Re: [Soekris] Which BIOS for net-4511?

2019-04-15 Thread Daniel Rauer
Hi. Well, it states "net45xx BIOS release", and as the hardware is almost the same I assume this will work. But backing up your current BIOS is probably a good idea, just in case :) Bye, Daniel On 15.04.19 22:05, Bryan wrote: > Thank you Daniel. I assume then that net-4501 BIOS will work for

Re: [Soekris] Which BIOS for net-4511?

2019-04-15 Thread Daniel Rauer
Hi. Here are them still available: http://beta.soekris.net/downloads.html Bye, Daniel On 15.04.19 19:45, Bryan wrote: > Hello Soekris-ites, > >   > > Does anyone know if the BIOS for the net-4801 is compatible with the > net-4511?   If not, is there a place to download the BIOS?  I am not >

Re: [Soekris] Which BIOS for net-4511?

2019-04-15 Thread Bryan
Thank you Daniel. I assume then that net-4501 BIOS will work for net-4511? -Original Message- From: Daniel Rauer [mailto:ra...@bytemine.net] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 1:47 PM To: Bryan; soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: Re: [Soekris] Which BIOS for net-4511? Hi. Here are them

[Soekris] Which BIOS for net-4511?

2019-04-15 Thread Bryan
Hello Soekris-ites, Does anyone know if the BIOS for the net-4801 is compatible with the net-4511? If not, is there a place to download the BIOS? I am not seeing them on wiki.soekris.info. Cheers! ___ Soekris-tech mailing list

Re: [Soekris] Soekris Net6501 alternatives.

2019-02-06 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:37 AM Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > Has anyone tried this: > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0741F634J > > product line as a replacement for the Soekris Net6501 use case? It > looks a little pricey but it also looks like its got enough CPU to run > the 1Gb

Re: [Soekris] Soekris Net6501 alternatives.

2019-02-06 Thread William Ahern
On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 01:37:05PM -0500, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > Has anyone tried this: > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0741F634J > > product line as a replacement for the Soekris Net6501 use case? It > looks a little pricey but it also looks like its got enough CPU to run

[Soekris] Soekris Net6501 alternatives.

2019-02-06 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
Has anyone tried this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0741F634J product line as a replacement for the Soekris Net6501 use case? It looks a little pricey but it also looks like its got enough CPU to run the 1Gb ethernet ports at full speed. I found this when this video:

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 03:30:01PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:04:02PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > > The problem is that there's basically no alternative to the net6501 on the > > market > > if you require 1U, fanless, small (short 1U enclosure), and a single PCIe >

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:42:38PM -0700, Bryan wrote: [ ...snip... ] > > Soekris is really missing out on this I think. As you mention, there is > still demand for the net6501 and nothing really available to replace it. > I think that if the demand were there, someone would have bought the

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:04:02PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: The problem is that there's basically no alternative to the net6501 on the market if you require 1U, fanless, small (short 1U enclosure), and a single PCIe slot. There are actually a lot more options these days for those

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Bryan
Hi Harold, Yeah, I have access to a decent rework machine but I'm not sure I want to tackle it. I do have a handful of 6501's to practice on though. LOL! Soekris is really missing out on this I think. As you mention, there is still demand for the net6501 and nothing really available to

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Harald Welte
Hi Bryan, On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 06:53:04AM -0700, Bryan wrote: > Is that even possible without wave technology? It's called "BGA rework" and it is possible with a BGA rework station [to which I have access to]. However, it's rather tricky and time-consuming, and you'd also have to find the

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Harald Welte [lafo...@gnumonks.org] wrote: > hi chirs, > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 06:37:16PM -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > > > Solder up a new CPU and you will likely have a working unit... > > Do you know something that I don't? From following the list archives > and other resources, it

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Bryan
Is that even possible without wave technology? -Original Message- From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Chris Cappuccio Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:37 PM To: Harald Welte Cc: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-31 Thread Harald Welte
hi chirs, On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 06:37:16PM -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > Solder up a new CPU and you will likely have a working unit... Do you know something that I don't? From following the list archives and other resources, it seemed that nobody really knew what was going on. Sure,

Re: [Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-30 Thread Chris Cappuccio
> That's it for now. Maybe this is useful to share. At this point I'm > not sure yet, if this will lead anywhere. > > When I find another timeslot, I want to compare a not-yet-broken board > with one that exhibits the problem. > Solder up a new CPU and you will likely have a working unit...

[Soekris] net6501 (Red Light Of Death) debugging

2019-01-30 Thread Harald Welte
Hi! The first of several net6501 units bought only 3 years ago are starting to show the "Red Light of Death" symptom. Being somebody who designs embedded electronics and software for a living, I thought I'd invest a (limited) amount of time into investigating this. The obvious thought is of

Re: [Soekris] So long and thanks for all the fish!

2018-12-04 Thread Geoff Adams
On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > […] headless reliable multi-interface > boxes, which I think these days is pc engines and edgerouters. Perhaps > some other-fruit Pi with multiple interfaces and enough ram. I’ve found the Netgate devices to be quite nice, too. When by net6501

Re: [Soekris] So long and thanks for all the fish!

2018-12-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Good luck and I have also appreciated the advice and camraderie of this list. I am running NetBSD, and my net5501 bought in 2011 is still working just fine. I am eyeing an apu4c4, which feels like it might be like a net8501 if such a thing existed and were reliable. But the edgerouter lite is

Re: [Soekris] So long and thanks for all the fish!

2018-12-01 Thread Bryan
Godspeed my friend! Octeon isn’t exactly new but it seems to have a long life. From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Chris McGee Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:48 PM To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: [Soekris]

Re: [Soekris] So long and thanks for all the fish!

2018-12-01 Thread Marco A. Calamari
On Fri, 2018-11-30 at 23:47 -0500, Chris McGee wrote: > About six years ago, I had a motherboard start to flake out in my home > firewall, which had always been an old gaming PC with a bunch of NICs and > OpenBSD- basically whatever hardware was free when the old one died. > > I decided the power

[Soekris] So long and thanks for all the fish!

2018-11-30 Thread Chris McGee
About six years ago, I had a motherboard start to flake out in my home firewall, which had always been an old gaming PC with a bunch of NICs and OpenBSD- basically whatever hardware was free when the old one died. I decided the power I was using to run those old desktops justified the expense of

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Nicolas writes: > Alleluïa, it's alive !!! > > Thank you all for your advice. > > The PSU was indeed faulty. I quickly tested the sokris box with a > similar PSU, and LEDs turned on !! > > I just need to find the right input jack (2.1x5.5 mm), and I'll have a > working net5501. You have a

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-09 Thread Nicolas
Alleluïa, it's alive !!! Thank you all for your advice. The PSU was indeed faulty. I quickly tested the sokris box with a similar PSU, and LEDs turned on !! I just need to find the right input jack (2.1x5.5 mm), and I'll have a working net5501. Regards Nicolas Le 2018-09-03 18:17,

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-03 Thread Luc Michel
Hi, Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 19:17, Nicolas a écrit : > > Thanks for those who offered me some solutions. > > I did test the power supply with the voltmeter, and it does display a > good 12 V between the pins. Testing the power supply with a voltmeter is not enough. It can be damaged in a way that

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-03 Thread Nicolas
Thanks for those who offered me some solutions. I did test the power supply with the voltmeter, and it does display a good 12 V between the pins. I think I remember that when I first tried to turn it on again, I had the Power and Error Leds that lit on for a few seconds, then nothing. Now,

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-03 Thread Bryan
Check the power supply with a voltmeter? -Original Message- From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 1:28 AM To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: [Soekris] RIP net5501 Hi I

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-03 Thread Flemming Frøkjær
I have used somewhere between 30 and 40 net5501, and not one have ever died. The power suplies though. I'd find a spare PSU and plug that in. On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:16 AM Boli wrote: > If dem blinkenlights blinken not, den checken sie das power > — > WCPGW? > > On 3 Sep 2018, at 10:27,

Re: [Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-03 Thread Boli
If dem blinkenlights blinken not, den checken sie das power — WCPGW? > On 3 Sep 2018, at 10:27, Nicolas wrote: > > Hi > > I bought you in 2009, but you didn't want to go over your 9th birthday... > > When I plug the power, you don't even want to turn any LED on, event for a > little blink. >

[Soekris] RIP net5501

2018-09-03 Thread Nicolas
Hi I bought you in 2009, but you didn't want to go over your 9th birthday... When I plug the power, you don't even want to turn any LED on, event for a little blink. I'm not good at debugging micro-electronics (unless test some points with a voltmeter), so I'm not sure how I could make

[Soekris] Free net4801 to Good Home (for shipping costs only)

2018-06-12 Thread Scott Vanderbilt
Before I dump this at the electronics recycler, I thought I would see if anyone wants it. Only asking for $15.00 shipping costs (via PayPal). Will ship well packed to any continental US address via USPS Priority Mail flat-rate box. Notes/caveats: - Model net4801-60 - Was working just fine

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-06-04 Thread Paride Legovini
Paride Legovini wrote on 26/02/2018: > On 2018-02-26 08:36, Rudi van Drunen (Xlexit) wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just replaced the electrolytical caps in 3 boards that demonstrated the  >> RLOD phenomenon, and at least 2 of them did not get get fixed, so it might >> not be  *the* solution :-( > >

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-26 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Paride Legovini wrote: On 2018-02-26 08:36, Rudi van Drunen (Xlexit) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I just replaced the electrolytical caps in 3 boards that demonstrated > the > > RLOD phenomenon, and at least 2 of them did not get get fixed,

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-26 Thread Paride Legovini
On 2018-02-26 08:36, Rudi van Drunen (Xlexit) wrote: > Hi all, > > I just replaced the electrolytical caps in 3 boards that demonstrated the  > RLOD phenomenon, and at least 2 of them did not get get fixed, so it might > not be  *the* solution :-( I'm very sorry to hear so. Unfortunately I also

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-25 Thread Rudi van Drunen (Xlexit)
Hi all, I just replaced the electrolytical caps in 3 boards that demonstrated the  RLOD phenomenon, and at least 2 of them did not get get fixed, so it might not be  *the* solution :-( I have heard (earlier) from people working at Soekris USA that the problem  might be in a bad (batch of)

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread andrew
Hi Paride, Thanks for this.  I hope you’re right on this as I have a board in this state, but given the nature of the problem you may also be declaring victory too soon here. :) On Feb 15, 2018, 3:07 PM -0500, Paride Legovini , wrote: > On 2018-02-15 19:56, William Ahern

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread Paride Legovini
On 2018-02-15 19:56, William Ahern wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:27:24PM +0100, Paride Legovini wrote: >> On 2018-02-15 12:07, Peter J. Holzer wrote: Note the very long working life (7000 hours, quite long for this type of component). >>> >>> Is 7000 hours really quite long? A

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread William Ahern
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:27:24PM +0100, Paride Legovini wrote: > On 2018-02-15 12:07, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > >> > >> Note the very long working life (7000 hours, quite long for this type of > >> component). > > > > Is 7000 hours really quite long? A device like the Soekris is supposed > > to

Re: [Soekris] Soekris-tech Digest, Vol 161, Issue 1

2018-02-15 Thread Lee Johnson
I'll certainly give it a try. I've got a stack of them. Thanks. On 2018-02-15 06:00, soekris-tech-requ...@lists.soekris.com wrote: Send Soekris-tech mailing list submissions to soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread Paride Legovini
On 2018-02-15 12:07, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >> >> Note the very long working life (7000 hours, quite long for this type of >> component). > > Is 7000 hours really quite long? A device like the Soekris is supposed > to run 24x7 - and at 24 hours a day 7000 hours are less than 10 months. It's 7000

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2018-02-15 10:11:31 +0100, Paride Legovini wrote: > Yesterday night I began to replace them, starting from the usual > suspects: the two 35V 150uF electrolytics between the inductors, near > the power connector. After replacing them I tested the board and, guess > what, now it never fails to

Re: [Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread Denis Fondras
Thank you for this information, I will try it :) On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:11:31AM +0100, Paride Legovini wrote: > A few months ago I bought myself a bargain net6501 off ebay to be used > as home router. It was working flawlessly with OPNsense, but at some > point after a reboot it was stuck

[Soekris] How I fixed a dead net6501 (Red Light Of Death)

2018-02-15 Thread Paride Legovini
A few months ago I bought myself a bargain net6501 off ebay to be used as home router. It was working flawlessly with OPNsense, but at some point after a reboot it was stuck with the infamous RLOD this list knows very well. The symptoms were the classical ones for bad capacitors: - random

[Soekris] 4801 for free

2018-01-01 Thread Egbert
Soekris 4801 for free. Buyer pays postage and packing. Greenish enclosure. Wifi added. More reliable powersupply added. Reply via PM please: egbert-at-vandenbussche-dot-nl Egbert Jan van den Bussche NL ___ Soekris-tech mailing list

Re: [Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-09 Thread Wesley PA4WDH
Hi Michael,Thanks for your suggestion. Al always searched for boards as a drop-in replacement for the 6501 and never thought about multi-NIC PCI(e) cards to get the required number of nics. It even gives an other option: Go for a somewhat more power consuming Core-series processor and

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-07 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-09-05, Hendrickson, Kenneth wrote: > No, let me correct that. > > I think the APU hardware has some PCI-E slots. > I think I bought wireless hardware, that was advertised as being compatible > with OpenBSD. > > And I haven't been able to get it working yet. :-( > >

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
No, let me correct that. I think the APU hardware has some PCI-E slots. I think I bought wireless hardware, that was advertised as being compatible with OpenBSD. And I haven't been able to get it working yet. :-( Most of that work was in the December 2015 timeframe, so it was a while ago.

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Folkert Saathoff
not sure what you mean with build-in, but the wle200nx miniPCIe adapter works fine for me, in hostap mode on OpenBSD5.9 (but that might be using a binary blob driver, cant remember right now) funny how soekris-tech becomes apu-marketing every once in a while.. :) /f > On 2017.09.05, at

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
> not sure what you mean with build-in If my memory serves me correctly, the APU hardware has some built-in wireless hardware. I haven't been able to get it to work with OpenBSD, yet. :-( I do remember having to download and install a binary blob, but that didn't work either. -Original

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
I have not been able to get PC Engines APU2 build-in wireless hardware to work with OpenBSD. Has anybody else been able to get it to work with OpenBSD? -Original Message- From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Tom

Re: [Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/05/2017 09:19 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > For that application, start with an apollo lake board, something like > ASUS PRIME J3355I-C, add dual or quad port nic. It'll run absolute rings > around a net6501. Would you know of any fanless, low-power machine that sports two or three PCIe slots?

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Will Martindale
Hi, I've been going the Netgate/pfSense route and haven't looked back for all *routing purposes* for personal and customer use. I'll always miss Soekris! On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Tom Parker wrote: > PC Engines apu2 is doing a nice job replacing soekris for us... > >

Re: [Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 02:24:52PM -0400, Tom Parker wrote: PC Engines apu2 is doing a nice job replacing soekris for us... Agreed for some tasks, but not for fileserving with multiple attached drives. You can cram that into the platform, but it's not what it's best at.

Re: [Soekris] [SPAM] Re: yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Tom Parker
PC Engines apu2 is doing a nice job replacing soekris for us... Tom On 09/05/2017 02:19 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 06:02:29PM +, Wesley PA4WDH wrote: >> Does anyone have an advice for an alternative ? I've seen some >> alternatives on >> the list but so far they

Re: [Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 06:02:29PM +, Wesley PA4WDH wrote: Does anyone have an advice for an alternative ? I've seen some alternatives on the list but so far they didn't meet my requirements. I'm using it as a home server so 2x sata, 3x GB ethernet ports are minimum. The Atom CPU is fine

Re: [Soekris] Model numbers for net4801?

2017-09-05 Thread Bryan
Thank you Michael. This is very helpful. Not sure why the wayback machine didn't occur to me... -Original Message- From: Michael Stone [mailto:mstone+soek...@mathom.us] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:59 AM To: Bryan Cc: 'soekris-tech' Subject: Re: [Soekris] Model numbers for

Re: [Soekris] Model numbers for net4801?

2017-09-05 Thread Bryan
OK. Maybe I am confusing the 70 with the 6501. -Original Message- From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Denis Fondras Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 11:55 AM To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com Subject: Re: [Soekris]

Re: [Soekris] Model numbers for net4801?

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:21:23AM -0600, Bryan wrote: Does anyone have a list of the various models for the net4801? E.G. net4801-48 was 256MB RAM. https://web.archive.org/web/20071009154601/http://www.soekris.com:80/how_to_buy.htm

Re: [Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Wesley PA4WDH
Sad to see this happening. I still have a 6501 running here and barely dare to reboot it for updates :-( Does anyone have an advice for an alternative ? I've seen some alternatives on the list but so far they didn't meet my requirements.I'm using it as a home server so 2x sata, 3x GB ethernet

Re: [Soekris] Model numbers for net4801?

2017-09-05 Thread Denis Fondras
> Does anyone have a list of the various models for the net4801? E.G. > net4801-48 was 256MB RAM. > > I know there were 48, 60, and 70 models but they are no longer on the > Soekris web site in the EOL section for reference. > Are you sure about 70 ?

Re: [Soekris] Model numbers for net4801?

2017-09-05 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
Try the Internet Wayback Machine (Archive.org). From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 1:21 PM To: 'soekris-tech' Subject: [Soekris] Model numbers for

[Soekris] Model numbers for net4801?

2017-09-05 Thread Bryan
Greetings, Does anyone have a list of the various models for the net4801? E.G. net4801-48 was 256MB RAM. I know there were 48, 60, and 70 models but they are no longer on the Soekris web site in the EOL section for reference. TIA! ___ Soekris-tech

Re: [Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Wim Vandeputte Mailing list only
Wel, farewell indeed as they no longer responding the RMA requests too and shafted all their resellers and customers. Makes you want to believe in karma... On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 03:10:47PM +0100, Pedro Caetano wrote: > Hi list, > > After 6 years running as my home gateway my net6501 kicked

[Soekris] yet another dead 6501

2017-09-05 Thread Pedro Caetano
Hi list, After 6 years running as my home gateway my net6501 kicked the bucket about three months ago. Farewell soekis ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech

Re: [Soekris] JP7 (com1) on net6501

2017-06-30 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
> OpenBSD can't seem to find my second RS232 port. > Nor does it seem to work with FreeBSD. If the hardware is there, both OpenBSD and FreeBSD should find it and announce it while booting, and in the dmesg. > Or do I have broken hardware? You might have a "bad" cable -- not bad as in

Re: [Soekris] net6501 battery polarity?

2017-06-18 Thread Denis Fondras
Hi, On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 04:15:56PM -0700, David Ruggiero wrote: > Request for a favor from the list: can someone with a net6501 (if any out > there still work :) pull out a voltmeter and let me know which direction > the CMOS battery faces? Is the battery positive pole towards the small cap >

[Soekris] net6501 battery polarity?

2017-06-17 Thread David Ruggiero
Request for a favor from the list: can someone with a net6501 (if any out there still work :) pull out a voltmeter and let me know which direction the CMOS battery faces? Is the battery positive pole towards the small cap (red and white on my board) or the other way (towards the row of four

Re: [Soekris] And...

2017-06-01 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, > On 24 May 2017, at 06:27, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > I purchased a PC Engines apu2c4 with a case, and it ended up being about USD > 125 including shipping. Better in nearly every way, with the good sense to > include a heat spreader to use the case itself to

Re: [Soekris] Soekris-tech Digest, Vol 155, Issue 11

2017-04-27 Thread JSL Internet
Sad to see Soekris gone, but it was not unexpected. I've seen lots of posts about alternative fanless/industrial SBCs, but I have never seen CompuLab mentioned. I have a FitPC2 and an AirTop and they are awesome. They aren't cheap, but they are solid. Jeff

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-27 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:48:09 -0700 Dan Shechter wrote: > I have replaced my failing 6501 with PC Engine APU2. Very happy. > > Funny how the rack mounting kits cost a lot, relative to the price of the > APU its self. I dont see what you are complaining about, the price of an

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread EricB
Hey Tom, I've also deployed a number Supermicro boxes during a few month span when the net6501 was backordered using the "SuperServer 5015A-EHF-D525" (https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-EHF-D525.cfm) This worked as a good replacement since it has: - an internal USB

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Tom Parker
Do you have a rack mount case that you like? I have been a Soekris customer for 12 years and am just now shopping for a replacement for my rack mounted net6501s. The APU2 looks great but I will need to find a good 19" rack mount case for it as well. Thanks for any info you have Tom Parker

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Raymond Lillard
I have recently installed 3 new systems (1 a soekris replacement) and 2 completely new installations. These are not rack-mounted, but they are fanless. The 1st was a PCEngines apu2c4, the replacement. The 2nd 2 were qotom-q310g4. units. The network ports on the Qotom units are not enumerated

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Dan Shechter
I have replaced my failing 6501 with PC Engine APU2. Very happy. Funny how the rack mounting kits cost a lot, relative to the price of the APU its self. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Nick Gyurov wrote: > Bryan, I'm switching to PC Engines. > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 at 3:56

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread AMuse
I've had great luck with Netgate so far for fanless systems. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Nick Gyurov wrote: > Bryan, I'm switching to PC Engines. > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 at 3:56 AM BKW Soekris > wrote: > >> On 2017-04-26 10:11, Scott

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Nick Gyurov
Bryan, I'm switching to PC Engines. On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 at 3:56 AM BKW Soekris wrote: > On 2017-04-26 10:11, Scott Gustafson wrote: > > From the home page announcement: http://soekris.com/ > > Well, at least they've made it clear. Now I can finally give up hope on > a

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread BKW Soekris
On 2017-04-26 10:11, Scott Gustafson wrote: From the home page announcement: http://soekris.com/ Well, at least they've made it clear. Now I can finally give up hope on a new product. And I can also give up hope for some official contribution to the mailing list regarding the net6501

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Nick Gyurov
It was not unexpected. R.I.P. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:11 PM Scott Gustafson wrote: > From the home page announcement: http://soekris.com/ > > > Soekris Engineering, Inc. > April 24, 2017 > > Due to declining sales, limited resources available

Re: [Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Bryan
Even more telling, if you look at the Soekris Europe web page they are announcing new products. -Original Message- From: soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com [mailto:soekris-tech-boun...@lists.soekris.com] On Behalf Of Scott Gustafson Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 9:11 AM To:

[Soekris] They finally suspended operations

2017-04-26 Thread Scott Gustafson
From the home page announcement: http://soekris.com/ Soekris Engineering, Inc. April 24, 2017 Due to declining sales, limited resources available to design new products, and increased competition from Asia, Soekris Engineering, Inc. has suspended operations in the USA as

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:51:53PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2017-04-19, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: Does anyone knows if there is a mailing list, just as this, for their products? Just the web forum. It actually is just like this mailing list: there's no

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-25 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-04-19, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > as many of you I got my dead one here. Now I look foward to a new brand, and > look for same kind of issues on the new APU2 from PcEngines. APU2 is still a bit new to identify this type of problem. I haven't seen any problems with

Re: [Soekris] Soekris-tech Digest, Vol 155, Issue 6

2017-04-21 Thread Lee Johnson
Soren's LinkedIn profile indicates he's located in Sealand now according to his LinkedIn profile. That's the island where Copenhagen is. The Soekris site on the About Us page suggests that he and Michelle divorced; she no longer uses Kristensen as her last name although she still apparently

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-20 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2017-04-19 19:02:58 -0400, Ken Hornstein wrote: > As for something happening to Soren ... well, I have no inside > knowledge about that. I couldn't help noticing that he stopped > posting to the mailing lists in the 2011-2012 timeframe, right when > the first batch of 6501s started dying and

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for, 8minutes

2017-04-20 Thread Lee Johnson
I've used Soekris products for many years and used to have enormous faith in them. I've only got two 6501-70s left in production and will be phasing them out shortly. The one 5501-70 is happily running along but no longer has the needed RAM and CPU to get the job done. I only deployed a

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Bryan
On the other side of this coin (which I completely agree with, BTW) I have many net-4801 units running flawlessly and haven't been rebooted in many years. I anticipate they will last another 5 years unless the throughput begins to exceed their capacity. All of my 6501-70's have been replaced by

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Ken Hornstein
>as many of you I got my dead one here. Now I look foward to a >new brand, and look for same kind of issues on the new APU2 from >PcEngines. Does anyone knows if there is a mailing list, just as this, >for their products? There is an online forum (which I don't prefer):

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:26:48 -0400 Ken Hornstein wrote: Hi guys, as many of you I got my dead one here. Now I look foward to a new brand, and look for same kind of issues on the new APU2 from PcEngines. Does anyone knows if there is a mailing list, just as this, for their

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Ken Hornstein
>I suppose if they were to discover that all of the boards had a >component with a fatal flaw then that would preclude them from selling >more of them? Here's the worst thing about this: WE DON'T KNOW! Soekris hasn't said, "Boards sold after date do not have any known defects". They haven't

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Andrew Atrens
Mostly folks stay on this list to discuss alternatives. I suspect some may have held out some hope for a bios workaround. I guess I'm kind of disappointed that Soekris hasn't been more transparent as I suspect they know exactly what's up with these boards. I notice the full complement of these

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Scott Gustafson
> On Apr 19, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote: > - The only useful information regarding this problem AT ALL in the past few > YEARS has been suggestions on this mailing list for products to replace > your Soekris with. I appreciated seeing all of the different hardware

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Ken Hornstein
>> In other words, are the replacements that Soekris is sending out vulnerable >>to the same problem? > >my replacement died 9 months later.. So, let me see if I accurately understand the situation: - The net6501 sometimes just dies. - If it's under warrantly, you will get it replaced. If not,

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Conrad Kostecki
Hi Bryan, > "Bryan K. Walton" hat am 18. April 2017 um 19:09 > geschrieben: > I had a net6501 replaced under warranty about two years ago. This has me > wondering: has anybody had a net6501 go bad, with the symptoms we have all > been discussing, then had it

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-19 Thread Julien Cigar
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:09:08PM -0500, Bryan K. Walton wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 08:09:39AM -0700, David Ruggiero wrote: > > > > Data point A: If you send a dead board back to Soekris _in_ the warranty > > period, it will be quickly replaced without question. > > speculation is

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-18 Thread Joe Carlson
A single data point, but I would suggest yes. I had a unit purchased 2/12 go bad and replaced in 10/14. Starting this year (say 1/17) the replacement started showing the same symptoms of unable to reboot without a power cycle. Several queries to Soekris got nothing back from the tech folks.

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-18 Thread Bryan K. Walton
On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 08:09:39AM -0700, David Ruggiero wrote: > > Data point A: If you send a dead board back to Soekris _in_ the warranty > period, it will be quickly replaced without question. > speculation is constructed with absolutely zero "inside" information. I had a net6501 replaced

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-07 Thread EricB
(Every time this thread pops up again, I knock on wood since my net6501-50s (with both heatsink revisions) have been bulletproof...) WRT the net6801, sounds like it was probably a confluence of issues, mostly market-related. Intel C2000 problems aside, Asian ODMs are making viable inexpensive

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-07 Thread Hendrickson, Kenneth
--- Ken Hornstein wrote: > FWIW, I just powered off my net5501 two weeks ago > and replaced it with an APU2 from PCEngines. I've had trouble getting the wireless on the APU2 working in OpenBSD, even after downloading and installing the not-quite-free device driver. Ken Hendrickson

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-07 Thread Ken Hornstein
>I've had trouble getting the wireless on the APU2 working in OpenBSD, >even after downloading and installing the not-quite-free device driver. Can't help you there; I see the notes for the add-on wireless module says "not supported by all operating systems" and I didn't get one of those. But

Re: [Soekris] net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

2017-04-07 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 07/04/17 18:18, David Ruggiero wrote: > > Maybe it's just me ... but this is the part that I find unlikely. Why > > would a huge company like Intel do that? They already admitted that a > > similar problem exists in related chipsets. > > I fully agree - weakest part of my argument. Why would

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