Robb,
My guess is that what you are going through is a Herxheimer reaction.
If your feeling bad is really due to a herx then this is a good thing.
It means that you are getting rid of stuff which has been stored in your body.
However, drink more pure water, Alkalize your body and reduce the
Thanks
I'll read it and I'll get back if I have any questions
:)
Maia
--- INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET pfsing...@msn.com wrote:
this website talks about what happens to the silver
after you drink. check it out.
this is the title.
COLLOIDAL SILVER - WHERE DOES IT GO WHEN YOU DRINK
IT?
HOW
Hi everybody.I'm not allergic to anythingI get my MSM from
MSM-MSM.com..so I think its probably good ?...I've been
taking about 10 grams a day...makes me feel icky..like I'm
realeasing a bunch of toxins or something.can't explain
Color does indicate particle size but not all the particles will be that
size. Pale yellow has a few of the larger particles and many many smaller
ones. Yellow particles are larger but not necessarily too large. No color
is preferable but it all works.
If you get violet or reddish..toss
Roman,
An essay on Banting and his 1863 diet.
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/banting.html
Ivan
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From: Roman [mailto:r_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 April 2003 5:42 p.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPROTEIN DIETS- THE GOOD AND THE BAD PRESS
Sounds like something is wrong, Pat.
Run through the specs of your generator and process for me (forgive me
if you have noted them already).
Ivan
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From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET [mailto:pfsing...@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 April 2003 5:35 p.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
These are all minerals your body can make use of ..and can't
avoid..anyway. Something has to conduct electricity at first.
I think that there can be impurities that can act as a catylist in the
process that can mess things up but it's rare that such a thing happens and
a change in water
Persnally, I wouldn't recommend ozonating your CS. It will probably
oxidize the ions and make the CS come out brown or black. Silver oxides
are pretty much inert.
ken
At 01:43 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:
check this website out. it shows a ozonizer generator. i just have to find
out
It is my understanding that the silver solution itself is not in fact
patented at all. It is nothing more than a HVAC produced solution as
produced by the method developed by Bruce Marx. Indeed, they site one
of his papers as a reference in the one patent I have seen. This
patent describes an
Nia,
I would doubt any difficulty in eliminating CS. That which is not
eliminated in the urine would be eliminated by the liver via the bile.
BTW, your sister may get some relief from her Crohn's disease by
supplementing with vitamin D3.
Her 25(OH)D levels should be about 100nmol. It might be
There is not a problem with the particle size of yellow or even gold
CS. However, the darker and redder the CS is, the more likely that it
is not very stable, and will settle out.
That being said, I still have 10 Litres of yellow CS at 22ppm, that
was made in 1998.
Only add H2O2 if your solution
Why in heaven would you want an ozonizer? Ozone is a free radical..very
destructive...extremely corrosive. It's a good idea to avoid it in any
significant concentration if possible.
ken
At 04:38 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:
the first link given didn't get me to a website to buy an
There are some health professionals that believe that both hypo and
hyperthyroidism is a vitamin D insufficiency problem (like so many
chronic illnesses), because of the strain put on the parathyroid to
produce constant large amounts of PTH.
Perhaps this warrants further consideration.
Ivan
so far I've had my CS generator for maybe 2 weeks. it's from
www.sunstoneherbals.com (you might be able to get a better picture than my
description. it's the plastic casing type. fresh batteries, 2 week old .
silver electrodes. make about 8OZ of CS daily. i guess thats it.
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Sounds pretty good to me :-)
Ivan
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From: hdka [mailto:h...@myecom.net]
Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2003 7:23 a.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGenerator question thanks
Tish I started with a 7Vdc power supply and when my scanner
went south I now
use
I am generating my CS with 17 V DC power supply, but have to constantly
monitor the current to keep it down. Does anyone know where I can find
a circuit diagram of whatever it takes to make this a constant current,
as the CS resistance goes down it will automatically keep the current
down at
Slow your reaction down. [a lot]
Stop it earlier.
Ken
At 01:35 AM 4/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
usually when I make my CS I make then drink it but if I let it sit I get
black clumps that sank to the bottom. I guess I have good distilled water.
the water jug says it's UV light micron
Hi Roe,
I have given colloidal silver to my daughter for the last 5 years (she
is now 9yrs old), but not constantly. She gets to spray her sinus and
gargle if she feels a cold coming on, but that is not very often.
Ivan
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From: Rosemarie Dubrowsky
ode coyote,
I'm not sure I follow what your saying.
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From: Ode Coyote
Slow your reaction down. [a lot]
Stop it earlier.
Ken
At 01:35 AM 4/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
usually when I make my CS I make then drink it but if I let it sit I get
black clumps that sank
Ole Bob wrote, in part:
For example those that use a pwt to measure conductance and
convert that to
PPM with a factor will have a REALproblem with my latest
work. Normally the
PWT reading is divided by somethine like 1.8 to get a relative PPM.
MY newest process makes a CS that has a
Hi everyone,
My friends granddaughter has just been diagnosed with shingles. She is only 2
years old, so the doctor said that he can't treat it, that she should coat the
rash in calamine lotion.
My question is, would she be too young to take CS internally? I have suggested
that it would help
Hi Rebecca,
Spraying silver on the inside of the elbow is the only thing I can
think of, other than to try and ingest a small amount. Can she wear
silver jewellery?
Ivan.
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From: Rebecca Mac [mailto:rleemac2...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2003 2:55 a.m.
To:
Jim
Go to Mouser electronics part no 610-1N5287 is a 1 Mill Amp Current Reg
Central Diode
this will keep you current at rated out put provideing you have sufficient
voltage
(may be lower at start depending on power supply) but never more the rateing
There is a wide variety of sizes I use 1 MA
Welcome Jay,
You might find it easier to ask specific questions. Also there is a
search option at the archives
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
Ivan
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From: jay ice [mailto:guessic...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, 7 April 2003 2:15 a.m.
To:
Well,
That is a pretty basic package. It really needs some sort of current
limit to slow the reaction down, as Ken says. Perhaps you can
disconnect one of the batteries?
I would run no more than 15 mins with three batteries 30 with two and
an hour with one. The latter will make the most stable,
Pat,
this is what you need!
Ivan
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From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:medwi...@tacom.army.mil]
Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2003 1:06 a.m.
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'; 'kf4...@papadocs.com'
Subject: RE: CSRE: constant current
Jim
Go to Mouser electronics part no 610-1N5287
Could the problem with studies here be the kind of fats? Meats raised on corn
and soybeans has a much different type of fat than grass fed. Also, trans-fatty
acids such as in margarine and shortening are very bad for people. So, I have
to wonder about results of studies which used these
ole bob,
I have this idea. I need to talk to you( different topic). e-mail me a blank
message and let me know that your still around. I'll give you the details.
cashedout2...@yahoo.com
pat
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I have never heard the expression before, but I have heard of vacuum
distilled. It sounds like the distillation was done at greater than
atmospheric pressure. I am surprised they labeled it though.
The way a high efficiency distillation process works is that you start
with a stage that has high
I tried to just use 1 battery but there is two batteries connected to one
electrode then 1 battery connected to the other electrode. but I'll try
disconnecting the 1 electrode with two. thanx for the info. pat.
- Original Message -
From: Ivan Anderson
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003
My wife had the same thing happen when she change brands. She had to
stop taking it, and when she change to another brand, it did not cause
the problems.
I would guess that the brand you are using has a toxic impurity in it.
Marshall
Robb Allen wrote:
Every Time I start taking msm in doses
Where is the Walmart. Their distilled water quality is considerably
different depending on where they get it from. Some on this list have
indicated that their distilled water is excellent, but when I tried it
it was so bad I had to throw it out. The conductivity pegged my meter.
Marshall
If it were me, I would give her CS. It has been reported that CS is
effective against the chicken pox virus. My daugher gives CS to her 20
month old baby when she gets sick, and has done so virtually since
birth.
This is not medical advice, just what I would do.
Marshall
margaret B wrote:
Hi
Brooks,
Id like to ask you a few questions about your
centers work in this area.
Have you arrived to an explanation of why treating
diabetes is better approached with a higher saturated
fat consumption?
Have you observed anything that would support
metabolic type difference theory? Did some
Pat, please give me a call at our toll free number, and we can go over the
details of making CS, etc. Or shoot me an email if you would rather, to
ja...@sunstoneherbals.com. Thanks!
Yours in health,
James Allison
Sunstone Herbals
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From: INGRID
Margaret,
I have had 2 friends in the past year with shingles, and I provided CS to
both, with excellent results. If your granddaughter exhibits the rash,
try soaking a clean papertowel with CS and using it as a compress
directly on the rash. My friends reported that the pain stopped on
contact.
Ivan,I use a Hach spectrophotometer for ionic
measurements.
The measurement of conductivity changes with time.
According to my data plots the final conductivity may
be 50 uS/cm, but with in a few hours it is about half
that number.
If you have Wplot32.exe I can send you some
interesting plots.
Margaret,
I don't know enough about cs to give you an answer, but was curious about
the shingles... did your granddaughter receive the chickenpox vaccine? I am
hearing more and more children getting shingles (something historically that
was an older person's illness and one that you could
Well, that's why so many of us buy generators with current limiting and auto
shut off. Without those, every batch will be different, as no matter how much
you try you will never eliminate all the variables. And without current
limiting you had better be there and watch the process (don't burn
I try adress for silver wire(ablea...@atlasnova.com)
It was kicked back is the wire still available
What is price
Bob
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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSGood source
Hi there. It would appear that we both have the same generator. I however no
longer make cs that has any sludge in it with the same generator. At first I
would follow the instructions that came with the book and I would make a 16
ounce glass of cs in an hour. I would have to interupt the
Ozone water is supposed to have real health benefits. Lets see, ozonated olive
oil, ozone sauna, and some other stuff.
Saul Pressman is pretty expert on the subject. Hangs on the oxyplus list. They
discuss a lot of alternative health treatments.
Whatever Walmart carries.
Marshall
Robb Allen wrote:
Marshall..do you know what brand she switched to?there
are only two choices on the websiteincidently I just made another
order and I switched to the opti brandI was taking
LignisulRobb
- Original
RE: CSGood source of silver wireyou have a typo in your url...
abela...@atlasnova.com
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From: Medwith, Robert
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: CSGood source of silver wire
I try adress for
why are some people adding msm to their silver water? what is the connection?
also, will msm penetrate the skin like dmso?
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Marshall..do you know what brand she switched to?there are only two
choices on the websiteincidently I just made another order and I switched
to the opti brandI was taking LignisulRobb
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From: Marshall Dudley
To:
How does MSM cause HERX?does it kill
something?Robb
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From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: CSMSM
Robb,
My guess is that what you are going through is a Herxheimer
What I would recommend for you, Dude, is a large dose of Sobriety.
It is known to cure a variety of ills. Acquiring this essence is usually
quite costly and it is rarely found on the internet. However, most have
found it well worth the cost and effort to acquire. Since it is not readily
Does anyone here have information related to using CS before/after kidney
transplant surgery? My sister will soon be placed on the transplant list with
end stage renal failure...no dialysis yet... but that should begin very
soon...close family members seem to have the same problem...it's
Try the following link. It should take you right into Arnold Belands store at
Ebay. I already purchased some silver wire from him and I am very pleased not
only with the quality of the wire but also with the speed it was delivered to
me. Good luck and good health
I could use some input on this subject.
My Granddaughter was born with a ear problem and had to have tubes inserted
in the ear canal. The medical people have said, 1. they will have to be
removed when she is older. 2. They (the tubes) do not need to be taken out.
Tissue will grow around them.
Yes, I am familiar with the ear conditions you describe. Both my sons had the
same operation, and I would not hesitate to give them CS had I known about it
then (30 years ago). I had the same type of ear problems when I was a kid,
with constant ear aches, so I'm sensitive to that kind of
I don't know about the silver, but have read in more than one place that food
allergy underlies this problem in most cases.
http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/theroleoffoodallergiesinearinfections/
My suggestion is to later try eliminating some of the major food allergens,
which are:
Milk
Thank you. I have forwarded your story and instruction to my daughter.
John.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Missett
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS and ear infection
Yes, I am familiar with the ear conditions you
Thank you for your reply. I have forwarded it to my daughter. I'm sure she
could do without some of the items mentioned, as she eats every one of them:^)
John.
- Original Message -
From: Wetterauer, Letitia [MWPS]
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:06 PM
Dear Robb,
At the MSM levels you are taking, surges in
detoxification are quite likely. We experienced very similar reactions among
our volunteer populations during our rather extensive evaluations of MSM
ingestionseveral years ago.
There is a source of MSM at sure-nutrition.com available locally at Tractor
Supply Corporation. It is produced by Farnum and is supposedly for veterinary
purposes (horses), but is 99% pure, at $16 odd dollars the pound and there is a
factory coupon for $3 off. As teenagers, we used a lot of
Kathy,
My daughter had a kidney transplant 6 years ago-this coming June. I have used
homemade LVDC CS on her for the past 3 years, with some absolutely tremendous
results. I am more than willing to share any information or experiences I
have. Feel free to contact me offlist, and I can answer
Hion the website MSM is about 9 dollars for a pound...and if you buy
more...the price goes downif you bought 55 pounds it would only
cost 4.80 a pound or something like that...Robb
- Original Message -
From: Albert Peirce
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Look into ear candles.They should help.
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From: JohnWallis
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: CSCS and ear infection
I could use some input on this subject.
My Granddaughter was born with a ear problem and had to
In a message dated 4/11/03 6:42:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, t...@alltel.net
writes:
. 2. They (the tubes) do not need to be taken out. Tissue will grow
around them.
Sorry, I cannot answer your question but, When my son was 4-5 years old he
had ear tubes put in for infections. One did
PLUS $5.70 shopping for 1 pound!! Apples and oranges, please! $15.20 total for
lignisol which was panned by you yourself!! Regards, Al...
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From: Robb Allen
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSMSM/SOURCES
Hi,
My name is Mary Anna; I am new to the group and learning I might add...My Dh is
having terrible knee pain; he needs a knee replacement but the physician will
wait till he is in his 60's so that the replacement will last his
lifetime...Nevertheless, he need help..He is taking Glucosamine
OOPS..sorry Kathie, about the misspelling of your name. It's been a long
day. ~:-}
I also realized that I didn't answer your basic question. Yes, CS will help
with infections post transplant. I haven't found it to have any effect on my
daughters rejection, except indirectly (by
t...@alltel.net wrote:
Look into ear candles.They should help.
How will ear candles help?
Thanks.
Regards,
Catherine
Uh,OH...
Duck Cover!!!
Chuck
Oh, no! Not ANOTHER learning experience!
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:16:35 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:
t...@alltel.net wrote:
Look into ear candles.They should help.
How will ear candles help?
Thanks.
Hi Brooks,
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 00:20:45 -0500, Brooks Bradley
brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Dear Dean,
Our research DOES NOT bear out the efficacy of your Referenced
researcher's claims.
I didn't provide that reference. I was complaining that the
For joint pain, I injest a teaspoon of MSM dissolved in a glass of water.
I would also use DMSO applied to the joint.
I would expect instant relief.
Chuck
Press any key...no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE!
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:53:27 -0500, Maryanna
Farnum is very reputable. They also own Vita-Flex, another large
animal/horse nutritional line. Vita-Flex also has MSM and it is great.
Please send your experiences to the list as I feel sure everyone is as
interested as I am, which is a lot. pj
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Dear Sir/ Madam,
I am very confused and am in desperate need of some help if you can!!! I have
just bought three CS generators, one for my parents, one for my nan and the
other for me. I have been on the internet for the past two days trying to
research the correct amount that should/ could be
prety much just go with your gut. if you have some type of sicknes you want to
get rid of go with a higher ppm. start with say 10pm. i believe after 4-5 days
you should be feling the complete benefits i sopose. then gradualy go up if its
not what you want. i have learned this more is not always
Hi Tamarand,
First, I have to say you paid too much for what you got. Second, use only
distilled water. Third, it is okay to clean the wires. Use the green scrubber
side of a kitchen sponge. Fourth, your colloidal silver should be clear --
after it rests for a day or two it might turn a slight
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