. the 
 World� fought a losing battle to put geek butts in theater seats. 
 
 Lionsgate’s older-males magnet “The Expendables� topped domestic 
 rankings 
 with a $34.8 million opening, but Sony’s book-based “Love� debuted 
 impressively in second place with $23.1 million. The big love for “Love� 
 followed lucrative outings by 2008’s “Sex and the City� and “Mamma 
 Mia!� - 
 which fetched $153 million and $144 million in their respective campaigns 
 - and last year’s “Julie  Julia,� a $94 million domestic grosser. 
 
 The trifecta success of such female-targeting films makes it plain there 
 is box office gold in the gender genre. (Opening audiences for “Love� 
 were 
 72% female, with 60% of patrons 25 or older.) 
 
 So niche pics can be lucrative. But what’s up with the penny-pinching geek 
 squad? 
 
 Universal’s “Pilgrim� traveled to just $10.6 million in a fifth-place 
 launch. The studio puts the pic’s negative cost at $60 million after 
 accounting for $25 million in tax credits. 
 
 “If that film had been made for $15 milion-$20 million, nobody would be 
 crying,� an executive at a rival studio said Monday. “But you have an 
 offbeat movie with an offbeat title starring somebody who is sort of a 
 niche-targeted guy to begin with.� 
 
 Michael Cera’s topline turn in the comics-spawned “Pilgrim“ followed 
 his 
 roles in indie fare including this year’s “Youth in Revolt,� a $15.3 
 million domestic performer for Dimension, and “Paper Heart,� which took 
 in 
 less than $2 million for Overture after unspooling in August 2009. 
 
 Even Cera’s pairing with Jack Black in Sony’s $43 million grosser “Year 
 One� last summer represents mere chump change compared with his $144

Re: [scifinoir2] World record data density for ferroelectric recording

2010-08-18 Thread Keith Johnson
I think true holographic optical storage could surpass the density, as you 
don't have to worry about issues like magnetic bleed through and the like. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:32:26 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] World record data density for ferroelectric recording 






World record data density for ferroelectric recording 


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Scientists at Tohoku University in Japan have recorded data at a density of 4 
trillion bits per square inch, which is a world record for the experimental 
ferroelectric data storage method. As described the journal Applied Physics 
Letters, which is published by the American Institute of Physics, this density 
is about eight times the density of today's most advanced magnetic hard-disk 
drives 




The data-recording device scans a tiny cantilever tip that rides in contact 
with the surface of a ferroelectric material. To write data, an electric pulse 
is sent through the tip, changing the electric polarization and nonlinear 
dielectric constant of a tiny circular spot in the substrate beneath. To read 
data, the same tip detects the variations in nonlinear dielectric constant in 
the altered regions. 

We expect this ferroelectric data storage system to be a candidate to succeed 
magnetic hard disk drives or flash memory, at least in applications for which 
extremely high data density and small physical volume is required, said Dr. 
Yasuo Cho. 

In earlier experiments, the researchers had noticed one problem: When the data 
being written required that several consecutive marks be written next to each 
other, the written polarized regions expanded the normal diameter and coalesced 
to the point the bits were not distinct. Cho and Kenkou Tanaka then developed a 
method for anticipating strings of consecutive marks in the data and reducing 
the writing-pulse voltage by up to about 10 percent, which resulted in clear 
and distinct data marks. 

While ferroelectric storage has the advantage of using only electric methods -- 
nothing magnetic or thermal -- to achieve its record-high density, Cho and 
Tanaka are well aware that many practical improvements would be needed for 
commercial viability. Such advances would include increasing the speed and 
accuracy of reading the data and developing a low-cost ferroelectric substrate. 

Another risk is that existing data storage technologies continue to improve 
beyond the ferroelectric's capabilities. Disk drive maker Seagate, for example, 
has said it can envision achieving a density of 50 trillion bits per square 
inch. 

The article, Actual Information Storage with a Recording Density of 4 
Tbit/inch^2 in a ferroelectric recording medium by Kenkou Tanaka and Yasuo Cho 
will appear in the journal Applied Physics Letters. 

-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 






Re: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas

2010-08-17 Thread Keith Johnson
Right. The online world used to be called Expanded Universe, but I can't find 
that particular site anymore. Now it's unto Databank or something. But yeah, 
all the aftermath stories show just how difficult it was to change the course 
of the Empire. There were battles a-plenty left. Indeed, often there can be 
more and more painful fighting after the evil leaders are gone. And the 
relatively small number of Jedi would be hard tasked to restore a moral center 
to the galaxy entire as they struggled to rebuild their Order and make sure 
their own don't give in to temptation again. For example, I do recall reading 
that the Emperor lived on in that shade form that Yodi and Obi-Wan used, and 
continued to wreak his evil influence on people. I know Luke is forced in a way 
to give in to the Dark Side, and I believe either his son or his nephew also 
fell to the Darkness for a while. 
Realistically, the ending Kurtz mentions, with Leia overwhelmed by the work to 
be done, and Luke walking away to contemplate a difficult future, would have 
been better. I'm surprised someone hasn't created a fan film where, right in 
the middle of the Ewok Lua, a force of ships loyal to the Empire didn't show up 
and bomb the place. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:28:56 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas 






Another spot-on analysis, Keith. Reminds me of a fantasy novel that came out a 
few years ago (the name of which escapes me), considering what happens after 
the happy ending, that there's the management and clean-up aspects yet to be 
done. And I've read a few of the SW novels, enough to see the strengthening 
foundation that been laid for the SWverse. One batch in particular regards the 
Mandalorians (the clones of Jango Fett that chose not to be Stormtroopers, 
packed up and left for Mandalor). They developed their own unique culture, and 
even a language unlike any in the remnants of the Empire. 


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









The below from the interview really resonates with me. One problem i always had 
with Return of the Jedi was the ending. I kept thinking that just because the 
second Death Star was destroyed, and Vader and the Emperor dead, that only 
meant the work was beginning. After all, there was a huge interstellar 
apparatus in place that had aided and been complicit with the Empire's 
depredations. This system included the rule of whole solar systems, a corrupt 
Senate, leaders on hundreds of worlds loyal to the Empire that gave them money 
and power, a military dedicated to the Empire, and a dearth of Jedi to enforce 
the principles of the Old Republic. In short, the work was indeed just 
beginning, and tackling the task of a galaxy-wide makeover of a totalitarian 
state into a democratic one again would be a monumental task. Look at how the 
former Soviet Union is already struggling mightily with autocratic elements 
fighting with its democratic aspirations. They have a Prime Minister who was an 
autocratic president who's basically their strong man. 
So the Ewok lua as he put it, was indeed premature. I think that if you read 
some of the books, and study the Expanded Universe online, you see more mature, 
thoughtful, and in-depth treatments that handle that world a lot better than 
the kid- and crowd-pleasing movies. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  



To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:01:40 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Gary Kurtz Speaks Bluntly About George Lucas 






George Lucas, Mercenary Bastich First Class? You betcha, according to Kurtz... 

http://www.collider.com/2010/08/13/star-wars-and-empire-strikes-back-producer-gary-kurtz-speaks-bluntly-about-george-lucas-return-of-the-jedi-and-more/
 

-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] Free software can help with studies

2010-08-17 Thread Keith Johnson
I did a lot of research on AVG vs. Avast recently in the course of working on a 
friend's PC that was infected to the gills. AVG, to its credit, caught a 
rootkit infection hidden in a .sys file that controls the PC's ability to use 
TCP/IP--and hence, to network. Several other highly recommended programs like 
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and Super AntiSpyware missed it. But that being said, 
I went with Avast as well for a more robust and configurable system, and 
general acknowledgment by the experts that it's a better anti-malware program. 
AVG is more popular, but Avast is better, from what I've read. And AVG bogs the 
system done with updates, whereas AVG at least does updates on login/reboot 
that can be gotten out of the way quickly. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:36:54 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Free software can help with studies 






I'm tooting the horn for OpenOffice and avast! yet again, and advising one and 
all to run from GoogleDocs as though it were plague-soaked. I tried it once, 
and ended up with something so jumbled that it didn't resemble the English 
language. And duck and run from AVG as well, unless you want something that'll 
shred your computer. My mother had it on hers, and the thing's toast now. An 
AVG run on her system takes close to forty minutes, while avast! is less than 
five on mine, and my HD is twice hers. 


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








This article should be called Alternatives to Microsoft software. 

Back to school: Free software can help with studies 
By RENÉ GUZMAN STAFF WRITER 
Aug. 15, 2010, 5:30PM 






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B ack to school means more than just hitting the books. It also means hitting 
the computer to bang out a term paper, create a PowerPoint-type presentation or 
simply go online to find out next week's assignments. 

Good thing the Web has plenty of free software to handle your course load. 

From word processing to image editing, you'll find a wealth of aptly named 
freeware that meets or even exceeds its commercial rivals when it comes to 
features and operability. And whether you download these freebies or just play 
with them online, they're sure to save you hundreds in software costs. (Trust 
us, we have the prices for some of the more popular software to prove it.) 

Here are a few must-have free programs to tackle your class work, whether you 
use a Mac or a PC. Freely. 

Word processor office suite 

Instead of : Microsoft Office Home and Student 2010 ($149.99, Windows) and 
Office 2008 for Mac Home and Student Edition ($149.99) 

Use: AbiWord ( abiword.com ), OpenOffice.org ( openoffice.org ), Google Docs ( 
docs.google.com ), Zoho Writer ( writer.zoho.com ), Zoho Sheet ( sheet.zoho.com 
), Zoho Show ( show.zoho.com ) 

For a basic word processor — something you can write complex and multipage 
reports with - AbiWord is a fairly strong option, says Seth Rosenblatt, senior 
associate editor for the tech-resource site CNET. This downloadable program is 
super simple to use and saves documents in myriad formats, including Microsoft 
Word (.doc) and Office Open XML (.docx). 

If you'd rather keep your essays in the cloud, you can't beat the online word 
processors Google Docs and Zoho Writer . Both let you access documents anywhere 
you have a Web connection (computer or smartphone), import and export 
documents, and share documents online with real-time collaboration just like a 
study group within a screen. 

Need more than word processing? Rosenblatt recommends you download the 
productivity suite openoffice.org . We're talking about something that is 
designed to completely replicate or replicate as closely as possible, the 
toolset that comes in Microsoft Office, he says, but you don't have to pay 
for it. 

OpenOffice.org lets you write with Writer , design spreadsheets with Calc , 
craft presentations with Impress , play with graphics with Draw and make a 
database with Base . OpenOffice.org reads and writes most file formats, 
including those common to Microsoft Office. For similar office elements online, 
try Google Docs and Zoho productivity apps Zoho Sheet for spreadsheets and Zoho 
Show for presentations. 

Image editing 

Instead of: Adobe Photoshop Elements 8 ($99.99) or Adobe Photoshop CS5 12 
($699.99) 

Use: Photoscape ( photoscape.org ), Windows), Paint.NET ( getpaint.net ), 
Windows), Phoenix ( aviary.com , choose Image Editor), Picnik ( picnik.com ), 
GIMP ( gimp.org ) 

Whether you need to add visual aids to your book report or just zap the red eye 
from your study-buddy snapshots, you can't beat the image editor Paint.NET . 
The Web info blog MakeUsOf.com highlights this free Windows-only download, and 
it's easy to see why. Paint.NET sports a very 

Re: [scifinoir2] Geeks cool off at box office

2010-08-17 Thread Keith Johnson
I think the confusion here is an example of how the suits and prognosticators 
just don't get it. Anyone who expected Scott Pilgrim to do really big numbers 
needed to do more research. It's based on work that not a lot of people have 
read, its skews a bit younger in some cases, and the very ads for the movie 
feature mostly young teens. Frankly, I think a ten million or so box office is 
pretty decent and in line with what I expected. There is also the fact that a 
lot of school systems are starting back up again, so some of the target 
audience was out shopping for clothes and supplies and may have delayed going 
for a week or two. 
Either way, they need to do a better job in H'Wood of managing expectations and 
understanding that some pictures should only be expected to do decent money, 
and not all can or should be mega-blockbusters. 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:27:24 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Geeks cool off at box office 






http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/2010/08/17/15051616.html 

Geeks cool off at box office 

By CARL DiORIO, Hollywood Reporter 

LOS ANGELES - Geeks might be less dependable than gals but not necessarily 
less desirable. 

That’s the industry consensus after the simultaneous misfire of a fanboy 
movie and impressive launch of what only can be described as a chick flick 
last weekend. 

“Eat Pray Love” enjoyed a box office feast served up by overwhelmingly 
older-female audiences during the weekend, and “Scott Pilgrim vs. the 
World” fought a losing battle to put geek butts in theater seats. 

Lionsgate’s older-males magnet “The Expendables” topped domestic rankings 
with a $34.8 million opening, but Sony’s book-based “Love” debuted 
impressively in second place with $23.1 million. The big love for “Love” 
followed lucrative outings by 2008’s “Sex and the City” and “Mamma Mia!” - 
which fetched $153 million and $144 million in their respective campaigns 
- and last year’s “Julie  Julia,” a $94 million domestic grosser. 

The trifecta success of such female-targeting films makes it plain there 
is box office gold in the gender genre. (Opening audiences for “Love” were 
72% female, with 60% of patrons 25 or older.) 

So niche pics can be lucrative. But what’s up with the penny-pinching geek 
squad? 

Universal’s “Pilgrim” traveled to just $10.6 million in a fifth-place 
launch. The studio puts the pic’s negative cost at $60 million after 
accounting for $25 million in tax credits. 

“If that film had been made for $15 milion-$20 million, nobody would be 
crying,” an executive at a rival studio said Monday. “But you have an 
offbeat movie with an offbeat title starring somebody who is sort of a 
niche-targeted guy to begin with.” 

Michael Cera’s topline turn in the comics-spawned “Pilgrim“ followed his 
roles in indie fare including this year’s “Youth in Revolt,” a $15.3 
million domestic performer for Dimension, and “Paper Heart,” which took in 
less than $2 million for Overture after unspooling in August 2009. 

Even Cera’s pairing with Jack Black in Sony’s $43 million grosser “Year 
One” last summer represents mere chump change compared with his $144 
million and $122 million outings among the ensemble casts of Fox 
Searchlight’s “Juno” and Sony’s “Superbad,” respectively, in 2007. By 
contrast, “Love” boasts the marquee magic of Julia Roberts and is based on 
a best-seller. 

But the question remains: If all creative and marketing considerations are 
equal, is the audience for a geek-seeking pic as big as that for a chick 
flick? 

“’Watchmen’ opened to $55 million, so I think the answer is yes,” a 
distribution executive mused. “Geeks can still rule, no question about 
it.” 

With a production budget estimated at $130 million, Warner Bros.’ 
comics-based “Watchmen” was considered a disappointment in fetching less 
than $108 million last year during its domestic run. But its big opening 
hinted at the enormous potential of fanboy movies that can tap into 
broader groups of moviegoers via positive word-of-mouth and mount leggy 
theatrical runs. 

Warners’ “The Matrix” did just that. The 1999 Keanu Reeves starrer rang up 
$171 million domestically and spawned two sequels. 

“You can get lucky and hit like a ‘Matrix’ or a ‘Watchmen,’ or you can get 
unlucky and have a ‘Scott Pilgrim,”’ one industryite said with a shrug. 

The latter pic is expected to struggle to get past even $30 million 
domestically after opening so poorly. Its lack of commercial appeal might 
be conceptual in part. Directed by Edgar Wright (“Hot Fuzz“), “Pilgrim” 
displays a quirky campiness that played well with critics but calls to 
mind the critically lauded but commercially limited “Kick-Ass,” the 
Nicolas Cage starrer that Lionsgate unspooled in April and fetched $48 
million in total U.S. and Canadian coin. That put the modestly budgeted 
actioner into profitability but lagged prerelease 

Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
You can't see 3D in movies? Why is that? I assume you do have stereoscopic 
vision in everyday real life? 
What about the old ViewMaster? Does that work for your 3D vision? 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:34:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies that aren't in 3-D but should be 






rave, abso-frelling-lutely NONE. I'm on the record as saying that I'd rather 
have effects as background to telling the story, not as a crutch. Movies such 
as Avatar, which are dependent on the effect, are a different animal, in my 
eyes. Add in the fact that my brain doesn't process 3D effects... 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








Since the success of Avatar there have been a plethora of 3-D movies - many 
of which had no business being 3-D movies. 

This brought up the question of 2-D movies that should have been 3-D movies. 

For instance: Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World is a 2-D movie that would probably 
be enhanced by 3-D effects. 

Are there any others? 

~rave? 





-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Brilliant, and one of those why didn't anyone think of that before ideas! 
Reading this, I was for some reason put in mind of the Marvel hero Dazzler, who 
absorbs all sounds, which she then transduces into light as varied as strobe 
efffects, holograms, or actual laser beams. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:06:27 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power 







Come On, See the Noise: Airport Noise Converted to Power 







Anyone who’s been to an airport knows that airports are some of the noisiest 
places on Earth. The constant noise of the airplanes flying overhead, taxiing, 
taking off and landing can be almost deafening – but some good might one day 
come of it. This concept – the Green Noise converter – from designer Hung-Uei 
Jou would harvest noise from airports to provide the power for runway lights. 



Runway lights, of course, use a large amount of electricity since they need to 
be left on for long periods of time. Finding an alternative source of energy to 
lighten the electricity load on the grid would not only save money, but help to 
cut down on pollution from power plants. A small change, maybe, but a positive 
one nonetheless. Depending on the technical aspect, it may be possible to use 
this type of technology in other noisy places: city centers, sporting events, 
or even nightclubs. 



There aren’t any technical details about how the design would work, but it’s 
possible that the round pods on the ground would operate on piezoelectricity. 
When the sound waves vibrate the collection pods, the interior materials would 
produce small amounts of electricity. The tripod that supports the collection 
unit lifts it off of the ground enough to make it simple for airport techs to 
perform maintenance on the units and change the lights when they burn out. A 
screen on the side of each unit gives vital information about the unit’s 
status, such as how much of a charge it has remaining. 

-- 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
I can understand that, certainly. I'm going to read that article in just a bit. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:30:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 






Keith, I posted an article about an hour ago, an interview with Gary Kurtz, who 
worked with Messr Lucas on the first SW movies. I believe that I referred to 
Lucas as a Mercenary Bastich, First Class. The promise of more deleted 
scenes (which I recall as being a lure he used back in '97 when he churned out 
the Special Editions) alone is enough to put me off. Add in the fact that I 
don't own a Blu-ray, and it equals me keeping my ducats. 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









Why is that? 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:44:52 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 






Even if I had the money, Keith, I wouldn't sully my wallet. 



On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds 
as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't 
have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at 
least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an 
ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) 
might have? 

* 
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html 

Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 



The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other 
than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I 
could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said 
to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, 
which was moderated by Jon Stewart . 

Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds 
of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes 
[material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be 
included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. 
Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film 
itself. 

In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, 
to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original 
entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it 
was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. 

We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader 
arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We 
see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We 
then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As 
Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out 
with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It 
is the only way. 

As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, 
insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, 
who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out 
his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As 
Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that 
he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts 
the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would 
have been the first reveal of the green blade. 

We cut to a shot from the side and see Luke is sitting inside a cave on 
Tatooine, with C-3P0 standing outside, waiting for him – no doubt to receive 
his orders to head to Jabba the Hutt. 


That was it for the scene, but the crowd erupted in cheers at what was indeed a 
very cool new moment, from films we are all quite familiar with. 

The panel ended with one more surprise guest – Carrie Fisher . Alas, there were 
no other deleted scenes shown to us today, but Fisher cracked to Lucas, Did 
you put the nude scenes back in? She then turned to the audience and 
deadpanned, There was a huge me and Jabba porn scene. That's what got me into 
drugs. 

No further details were given on the Blu-rays as yet, which leave plenty to 
speculate about. It's safe to say from the Return of the Jedi scene being shown 
that this release will include all of the original trilogy, but while it seems 
likely the answer is yes, there was nothing definitive stated about the 
prequels being released simultaneously. And no, we didn't get any info on 
whether the original, pre-Special

Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness =

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, but that's not it for me. It's that they still don't look and act quite 
all the way real, and that last few percentage points can be creepy. The 
Uncanny Valley, again. 


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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:47:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness 
= 






They have several that are used as receptionists in Japan. I think that the 
difference between here and Japan is that they weren't bombarded with psycho 
robot movies for the last 60 years. 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






The Uncanny Valley strikes again. Really creepy-looking, and no offense against 
the lady that's the model, but when I saw it, I honestly thought it was a dude 
in a wig. I think that we need to be careful trying to unleash these 
almost-but-not-quite-human robots on the populace. That creepiness factor might 
make the more sadistic and violent elements among us get perverse pleasure in 
attacking the automatons. Fear often breeds violence, you know, and i can see a 
sick market for people building such robots expressly for the purpose of 
letting people maim and destroy them. in fact, that particular angle's been the 
topic of innumerable scifi stories over the years... 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:53:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness 
= 







Someone out there... please tell me to put down the Beretta I'm pointing at my 
screen right now. 

Mind you, I fully expect that such will happen, far sooner than we think (some 
rich, dying billionaire out there, wanting to cheat the Grim Reaper). That 
could be trouble all its own. A consciousness, able to interact with the 
Internet directly? To quote Bill Paxton from Aliens -- Game over, man. Any 
bad press? Gone. Any corporate takeover? Done so fast it would take days to 
sort it all out. If the guy likes porn? YouTube starts churning it out, whether 
it likes to or not. 

Anyone who'd like to use those ideas, feel free. Just let me know when they hit 
print, because I want to read them. 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 










Insert Personality: Robot Head + Human Consciousness = 







The quest for artificial intelligence has led mankind to some pretty strange 
places, but the Terasem Movement has just taken it to a decidedly creepy new 
level. The non-profit agency is dedicated to educating the public about the 
necessity of extending life through cyber-consciousness. In other words, they 
believe that the human essence can be extended beyond life with the use of 
robots. 



They created this vaguely creepy robot called Bina48. The bot is the first 
privately-funded artificial intelligence robot of its type, and it’s modeled on 
a real woman named Bina Rothblatt. The real Bina spent many hours loading 
information into the head of Bina48, giving “her” a personality and the ability 
to converse with visitors. The above video documents Bina48′s interview with a 
New York Times reporter; it’s apparent that the technology can use a little 
refinement before we can trust it to store our consciousness after we die. But 
if its heartbreaking desires to have its own life, work in the garden and take 
over the world are any indication, we’d better start welcoming our new 
artificially intelligent overlords now. Video: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcQCJpZJH8feature=player_embedded# ! 

-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 









-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 





Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, A New Hope and Empire are easily a cut above the others. Both feel 
more like real movies. They're not as full of kiddie stuff or gimmicks, the 
stories are better in each. Those two films really feel like war movies for 
adults. Return of the Jedi is good, but a bit less in story and execution. 
Still, very good. 
The prequels are all lower quality. The first two suck, the third one at least 
is adult again, with lots of killing (not just robots) but the quality is still 
below the initially released three flicks. 


- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:31:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 








We all know that Lucas is a slightly above average screenwriter but the series 
is perfect as it is. Empirre Strikes Back is my #2 favorite movie ever. 




From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 5:28:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 





what about The Empire Strikes Back? That was a very good movie, and of 
course, had a completely different set of people behind the scenes creatively. 
A New Hope wasn't too bad, either. 


- Original Message - 
From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:19:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 







The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has 
hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, 
anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from 
start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter 
and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction 
legacy in history. 

Bosco 

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM 






This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds 
as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't 
have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at 
least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an 
ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) 
might have? 

* 
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html 

Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 



The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other 
than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I 
could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said 
to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, 
which was moderated by Jon Stewart . 

Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds 
of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes 
[material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be 
included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. 
Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film 
itself. 

In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, 
to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original 
entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it 
was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. 

We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader 
arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We 
see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We 
then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As 
Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out 
with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It 
is the only way. 

As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, 
insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, 
who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out 
his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As 
Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that 
he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts 
the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would 
have been the first reveal of the green blade. 

We cut to a shot from the side and see Luke is sitting inside a cave on 
Tatooine, with C-3P0 standing outside

Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
This was a really well written little e-mail. You managed to convey your 
feelings very vividly. I agree and felt the same way. Unlike Kurtz, i think 
prequels can be assume ideas. I love backstories, and like you, thought the 
backstory of the Star Wars universe would be great. And like you, I sat in the 
theatre and was stunned at what I saw. I hated that the entire first movie was 
wasted on Baby Vader, especially because the young actor was horrible! That Pod 
race--WTF? Midchlorians??? Jar Jar was the least of my issues. 
And note how with the first prequel movie, Lucas spent most of the film killing 
legions of robots, but very view living beings died. it all showed how he'd 
moved from films that kids and families could enjoy, but that still felt adult, 
to really kiddie level films, that reminded me of nothing so much as cartoons 
like G.I. Joe, where no one died. 
The body count went up in Revenge of the Sith, but by then so much damage had 
been done... 


- Original Message - 
From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:44:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 






I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The 
prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that 
story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know 
exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire 
but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some 
point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin 
to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I 
realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a 
mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train 
wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or 
disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the 
fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of 
it. 

B 

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: 



From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:48 PM 





Bosco, I'm sending this to a long-time SW fan, to get a reaction to this. I'll 
let you know what it is. 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bosco Bosco  ironpi...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired 
somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone 
else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start 
to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and 
complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction 
legacy in history. 

Bosco 

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM 






This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds 
as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't 
have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at 
least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an 
ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) 
might have? 

* 
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html 

Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 



The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other 
than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I 
could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said 
to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, 
which was moderated by Jon Stewart . 

Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds 
of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes 
[material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be 
included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. 
Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film 
itself. 

In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, 
to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original 
entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it 
was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. 

We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader 
arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return

Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
The best Star Wars product out in recent years was the animated Clone Wars 
shorts done by Gendy Tartokovsky. those were amazing, and showed the Jedi and 
Sith in ways i'd never gotten to satisfaction by Lucas' movies. For example, i 
always felt the Jedi were never really shown as all the powerful--they just 
tended to jump around a bit and pull stuff out of peoples' hands with the 
Force. But Gendy showed some real power. there's one where Mace Windu is 
surrounded by a legion of robots, and goes freakin' Bruce Lee! He runs at 
superspeed, literally punches through the robots' metal bodies with his bare 
fists, sweep away dozens of robots at a time with a Force Wave that scatters 
them like leaves in a wind, and jumps like the Hulk. Now that's what I'm 
talking about! 

The Clone Wars CGI series on Cartoon Network is actually very good too. 
Amazingly good, in fact. 



- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:31:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 








We all know that Lucas is a slightly above average screenwriter but the series 
is perfect as it is. Empirre Strikes Back is my #2 favorite movie ever. 




From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 5:28:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 





what about The Empire Strikes Back? That was a very good movie, and of 
course, had a completely different set of people behind the scenes creatively. 
A New Hope wasn't too bad, either. 


- Original Message - 
From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:19:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 







The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has 
hired somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, 
anyone else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from 
start to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter 
and complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction 
legacy in history. 

Bosco 

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM 






This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds 
as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't 
have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at 
least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an 
ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) 
might have? 

* 
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html 

Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 



The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other 
than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I 
could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said 
to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, 
which was moderated by Jon Stewart . 

Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds 
of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes 
[material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be 
included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. 
Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film 
itself. 

In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, 
to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original 
entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it 
was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. 

We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader 
arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We 
see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We 
then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As 
Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out 
with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It 
is the only way. 

As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, 
insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, 
who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out 
his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As 
Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down

Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Does the PS3 have all the bells and whistles of Blu-Ray? 

Yeah, I can see not wanting to replace perfectly good DVDs with BR disks. i 
think for a lot of people, the next move will probably be to just do digital 
downloads of movies that can be shown from a PC onto a flatscreen TV. 

- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:37:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 








I love the Blu ray function and trust me there is a difference , but again I'm 
not retooling my entire collection to blu-ray. 




From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 2:08:01 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 





I don't have a PS3. A Genesis, SNES, and PS2, but no PS3. How do you like it as 
a Blu-Ray player? Have all the firmware upgrades allowed it to do all the 
latest stuff that Blu-Ray allows? 

- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:40:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 








I use my PS3 as a blu-ray player and I'll get it. But not in one swoop. I'll 
get Empire Strikes Back first. 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To: scifinoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:47:35 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 





This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds 
as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't 
have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at 
least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an 
ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) 
might have? 

* 
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html 

Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 



The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other 
than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I 
could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said 
to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, 
which was moderated by Jon Stewart . 

Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds 
of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes 
[material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be 
included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet. 
Lucas said these newly released scenes would be kept separate from the film 
itself. 

In a surprise appearance, Mark Hamill then joined Lucas and Stewart on stage, 
to introduce one of the new deleted scenes, which he said was his original 
entrance in Return of the Jedi . Hamill noted the scene was short, but that it 
was for the UPFs in the audience – the ultra passionate fans. 

We were then shown the scene, which would have taken place after Darth Vader 
arrives on the second Death Star at the beginning of Return of the Jedi . We 
see Vader walking down a corridor and into an elevator on the Death Star. We 
then cut to Vader inside his medication chamber, a la Empire Strikes Back . As 
Vader sits there, the camera moves into a close-up and we hear him reaching out 
with the Force. Luke. Luke. Join me in the dark side of the Force. My son. It 
is the only way. 

As Vader continues to repeat Luke's name, we cut to a tight close-up of Luke, 
insinuating he is hearing his father's voice. it's a very ominous shot of Luke, 
who is wearing his cloak and hood, with the shadows from the hood blocking out 
his eyes completely - in line with how Darth Sideous' face is mostly hidden. As 
Vader's voice fades away, the camera pans down to Luke's hands, and we see that 
he is using a tool to complete work on his new lightsaber. Satisfied, he puts 
the tool down and holds the lightsaber hilt up, igniting it – in what would 
have been the first reveal of the green blade. 

We cut to a shot from the side and see Luke is sitting inside a cave on 
Tatooine, with C-3P0 standing outside, waiting for him – no doubt to receive 
his orders to head to Jabba the Hutt. 


That was it for the scene, but the crowd erupted in cheers at what was indeed a 
very cool new moment, from films we are all quite familiar with. 

The panel ended with one more surprise guest – Carrie Fisher . Alas, there were 
no other deleted scenes shown to us today, but Fisher cracked to Lucas, Did 
you put the nude scenes back in? She then turned to the audience and 
deadpanned, There was a huge me and Jabba porn scene. That's what got me into 
drugs. 

No further details were given on the Blu-rays as yet, which leave plenty to 
speculate about. It's

Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Amen! the Midchlorians had me gasping and laughing in horror, amusement ,and 
disbelief in the theatre. And more, what showed that Lucas had completely lost 
any understanding of the world he created was what I read in an interview with 
him. He was discussing Vader's fate, and said that what frustrated the Emperor 
was that Vader was no longer the uber powerful weapon of destruction he'd 
envisioned. he said that Anakin went from being potentially way more powerful 
than the Emperor to significantly less so, because of his injuries. Lucas 
actually said that because Anakin had lost his legs and hand, his command of 
the Force was lessened! I think he felt that the loss of body parts reduced the 
amount of available space for the Midchlorians, and the reduced bugs meant 
reduced powers. 

Can you believe that? He actually equated command of the Force with the state 
of one's physical body. That belies the standard held beliefs of powers of the 
mind/soul as being independent of the body, as well as his own mythos, where 
small people like yoda said that physical makeup didn't matter. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:01:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 






Bosco, I was actually able to let Jar Jar slide as I did the Confederacy people 
(both fairly blatant stereotyping). My aww, F*CK NAW! moment was when they 
explained the secret of the Force as a bug in one's bloodstream. As I left the 
theater, I recall calling out to the manager, I want my money back. 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Bosco Bosco  ironpi...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The 
prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that 
story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know 
exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire 
but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some 
point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin 
to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I 
realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a 
mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train 
wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or 
disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the 
fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of 
it. 

B 


--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  wrote: 




From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 2:48 PM 





Bosco, I'm sending this to a long-time SW fan, to get a reaction to this. I'll 
let you know what it is. 



On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bosco Bosco  ironpi...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








The only Star Wars announcement I want to hear is that George Lucas has hired 
somebody competent like Peter Jackson or Christopher Nolan or hell, anyone 
else, to rewrite, redirect and remake from scratch the entire saga from start 
to finish. Then and only then is there a shot at redemption for his utter and 
complete destruction of what should have been the greatest science fiction 
legacy in history. 

Bosco 

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
Subject: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 12:47 AM 






This deleted scene with Vader reaching out to Luke seems pretty cool. It sounds 
as if it has more of the grim feeling of The Empire Strikes Back. I don't 
have a Blu-Ray player yet, but not sure I'd buy this even if I did. I have at 
least two versions Lucas has released over the years--and I'm not even an 
ardent fan. I wonder how many different versions UPF's (Ultra Passionate Fans) 
might have? 

* 
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/111/1112481p1.html 

Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 



The Star Wars Blu-ray release is now as official as it can be, as none other 
than George Lucas announced the films were coming to the format. I wish I 
could say it's coming out this year, but it's coming out next year, Lucas said 
to the packed audience at the Main Event at Star Wars Celebration V today, 
which was moderated by Jon Stewart . 

Speaking about what will be included, Lucas said, They'll be different kinds 
of additional material, adding, I think you've seen enough behind the scenes 
[material] for a lifetime. There's some really good material that will be 
included in there, [including] more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet

Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Really?! I didn't know that. I was so impressed with that plane's hovering 
ability and maneuverability. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:12:54 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship 






I saw the same program, Keith, and a few others, famously including a segment 
of Heavy Metal on the History Channel. The pilot they interviewed was talking 
up the ship so lovingly that I recall thinking that he and it needed to get a 
room together somewhere. A few months later, as I was logging out of one of my 
Warmmail accounts, a story on the MSN homepage drew my eye. 

Pilot Stuck in Cockpit 

The F-22's canopy had a problem deploying (which later records showed to be a 
fairly endemic issue throughout the F-22 fleet), and the pilot inside, stuck 
for over two hours, was wearing a murderous look on his face. As I chuckled, I 
noted his name. 

It was the same pilot from the Heavy Metal segment. 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 









I only know about the F-22 through the PBS special that details the competition 
between Lockheed and Boeing for that Joint Strikeforce Fighter. The program's 
pretty cool, and the plane seemed impressed. Give us the skinny, please... 




- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 12:19:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] US Army Orders Lockheed-Martin’s Mystery Airship 






Mr Worf, you know what the best job on the planet is right now? 

A Lockheed-Martin lobbyist. They manage to wrangle corporate welfare for their 
company without fail, no matter how magnificently L-M's projects may fail. (I 
refer you all to the F-22 debacle, because it was as hush-hush as this seems to 
be.) 


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  wrote: 








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realistic tests of a hybrid airship–a concept that dates back many decades but 
that is just now being tried at a significant scale. The Skunk Works had 
secretly built the craft and hoped for a quiet first flight at its Palmdale, 
Calif., facility, but a few passers-by noticed the strange object in the sky. 
The Defense Dept. is showing interest in two categories of airships–those that 
can carry large cargo at low altitude, exemplified by the Defense Advanced 
Research Projects Agency (Darpa) Walrus program, and those that can operate in 
high-altitude low-wind conditions and remain on station for long periods of 
time. The configuration of the Skunks Works ship indicates it is the former–a 
hybrid heavy-load carrier. The interest is across the services and the notional 
applications are diverse, ranging from logistics–delivery of an integrated 
fighting unit within theater, for example–to sensor, communications and even 
laser-weapon relay platforms. But airships aren’t there yet. Major unresolved 
issues could derail the airship dream, such as their traditional delicate 
ground handling, and possibly prohibitive economics and vulnerability. These 
issues have been debated endlessly on paper, and now Lockheed Martin, a prime 
airship proponent, is investing to seek real answers. 

Recentlys! U.S. Army LEMV Program ordered this 21-day endurance, 20K Altitude 
Hybrid LTA for AFPAK: 

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A hybrid airship derives most of its lift by being filled with a 
lighter-than-air gas such as helium. Overall, it is heavier than air and gains 
the final 20% or so of lift by flying like an aircraft, but with slow takeoff 
and landing speeds that allow operations from short unprepared strips. The 
Skunk Works made the first flight of its “P-791″ testbed on Jan. 31 at its 
facility on the Palmdale Air Force Plant 42 airport. The manned flight was 
about a 5-min. circuit around the airport in the morning and appeared to be 
successful. The company did not announce or want to discuss the flight. The 
P-791 is not part of a government contract, but rather an independent research 
and development project by the Skunk Works to better understand airship 
capabilities and technologies, such as materials, a company official says. 
However, it may also be a quarter-scale prototype of a heavy-lifter. 

TO GAIN MORE SPAN TO ACT LIKE a wing, the P-791 is three pressurized lobes 
joined together. An observer of the first flight says it was about the size of 
three Fuji blimps blended together. The Fuji

Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Johnson
I agree. I too felt the shift with Return of the Jedi. I had issues with a lot 
in that movie. for one, had I written it, there's no way I'd have had Vader 
change so quickly. When he first takes Luke to the Emperor, he says he is your 
Master, my son, then after a hurt Luke is taken off, Vader wanders over to a 
railing and looks out into the night as if he feels bad! I remember in the 
theatre saying What the hell? Why is he so maudlin all of a sudden?. 
I kept thinking there had to have been prior interactions between Vader and 
Luke. Else, his quick influx of paternal attachment just made no sense. I also 
felt the climactic scene where Vader attacked the Emperor wasn't earned. Again, 
i just didn't see enough time given to justify that. I mean, Vader was a guy 
who had killed children, tried to kill his Master, and now all of a sudden he's 
sentimental?? 

And Sith, I completely agree. He watches Mace defeated, then drops to his knees 
and swears allegiance? Completely illogical! I still can't get how the Sith can 
so easily mask their true selves around the Jedi either. The Emperor and Anakin 
were all but twirling their moustaches, and Yoda, Mace, and the rest couldn't 
sense that at all? WTF? 

Let's not even start about how Anakin could have a suite apartment with his 
pregnant wife right under the Jedi's noses, nor how none of the medi-scans 
detected the presence of twins. And what's this dying of a broken heart crap? 


- Original Message - 
From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:33:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 






Thanks. I try. I love writing. Too bad there's no money in it and loads and 
loads of soul wrenching work. 

Jar Jar wasn't the big issue for me, I just recall him being the first sign 
that it was time to insert the fork in the corpse of the legacy. The list of 
things that is wrong actually starts with Return of the Jedi and starts with 
the ewoks. It goes downhill from there. Revenge of the Sith was for me the 
deepest insult. The bad acting, the crappy direction, the totally unbelievable 
final conversion from Anakin to Vader with all it's sophomoric character 
motivation was a full and total betrayal. Total bummer. 

I spend a lot of time wishing someone would do it better. I'll bet it gets 
done. I hope in my life time. The fact that hollywood is stuck in recycle mode 
actual gives me hope for this one. 



--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 9:47 AM 






This was a really well written little e-mail. You managed to convey your 
feelings very vividly. I agree and felt the same way. Unlike Kurtz, i think 
prequels can be assume ideas. I love backstories, and like you, thought the 
backstory of the Star Wars universe would be great. And like you, I sat in the 
theatre and was stunned at what I saw. I hated that the entire first movie was 
wasted on Baby Vader, especially because the young actor was horrible! That Pod 
race--WTF? Midchlorians??? Jar Jar was the least of my issues. 
And note how with the first prequel movie, Lucas spent most of the film killing 
legions of robots, but very view living beings died. it all showed how he'd 
moved from films that kids and families could enjoy, but that still felt adult, 
to really kiddie level films, that reminded me of nothing so much as cartoons 
like G.I. Joe, where no one died. 
The body count went up in Revenge of the Sith, but by then so much damage had 
been done... 


- Original Message - 
From: Bosco Bosco ironpi...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:44:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Lucas Announces Star Wars Blu-ray 






I'm curious. I have a really strong reaction to every film, post empire. The 
prequels are particularly hard for me because I had been waiting for that 
story to be told from the minute I became aware that it would be. I dont know 
exactly when it was but sometime around 12 or 13 probably after seeing Empire 
but before Jedi I began to hear talk about Lucas telling the backstory at some 
point. I had waited my entire life, multiple decades, to experience the Anakin 
to Vader story. Sometime around the moment JarJar Binks appeared on screen, I 
realized I was gonna get burned. Somehow, I just couldnt let go, like a 
mentally debilitated rubbernecker at a fenderbender, I watched the entire train 
wreck unfold. Nothing has ever been as artistically devastating or 
disappointing. What Lucas did to his legacy is criminal. What he did to the 
fans is worse. There are moments where I actually wish I had never seen any of 
it. 

B 

--- On Sun, 8/15/10, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com wrote: 



From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com

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