Re: [Simh] VMS/VDE: Almost there

2015-10-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:42 PM, John Forecast wrote: > > On Oct 7, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> ... >> > Phase II use NSP v3.1 so that’s probably another indication that it’s a > Phase I product. That would be an interesting

Re: [Simh] VMS/VDE: Almost there

2015-10-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote: > > On 2015-10-08 15:57, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:42 PM, John Forecast <j...@forecast.name> wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2015

Re: [Simh] Comments WRT to IP vs ISO and OSI model

2015-10-07 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > Right. I suspect Rich was actually thinking of the 7 layer OSI model, which > DEC tried really hard to implement. > ​insert >>eventually<< in there

Re: [Simh] VMS/VDE: Almost there

2015-10-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >>> ... >> Phase II use NSP v3.1 so that’s probably another indication that it’s a >> Phase I product. > > John, maybe you can clear some things up for me. > Looking at the Wikipedia article about DECnet, it claims

Re: [Simh] fprint_sym and parse_sym limitation

2015-09-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:24 AM, J. David Bryan <jdbr...@acm.org> wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 20:17, Paul Koning wrote: > >> I'd do: if (cpu_reg[addr].flags & REG_IR) ... > > OK, that's a reasonable approach. > > You might wish to write a

[Simh] fprint_sym and parse_sym limitation

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Koning
As currently defined, fprint_sym and parse_sym are invoked strangely when processing a register value. From looking at the code, I can see that for this case, the "addr" argument is set to the register radix, and SIM_SW_REG is set in the switches word. It may be desirable to format or parse

Re: [Simh] fprint_sym and parse_sym limitation

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:05 PM, J. David Bryan <jdbr...@acm.org> wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 14:01, Paul Koning wrote: > >> It may be desirable to format or parse values differently for >> different registers. As it stands, that's not possible beca

Re: [Simh] fprint_sym and parse_sym limitation

2015-09-23 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <m...@infocomm.com> > wrote: > > On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> ... >> Ok. This is another example of something undocumented. > > True. > > Meanwhile, I w

Re: [Simh] fprint_sym and parse_sym limitation

2015-09-23 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm <m...@infocomm.com> > wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> ... >> I'm going to make a stab at updating simh.doc with what I can see, and >> description of wha

[Simh] Command processing -- abbreviations and VM-supplied commands

2015-09-25 Thread Paul Koning
In doing a new simulator, I ran into an unexpected quirk of command parsing, in particular handling of VM-specific commands. The way it works is that a user command matches a command table entry if the user string is a prefix of the command in the table. And as soon as a match is found, the

Re: [Simh] telnet sim> console / remote controlling the sim via python

2015-09-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Mark Benson wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a vague recollection of seeing and/or using this feature, but it might > have been an independent mod, but is there facility to access the sim> > console via telnet? Everything else is telnet-able, it

Re: [Simh] SIMH and Compiler Profiling

2015-12-08 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Henry Bent wrote: > > Hi all, > > ... > Results, higher numbers are better:... > As you can see, the performance improvements are fairly dramatic, with gcc > improving an average of 66%. Of course, one benchmark is not necessarily >

Re: [Simh] Old school programming with wiresnips and a question about debugging standalone assembly

2015-12-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Alan Frisbie wrote: > > On 12/16/2015 03:51 PM, Will Senn wrote: > >> If it doesn't come through imagine a guy with a pair of > > wire cutters snipping off diodes from a ROM card for a PDP11. > > Is this really how y'all programmed back

Re: [Simh] Graphics Terminals and Graphic System Phototypesetters

2015-12-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > Simulation of the output of early phototypesetters, or a Gerber photoplotter > is a little tricky because you need the glyph information that was printed on > the mechanism that shot the images of the characters onto

Re: [Simh] Graphics Terminals and Graphic System Phototypesetters

2015-12-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Quentin North wrote: > > >> >>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Will Senn wrote: >>> ... >>> Is is possible to simulate a graphics terminal in SimH for the >>> PDP-11/40/45/70. So far, I have been able to get a text

Re: [Simh] Graphics Terminals and Graphic System Phototypesetters

2015-12-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Will Senn wrote: > ... > Is is possible to simulate a graphics terminal in SimH for the > PDP-11/40/45/70. So far, I have been able to get a text console working (I > think it's a Teletype ASR-33) and serial consoles (DCI). I have seen some

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > <captainkirk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 3 January 2016 at 16:42, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: >> No, that's not what that means. >> >> It does say that micro diagnos

Re: [Simh] exit fig-forth monitor in RST/E

2016-01-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > > ... > This Forth implementation is a port of Fig-FORTH by John S. James, with some > RSTS-specific magic added. I just realized the file header says that it is > in the public domain, so

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 2, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > As the subject line says, there's an issue with the DMC device under > RSTS/E 10.1-L. > > When starting the system, when it does the hardware scan, the > following errors are printed on the TTI/TTO

Re: [Simh] exit fig-forth monitor in RST/E

2016-01-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > On 3 January 2016 at 14:20, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> I never saw the FORTH RTS, but that is pretty cool. I'm absolutely sure >> there must be a way to switch to another RTS from

Re: [Simh] exit fig-forth monitor in RST/E

2016-01-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > ... > That's neat learning the history of it. I didn't know why DEC had > included a FORTH RTS nor what the SDA.4TH program actually was (I had > guessed that ODT.4TH was related in some what to

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > Well, I was attempting it with RSTS/E since the "XM0: is missing > ECO's, but will still function." error implies that the DMC11 device > would still function. I turned on debug for the DMC device

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > Just an addendum because I think I may not have been too clear: > > On 4 January 2016 at 00:03, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: >> Also, this might be more my

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:51 AM, Mark Pizzolato <m...@infocomm.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> ...That is with two DMCs pointing at each other: >> >> sim> show dmc >> DMC lines=2, connectpoll=2, address=17760

Re: [Simh] SIMH console settings for escape sequence support

2016-01-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > > I've noticed that terminal handling on the SIMH console with RSTS/E was never > quite right; it would not do "set terminal/inquire" and editing keys that > produce escape sequences wo

Re: [Simh] Multiple telnet ports in SimH to RSTS/E 9.6

2016-01-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 12/31/15 2:10 PM, Will Senn wrote: >> >> Paul Koning set me straight on figuring out that DZ, as configured, was >> actually working. Duh, press RETURN twice to get BAUD d

Re: [Simh] SIMH console settings for escape sequence support

2016-01-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Mark Pizzolato <m...@infocomm.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> I've noticed that terminal handling on the SIMH console with RSTS/E was >> never quite right; it would not do "set te

Re: [Simh] Multiple telnet ports in SimH to RSTS/E 9.6

2016-01-02 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:20 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote: > > On 2016-01-01 23:01, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1

Re: [Simh] The minutiae of hardware/software interactions affecting SIMH

2016-01-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Armistead, Jason BIS > wrote: > > On the topic of Configuring DMC11 Devices, while discussing wait delays Mark > Pizzolato recently wrote: > > > Sounds reasonable. I've got to see if I can find the reason the delay was > > initially

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

2016-01-06 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > ... > As for transferring files to and from your RSTS/E system, you do know of > KERMIT, right? Telnet into the RSTS/E system, start a kermit server there, > switch back to your local kermit, and then send/receive

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

2016-01-06 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Timothe Litt <l...@ieee.org> wrote: > > On 06-Jan-16 10:51, Paul Koning wrote: >> 4. Disk. Years ago I wrote a program "rstsflx" that can read and write >> RSTS disk images. It should still be around; if not I should b

Re: [Simh] Multiple telnet ports in SimH to RSTS/E 9.6

2015-12-31 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > I am not able to figure out what devices to enable in SimH PDP-11 to get > multiple telnet connections in RSTS/E 9.6. > > I'm using a PDP-11/73 with 4megs of memory and I have the console configured: > > SET CONSOLE

Re: [Simh] SIMH console settings for escape sequence support

2015-12-31 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Random832 <random...@fastmail.com> wrote: > > Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> writes: >> I've noticed that terminal handling on the SIMH console with RSTS/E >> was never quite right; it would not do "set terminal/inq

Re: [Simh] Multiple telnet ports in SimH to RSTS/E 9.6

2015-12-31 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... > Paul Koning set me straight on figuring out that DZ, as configured, was > actually working. Duh, press RETURN twice to get BAUD detected properly, then > all is right in the world. The othe

Re: [Simh] Multiple telnet ports in SimH to RSTS/E 9.6

2015-12-31 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 12/31/15 2:26 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Will Senn <will.s...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> Paul Koning set me str

Re: [Simh] VT100 Color of text

2016-01-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Will Senn wrote: > > All, > > Having very vague recollects of having ever seen a real VT100, I came across > the following picture while doing some research on RT-11: > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/RT-11_help.jpg >

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E 10.1-L and Paper tape

2016-01-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > All, > > The simulated paper tape device is very handy to copy text around between a > host and simulated environment. My question for the group is, does RSTS/E > 10.1-L support the paper tape device? The documentation

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Mark Pizzolato <m...@infocomm.com> wrote: > > On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Mark Pizzolato <m...@infocomm.com> wrote: >>> I vaguely remember that someth

Re: [Simh] Non-numeric character in IBM 1620 P & Q addresses

2015-12-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 23, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Bob Supnik wrote: > > There's nothing conditional about the user documentation. The 1965 reference > manual says, "MARS (Memory Address Register Storage) Check Light. This light > is turned on when a digit in MARS has a parity error or an

Re: [Simh] Non-numeric character in IBM 1620 P & Q addresses

2015-12-25 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 25, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Bob Supnik wrote: > > It's worse than that. The detailed logic is shown on 227-5631-0 pp 188ff. The > decode chart for each decode switch (DSW) is: > > DSW 0 > DSW 10001 > DSW 20010 > DSW 3X011 > DSW 4

Re: [Simh] Writeup of PDP-11 bootstrap loader analysis

2015-12-23 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 23, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > > > On 12/23/15 5:09 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> >> As for your analysis: >> Your explanation of branches seems somewhat over complicated. The >> instruction is indeed in just 8 bits, while 8 bits are the offset.

Re: [Simh] DEC Pro 350 Emulator

2016-06-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 4, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > I'm not sure exactly which chip is on the controller itself, but that's not > really so relevant. You do not talk directly to the chip anyway. The Pro > controller is called DECNA, and it has it's own programming

Re: [Simh] DEC Pro 350 Emulator

2016-06-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > ... > It depends. teledisk, as well as ImageDisk, is a tool you run on a PC. > Assuming that PC have a 1.2M 5.25" floppy, this tool can then try to write > RX50 format floppies on that hardware, based on information

Re: [Simh] DEC Pro 350 Emulator

2016-06-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:07 PM, Tony Nicholson > wrote: > > ... > I wasn't aware there was a version of RSTS for the Pro - is this available > anywhere? It was a "midnight project" as we used to call it. I added Pro support to RSTS 9.3 or thereabouts, and merged

Re: [Simh] Question about card readers.

2016-05-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 26, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Quentin North wrote: > > I wonder whether OP is referring to a situation where there is a 96 character > line, such as a programming language statement, and that the first 80 > characters would be on a card and then the remaining 16

Re: [Simh] Question about card readers.

2016-05-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 26, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mark Pizzolato > wrote: > I agree. If this whole discussion is about if a simulated card reader device > interface should try to magically

Re: [Simh] DEC Pro 350 Emulator

2016-05-30 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 30, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons > wrote: > > Hello, > > Is anyone aware of this? > > http://xhomer.isani.org/xhomer/xhomer.html > > Just checked it, compiled it under OSX (with a minor modification to the > makefile) and it works (well,

[Simh] Forth for RSTS

2016-06-23 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 3, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > > ... > This Forth implementation is a port of Fig-FORTH by John S. James, with some > RSTS-specific magic added. I just realized the file header says that it is > in the public domain, so

Re: [Simh] OSs with accessible documentation

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 6, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > > ... > I think Tesseract is pretty close to the quality of ABBYY. Google has > trained it on a very large corpus and it's used for Google Books, Google > Drive OCR, etc, so it gets a fair amount of attention. Of course,

Re: [Simh] Sounds

2016-02-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > > ... > After looking just a few minutes at the screen, I looked up again ... > the RK07 had moved again some 4 inches! > > I guess that those big drives like the RK07 , RM80 and RM03 really > should be placed on

Re: [Simh] OSs with accessible documentation

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > Some of the PDFs on bitsavers are searchable. It would be a good > project to OCR the rest into searchable pdfs - as that also means that > the text can be extracted. OCR is getting good enough (finally) that > it's

Re: [Simh] Macro-11 Macro library question (RT11 running in SimH PDP11)

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Will Senn wrote: > > All, > > A couple of questions: > > ... > lib/mac/c tin tin > macro et2/list/cross+tin.mlb/lib > ?MACRO-E-Errors detected: 2 > DK:ET2,DK:ET2/C=DK:ET2,DK:TIN.SML Try putting the macro library earlier in the command

Re: [Simh] Macro-11 Macro library question (RT11 running in SimH PDP11)

2016-02-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 5, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > ... > Also, there might be some issues (possibly) since you use + to provide > several files. I *think* that the '+' operator in general would imply that > the files are concatenated together, and a comma might be a

Re: [Simh] [OT] What's the difference between the 1990 Brunner VAX Architecture book and the Leonard from 1987?

2016-01-28 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 28, 2016, at 5:28 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > Hi, > > Since there are some ex-DEC people here and many people knowledgeable in > VAX can anybody tell me the [major] differences between these books if any? > The Brunner book is very expensive, the 1987 copy is very affordable.

Re: [Simh] PDP11 oddity with RSTS 9.6

2016-02-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Gene Irwin <girwin1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello guys, >> >> I have tried simh 3.9 and 4.0 and have this odd issue. >>

Re: [Simh] PDP11 oddity with RSTS 9.6

2016-02-03 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Gene Irwin wrote: > > Hello guys, > > I have tried simh 3.9 and 4.0 and have this odd issue. > > I got a copy of a built rsts on rpo6, and the copies of the .tap files used > to gen this image. it is v9.6. > > If I boot the prebuilt hard

Re: [Simh] 8-bit pseudocolor on modern Windows PC?

2016-01-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > > ... > 2. Handle 8 bit color, *including* updating the look of the display > dynamically if ent

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > Thanks much. Yes I know you were speaking of assembly. I was just considering > history. I've always heard binary was first. What that might mean IDK. And > there was no evidence presented for that. It may just

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > Well that's certainly before ICs I think that was in the 1950s and it was > some early calculators that killed slide rules. What kind of "processor" were > they using? I'm not so sure there was real HLL before

Re: [Simh] NH14 and TR01

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > >> ... > CSS was also in Merimack. And the design engineer for this device was, > at last report, located there. That's why I > wrote CSS in MK rather than Nashua. Interesting... > ... > Pulse Height Analysis was the

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote: > > On 2016-02-27 20:57, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks much. Yes I know you

Re: [Simh] NH14 and TR01

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > >> Timothe, >> >> >> This list that you published an excerpt from, it it available online >> somewhere? >> >> I am curious to understand what the DEC options NH14 and TR01 were? >> >> Are they listed there as well? >> >

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-28 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > >> >> BTW, I think that plugboard programming, other than for some business >> applications with IBM "accounting machines", disappeared rather quickly as >> Von Neumann machines appeared. That too would be interesting to

Re: [Simh] RD10 is probably not the Burroughs IA2

2016-02-28 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > On 27-Feb-16 14:19, Bob Supnik wrote: >> Thanks, Tim. Burroughs made a lot of fixed head disks at the time. I >> can't identify the model, but the IA2 (see page 7-4 of the B6700 >> Hardware Handbook, on bitsavers) seems like

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-29 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:21 AM, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 17:32:19 -0500 > Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Decimal did show up at times even into the 1960s, for example in the IBM >> 1620. But it never made all th

Re: [Simh] KS10 IMP documentation

2016-02-29 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > ... > I created a printer class driver layer for simh when I did PDF output for all > the emulators, but that went into a black hole of "more is not enough" and > did not find its way into simh/master. I looked at

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Nigel Williams > wrote: > Perhaps not unusual for the 1960s but laborious none-the-less. > > ​Depends who you are. For grins look for the original Cray-1

Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix

2016-02-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > Or program in binary. Like originally. I'm not so sure about that. I have documents from as early as 1948 showing programming in machine language, though each of these use decimal numbers for the opcodes and

Re: [Simh] RT-11 Storage Strategy

2016-02-22 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Johnny Billquist <b...@softjar.se> wrote: > > On 2016-02-21 16:51, Paul Koning wrote: >> ... >> True in principle. But a number of OS used a different file structure for >> DECtape than for disks -- because of the performance i

Re: [Simh] Overwrite last track and set badblocks

2016-01-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > Hi Will, > > On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Will Senn wrote: >> A quick couple of questions... >> >> 1. Why does SimH prompt to overwrite the last track on some images every >> time it runs, even if I let

Re: [Simh] On {O,D}DDT

2016-01-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 2:27 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > >> ... > An early DDT manual (~ 1970, but I've lost the colophon page) explains the > DDT situation thusly: > > INTRODUCTION > DDT-10 (for Dynamic Debugging Technique) * long page > > In very small print, smaller than I

Re: [Simh] RX50 disks

2016-01-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > I’m guessing here, but consider this: The SIMH disk image format is one > where the bytes of data are completely in “logical” sector order. All disk > images connected to the RQ device (even RX50 floppies) are

Re: [Simh] Overwrite last track and set badblocks

2016-01-22 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Will Senn wrote: > > ... > OK. I figured some of this out... > > In RT-11v5.3 if I have the following ini section for a disk: > set rl1 writeenabled > attach rl1 storage.dsk > > And I say no initially to the prompt: > Overwrite last track?

Re: [Simh] simh on RaspBerry Pi

2016-02-15 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Wilm Boerhout wrote: > > Will Senn schreef op 15-2-2016 om 14:26 > > [snip] > >> Are you documenting the setup process for your endeavors, or just blogging >> about the result? I think it would be interesting to see how you clustered >>

Re: [Simh] simh on RaspBerry Pi

2016-02-15 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Wilm Boerhout <wboerh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Paul Koning schreef op 15-2-2016 om 16:15: > > [snip] >>> There are three parts to a successful setup: >>> >>> 1. Since each Pi has only one Ethernet interface, make

Re: [Simh] Assembler programming under Unix - was VAX/VMS

2016-02-15 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Kevin Handy wrote: > > Any more, with the optimizing compilers we have today, it doesn't make much > sense to use machine language for most program development. > 1. The compilers often produce better code that the average programmer would

Re: [Simh] VAX/VMS

2016-02-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2016-02-16 07:57, Wilm Boerhout wrote: >> Zane Healy schreef op 15-2-2016 om 18:20: >> >> [snip] >> >>> There are plenty of good VAX and VMS manuals out there, including the >>> documentation set. Check eBay and

Re: [Simh] VAX/VMS

2016-02-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > ... > Nonetheless, Brooks (@IBM) definitely gets credit for the first > commercial line of architecturally (forward) compatible machines. Prior > to that inspiration, every new machine was unique and most software > started

Re: [Simh] Simh Digest, Vol 145, Issue 52

2016-02-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2016-02-16 17:43, li...@openmailbox.org wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:40:09 -0500 >> William Pechter wrote: >> >>> Actually, one of DEC's biggest mistakes was not OEMing the uVax chips... >>>

Re: [Simh] VAX/VMS

2016-02-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Rhialto wrote: > > On Tue 16 Feb 2016 at 08:58:11 -0500, Clem Cole wrote: >> Dave be careful -- S/360 Model 67 has VM in the late 1960's - TSS and >> it's brother MTS, both rely on it. The 67 is a Model 65 with a Data >> Address Translation

Re: [Simh] What is CDC OS?

2016-02-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > > Will Senn asks on the list on Tue, 16 Feb 2016 > 12:47:12 -0600 about CDC operating systems. > > I worked quite happily on a CDC 6400 from 1973 to 1977. Initially, we > had the SCOPE

Re: [Simh] Recent build crashes on OSX

2016-02-17 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > On 17-Feb-16 14:48, Michael Huff wrote: >> I grabbed simh_master.zip from github yesterday and compiled it on OSX >> and in a virtualbox instance of Linux Mint 17. OSX is the native OS, >> Linux is in a VM. >> >> I have a

Re: [Simh] RT-11 Storage Strategy

2016-02-17 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Larry Baker wrote: > > If you really want the RT-11 experience, try running it off RX01 floppies. > My first experience with DEC PDP-11's was a PDP-11/34 (not 34A; no FPU) > running RT-11 off floppies. Ka-klunk, ka-klunk! Yes, but that's still

Re: [Simh] Recent build crashes on OSX

2016-02-17 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Howard Bussey wrote: > > Googling “Process PTE …” shows this occurred before: > > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/pipermail/simh/2010-May/010760.html > > The suggestion was to try turning off optimization when compiling simh… In that

Re: [Simh] Reading directly from console in RT-11

2016-02-20 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > Given the following test program that I wrote (GETC.MAC): > > .title getc > >.mcall.exit > > TKS = 177560 > TKB = 177562 > ;TPS = 177564 > ;TPB = 177566 > > begin: >incTKS;set the ASR read

Re: [Simh] Reading directly from console in RT-11

2016-02-20 Thread Paul Koning
> On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Will Senn wrote: > > Great answer and helpful. I'll give both approaches a shot. If I understand > my environment correctly, RT-11 is single user, single job (well, most of the > time anyway). So, it oughta be safe enough to try this

Re: [Simh] HP 3000 Terminals

2016-03-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2016-03-10 06:33, Zachary Kline wrote: >> More to the point, is their anything an HP terminal emulator could give me >> that regular Telnet wouldn’t? > > You are comparing apples and oranges. A terminal emulator

Re: [Simh] Disk info request

2016-03-10 Thread Paul Koning
Some more notes... > On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > Name SecSiz Sec/Tk Tk/Cy Cyls Capacity LBNs Delta > RK05 512 12 2 2032494464 4872 2.379 MB37 The book says "200 cylinders plus 3 spare". I

Re: [Simh] Disk info request

2016-03-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:31 PM, dun...@caltech.edu wrote: > >> Name SecSiz Sec/Tk Tk/Cy Cyls Capacity LBNs > Delta >> RL01 512 40 2 256 10485760 20480 10.000 MB > 121 >> RL02 512 40 2 512 20971520 40960 20.000 MB

Re: [Simh] RTS/8 and DECnet

2016-03-15 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 15, 2016, at 5:47 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > ... > I don't remember who I talk to, but it might have been Paul, but it appears > DECnet-8 is pretty much Phase I, from what we figured out. Maybe DEC wrote > some newer version that have not been found, since

Re: [Simh] networking support

2016-03-14 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Rich Alderson <s...@alderson.users.panix.com> > wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> >> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:01:02 -0500 > > [in response to a statement that only the PDP-11 and VAX simulators have &

Re: [Simh] networking support

2016-03-14 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > <captainkirk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 14 March 2016 at 17:19, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote: >> No, I was referring to KMC/DUP support. I was just experimenting with that >> (TOPS-20

Re: [Simh] Disk info request

2016-03-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Timothe Litt wrote: > > In the process of debugging the ODS2 utility, it became clear that the > disk geometry really does matter. > And it's not available in simulator images -- or even for physical > devices -- at runtime. > > Below is a list of

Re: [Simh] networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > Are there any plans by the developers and maintainers to add networking > support to any of the simulators that do not have it? AFAIK pdp11 and vax are > the only two that have networking support. pdp10

Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support

2016-03-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Bob Supnik wrote: > > ... > A number of systems of the early 70s (including the CDC 6600 and the XDS > Sigma) had one-off interfaces to ARPAnet, using specialized IMPs, but the > implementations are lost. CDC 60-bit mainframes also had a

Re: [Simh] Disk info request

2016-03-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2016-03-09 16:50, hb wrote: >> On 03/09/2016 09:53 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >>> Do VMS and ODS-2 really try to figure out a geometry per disk for MSCP >>> disks??? >> >> The ODS2 utility needs to "mount" the

Re: [Simh] Setting DECSERVER 90L to factory defaults

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Koning
Not clear. Another issue is that the 90 and 900 series devices come in plastic cases that are quite hard to open, especially if you want the case to survive the experience. Bob, is there a small hole somewhere in the case? There might be a button inside intended to be actuated by a

Re: [Simh] retrieving previous SIMH commits?

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Jack Rubin wrote: > > The behavior of SerialDisk, a virtual disk server for the PDP8, changed > somewhere with recent versions of SIMH. There was a 'define' problem that > Mark cleared up almost immediately this afternoon but the broken behavior

Re: [Simh] simh and dos

2016-03-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 19, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > > Simh will probably never emulate a more modern system. At least not the main > distro. That's not simh's purpose to my knowledge. MSDOS just isn't old > enough :) The point isn't so much the OS as the machine.

Re: [Simh] TU-56

2016-03-24 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: >> On 24 March 2016 at 18:13, Bill Cunningham wrote: >>>My apologies for posting carlessly and not entering a

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