Re: [Sugar-devel] wrong Activity versions for 8.2(.1) -- Etoys, Memorize, Terminal, Read, others

2009-05-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.05.2009, at 03:56, S Page wrote: Etoys at 94, but its web page's Activity_version says 98 == Someone should update http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Etoys_(8.2) !? == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4030 is up to 100, but doesn't list a version for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-25 Thread Brian Jordan
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Brian, On 24 May 2009, at 18:36, Brian Jordan wrote: Hey all, Gary -- when you get a chance, can you add me as a committer on git.sl.o?  I'd like to help clean things up! You're added! :-) Can I request we

[Sugar-devel] greater activities list by deleting activities list

2009-05-25 Thread Brian Jordan
Is anyone against retiring the activit...@lists.laptop.org list in favor of migration to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org? Brian ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 20:04, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:30:15PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/23/09 19:16, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I couldn't get this to boot, it hangs some time after the grub

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 21:30, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps Maximus from Ubuntu netbook remix may help with emulating matchbox behaviour? https://launchpad.net/maximus We have a trade-off to take into account here between memory usage of maximus and the cost of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Dictionary everywhere ?

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 01:42, S Page skierp...@gmail.com wrote: There are a dozen dictionary extensions for Firefox, do any of those work in Browse? http://www.dailyblogtips.com/dictionary-extensions-for-firefox/ and comments mention a few. Extensions that don't use anything firefox-specific

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 13:31, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: +1 on the overall. Building Sugar from source should be as easy as: , | ~$ git://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-core/mainline.git | ~$ ./configure | ~$ make | ~$ sudo make install ` Well, that works for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] greater activities list by deleting activities list

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 09:48, Brian Jordan wrote: Is anyone against retiring the activit...@lists.laptop.org list in favor of migration to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org? +1. I think platform developers should be aware of the challenges of activity writers, and vice-versa. -- // Bernie Innocenti -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS.  But I suppose we can't do much about it. Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives that fit better? m --

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread NoiseEHC
I hope this anwers your question, Simon Unfortunately it does not. What I wanted to know whether I will be able to use the latest Sugar on my XO-1 ever. It boots the kernel with 802 so it is a working Linux distribution. If somehow I copy the latest Sugar over the old Sugar (0.82 I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it. Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Openbox, the window manager used by LXDE and other desktops, is only slightly cheaper: 7.5MB RSS. IMHO, not worth the pain of being out of the mainstream. matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += cwickert] On 05/25/09 12:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Submitters: Please go through all the open bugs you have submitted. If BTW, if there's any guidance for the test team in Bxl on how to tag the bugs found against latest SoaS, we'll be happy to follow... This search

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Announcing Snapshot 2009/05/24

2009-05-25 Thread NoiseEHC
I have tried the appliance image on VirtualBox. On the registration form it crashed with some python? error (will look the exact error if it is not a well known bug). It could be caused that I clicked more than once to the Next button. After that I only have an Automatic login user to choose

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 05/25/09 12:18, Martin Langhoff wrote: matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5 MiB(shared) with Browse.xo and Terminal.xo open on my development XO after 3 days uptime. 'top' says 9644 RSS, 5436 Res, but the more I use the smap data (parsed by ps_mem.py) the less I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

2009-05-25 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi, We talked a bit about the Help Activity in Paris. I've taken our discussion and written it up here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help Please take a look and edit this spec and start to think about how it should be implemented. It may not be worth translating it before it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Marten Vijn
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:42 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [adding sugar-devel again to CC] On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 14:36, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:49 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:34, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: cut

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Bug tracker housekeeping

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2009 11:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 16:54, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Dear Sugar Community, After the dust of the 0.84 release has been settled we like to clean up the database. With each new Sucrose release comes some bug tracker

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Activities] greater activities list by deleting activities list

2009-05-25 Thread wa1gsf
I'd just like to be able to find ONE place to go to that would list the correct version of each activity FOR EACH RELEASE OF THE PLATFORM. Knowing that version 554 of stump-the-wumpus is the latest does me no good if I need a version no newer than 357 in order to run it under 8.2.1 on my XO.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-25 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 25.05.2009, 12:17 +0200 schrieb Bernie Innocenti: [cc += cwickert] On 05/25/09 12:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: On 05/25/09 11:19, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: The only thing I didn't like very much is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 16:25, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:42 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [adding sugar-devel again to CC] On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 14:36, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:49 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
[...] That's why people are barking at the wrong tree when they say that Sugar developers should port Sugar to whatever system. The skills involved are very different from upstream work and if coders are not coding we won't have anything new to ship. If barking ever applies me to please let

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Developer MINUTES

2009-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2009 11:51 AM, Walter Bender wrote: Tomeu was quicker in his response than me... As Simon said, the current plan for *both* the XO-1 and the XO-1.5 in regard to Sugar support is to build upon the work that OLPC and the Fedora communities are doing towards getting a stock Fedora

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them

2009-05-25 Thread Gary C Martin
On 25 May 2009, at 12:33, David Van Assche wrote: Super... that methodology should be written up some place as its a great guide to follow... I'd much rather try and find some agreement to cut un-necessary steps, rather than to wikify/formalise it and push every unfortunate Activity

[Sugar-devel] introduction

2009-05-25 Thread Marten Vijn
Following http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Getting_Involved 1. User:Marten refers to me 2. my public_key is in User:Marten 3. I am on Activity Team/Contacts (I was not sure to me add meself) 4. For the people that don't know me yet Hi I am Marten, I live in Leiden, The Netherland. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them

2009-05-25 Thread David Van Assche
Well the main thing here is about demoing... I've taken it upon myself to package about 50 activities... including fructose and glucose... now... we have things like flash which isnt an xo bundle, though many people believe it could/should be, and that would/should be considered a honey app, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-25 Thread Bastien
Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org writes: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 13:31, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: +1 on the overall. Building Sugar from source should be as easy as: , | ~$ git://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-core/mainline.git | ~$ ./configure | ~$ make | ~$ sudo make

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

2009-05-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Caroline, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com writes: We talked a bit about the Help Activity in Paris.  I've taken our discussion and written it up here:  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help Please take a look and edit this spec and start to think about how it should be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who wants to adopt the Clock activity?

2009-05-25 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Pierre, On 26 May 2009, at 02:24, Pierre Métras wrote: Hi Gary, I've read in a recent post in the Sugar IAEP list where you explained how to make an activity adopted by the Activity Team. Are you part of this team or how can I contact them without having to create a new account to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

2009-05-25 Thread S Page
Summary: There seems to already be Sugar 0.84 content translated into various languages on flossmanuals.net that someone could remix as HTML and link to from the Browse activity's home page. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: We talked a bit about the