Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Tony Moody
Robb, My guess is that what you are going through is a Herxheimer reaction. If your feeling bad is really due to a herx then this is a good thing. It means that you are getting rid of stuff which has been stored in your body. However, drink more pure water, Alkalize your body and reduce the

Re: CS process/elimination Maja

2003-04-11 Thread Maja Hristozova
Thanks I'll read it and I'll get back if I have any questions :) Maia --- INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com wrote: this website talks about what happens to the silver after you drink. check it out. this is the title. COLLOIDAL SILVER - WHERE DOES IT GO WHEN YOU DRINK IT? HOW

Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Robb Allen
Hi everybody.I'm not allergic to anythingI get my MSM from MSM-MSM.com..so I think its probably good ?...I've been taking about 10 grams a day...makes me feel icky..like I'm realeasing a bunch of toxins or something.can't explain

Re: CSCS and H2O2

2003-04-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Color does indicate particle size but not all the particles will be that size. Pale yellow has a few of the larger particles and many many smaller ones. Yellow particles are larger but not necessarily too large. No color is preferable but it all works. If you get violet or reddish..toss

RE: CSPROTEIN DIETS- THE GOOD AND THE BAD PRESS

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Roman, An essay on Banting and his 1863 diet. http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/banting.html Ivan -Original Message- From: Roman [mailto:r_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, 11 April 2003 5:42 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPROTEIN DIETS- THE GOOD AND THE BAD PRESS

RE: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Sounds like something is wrong, Pat. Run through the specs of your generator and process for me (forgive me if you have noted them already). Ivan -Original Message- From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET [mailto:pfsing...@msn.com] Sent: Friday, 11 April 2003 5:35 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSpharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)

2003-04-11 Thread Ode Coyote
These are all minerals your body can make use of ..and can't avoid..anyway. Something has to conduct electricity at first. I think that there can be impurities that can act as a catylist in the process that can mess things up but it's rare that such a thing happens and a change in water

Re: CS ozonized water clarification

2003-04-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Persnally, I wouldn't recommend ozonating your CS. It will probably oxidize the ions and make the CS come out brown or black. Silver oxides are pretty much inert. ken At 01:43 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: check this website out. it shows a ozonizer generator. i just have to find out

RE: CS CS patented-complete link

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
It is my understanding that the silver solution itself is not in fact patented at all. It is nothing more than a HVAC produced solution as produced by the method developed by Bruce Marx. Indeed, they site one of his papers as a reference in the one patent I have seen. This patent describes an

RE: CSCS - processing/elimination

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Nia, I would doubt any difficulty in eliminating CS. That which is not eliminated in the urine would be eliminated by the liver via the bile. BTW, your sister may get some relief from her Crohn's disease by supplementing with vitamin D3. Her 25(OH)D levels should be about 100nmol. It might be

RE: CSCS and H2O2

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
There is not a problem with the particle size of yellow or even gold CS. However, the darker and redder the CS is, the more likely that it is not very stable, and will settle out. That being said, I still have 10 Litres of yellow CS at 22ppm, that was made in 1998. Only add H2O2 if your solution

Re: CS OZONIZER

2003-04-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Why in heaven would you want an ozonizer? Ozone is a free radical..very destructive...extremely corrosive. It's a good idea to avoid it in any significant concentration if possible. ken At 04:38 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: the first link given didn't get me to a website to buy an

RE: CSRE: hypothyroidism - for Sharon

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
There are some health professionals that believe that both hypo and hyperthyroidism is a vitamin D insufficiency problem (like so many chronic illnesses), because of the strain put on the parathyroid to produce constant large amounts of PTH. Perhaps this warrants further consideration. Ivan

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
so far I've had my CS generator for maybe 2 weeks. it's from www.sunstoneherbals.com (you might be able to get a better picture than my description. it's the plastic casing type. fresh batteries, 2 week old . silver electrodes. make about 8OZ of CS daily. i guess thats it. - Original

RE: CSGenerator question thanks

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Sounds pretty good to me :-) Ivan -Original Message- From: hdka [mailto:h...@myecom.net] Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2003 7:23 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGenerator question thanks Tish I started with a 7Vdc power supply and when my scanner went south I now use

Re: CSRE: constant current

2003-04-11 Thread Jim
I am generating my CS with 17 V DC power supply, but have to constantly monitor the current to keep it down. Does anyone know where I can find a circuit diagram of whatever it takes to make this a constant current, as the CS resistance goes down it will automatically keep the current down at

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Slow your reaction down. [a lot] Stop it earlier. Ken At 01:35 AM 4/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: usually when I make my CS I make then drink it but if I let it sit I get black clumps that sank to the bottom. I guess I have good distilled water. the water jug says it's UV light micron

RE: CSRe: Glutathione uptake

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi Roe, I have given colloidal silver to my daughter for the last 5 years (she is now 9yrs old), but not constantly. She gets to spray her sinus and gargle if she feels a cold coming on, but that is not very often. Ivan -Original Message- From: Rosemarie Dubrowsky

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
ode coyote, I'm not sure I follow what your saying. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote Slow your reaction down. [a lot] Stop it earlier. Ken At 01:35 AM 4/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: usually when I make my CS I make then drink it but if I let it sit I get black clumps that sank

RE: CSpurest ever cont'd. experiment

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Ole Bob wrote, in part: For example those that use a pwt to measure conductance and convert that to PPM with a factor will have a REALproblem with my latest work. Normally the PWT reading is divided by somethine like 1.8 to get a relative PPM. MY newest process makes a CS that has a

CSRe:CSShingles

2003-04-11 Thread margaret B
Hi everyone, My friends granddaughter has just been diagnosed with shingles. She is only 2 years old, so the doctor said that he can't treat it, that she should coat the rash in calamine lotion. My question is, would she be too young to take CS internally? I have suggested that it would help

RE: CSTest for silver sensitivity available?

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Hi Rebecca, Spraying silver on the inside of the elbow is the only thing I can think of, other than to try and ingest a small amount. Can she wear silver jewellery? Ivan. -Original Message- From: Rebecca Mac [mailto:rleemac2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2003 2:55 a.m. To:

RE: CSRE: constant current

2003-04-11 Thread Medwith, Robert
Jim Go to Mouser electronics part no 610-1N5287 is a 1 Mill Amp Current Reg Central Diode this will keep you current at rated out put provideing you have sufficient voltage (may be lower at start depending on power supply) but never more the rateing There is a wide variety of sizes I use 1 MA

RE: CScolloidal silver

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Welcome Jay, You might find it easier to ask specific questions. Also there is a search option at the archives http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Ivan -Original Message- From: jay ice [mailto:guessic...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 7 April 2003 2:15 a.m. To:

RE: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Well, That is a pretty basic package. It really needs some sort of current limit to slow the reaction down, as Ken says. Perhaps you can disconnect one of the batteries? I would run no more than 15 mins with three batteries 30 with two and an hour with one. The latter will make the most stable,

RE: CSRE: constant current

2003-04-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Pat, this is what you need! Ivan -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:medwi...@tacom.army.mil] Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2003 1:06 a.m. To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'; 'kf4...@papadocs.com' Subject: RE: CSRE: constant current Jim Go to Mouser electronics part no 610-1N5287

CSHigh fat diets

2003-04-11 Thread Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]
Could the problem with studies here be the kind of fats? Meats raised on corn and soybeans has a much different type of fat than grass fed. Also, trans-fatty acids such as in margarine and shortening are very bad for people. So, I have to wonder about results of studies which used these

Re: CSOT OLE BOB

2003-04-11 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
ole bob, I have this idea. I need to talk to you( different topic). e-mail me a blank message and let me know that your still around. I'll give you the details. cashedout2...@yahoo.com pat -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for

Re: CSdistilled water

2003-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have never heard the expression before, but I have heard of vacuum distilled. It sounds like the distillation was done at greater than atmospheric pressure. I am surprised they labeled it though. The way a high efficiency distillation process works is that you start with a stage that has high

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
I tried to just use 1 battery but there is two batteries connected to one electrode then 1 battery connected to the other electrode. but I'll try disconnecting the 1 electrode with two. thanx for the info. pat. - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003

Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
My wife had the same thing happen when she change brands. She had to stop taking it, and when she change to another brand, it did not cause the problems. I would guess that the brand you are using has a toxic impurity in it. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: Every Time I start taking msm in doses

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Where is the Walmart. Their distilled water quality is considerably different depending on where they get it from. Some on this list have indicated that their distilled water is excellent, but when I tried it it was so bad I had to throw it out. The conductivity pegged my meter. Marshall

Re: CSRe:CSShingles

2003-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
If it were me, I would give her CS. It has been reported that CS is effective against the chicken pox virus. My daugher gives CS to her 20 month old baby when she gets sick, and has done so virtually since birth. This is not medical advice, just what I would do. Marshall margaret B wrote: Hi

Re: CSPROTEIN DIETS- THE GOOD AND THE BAD PRESS

2003-04-11 Thread Roman
Brooks, I’d like to ask you a few questions about your center’s work in this area. Have you arrived to an explanation of why treating diabetes is better approached with a higher saturated fat consumption? Have you observed anything that would support metabolic type difference theory? Did some

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread James Allison
Pat, please give me a call at our toll free number, and we can go over the details of making CS, etc. Or shoot me an email if you would rather, to ja...@sunstoneherbals.com. Thanks! Yours in health, James Allison Sunstone Herbals - Original Message - From: INGRID

CSRe:CSShingles

2003-04-11 Thread herx
Margaret, I have had 2 friends in the past year with shingles, and I provided CS to both, with excellent results. If your granddaughter exhibits the rash, try soaking a clean papertowel with CS and using it as a compress directly on the rash. My friends reported that the pain stopped on contact.

CSRE: Test Method

2003-04-11 Thread Robert Berger
Ivan,I use a Hach spectrophotometer for ionic measurements. The measurement of conductivity changes with time. According to my data plots the final conductivity may be 50 uS/cm, but with in a few hours it is about half that number. If you have Wplot32.exe I can send you some interesting plots.

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #221

2003-04-11 Thread Rosemarie Dubrowsky
Margaret, I don't know enough about cs to give you an answer, but was curious about the shingles... did your granddaughter receive the chickenpox vaccine? I am hearing more and more children getting shingles (something historically that was an older person's illness and one that you could

Re: CSmake your own distilled water

2003-04-11 Thread sol
Well, that's why so many of us buy generators with current limiting and auto shut off. Without those, every batch will be different, as no matter how much you try you will never eliminate all the variables. And without current limiting you had better be there and watch the process (don't burn

RE: CSGood source of silver wire

2003-04-11 Thread Medwith, Robert
I try adress for silver wire(ablea...@atlasnova.com) It was kicked back is the wire still available What is price Bob -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGood source

Re: CS proper CS

2003-04-11 Thread Linda Hefferman
Hi there. It would appear that we both have the same generator. I however no longer make cs that has any sludge in it with the same generator. At first I would follow the instructions that came with the book and I would make a 16 ounce glass of cs in an hour. I would have to interupt the

Re: CS OZONIZER

2003-04-11 Thread CKing001
Ozone water is supposed to have real health benefits. Lets see, ozonated olive oil, ozone sauna, and some other stuff. Saul Pressman is pretty expert on the subject. Hangs on the oxyplus list. They discuss a lot of alternative health treatments.

Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Whatever Walmart carries. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: Marshall..do you know what brand she switched to?there are only two choices on the websiteincidently I just made another order and I switched to the opti brandI was taking LignisulRobb - Original

Re: CSGood source of silver wire

2003-04-11 Thread Acmeair
RE: CSGood source of silver wireyou have a typo in your url... abela...@atlasnova.com - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:38 AM Subject: RE: CSGood source of silver wire I try adress for

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #218

2003-04-11 Thread william meyer
why are some people adding msm to their silver water? what is the connection? also, will msm penetrate the skin like dmso? -- -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your

Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Robb Allen
Marshall..do you know what brand she switched to?there are only two choices on the websiteincidently I just made another order and I switched to the opti brandI was taking LignisulRobb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To:

Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Robb Allen
How does MSM cause HERX?does it kill something?Robb - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:41 AM Subject: Re: CSMSM Robb, My guess is that what you are going through is a Herxheimer

Re: CSto smoke cs or not to

2003-04-11 Thread Dan Nave
What I would recommend for you, Dude, is a large dose of Sobriety. It is known to cure a variety of ills. Acquiring this essence is usually quite costly and it is rarely found on the internet. However, most have found it well worth the cost and effort to acquire. Since it is not readily

CSCS and Kidney Transplants

2003-04-11 Thread Soundbanks
Does anyone here have information related to using CS before/after kidney transplant surgery? My sister will soon be placed on the transplant list with end stage renal failure...no dialysis yet... but that should begin very soon...close family members seem to have the same problem...it's

CS9999 silver wire

2003-04-11 Thread Linda Hefferman
Try the following link. It should take you right into Arnold Belands store at Ebay. I already purchased some silver wire from him and I am very pleased not only with the quality of the wire but also with the speed it was delivered to me. Good luck and good health

CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread JohnWallis
I could use some input on this subject. My Granddaughter was born with a ear problem and had to have tubes inserted in the ear canal. The medical people have said, 1. they will have to be removed when she is older. 2. They (the tubes) do not need to be taken out. Tissue will grow around them.

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread Bill Missett
Yes, I am familiar with the ear conditions you describe. Both my sons had the same operation, and I would not hesitate to give them CS had I known about it then (30 years ago). I had the same type of ear problems when I was a kid, with constant ear aches, so I'm sensitive to that kind of

RE: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]
I don't know about the silver, but have read in more than one place that food allergy underlies this problem in most cases. http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/theroleoffoodallergiesinearinfections/ My suggestion is to later try eliminating some of the major food allergens, which are: Milk

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread JohnWallis
Thank you. I have forwarded your story and instruction to my daughter. John. - Original Message - From: Bill Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and ear infection Yes, I am familiar with the ear conditions you

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread JohnWallis
Thank you for your reply. I have forwarded it to my daughter. I'm sure she could do without some of the items mentioned, as she eats every one of them:^) John. - Original Message - From: Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:06 PM

Re: CSMSM

2003-04-11 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear Robb, At the MSM levels you are taking, surges in detoxification are quite likely. We experienced very similar reactions among our volunteer populations during our rather extensive evaluations of MSM ingestionseveral years ago.

Re: CSMSM/SOURCES

2003-04-11 Thread Albert Peirce
There is a source of MSM at sure-nutrition.com available locally at Tractor Supply Corporation. It is produced by Farnum and is supposedly for veterinary purposes (horses), but is 99% pure, at $16 odd dollars the pound and there is a factory coupon for $3 off. As teenagers, we used a lot of

Re: CSCS and Kidney Transplants

2003-04-11 Thread John Osowiecki
Kathy, My daughter had a kidney transplant 6 years ago-this coming June. I have used homemade LVDC CS on her for the past 3 years, with some absolutely tremendous results. I am more than willing to share any information or experiences I have. Feel free to contact me offlist, and I can answer

Re: CSMSM/SOURCES

2003-04-11 Thread Robb Allen
Hion the website MSM is about 9 dollars for a pound...and if you buy more...the price goes downif you bought 55 pounds it would only cost 4.80 a pound or something like that...Robb - Original Message - From: Albert Peirce To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread twll
Look into ear candles.They should help. - Original Message - From: JohnWallis To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: CSCS and ear infection I could use some input on this subject. My Granddaughter was born with a ear problem and had to

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread LSMD1
In a message dated 4/11/03 6:42:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, t...@alltel.net writes: . 2. They (the tubes) do not need to be taken out. Tissue will grow around them. Sorry, I cannot answer your question but, When my son was 4-5 years old he had ear tubes put in for infections. One did

Re: CSMSM/SOURCES

2003-04-11 Thread Albert Peirce
PLUS $5.70 shopping for 1 pound!! Apples and oranges, please! $15.20 total for lignisol which was panned by you yourself!! Regards, Al... - Original Message - From: Robb Allen To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: Re: CSMSM/SOURCES

CSRe: Can CS help knee pain

2003-04-11 Thread Maryanna Bailes
Hi, My name is Mary Anna; I am new to the group and learning I might add...My Dh is having terrible knee pain; he needs a knee replacement but the physician will wait till he is in his 60's so that the replacement will last his lifetime...Nevertheless, he need help..He is taking Glucosamine

Re: CSCS and Kidney Transplants

2003-04-11 Thread John Osowiecki
OOPS..sorry Kathie, about the misspelling of your name. It's been a long day. ~:-} I also realized that I didn't answer your basic question. Yes, CS will help with infections post transplant. I haven't found it to have any effect on my daughters rejection, except indirectly (by

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread C Creel
t...@alltel.net wrote: Look into ear candles.They should help. How will ear candles help? Thanks. Regards, Catherine

Re: CSCS and ear infection

2003-04-11 Thread CKing001
Uh,OH... Duck Cover!!! Chuck Oh, no! Not ANOTHER learning experience! On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:16:35 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote: t...@alltel.net wrote: Look into ear candles.They should help. How will ear candles help? Thanks.

Re: CSPROTEIN DIETS- THE GOOD AND THE BAD PRESS

2003-04-11 Thread Dean Miller
Hi Brooks, On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 00:20:45 -0500, Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Dear Dean, Our research DOES NOT bear out the efficacy of your Referenced researcher's claims. I didn't provide that reference. I was complaining that the

Re: CSRe: Can CS help knee pain

2003-04-11 Thread CKing001
For joint pain, I injest a teaspoon of MSM dissolved in a glass of water. I would also use DMSO applied to the joint. I would expect instant relief. Chuck Press any key...no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE! On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:53:27 -0500, Maryanna

Re: CSMSM/SOURCES

2003-04-11 Thread JSHAMMAH1
Farnum is very reputable. They also own Vita-Flex, another large animal/horse nutritional line. Vita-Flex also has MSM and it is great.

CScs and kidney transplants and Christiane

2003-04-11 Thread Shirley Reed
Please send your experiences to the list as I feel sure everyone is as interested as I am, which is a lot. pj - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

CScolloidal silver

2003-04-11 Thread CHUCKGAIL CRESSWELL
Dear Sir/ Madam, I am very confused and am in desperate need of some help if you can!!! I have just bought three CS generators, one for my parents, one for my nan and the other for me. I have been on the internet for the past two days trying to research the correct amount that should/ could be

Re: CScolloidal silver

2003-04-11 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
prety much just go with your gut. if you have some type of sicknes you want to get rid of go with a higher ppm. start with say 10pm. i believe after 4-5 days you should be feling the complete benefits i sopose. then gradualy go up if its not what you want. i have learned this more is not always

CSRE: Tamarand - colloidal silver -

2003-04-11 Thread AScottSilver
Hi Tamarand, First, I have to say you paid too much for what you got. Second, use only distilled water. Third, it is okay to clean the wires. Use the green scrubber side of a kitchen sponge. Fourth, your colloidal silver should be clear -- after it rests for a day or two it might turn a slight