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Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2002 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slackware anybody?
I have been using slackware on my gateway/firewall machne for the better
part of a yer i think, it originated as rh5 then slack 4
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slackware anybody?
I have been using slackware on my gateway/firewall machne for the better
part of a yer i think, it originated as rh5 then slack 4 now slack8, its
good it stays up for days/weeks/months on end (subject to power outages). I
had no problem getting
Of Penguin
Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2002 7:31 PM
To: Alan Vink; Karl Clements; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slackware anybody?
Hmm, now I am not sure what to do ;)
I haven't moved away from Debian, just thinking about it. I am very
particular about a nice tight base
Yeah I will be having ISDN 128K installed next week, and this is the reason
I'm getting more paranoid. Several people I trust who know a lot about Linux
and stuff have suggested exactly what you do, to use an old 486 as a
firewall. What's NAT? Why do I need it?
Yeppers I'm convinced I will be
On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 07:31:23PM +1100, Penguin wrote:
Well, what I mean is that I need XFree 4.0.1 or higher, and when I try to
install these required XFree things at 4.1, it never works! I asked several
times if I had to install in a particular order, and it still says I can't do
it.
NAT would allow the work station to access the internet through the 486, look up
howto's on IPMASQUERADING
As for the setup there are a few ways you could do it, you can plug the 486 and the
workstation into the hub as well as the on ramp.
you could put 2 NIC's in the 486 and plug the onramp
On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 12:38:41PM +1100, Alan Vink wrote:
It is important to understand what you are doing when using any distro,
with the more efficient or modern as someone called it distros - it is
possible for people that do not understand to go wild and install services
and apps with
On Sat, 2002-01-05 at 19:31, Penguin wrote:
I haven't moved away from Debian, just thinking about it. I am very
particular about a nice tight base system, and just installing the stuff I
want, apart from KDE. The thing with Debian is that it sucks majorly for
modern PCs. I have an nVidia
quote who=Karl Clements
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has given the
world?
People who don't give a shit. They're not idiots, they just don't care.
Linux is not intended as a desktop os, sure the desktop has come a long
way, but its not there yet. Most of the
On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 08:54:37PM +1100, Karl Clements wrote:
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has
given the world?
Well, look at the idiotic number of mechanics that cars have
given to the world. I don't know a carborator from a cylinder.
I reckon I drive alright,
quote who=Andre Pang
I don't know a carborator from a cylinder. I reckon I drive alright,
although.
I can't even spell it! Ask me to spell carburettor! Go on... See?
Couldn't resist. :)
- Jeff
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No clue is good clue.
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On Sat, 2002-01-05 at 19:55, Penguin wrote:
Yeah I will be having ISDN 128K installed next week, and this is the reason
I'm getting more paranoid. Several people I trust who know a lot about Linux
and stuff have suggested exactly what you do, to use an old 486 as a
firewall. What's NAT?
Bah you all whinge too much.
snip
On 0, Karl Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has given the world?
/snip
I thank the lord every day for this. Its idiots such as these that, to some extent,
keep us all gainfully employed in often
On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 08:54:37PM +1100, Karl Clements wrote:
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has given the
world?
...
until that happens linux belongs as a server, or as a desktop for someone
with half a clue.
This raises an interesting point.
Think of the last
reply who=Jeff Waugh date=Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:15:06 +1100
quote who=Karl Clements
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has given the
world?
People who don't give a shit. They're not idiots, they just don't care.
Linux is not intended as a desktop os, sure the
reply who=Dane date=Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:56:08 +1100
Bah you all whinge too much.
snip
On 0, Karl Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has given the world?
/snip
I thank the lord every day for this. Its idiots such as these that,
quote who=Karl Clements
What would a complete reworking of X to make it more efficient do?
it could perhaps improve the speed of x, improve configurability, better
config files, improve ease of use etc etc
Throw away years of work, optimisation, understanding of the protocol, and
platform
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 12:54:20AM +1100, Karl Clements wrote:
reply who=Andre Pang date=Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:19:20 +1100
...
What were you doing on KDE that was so much slower? KMail was
slow? Konqueror? I don't believe that KDE is that much slower
than Win2K given the same hardware (or
About the KDE issue, He was probably using XFree86 4 when it first came out and KDE1.1
or something. This was about the time of Mandrake 7 which was very slow using KDE as
well.
Using a more modern version of both XFree86 and KDE would be a much more rewarding
experience.
Chris
On Sun, 6
reply who=Christopher Booth date=Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:44:01 +1100
About the KDE issue, He was probably using XFree86 4 when it first came out and
KDE1.1 or something. This was about the time of Mandrake 7 which was very slow using
KDE as well.
Using a more modern version of both XFree86 and
I can't believe you tried compiling mozilla from source! Gutsy move.
Mozilla, IMO, is a very good graphical browser. Not to say that Konqueror
isn't too - I just don't use it regularly, so can't comment. Anyway, I'd
recommend installing mozilla from a binary package.
I did more than try,
In addition to the previously mentioned problems i haven't found a decent browser
for X as yet, i compiled mozilla it didn't install to where i told it to, i compiled
skipstone once it was installed it didn't run at all (gtkmozembed error) opera was
dodgey, netscape was hella slow.
Karl
I
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 10:19:12AM +1100, Karl Clements wrote:
You could get mozilla to automatically launch when you log in. This is
what I do (and, incidentally, what mswindows does behind your back).
How does one do this?
I've been using window maker with gnome lately, and both of
This one time, at band camp, Karl Clements wrote:
Look at the number of idiot computer users windows and mac has given the world?
Look at the number of moron drivers $car_manufacturer has given the world!
Who cares?
Linux is not intended as a desktop os, sure the desktop has come a long way,
This one time, at band camp, Karl Clements wrote:
this is true, it can just be highly annoying getting a call from someone who can't
work out how to check their email.
Welcome to the real world, buddy.
2k ran better on this than slack8 with kde, although that was easy fixed with a
change of
quote who=gnudev
and generally, are there any major high points of Slack over others?
Amount of time wasted administering a system would be a 'high' point.
Slackware is for masochists and people who haven't migrated to a modern
distribution yet - what is it that attracted you to it?
[ By all
* This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh said:
quote who=gnudev
and generally, are there any major high points of Slack over others?
Amount of time wasted administering a system would be a 'high' point.
Slackware is for masochists and people who haven't migrated to a modern
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 11:16:50PM +1000, gnudev wrote:
I would like to know some things about Slack, like if it has a package
manager,
It does, for its own Slackware package format (.tgz). It's
minimalist, but does the job well. Don't expect to download RPMs
or debs and have them work on
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 11:18:08PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
[ By all means try it, there's no point not being inquisitive, but I've yet
to see a solid benefit to using Slackware. ]
As I said in my last email, it's really simple.
Actually, a nice analogy is that its simplicity is like
quote who=Andre Pang
Whether that simplicity is worth not having such things like advanced
package management is another question :).
Our software is getting more complex, faster. See Vector A. Our userbase is
getting further away from the system administrator / hacker demographic
(never
quote who=Andre Pang
(... and if you do want to pursue this topic, please do it on slug-chat.)
=-== zwoop.
- Jeff
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In some ways I consider Slackware to be a good training distribution. I run
into a lot of Linux users who are distribution dependant because the know
how to use a wizard, but not configure the real files that control things.
Hence the argument mentioned previously about Slackware not being a very
I have been using slackware on my gateway/firewall machne for the better part of a
yer i think, it originated as rh5 then slack 4 now slack8, its good it stays up for
days/weeks/months on end (subject to power outages). I had no problem getting it going
at all on my gateway
I also use slack8
: Saturday, 5 January 2002 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slackware anybody?
I have been using slackware on my gateway/firewall machne for the better
part of a yer i think, it originated as rh5 then slack 4 now slack8,
its good it stays up for days/weeks/months
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Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2002 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slackware anybody?
I have been using slackware on my gateway/firewall machne for the better
??? Many people stop there:~)
Regards,
Alan Vink
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Karl Clements
Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2002 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Slackware anybody?
I have been using
This one time, at band camp, Andre Pang wrote:
can I use an ISDN connection with it
Probably. Slackware should have packages to do the ISDN stuff;
if it doesn't, you can always download the source code for the
ISDN packages and compile it yourself. See the ISDN howto[1] for
more info. Note
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