[SMW-devel] [Security vulnerability] Log4j zero-day exploit info for CirrusSearch and Semantic MediaWiki ElasticStore

2021-12-13 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Heads up everyone using (S)MW with ElasticSearch! Markus Forwarded Message Subject: [MediaWiki-l] [Security vulnerability] Log4j zero-day exploit info for CirrusSearch and Semantic MediaWiki ElasticStore Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:46:40 -0600 From: Jeffrey Wang Reply-To

Re: [SMW-devel] Maintain order of property values

2020-09-24 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Michael, The data model of SMW never considered "insertion order" as a piece of information that should be recorded. In fact, a normal SQL RDBMs like MariaDB has no obligation to return tuples in a specific order unless there is an ordering clause in the query. Same for SPARQL. Relying on

Re: [SMW-devel] Question regarding the policy of freezing SMW 3.0 milestone issues

2018-09-03 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, In a rare response to this email list, I have to completely back James here. The request sounds a bit too much as if we are talking about a rescheduling of Ubuntu or some other large project. It is important to keep perspective here. For small projects like this, the simple rule is that t

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 3.0: Rework List format?

2017-06-15 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, Just briefly: I support the suggested changes. Much of the current code has been kept for legacy reasons and one can surely streamline and systematize things now using all the experience gathered over the years. Cheers, Markus On 14.06.2017 22:12, Stephan Gambke via Semediawiki-devel w

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Semantic MediaWiki 2.5.0 released

2017-03-15 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Impressive feature list. Congratulations to all SMW devs and contributors on this achievement! Cheers, Markus On 15.03.2017 17:08, [[kgh]] wrote: > Hello everyone, > > we are happy to announce the immediate availability of the Semantic > MediaWiki 2.5.0 release: [0,1]. This is a big release br

Re: [SMW-devel] MediaWiki:Smw_uri_blacklist purpose?

2016-09-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear Andreas, The purpose of these was to ensure that the RDF export of SMW is well-behaved and also valid in OWL. Many tools would find it hard to digest if you would declare a property to be, e.g., a subproperty of rdfs:range. Unfortunately, rdf and rdfs in particular contain a lot of things

Re: [SMW-devel] Call for Papers Semantic Web

2016-07-06 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, I would not consider this journal for publication. Warning signs: "Google-based impact factor", special issues on random topics that have no clear focus, missing or unknown guest editors, editorial board members unknown in respective community, prominent publication fees, rather weak paper

Re: [SMW-devel] Set a SMW property programmatically in PHP?

2015-06-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 29.06.2015 17:16, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi Jason, > > If you're talking about making a change to the semantic data of a page > that is not reflected in that page's wikitext, that sounds like a bad > idea - the new data would be removed as soon as the page was edited and > saved again. Indeed, on

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Ontologies

2015-05-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi John, Sounds interesting, but I don't think I fully understand the functionality yet. In particular, how is the data that is thus recorded related to the DC vocabulary? For example, dc:title is a property with the URI http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title. Is this URI then used in the RDF e

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo's page values link

2015-04-06 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 06.04.2015 03:57, Yaron Koren wrote: > I'm guessing that it's possible, yes. I hadn't really considered that > possibility, though there certainly is an argument for doing it that > way. I should note that "Browse properties", too, shows up for pages > that contain no properties - for those name

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Sorting results

2015-03-20 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Bernhard, Why not just define a Number property for such pages and use this for sorting? If this does not work for you, then you could set the SORTKEY of the pages to something like 42 (with sufficiently many 0s to cover all numbers). Cheers, Markus On 20.03.2015 15:47, Yaron Koren wr

Re: [SMW-devel] dumpRDF.php script in SMW 2.0 fails, problems with subobjects and redirects causes jobqueue to loop

2014-11-11 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Daniel, On 10.11.2014 20:31, Herzig, Daniel (AIFB) wrote: > > Problem #1: export of RDF fails with "Data for a subobject of PageA > cannot be added to PageB'" Yes, I encountered the same problem recently. The problem is the same when using Special:ExportRDF and possibly also when trying to us

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.referata.org vs. smw.org (Was: Exclude specific pages from query or #Concept?)

2014-11-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 10.11.2014 17:59, James HK wrote: > Hi, > >> Well, smw.referata.com is the community wiki and smw.org is the >> official website of the extension. But maybe it is time to re-consider >> if that separation is really that useful? > > I wasn't aware that such distinction actually exists and users a

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to provide a TemplateRepository (call for input)?

2014-11-03 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi James, I like the idea, but maybe one should start with something that is more like a library of design patterns for SMW. Maybe you also had this in mind. There are endless amounts of types of content, and even person data could be specified in a wide range of ways, but there are maybe just

[SMW-devel] mStripState (Was: Ask query in extension)

2014-11-02 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Frank, hi Mark, hi all, The post below reminded me of how incredibly useful mStripState is when implementing parser hooks. It can be used to unstrip things (like ) but also to insert things like (e.g. to insert unsafe HTML from within a parser function). It seems that there is no documente

Re: [SMW-devel] New (S)MW-based site that might be of interest

2014-10-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
English now, owing to the history of the data model). Special:Export is also freely available. Cheers, Markus > > On 29.10.2014 19:03, Markus Krötzsch wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just finished work on a new website for my research group (and maybe >> others). The site might

[SMW-devel] New (S)MW-based site that might be of interest

2014-10-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi all, I just finished work on a new website for my research group (and maybe others). The site might be of interest, since it showcases quite a few techniques in terms of skinning, customization, and SMW-usage: https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/ The main things to watch out for: * Chameleon sk

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to replace the "old" Vector skin?

2014-10-21 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, On 21.10.2014 03:51, James HK wrote: ... > > PS: As far as I understand, the user of smw.org would be able to > switch to the "old" Vector skin as registered user. > Let me come back to this, since this is also important for planning the transition. The key question is: Can we use Bootstr

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to replace the "old" Vector skin?

2014-10-20 Thread Markus Krötzsch
e like and should be easy to fix >> (patches welcome). >> >> Cheers, >> Stephan >> >> On 17 October 2014 10:40, Markus Krötzsch >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Good idea. Chameleon is great (also because of the nice Bootst

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.org to replace the "old" Vector skin?

2014-10-17 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, Good idea. Chameleon is great (also because of the nice Bootstrap styling that becomes available on all pages). I am using it right now to build a site (to be published soon). A big advantage with Chameleon is that most customizations happen in CSS or by inserting HTML into the page throug

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

2014-10-13 Thread Markus Krötzsch
doubt it (the earlier presence of spurious properties about illegal property values should not have affected the jobs). -- Markus On 13.10.2014 11:29, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > Hi again, > > I have isolated a single specimen of an infinite job cycle on my wiki. > The details are atta

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

2014-10-13 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi again, I have isolated a single specimen of an infinite job cycle on my wiki. The details are attached (I hope the attachment makes it to the list as well). In short, the loop is triggered by an update job on a redirect page. For some reason, the update job creates another instance of a new

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Embedded Special:RunQuery creates strange charaters

2014-10-08 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, FWIW, these "strange characters" are placeholders that MediaWiki inserts into the text instead of "special" content (such as , and other tag-based functions). MW inserts these markers early on in the parsing process (in a phase called "stripping"), and most extension parser functions will

[SMW-devel] New extension for automatic page creation

2014-09-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear SMW users, I have created a small extension, AutoCreatePage [1], that makes it possible to create "helper" pages by adding parser functions to one page. I think this is especailly useful for SMW (and SF) users, so I post it here. How it works You insert wikitext like the fo

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW.org is down again

2014-05-26 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 26/05/14 14:27, Michael Erdmann wrote: > to whom it may concern. Thanks, seems to happen whenever I am on a plane ;-) (and also the others who can fix it seem to have been busy). The problem is unusually frequent recently :-( Markus > -- > > Dr. Michael Erdmann|erdm...@diqa-pm.com |

Re: [SMW-devel] semantic-mediawiki.org is down

2014-05-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
s for the hint. In fact, we already have a robot that alerts us. However, someone still has to restart the machine in this case, which can take a while depending on who is awake/at the keyboard. :-) Markus > > On May 7, 2014, at 4:59 AM, Markus Krötzsch > wrote: > >> On 07

Re: [SMW-devel] semantic-mediawiki.org is down

2014-05-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 07/05/14 10:49, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > Hi, > > semantic-mediawiki.org seens to be down... Rebootet right after your email, and running again since (I did this a few times in recent days already; cause of problem remains unclear). Markus ---

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Wikimania 2014

2014-03-31 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Bernhard, Thanks for pushing this. I will prepare another Wikidata-related submssion and I am also happy to support any SMW-related events (I will certainly be in London). Best regards, Markus On 31/03/14 09:29, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > Hi, > > I just prepared a first draft of a submissi

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-19 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Ok, I give in: +1 to "2.0" :-) Markus On 18/01/14 19:27, Nischay Nahata wrote: > I didn't follow the full discussion but 2.0 makes more sense to me. > > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:15 PM, James HK > wrote: > > Hi, > > >From a visibility point of vi

Re: [SMW-devel] Making SMW semver.org compliant

2014-01-17 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 17/01/14 15:09, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi, > > Markus - are you suggesting retroactively referring to, say, version > 1.5.1 as version 5.1 - with a corresponding change to all the > documentation, etc.? Or just jumping straight from version 1.9 to > version 10.0? I'm assuming the latter, but in ei

Re: [SMW-devel] Making SMW semver.org compliant

2014-01-17 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, +1 to dropping the initial "1." that will never ever change. However, since the 1 was unchanged since we are out of beta, it seems to me that we are currently treating the second number as our major version. In other words, we are at version 9.0.1 and the next version should be 10.0.0. Thi

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

2013-11-12 Thread Markus Krötzsch
27;s perfectly fine! > But throwing a brick through a window, is not. > /jmc > > On 11/10/2013 11:42 PM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: >> Hi John, >> >> The main point of my previous email was to explain that SMW does not >> implement the CWA (or OWA). The terms CWA and

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

2013-11-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
t; [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~drummond/presentations/OWA.pdf > <http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Edrummond/presentations/OWA.pdf> > > On 11/10/2013 2:33 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: >> On 10/11/13 10:43, Niklas Laxström wrote: >>> What is OWA? >> >> John refers t

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

2013-11-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 10/11/13 13:06, Jonathan Lang wrote: > On Nov 10, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Markus Krötzsch > wrote: > >> On 10/11/13 10:43, Niklas Laxström wrote: >>> What is OWA? >> >> John refers to the "Open World Assumption". This is an informal concept >&

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

2013-11-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 10/11/13 10:43, Niklas Laxström wrote: > What is OWA? John refers to the "Open World Assumption". This is an informal concept used in knowledge representation to describe the assumption that statements that are not made are "unknown" rather than "false". This is contrasted with the "Closed W

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: Technical documentation, installation instructions and release notes

2013-11-05 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Jeroen, different answers for different questions: +1 to have detailed release notes in the source code (and nowhere else). The wiki will always have news items and SMW version pages that describe the main changes in a release; the release note file in the source can be linked from the wiki

Re: [SMW-devel] Moving SMW development to GitHub

2013-11-02 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Jeroen, making a writable secondary copy on GitHub is fine. It first sounded as it you wanted to abolish our gerrit repo completely (I think this is what people have replied to). We can also discuss this, but that will need a bit more time. The secondary GitHub repo will be a nive way to fi

Re: [SMW-devel] Moving SMW development to GitHub

2013-11-02 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Jeroen, thanks for your proposal. It's very useful to revisit our infrastructure from time to time. Since people seem quite critical so far, we should probably have a bit more discussion To be honest, I think that the (positive as well as negative) impact of this decision is not as big as o

[SMW-devel] Fwd: Wikidata Toolkit: call for feedback/support

2013-09-30 Thread Markus Krötzsch
ll for feedback/support Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:11:11 +0100 From: Markus Krötzsch Reply-To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Dear Wikidatanions (*), I have just drafted a little proposal for creating more tools for external people to wor

Re: [SMW-devel] No response for inline query with RDF store

2013-09-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Kai, On 10/09/13 19:22, Hüner Kai wrote: > Dear SMW developers, > > I already posted this question to the SMW user group, but maybe it is more > development related. > Sorry for double posting, but I really have no idea how to proceed. > > I want to use SMW (MW: 1.21.1, SMW: 1.8.0.5) together

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW + Selenium

2013-09-21 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 21/09/13 00:06, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > If these tests are broken and no one is maintaining them, I suggest we > remove them from master. They can be resurrected from version history if > anyone cares to fix them. > +1 if nobody uses them right now (I don't) Markus -

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

2013-08-08 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 08/08/13 13:18, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > I concur with James on the points he made. > > The approach taken would make more sense if SMW was a plug in to PS, as > this is what the code makes it out to be. I'd rather see the code be > part of PS, and have it only be registered there is SMW

Re: [SMW-devel] Coveralls.io support

2013-08-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Great, thanks for setting this up. Markus On 07/08/13 08:36, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > Our TravisCI builds [0] now run code coverage and report the result to > coveralls.io [1]. This makes it easy for anyone to > view the current coverage level, and to keep track of e

Re: [SMW-devel] Showing triples in SMW externally added via SPARQL

2013-08-06 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Michael, what you would like to do is probably not possible in SMW right now, but it might be possible to get it working. When using an RDF store, SMW stores (copies of) its data there and queries the store to obtain result lists for #ask. However, all simple data lookups are still done thro

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Replacement for Wiki of the Month Coordinator

2013-06-21 Thread Markus Krötzsch
, and then let her/him/them consider new voting approaches if they think it makes sense. Markus > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Markus Krötzsch > mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>> > wrote: > > Hi Desiree, > > first to the second

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Replacement for Wiki of the Month Coordinator

2013-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Desiree, first to the second part of your message: this is really great news, congratulations! The not-so-great news (though it hardly matches the other) is that we now need somebody to step up as WOTM coordinator. Before we worry about that, let me first thank you for your work -- you did

Re: [SMW-devel] URIResolver's urly URLs in 4store

2013-05-14 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 11/05/13 20:35, Yury Katkov wrote: > When I use 4store as database for properties my cyrillic URLs are very > urly. Here is one of examples: > > http://127.0.0.1/wikivote/index.php/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:URIResolver/-D0-A1-D0-B2-D0-BE-D0-B9-D1-81-D1-82-D0-B2-D0-BE

Re: [SMW-devel] Any chance to get special properties to the factbox?

2013-02-24 Thread Markus Krötzsch
also modified the markup at runtime which > results in ugly tagging code for the user. > > Are there any functional alternatives to inject an edit-action to provide > automated semantic data values, which will stay after > triggering SMW_refreshData.php? > > c u steve > &g

Re: [SMW-devel] Any chance to get special properties to the factbox?

2013-02-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 23/02/13 17:36, Lists wrote: > Hello Markus and the others, > > > we are doing this in a "SMWStore::updateDataBefore" - handler. The property > shows up in the browse function not in the "normal" article view. If this > isn't functional how can we alter an existing property value with this > han

[SMW-devel] Text is the new String

2013-02-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear developers, change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/50488 merges the String and Text datatypes on all levels (user labels, datatype ids, PHP objects). This means the following for your future code: * Use SMWDIBlob instead of SMWDIString * Use '_txt' instead of '_str' For SMW 1.9, '_str' and

Re: [SMW-devel] Any chance to get special properties to the factbox?

2013-02-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 20/02/13 14:09, Lists wrote: > > Hello, > > is there any chance to get special properties (meta) into the factbox? The Factbox is populated while parsing the page. Every meta property that is added at this time will appear in the Factbox. As a matter of principle, meta properties that are not

[SMW-devel] SMWSQLStore2 support will be dropped

2013-02-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, this email is to confirm that the old database management code "SQLStore2" (which was superseded by "SQLStore3" in SMW 1.8) will be dropped in future SMW versions. This has been on our public roadmap for some time -- I am just sending this to make everyone aware of this to avoid surp

Re: [SMW-devel] Print requests in SMWDescription

2013-02-06 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, On 05/02/13 15:21, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > (Question mainly aimed at Markus, though if you have any idea, I'd be > happy to hear it) > > Why do all SMWDescription objects have an array of print requests? > > In my mind a query consists out of > > * A number of SMWDescription objects s

[SMW-devel] [News] SMW 1.8 released

2012-12-02 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki version SMW 1.8 [1]. A record number of people have contributed to this release, and a large number of changes have been made, both visible and internal. Major new features of SMW 1.8 include: * New data storage: more

Re: [SMW-devel] MediaWiki compatibility for 1.9

2012-12-02 Thread Markus Krötzsch
+1 for dropping 1.18 in 1.9. Markus On 02/12/12 02:43, James HK wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks. You read my mind, I was just about to write a similar email as > it happens 1.18 already dropped from the official MW supporting list > [1]. > > [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download > > Cheers, > > On 1

Re: [SMW-devel] [News] SMW 1.8 RC1 available

2012-11-30 Thread Markus Krötzsch
( $localName ) ); > > $parts = explode( '-23', $dbKey, 2 ); > if ( count( $parts ) == 2 ) { > > Now that bugs are fixed, am looking forward to finally try out > subobjects and what else the new SMW has to offer! :) > > The site: http://www.culture.si/ - powered

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] s13n stands for semantification

2012-11-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 18/11/12 13:30, Yury Katkov wrote: > Ok, I understand that: the choice is between to store or not to store > the source of the data by grouping the triples in graphs. Of course > it's up to core developers to choose. > Another set of questions: > 1) how the s13n's programming interfaces for exte

Re: [SMW-devel] Query formats min and max

2012-11-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 23/11/12 10:15, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > >> Interesting. How does that work? > > Use the source, Markus... :) > > https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-SemanticResultFormats/blob/master/formats/math/SRF_Math.php#L83 Not very helpful. I know I can dig into source code to find o

Re: [SMW-devel] Query formats min and max

2012-11-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
. Markus > - > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Markus Krötzsch > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to ask about this: >> >> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Max_format >> >> I am afraid to say

Re: [SMW-devel] Query formats min and max

2012-11-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 22/11/12 14:44, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > Markus, I agree with you that in most cases you're better off doing a > sorted query, and think this should be reflected in the documentation. > I however would not be to quick to conclude the max format is > completely useless. For one thing it s

Re: [SMW-devel] [News] SMW 1.8 RC1 available

2012-11-22 Thread Markus Krötzsch
entioned above; don't try it yet) > > Cheers > Neill. > > On 22/11/12 10:00, Neill Mitchell wrote: >> Hi Markus. >> >> This is great news. Thanks to all involved! >> >> I'll run it through my regression test suite over the next couple of d

[SMW-devel] Query formats min and max

2012-11-22 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, I would like to ask about this: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Max_format I am afraid to say that this idea seems to be fundamentally broken. The above page seriously suggests to find the largest population number in the wiki by querying for a list of *all cities with and without

[SMW-devel] [News] SMW 1.8 RC1 available

2012-11-21 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, SMW 1.8 is close to its first stable release. We have now packaged a Release Candidate for download [1]. If all goes well, this will become SMW 1.8.0 in about a week. As usual, the package includes the required version of Validator. Major new features include: * New data storage: mo

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] s13n stands for semantification

2012-11-16 Thread Markus Krötzsch
xible, but some storage overhead. (2) We do not use graphs but bind this information to properties: some properties are governed by page contents, other properties are governed in other ways. Less flexible, but no storage overhead. Cheers, Markus > > - > Yury Katkov, WikiVote >

Re: [SMW-devel] s13n stands for semantification

2012-11-16 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 16/11/12 11:27, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I talked about the topic of semanticfication of the MediaWiki > extension with a lot of people in SMWCon and saw the great interest to > this topic. > > We have tried to describe the problem on this page: > http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/

Re: [SMW-devel] Preparing the SMW 1.8 release

2012-11-11 Thread Markus Krötzsch
tore2'; in your LocalSettings (after enableSemantics(), or it will complain that the class SMWSparqlStore is not known). Cheers, Markus On 11/11/12 17:01, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > Dear developers, > > after two weeks of intense bugfixing, we are now getting close to the > actual SM

[SMW-devel] Preparing the SMW 1.8 release

2012-11-11 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear developers, after two weeks of intense bugfixing, we are now getting close to the actual SMW 1.8 release. We will probably have another release candidate packaged soon, but as developers you might want to try the git version now, especially to check if it runs with your own code and data.

Re: [SMW-devel] SIO - Having trouble querying Semantic Internal Objects

2012-11-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 10/11/12 19:05, Marcelo Chiaradía wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > I finally discover what was wrong. It seems that if you defined your the > property in the "#set_internal:", and you start it with a lower case, > and you create the property after that, for some reason the property > created start with an

Re: [SMW-devel] Help with ask queries - using intermediate results

2012-11-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
r which you don't need s: [[property1.property2::Value]] is short for [[property1::[[property2::Value But this won't work if you have more conditions to check in the subquery (e.g.., categories in your case). Markus > 2012/11/9 Markus Krötzsch <mailto:mar...@semantic-media

Re: [SMW-devel] Help with ask queries - using intermediate results

2012-11-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 09/11/12 09:37, Yury Katkov wrote: > Well you can also use template format if you don't like subqueries... It > would also help you to use the intermediate results. That would let you "see" the intermediate results (otherwise, there is no way to find out which of, say, the "has C" values was "

Re: [SMW-devel] Help with ask queries - using intermediate results

2012-11-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 07/11/12 13:44, Marcelo Chiaradía wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm trying to make an #ask query, using intermediates results to do more > queries within. > > I have this scenario: > > I have several pages of a category A. Some of them are related to other > pages of category B, through a "has B" pr

Re: [SMW-devel] Exhibit

2012-10-28 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 27/10/12 22:21, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > As most of you probably know, the Exhibit result printer is currently > rather broken and the code does not really lend itself to be maintained > or fixed. I suggest just removing it altogether from SRF. +1 If it does not work, there is no point

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.8 and SMW core extension compatibility

2012-10-28 Thread Markus Krötzsch
gt; makes that impossible, regardless of whether it's SD or SMW doing > the work of filtering. If anyone knows differently about that, > though, please let me know.) > > -Yaron > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Markus Krötzsch > <mail

Re: [SMW-devel] Virtuoso and special characters

2012-10-23 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi, this problem is not know (to me). A recent bugfix (bug 37575) corrected an encoding issue (char encoding not sent when calling RDF store; could lead to misunderstandings on the side of the store). You can try if this fixes your problem. Testing this can be done by replacing a single file i

Re: [SMW-devel] database tables

2012-10-22 Thread Markus Krötzsch
on't be shy to announce your prototype/thesis to the list when you have something published. Where are you writing your thesis? Markus > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Markus Krötzsch > mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>> > wrote: > > O

Re: [SMW-devel] database tables

2012-10-22 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 22/10/12 19:55, Mauricio Etchevest wrote: > Hi! > > I´m looking for documentation about how SMW store the data. How SMW > store triples ? > > I search for documentation of the database tables and I found this: > http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Database_Tables > > This is all the documentation

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Help translating SMW extensions

2012-10-22 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 21/10/12 11:13, Federico Leva wrote: > Hello, > > Markus Krötzsch, 19/10/2012 08:07: >> Great, thanks a lot. I hope Nemo (Federico; CC) has seen this too. > > Yes, I've seen it and I've just started assigning requests to Karsten. > Note, however, that

Re: [SMW-devel] Is smw-import-URI that corresponds to local page available through parser function?

2012-10-18 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 18/10/12 23:02, Gregor Hagedorn wrote: > SMW can be supplied with Mediawiki:SMW import pages that define that a > local page has a corresponding global URI. RDF export uses this > information. > > Is that information available to be evaluated and displayed from > inside the wiki (especially thro

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Help translating SMW extensions

2012-10-18 Thread Markus Krötzsch
way, this reply will reach both lists now. > > [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36608 > > > Am 18.10.2012 10:06, schrieb Markus Krötzsch: >> Dear SMW users & developers, >> >> we enjoy an awesome internationalisation support from translatewiki.net, >> whi

[SMW-devel] Code documentation online again

2012-10-18 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear developers, after a little downtime due to our server removal, the SMW&friends code documentation is live again: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/doc/ The docs should be updated once a day. Please let me know if any other extension should be included there. Cheers, Markus

[SMW-devel] Help translating SMW extensions

2012-10-18 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear SMW users & developers, we enjoy an awesome internationalisation support from translatewiki.net, which ceaselessly translates MW extensions (and more) into a huge number of languages. To work smoothly, this also needs some help from the user/developer community, since translators are some

[SMW-devel] [News] SMWCon Fall 2012 Program

2012-10-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, the program for the upcoming SMWCon in Cologne is becoming more and more stable [1]. Most talks should be at their almost final location now. There are quite a few highlights that are worth mentioning: * We have two exciting keynote talks by Denny Vrandecic (Wikimedia Germany e.V.) a

Re: [SMW-devel] Strange handling for special properties in SMWSQLStore3 DB design?

2012-10-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
many there are (now we have two), and also how many other page-type property values pages typically have. I suggest to simply ignore the issue for now and to remove all mentioning of SF properties as soon as SF has no such properties any more. Markus > > On Wed, Oct 10, 201

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] [News] Google, Microsoft, Facebook And Others Launch SMW site

2012-10-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 09/10/12 16:01, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > this will be the SMW of the year, then ;-) Well, we will have to see if interesting uses of properties happen there (I did not investigate the content yet). For now, the case mainly illustrates that SMW is among the basic extensions to start new MW p

Re: [SMW-devel] Strange handling for special properties in SMWSQLStore3 DB design?

2012-10-10 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 09/10/12 18:12, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi, > > Nischay - thanks for that set of links. I don't think any of them cover > the thinking behind the design decisions, but they're still all good to > know about. > > Markus - thanks for all the clarifications. I was sure that the extra > tables were don

[SMW-devel] [News] Google, Microsoft, Facebook And Others Launch SMW site

2012-10-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, as TechCrunch reports [1]: " A number of leading browser vendors and other tech companies, including Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe, Facebook, HP, Nokia, Mozilla, Opera and the W3C, just announced the launch of the Web Platform Docs project at WebPlatform.org. The project aims to cr

Re: [SMW-devel] Strange handling for special properties in SMWSQLStore3 DB design?

2012-10-09 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 08/10/12 15:44, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi, > > I'm finally trying out SMWSQLStore3, and figuring out how to get my > extensions compatible with it, so I'm looking at the new table structure > for the first time. > > First of all, is there any documentation about the design decisions that > went in

[SMW-devel] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Call to eliminate sajax

2012-10-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Developers, the below email is most relevant for developers of SF and SRF (slideshow). It may also be of general interest to developers using sajax in private code. Cheers, Markus Original Message Subject: [Wikitech-l] Call to eliminate sajax Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:18:48

[SMW-devel] [News] Join us for SMWCon & present your work

2012-09-19 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Dear all, SMWCon 2012 in Cologne is approaching quickly [1]. Hot topics this time will be Wikidata (and its relationship with SMW), performance and search, but also some very interesting new applications of SMW. We will also have a rare local concentration of SMW developers to discuss current

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.8 and SMW core extension compatibility

2012-09-18 Thread Markus Krötzsch
The current triple store support maintains all SQL tables as well. So the data can be taken from there in any case. The above approach (listen to changes to maintain your own tables) would also work in any case. But I agree that all of this is not so easy to realise and not something that can b

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 1.8 and SMW core extension compatibility

2012-09-17 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 16/09/12 21:28, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi James, > > You make a valid point about the importance of SF and SD supporting > SQLStore3 in the near future. I plan to add support for the new database > structure to those extensions, as well as to Semantic Internal Objects, > which also has hardcoded c

Re: [SMW-devel] 4store issue

2012-09-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 06/09/12 00:33, Samuel Rose wrote: > using: > > MediaWiki 1.19.2 > Semantic Bundle (Version 20120327) > 4store v1.1.4 > > When I try to update or create a page with RDF data, 4store returns > the following error: > > Sep 5 23:09:47 holocene 4store[3752]: update.c:80 error: syntax > error,

Re: [SMW-devel] GSoC on performance... any results?

2012-09-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 05/09/12 04:52, Laurent Alquier wrote: > Hi > > Do anyone know if any results have been published about the kind of > performance improvements we can expect from this work? Many independent improvements have been done. Most notably regarding performance: * significantly reduced SMW write acti

[SMW-devel] How to get property values from SMW (Was: The right type for storing IP addresses)

2012-08-07 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 06/08/12 15:59, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi Jeroen! > > Each piece of programming documentation is as valuable as gold! Please do. > I've spent about two days recently before I figured out these two > lines that allow to want the value of the semantic property. > > $params = array ("[[Pagename]]",

Re: [SMW-devel] Triple Store URIs: index.php/Page or index.php?title=Page

2012-08-02 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 01/08/12 00:57, Benedikt Kämpgen wrote: > Hello, > > I have connected a wiki to an Open Virtuoso triple store as documented in [1]. > > The wikis URIs have the form "...index.php?title=Page", e.g., [2]. > > Yet, in the triple store, URIs are stored in the form "...index.php/Page", > e.g., [3],

Re: [SMW-devel] Bug in concept-conditions ?

2012-07-30 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 30/07/12 11:55, Roland Wohlfahrt wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have 2 concepts in my semantic mediawiki: > > concept 1: > > [[Kategorie:Kontakt]] [[Position::Amtsleiter]] OR [[Kategorie:Kontakt]] > [[Position::Amtsleiterin]] > > > concept 2: > > [[Kategorie:Kontakt]] [[Position::Amtsleiter||Amtsleit

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result caching and invalidation (Jeroen De Dauw)

2012-07-27 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 27/07/12 05:12, jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: > I'm sorry, I meant to say that Concepts cache queries, so it suggests > there's a mechanism driving the creation of Concept pages. It'd be > interesting to hear about that mechanism and whether it can be used with > Concept pages in SMW. Concepts

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result caching and invalidation

2012-07-26 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 26/07/12 17:22, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > > On the other hand, it would be even more useful to cache all results > per (sub)query, ignoring the limit > > This can reduce computing overlapping results, but on the other hand is > likely to compute results we'll never actually use. And it m

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result caching and invalidation

2012-07-26 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 26/07/12 16:03, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > > Various queries can have the same condition but different parameters > (e.g., showing it in a table vs. showing it in a list).We should only > have one cache for two queries that have the same results. > > Fully agree with this. I'm proposing t

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result caching and invalidation

2012-07-26 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 26/07/12 15:39, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > Nischay, Markus and me where discussing how to implement caching for ask > queries and inadvertently ended up discussing the whole query > invalidation project again. Since this fits in with Nischay his project > and is something I also want to po

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