Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-v001: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments

2018-03-29 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, A short email to explain with a simple example what the actual policy avoids and what I’m trying to solve. If you’re a university or enterprise having a Provider Independent assignment from APNIC, and then a visitor or employee or student, etc., is willing to use the WiFi, the ex

Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update

2018-08-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, I will like to provide some background, in case you’ve not read the complete proposal, about the intend. Actual PDP in APNIC only rely in looking into the consensus among the participants of the meeting. The SIG policy list is only considered as a way to “cancel” that. The SI

[sig-policy] prop-124: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments

2018-08-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, Regarding this policy proposal (https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-124). I will like to understand if everybody got the issue. This problem is basically the same in all the 5 RIRs and I proposed the same text to all (in some cases got simplified). The pr

Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update

2018-08-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, Thanks for commenting the proposal. I realized that there is a mistake, because in step 1, the first sentence talks about 1 week, while the second still is 4 weeks. So, the typo is in the 2nd part. It should be: A formal proposal paper must be submitted to the SIG ma

Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update

2018-08-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
t? I think that there are not. Regards, Hiroki Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Date: Thu Aug 16 2018 21:51:25 GMT+0900 > Hi Satoru, > > Thanks for commenting the proposal. >

Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update

2018-09-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
process to confirm consensus at AMM. Regards, Hiroki Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Date: Fri Aug 17 2018 11:48:13 GMT+0900 > Hi Hiroki, > > Thanks for reading the proposal and providing inputs!

Re: [sig-policy] Prop124 version 4

2018-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, Thanks for commenting on this. The current proposal text has not examples, I think it is quite neutral in this aspect: Providing addressing space to third party devices including addresses for point-to-point links and/or non-permanently providing addressing space to third

Re: [sig-policy] prop-125-v001: Validation of "abuse-mailbox" and other IRT emails

2018-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, all, Thanks again for your contribution. There are many ways to protect a whois “email” from spam. For example, you can request a manual intervention to actually “see” the email. I think this is an operational issue outside of the scope of the PDP, and should be sorted out

Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update

2018-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi again Satoru, all, Answers below, in-line, and thank again for your contribution. Regards, Jordi De: en nombre de Satoru Tsurumaki Fecha: martes, 11 de septiembre de 2018, 14:04 Para: SIG policy Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] prop-126-v001 : PDP Update Dear Colleagues, I a

Re: [sig-policy] Prop124 version 4

2018-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
sure that ISPs, typically offering broadband services, aren’t end-users, as they should be LIRs. Regards, Jordi De: Owen DeLong Fecha: martes, 11 de septiembre de 2018, 15:29 Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ CC: Satoru Tsurumaki , SIG policy Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] Prop124 version 4

Re: [sig-policy] Prop124 version 4

2018-09-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
PALET MARTINEZ CC: Satoru Tsurumaki , SIG policy Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] Prop124 version 4 Rather than explain each part of your text, I think it would be more useful if you explained where my text doesn’t convey the same intent. Owen On Sep 10, 2018, at 22:16 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

Re: [sig-policy] Comments on Prop 124, 125, 126

2018-09-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Prop124 version 4 (Owen DeLong) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 16:45:07 -0700 From: Owen DeLong To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: SIG policy Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Prop124 version 4 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;

[sig-policy] consensus definition

2018-09-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, As introduced in the meeting, here is the definition for consensus that I've compiled for the PDP update in LACNIC last May. 2. Definition of ‘Consensus’ Achieving ‘consensus’ does not mean that proposals are voted for and against, nor that the number of ‘yes's’, ‘no's’ and ‘abstention

[sig-policy] comments regarding prop-126 (PDP Update)

2018-09-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, I think the clearest message form the SIG meeting today is that we must keep the 4 weeks period for the submission before the meeting. I will like to know if you will agree with something mid-term in between 1 week and 4 weeks. Does the community think that 2 or 3 weeks may be sufficien

Re: [sig-policy] prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN

2019-01-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
HI Aftab, Thanks for providing inputs! My reading of the actual policy is that it actually enforces the multihoming “in a reasonable future”. An organization will also be eligible if it can demonstrate that it will meet the above criteria upon receiving an ASN (or within a reasonably sho

Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-version 5: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments

2019-02-21 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Dear Satoru, all, First of all, thanks a lot for your inputs! Let me try to clarify this. The text of the problem statement has been the same (maybe minor variations) across the 4 previous versions, so it is difficult to understand what is not clear now, which can have been addressed

Re: [sig-policy] Version 3 - prop-126 PDP Update

2019-02-21 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, and again thanks a lot for the inputs, Let me try to explain this. The PDP is by definition a community matter. The AMM is a smaller subset than the community, which in turn is represented by the EC. In a bottom-up approach, it doesn’t make sense that a decision taken by

Re: [sig-policy] prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN

2019-02-21 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi again Satoru, and once more many thanks for the inputs, If we keep “it holds previously-allocated provider independent address space”, then it means an organization, for example, deploying only IPv6, will not be able to get an ASN. Or even an organization willing to get IPv4, can’t get

Re: [sig-policy] prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN

2019-02-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
ernes, 22 de febrero de 2019, 19:00 Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ CC: Satoru Tsurumaki , Policy SIG Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] prop-128-v001: Multihoming not required for ASN On Feb 21, 2019, at 22:20 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi again Satoru, and once more many thanks for the i

Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-version 5: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments

2019-02-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
mentioned. Owen On Feb 21, 2019, at 21:46 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Dear Satoru, all, First of all, thanks a lot for your inputs! Let me try to clarify this. The text of the problem statement has been the same (maybe minor variations) across the 4 previous versions, s

Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

2019-03-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Aftab, We are dealing with similar problems also in other regions, so regardless if this has been visible or not for the secretariat, the problem exists. As explained in the problem statement, the actual text (I’m going to speak in a generic way for all the cases, IPv4, IPv6 and ASN),

Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

2019-03-19 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sumon, I’m sure I’ve responded. I just looked at the email archive, just in case, and my response is there: https://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2019/03/msg3.html Regards, Jordi De: en nombre de Sumon Ahmed Sabir Fecha: martes, 19 de mar

Re: [sig-policy] Amendment of SIG Charter

2019-05-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Paul, all, I feel that this proposed charter is not good enough. Let me try to explain it. In RIPE we have a WG for every kind of “topic”, for example, addressing, abuse, routing, etc. The PDP updates are discussed in the “plenary” (we have recent small update and this was not real

Re: [sig-policy] Amendment of SIG Charter

2019-05-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
ts updates that doesn’t relate to the management and use of internet address resources. Owen On May 10, 2019, at 09:30 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Paul, all, I feel that this proposed charter is not good enough. Let me try to explain it. In RIPE we have a WG for eve

Re: [sig-policy] Amendment of SIG Charter

2019-05-14 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
very different, but let’s make sure we don’t have this situation replicated in other APNIC. Regards, Jordi El 11/5/19 18:05, "Owen DeLong" escribió: On May 11, 2019, at 06:13, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Just to make it clear. Do you believe that the PDP update is

Re: [sig-policy] Amendment of SIG Charter

2019-05-14 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
cope for the SIG > The proposal is insufficiently developed to be the basis for a > useful discussion > The agenda has already been filled by topics of greater priority > > > Regards > Sunny > >> On 14/05/2019 8

Re: [sig-policy] Amendment of SIG Charter

2019-05-14 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
a useful discussion The agenda has already been filled by topics of greater priority Regards Sunny On 14/05/2019 8:11 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > I’m not interpreting the PDP as part of that, however, I’m fine if the > staff confirms that it is in-scope according to their understandi

Re: [sig-policy] Amendment of SIG Charter

2019-05-14 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
en filled by topics of greater priority Regards Sunny On 14/05/2019 8:11 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > I’m not interpreting the PDP as part of that, however, I’m fine if the > staff confirms that it is in-scope according to their understanding. >

Re: [sig-policy] Version 4 of prop-126 PDP Update

2019-08-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Javed, I don’t agree, let me explain why. The current process only talks about the meeting and the chairs have clearly indicated that they take in consideration the list and the confer. Anyone from the community that dislikes a consensus/non-consensus decision, could create a trouble

Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-v006: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2019-08-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Javed, I think you’re getting something wrong. Policies aren’t there so APNIC can verify “everything” to “every” member. This will be impossible. Policies are there so everybody know the rules, and try their best to avoid breaking them. Policies are there to avoid bad-intention

Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-v006: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Owen, all, Sorry the late answer … been too busy the last weeks. Responses below, in-line. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 27/8/19 8:05, "Owen DeLong" escribió: On Aug 26, 2019, at 03:19 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Javed, I think you’

Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-v006: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Javed, I actually think this is in the other way around. I believe you’re confusing different terms, clearly described in the definitions section of the policy manual: 2.2.1. Delegated address space APNIC "delegates" addresses to its account holders. These delegations can be for u

Re: [sig-policy] prop-124-v006: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, Thanks for investing time in the several policy proposals. I think that the last couple of emails could help all you to better understand the problem. Clearly, if different people read the current policy text in a different way, it will be much better to find a way so we have a sing

Re: [sig-policy] Version 4 of prop-126 PDP Update

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Owen, El 27/8/19 8:15, "Owen DeLong" escribió: On Aug 26, 2019, at 03:05 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Javed, I don’t agree, let me explain why. The current process only talks about the meeting and the chairs have clearly indicated that th

Re: [sig-policy] Version 4 of prop-126 PDP Update

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Sent: Monday, 26 August 2019 6:05 PM To: Policy SIG Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Version 4 of prop-126 PDP Update Hi Javed, I don’t agree, let me explain why. The current process only talks about the meeting a

Re: [sig-policy] Version 4 of prop-126 PDP Update

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Dear Saturo, See responses below, in-line. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 2/9/19 17:37, "Satoru Tsurumaki" escribió: Dear Colleagues, I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum Steering Team. I would like to share a feedback in our community for prop-126, based

Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, all, There are two points here: 1) Provide clarity about Inter/Intra-RIR. It is not clear in actual policy if it is referring only to Intra-RIR M&A or also Inter-RIR. It seems clear that because there is a policy for Inter-RIR transfers, the M&As should also support Inter-RIR. 2) T

Re: [sig-policy] Policy Proposal: prop-130-v001: Modification of transfer policies

2019-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Hiroki, all, Thanks for your inputs, allow me to clarify below, in-line. El 6/9/19 16:25, "Hiroki Kawabata" escribió: Hi all, About the part of IPv6, we oppose this. other parts are neutral. We have to make efforts to aggrigate IPv6 routes and to maintain sparse al

Re: [sig-policy] prop-131-v001: Editorial changes in IPv6 Policy

2019-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, all, I understand your point. I'm happy to remove the text "BCOP RIPE690 Section 4.2, provides guidelines about this.". It was only a reference and mentioning it in the policy proposal introduction (which is not part of the policy text) is enought. So I'm going to send an updated ve

Re: [sig-policy] prop-131-v001: Editorial changes in IPv6 Policy

2019-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Hiroki, Just sent a response to this in the previous email. Note this is only a minor editorial change in the policy proposal, the rest of the text is much more relevant than just this detail. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 6/9/19 15:45, "Hiroki Kawabata" escribió: Hi all,

[sig-policy] editorial clarification on prop-131

2019-09-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, Following the suggestion in the mic during the today SIG session, in section 5.2.4.3. the new title is "Assignment of multiple /48s to a single end site", however in section 10.1.4.1. Initial assignment, is was using a reference to "5.2.4.3. Assignments shorter than a /48 to a single E

Re: [sig-policy] editorial clarification on prop-131

2019-09-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
34, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" escribió: Hi all, Following the suggestion in the mic during the today SIG session, in section 5.2.4.3. the new title is "Assignment of multiple /48s to a single end site", however in section 10.1.4.1. Initial assignment, is was

Re: [sig-policy] Version 4 of prop-126 PDP Update

2019-09-14 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
work on setting up a mechanism for reviewing policies that have been implemented. Regards Amrita From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 4:57 AM To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: Pol

Re: [sig-policy] editorial clarification on prop-131

2019-09-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
No issue ! Thanks a lot! Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 18/9/19 1:58, "Srinivas Chendi" escribió: Hi Jordi, Apologies for the error. This is now corrected and published. Regards Sunny On 12/09/2019 3:43 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

Re: [sig-policy] Call for Papers: 5th IEEE/IFP International Workshop on Analytics for Network and Service Management (AnNet 2020)

2019-11-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
I wonder if the policy mailing is appropriate for CfP and if there is an AUP that clearly indicate that. We receive frequent CfP in this list, which doesn't happen in other RIRs and I guess the people sending them (which from time to time I recall is the same people), should be warned and if th

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133-v001: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
-Heng > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > > prop-133-v001: Clarification on Sub-Assignments > > > >

Re: [sig-policy] prop-134-v001: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sunny, all, I agree that we can improve this adding an explicit reference to the RFC7282, and making clear that the policy expires if not updated by the next OPM, so we don't depend on exact 6-months period, which not necessary will match from meeting to meeting. So, I think we should make

Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v002: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-130 > > Regards > > Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > > prop-130-v002: Modifica

Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v002: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
lly “clarify” Sections 8.4, 11.0, and 13.3 to explicitly say "APNIC will only recognize the intra-RIR transfer of…." Regards, Adam On 16 Feb 2020, at 11:55 am, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Sunny, all, I understand that your assesment for this proposal is only informational

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133-v001: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- prop-133-v001: Clarification on Sub-Assignments -------- Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez jordi.pa...@theipv6company.com <mailto:jordi.pa...@theipv6company.com> 1. Problem statement Note that this proposa

Re: [sig-policy] prop-134-v001: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Adam, By the way, thanks a lot for all the inputs, just sorry that we only get them from one person and they are so late. If we can get discussions more time ahead the meetings, we can get much better text, for sure! Below, in-line. El 17/2/20 11:55, "Adam Gosling" escribió: H

Re: [sig-policy] Criteria of resubmission the proposal

2020-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sumon, Satoru-San, all, Let me also provide my point of view on this: If you look at the videos of the previous presentations, there were some people in support of those policies. In fact, I used the videos and all the inputs (as in the list, unfortunatelly, basically there were only input

Re: [sig-policy] prop-134-v001: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
0, at 1:30 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Adam, -> The first problem we have here is that those guidelines were developed long time ago (2 decades or so), when we had many SIGs, and they were developed by the SIG chairs, not the community. The 2nd issue is that the PDP doesn’t mentio

Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v002: Secretariat impact assessment

2020-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
ages in this proposal? > > * Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? > > * What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective? > > > > Information about this proposal is available at: > > http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-130 > > > &

Re: [sig-policy] New version - prop-133-v002: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
l to make it more effective? > > Please find the text of the proposal below. > > Kind Regards, > > Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > > prop-133-v002: Clarification on Sub-Assignments > > _

Re: [sig-policy] New version - prop-134-v002: PDP Update

2020-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi again ... see below ... El 17/2/20 15:28, "Tsurumaki, Satoru" escribió: Dear Colleagues, I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum. I would like to share key feedback in our community for prop-134, based on a meeting we organised on 4th Feb to discuss th

[sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, As you know, we have decided to continue the discussion of this proposal in the mailing list. I've been thinking in a possible way to keep the "documented purposes" text as some indicated in the mike. So, what do you feel about these two choices: Option a) 2.2.3. Assigned address spac

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
7 76 (58F/min) On 21 Feb 2020, at 11:09, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi all, As you know, we have decided to continue the discussion of this proposal in the mailing list. I've been thinking in a possible way to keep the "documented purposes" text as some indicated in the mike.

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-21 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
On Feb 20, 2020, at 20:20 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Thanks Bertrand, I’m fine as well with this option. Repeating it here: "Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or end-user, for specific, documented purposes and exclusive use within the infr

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-21 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, After my previous response to Owen, I can't find anymore any the text in the actual policy (neither guidelines) about assignments. So, I'm wondering if I was wrong, or it has been removed at some point and I don't recall it ... Could the secretariat point out to the specific text about

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-22 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
from my mobile. From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 1:20:59 PM To: mailman_SIG-policy Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments Hi all, After my previous response to Owen, I can't

Re: [sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Bertrand, all, As indicated in the meeting, the withdraw of this proposal is "temporary", in view of the commitment from the EC/secretariat to review the discrepancies in the actual PDP and SIG guidelines, assuming that this will be brought back to the community, following the bottom-up-appr

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
xperience at that time. Do we have a case for that? In other RIRs, this has been already removed. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 24/2/20 4:39, "Srinivas Chendi" escribió: Hello Jordi, On 22/02/2020 2:20 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Hi all, > >

Re: [sig-policy] prop-133: Clarification on Sub-Assignments

2020-02-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sunny, I'm mainly interested in the assignments to ISP infrastructure, as the others are different cases, and clearly are "end-users". The point is to understand if there is really a need for ISPs to get additional assignments, why they can't do it already from their own allocation. Any in

Re: [sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:16, Srinivas Chendi wrote: > Hi Jordi, > > Thanks for your suggestion. Secretariat will consult with the APNIC > EC. > > Regards > Sunny > > On 24/02/2020 8:53 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> H

[sig-policy] PDP and SIG Guidelines Review Report (Policy SIG earlier today)

2020-09-09 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, I just saw the video (not able to attend on-line to all the sessions because a very different time zone all the week), of the Policy SIG session today, and specially the "PDP and SIG Guidelines Review Report". I've seen also the diff of both documents. I feel somehow "guilty" about thi

[sig-policy] about prop-125 Implementation update

2020-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi George, all, I just looked at the presentation that you have done earlier today and have some inputs about possible ways to improve it. 1. Slides 9-10 1.1. About receiving spam The abuse mailbox should receive *all* the emails to be able to receive abuse reports about spam. If you filter ema

Re: [sig-policy] about prop-125 Implementation update

2020-09-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Internet Resource Analyst/Policy Support, APNIC e: god...@apnic.net p: +61 7 3858 3188 f: +61 7 3858 3199 www.apnic.net ___ Join the conversation: https://blog.apnic.net/ On 10/9/20, 5:57 pm, "sig-p

Re: [sig-policy] SIG Guidelines Review

2020-11-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Could a track of changes be provided to simplify the review? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 16/11/20 2:44, "Bertrand Cherrier" escribió: Hello everybody ! Last year at APNIC 48 a discussion started about reviewing the SIG Guidelines. It is important to make documents match

Re: [sig-policy] Final editorial comments on draft document

2021-01-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sunny, all, I've several points in addition to my document comments. I can't use the comments platform, which by the way, is absolutely unpractical (not to say something really more negative), because a) you need to be on-line, which may not be the case, b) you don't create a public discussi

Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

2021-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sunny, all, I fully understand the difficulties that you mention, but those difficulties, to me look like the same as per existing policy. Any transfer requires checking documents, which may be in different languages. Any transfer requires coordination among NIRs or RIRs, etc. So, I do not

Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

2021-03-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Adam, I don't have the need to "disguise" any policy proposal. I'm a very honest and transparent person, pity that you didn't noticed it, and if I believe that IPv6 transfers outside of M&A's are required, I will submit that policy in an open and transparent manner. I've you believe that I'

Re: [sig-policy] Policy Discussion in bdNOG for APNIC51

2021-03-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi, It will be possible to understand what issues the participants have discussed about prop-130? By the way, I think it will be much more efficient if instead of reading a policy proposal on behalf the author (and without him knowing it), an opportunity to the author to participate is provide

Re: [sig-policy] prop-130-v003: Modification of transfer policies

2021-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
arent in your proposal. If the community demonstrates that it accepts this cost / benefit trade-off, I’ll happily support the proposal. Regards, Adam > On 1 Mar 2021, at 9:09 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > I don't have

[sig-policy] clarification requested from AFRINIC

2021-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi all, Today, during the APNIC51 meeting, in the Global Reports session (https://2021.apricot.net/program/schedule-conference/#/day/10/apnic-global-reports), as usual, there was a presentation from every RIR, including AFRINIC. In this presentation from AFRINIC, there have been two "imprecisio

Re: [sig-policy] [rpd] [Community-Discuss] clarification requested from AFRINIC

2021-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
le, even if the co-chairs have been recalled, I don’t have any reasons to believe that they lied in sense that they didn’t sent the email. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/3/21 12:09, "Madhvi Gokool" escribió: Hello Jordi /PDWG On 03/03/2021 1:52 PM, JORDI

[sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

2021-03-03 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Sunny, all, Some of the topics that you mention, have been already resolved in other RIRs, as there were similar issues. In fact, I authored a few policy proposals about some of them. In a quick review of your presentation, I see that many of them are really easy to resolve. They are not "e

Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

2021-03-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
di" escribió: Hello Jordi, Thanks for your email. Please see the responses inline below. On 15/03/2021 8:05 am, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi all, I've got no inputs to this message, so I moved on and edited a draft policy proposal, trying to avoid any "contentious" w

Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

2021-03-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
I meant: in the sense that any non-used resource must be returned “voluntarily” (or otherwise reclaimed). Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 15/3/21 10:17, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" escribió: Hi Sunny, all, I saw your slides, and in fact, that’s what I followed ini

Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

2021-03-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
as NIRs in our region, you may want to include them in your proposed point. Thanks Vivek From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Date: Tuesday, 16 March 2021 at 7:08 pm To: Vivek Nigam , Srinivas Chendi , sig-policy Subject: Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document

Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

2021-03-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
ation must then be returned to APNIC or the relevant NIR. Thanks Vivek From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Date: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at 6:36 pm To: Vivek Nigam , Srinivas Chendi , sig-policy Subject: Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

2021-03-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
ation must then be returned to APNIC or the relevant NIR. Thanks Vivek From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Date: Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at 6:36 pm To: Vivek Nigam , Srinivas Chendi , sig-policy Subject: Re: [sig-policy] proposals to resolve the "APNIC Policy Document Review Report"

Re: [sig-policy] Abuse Role Object

2021-05-27 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Aftab, all, In my opinion, the policy text + the explanations/presentation provided by the authors + the “additional information” section of the policy proposal, was providing the information to avoid this type of issues. Of course, the secretariat could take different implementation a

Re: [sig-policy] Abuse Role Object

2021-05-27 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
implementation details that they can adjust without working out a policy proposal. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 27/5/21 8:31, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" escribió: Hi Aftab, all, In my opinion, the policy text + the explanations/presentation provided by the authors + the “

Re: [sig-policy] New Proposal prop-139-v001: SOR not required

2021-09-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Satoru, I’m not sure to understand your comments. If the exising SOR is not being use, it means that removing it will not make a significant difference, right? So we’re not making allocations easier, we are just trusting that if the SOR is not being used, we should adapt the policy to

Re: [sig-policy] New Proposal prop-140-v001: Update End-Site Definition

2021-09-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi again … When I wrote this proposal, I was looking for all the uses of the complete policy manual for end-user, end-site, etc. And I was sure that I didn’t miss anything. So, could you point to what specific sections in the policy manual I’ve missed, so I can see if a new version can fix t

Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-121: Updating "InitialIPv6 allocation"

2017-09-08 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
posals/prop-121 > > Regards > > Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > > > prop-121-v001: Updating “Initial IPv6 allocation” policy > > ---

Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-122-v001: Updating "Subsequent IPv6 allocation " policy

2017-09-08 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
--- > > prop-122-v001: Updating “Subsequent IPv6 allocation” policy > > > > Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez > jor

Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-121: Updating "InitialIPv6 allocation"

2017-09-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> > > > > prop-121-v001: Updating “Initial IPv6 allocation” policy > > > > Proposer

Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-121: Updating "InitialIPv6 allocation"

2017-09-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> > > http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-121 > > > > Regards > > > > Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand > > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > > > > >

Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-121: Updating "InitialIPv6 allocation"

2017-09-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Responder a: Fecha: jueves, 14 de septiembre de 2017, 8:54 Para: CC: SIG policy Asunto: Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-121: Updating "InitialIPv6 allocation" Hi Jordi, Thank you for your response. 2017-09-09 12:40 GMT+08:00 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ :

Re: [sig-policy] New proposal prop-121: Updating "InitialIPv6 allocation"

2017-09-13 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
y and the planned longevity of the allocation.” It means that all the criteria I’m setting there, will be valid to justify your needs. I guest hostmasters can confirm if that’s their interpretation as well? Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: en nombre de JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Resp

[sig-policy] Re: Final Comment Period for prop-142: Unify Transfer Policies Text

2022-03-04 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
Hi Koki, all, Let me clarify it. The actual policy for IPv4 transfers has this text at the end of 8.0: "APNIC will maintain a public log of all transfers made under this policy." The rest of the transfers (actual policy), is silent about that, so even if APNIC could also include those transfers

[sig-policy] Re: prop-148-v001: Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable

2022-08-22 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
rtrand, Shaila, and Ching-Heng APNIC Policy SIG Chairs --- prop-148-v001: Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable ---- Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez (jordi.palet

[sig-policy] Re: prop-148-v001: Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable

2022-08-22 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
ly matter whose network they are used on? Isn’t the salient point that they are in use? I am against this policy. Regards, Mike Burns From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 9:21 AM To: Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi ; sig-policy@lists.apnic.ne

[sig-policy] Re: prop-148-v001: Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable

2022-08-22 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
that if the declared use of allocated resources changes fundamentally, then the resources may be subject to reclamation by APNIC. Is not that clear enough? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 22/8/22, 18:40, "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" escribió: Hi Mike,

[sig-policy] Re: prop-148-v001: Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable

2022-08-22 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
ike Burns" To: "'JORDI PALET MARTINEZ'" ; "'Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi'" ; sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Sent: 23/08/2022 3:17:12 AM Subject: [sig-policy] Re: prop-148-v001: Leasing of Resources is not Acceptable There are a number of problems with this po

[sig-policy] Re: prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management

2022-08-23 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
-- prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management -------- Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez (jordi.palet@theipv6company.comAnupam)   Anupam Agrawal (anupamagrawal...@gmail.com) 1. Problem statement Section 4.2.1 is outdated and

[sig-policy] Re: prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management

2022-08-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
ount. We will continue to assist them with their claims through the year. Thanks Vivek From: Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi Date: Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 6:02 pm To: Andrew Yager , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Subject: [sig-policy] Re: prop-147-v001: Historical Res

[sig-policy] Re: prop-147-v001: Historical Resources Management

2022-08-26 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via sig-policy
I believe APNIC members should asess the progress of the HRM project in 12 months time and consider your proposal then, rather than mandating in a policy final date in this cycle, despite your afore mentioned risks. Regards, Brett On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:19 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

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