Re: [SunRay-Users] Solaris Logon screen pixmap

2015-06-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
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Re: [SunRay-Users] utxlock graphic

2015-06-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
/login_logo.xpm Right - the wide gray box that looks like dtlogin is from the Sun Ray software, which installs a PAM module to allow you to then bypass the xscreensaver UI. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http

Re: [SunRay-Users] utxlock graphic

2015-06-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
the details. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users

Re: [SunRay-Users] Chances of crowd funding a buy of SRSS from Oracle?

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
know how much any of that will cost for Sun Ray or how willing the management over there is to do this, but don't assume this is anything like what happened to OpenOffice. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Product Discontinuation - Real Reason?

2013-10-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
of SPARC servers this year (M6 now, after T5 M5 in the spring): http://event.on24.com/r.htm?e=693509s=1k=C6EEB12F285FAFB56E82CBBCECC3248Apartnerref=ocomservers -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Product Discontinuation - Real Reason?

2013-10-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
you want, and can't breach company confidentiality on any I may know. If you've got technical questions about Solaris or X11, try me (though being only human, I only know a subset of the answers about either). Otherwise, try your sales rep or support contact. -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray Product Discontinuation - Real Reason?

2013-10-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
to Wayland or Mir... -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [SunRay-Users] xdmcp kiosk session audio

2013-09-05 Thread Alan Coopersmith
possible to build puleaudio for OI. It should be. Oracle has published the build recipes for PulseAudio and other Solaris desktop software at: https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/ -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris

Re: [SunRay-Users] Goodby Sun Ray ...

2013-08-08 Thread Alan Coopersmith
the office...] -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [SunRay-Users] OpenGL error

2013-07-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
loading the appropriate GPU module instead. You don't mention the OS in uses, but from /usr/lib64 I'm going to guess it's one of the Linux distros - check to see if the swrast module for Mesa is in a separate package that needs to also be installed for that distro. -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Solaris 11

2012-10-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS for Solaris 11?

2011-11-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 11/23/11 22:31, Joe Reid wrote: Wow, 2 weeks and no estimates on when SRSS will be launched for Solaris 11? Any news on that front? Sorry, but Oracle policy generally does not allow employees to make public statements promising future release dates of software. -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray 1

2011-09-23 Thread Alan Coopersmith
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Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 11.10 / 12.04 LightDM replaces GDM

2011-05-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 05/12/11 08:51 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: On 5/12/11 11:48 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Seeing that Ubuntu will replace GDM with LightDM in the next release: They're also moving away from GNOME X11 towards their custom Unity desktop Wayland. Seems like they're trying to fit more

Re: [SunRay-Users] Ubuntu 11.10 / 12.04 LightDM replaces GDM

2011-05-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
from the traditional *nix technical workstation desktop model. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http

Re: [SunRay-Users] Auto Reply: accessing sunray desktop

2011-05-03 Thread Alan Coopersmith
for everyone. (Fixing the autoresponder to not reply to mail with Precedence: list and similar headers has also been requested, but that's not something anyone here can fix.) -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xnewt font problems

2010-10-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
care of - but for Solaris 10, it appears we still need to fix the default font path to do that. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ SunRay-Users mailing list

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xnewt font problems

2010-10-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Also, since there is no -adobe-helvetica... provided in bitmap format with 72-72 resolution, I wonder if it's scaling the 75-75 bitmaps or the Type1 scalable version of the Adobe font (I hope it's the latter, but you have to set the Xnewt/Xorg font path differently than

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xnewt font problems

2010-10-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan Coopersmith wrote: would be roughly equivalent to the Xorg font path: /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps:unscaled /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled /usr/openwin

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xnewt font problems

2010-10-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
format with 72-72 resolution, I wonder if it's scaling the 75-75 bitmaps or the Type1 scalable version of the Adobe font (I hope it's the latter, but you have to set the Xnewt/Xorg font path differently than Xsun to control that). -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com

Re: [SunRay-Users] JDS

2010-09-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
11 - you can see previews today in OpenSolaris, and later this year in the Solaris 11 preview releases. Though Firefox Thunderbird were updated in the new Solaris 10 release since security patches are no longer released by Mozilla for the previously included versions. -- -Alan

Re: [SunRay-Users] Auto Reply: Re: Errors from patchadd for 140994-03

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
them in the future, but don't know if/when that will happen. One thing it does do is honor the Reply-To header, and in the messages that were looping, I do see: Reply-To: SunRay-Users mailing list sunray-users@filibeto.org so it was operating as designed. -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Auto Reply: Re: Errors from patchadd for 140994-03

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Was it really an attack on Bob? After all, he's in product development/engineering, not IT. (Not that it still wasn't misplaced, since IT makes sure the mail servers run, but don't control how the mail software developers wrote the code to handle auto-replies.) -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Nexenta

2010-08-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
they work on Linux, you might just need to convince it to run the Linux forms of the commands even though uname says SunOS. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System

Re: [SunRay-Users] Linux support

2010-07-08 Thread Alan Coopersmith
support was added for video decoding on Sun Ray, since it uses DRI2 to determine information about the underlying hardware capabilities and which backend to use. As for crashes, those are bugs that should be reported to support so they can be fixed. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm

Re: [SunRay-Users] Screensaver startup time?

2010-06-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
paths under /usr/openwin or /usr/share/X11 depending on OS version. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS 4.2 on Build 133 x86 OK but hangs at 26 D on sparc64

2010-02-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
No. 6926250 is not fixed. Are you saying that you installed those packages and rebooted into the new boot environment and still had no /usr/lib/xorg/sparcv9/libdrm.so.2 file? Or was there another problem? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Oracle Solaris Platform

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS 4.2 on Build 133 x86 OK but hangs at 26 D on sparc64

2010-02-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
134 hits the pkg.opensolaris.org servers it will also include the updates for the other 95% of the OS packages.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ SunRay

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS 4.2 on Build 133 x86 OK but hangs at 26 D on sparc64

2010-02-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Bob wrote: The X packages for build 134 are available for testing if you want to try them before the whole OS is ready on the official pkg servers: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/xwin-discuss/2010-February/004310.html I tried Build 134 but still the same

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS 4.2 on Build 133 x86 OK but hangs at 26 D on sparc64

2010-02-23 Thread Alan Coopersmith
to run. The X packages for build 134 are available for testing if you want to try them before the whole OS is ready on the official pkg servers: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/xwin-discuss/2010-February/004310.html -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com

Re: [SunRay-Users] performance problems on RHEL5 + SRSS 4.2 EA2

2010-02-18 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Feb 14 19:48:33 2010: 3817 Xnewt: client 2 rejected from local host( uid=3079) -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users

Re: [SunRay-Users] FYI: Commission clears Oracle's proposed acquisition of Sun Microsystems

2010-01-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
new pages (or at least newly imported from sun.com) at: http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/desktop-workstations/index.html -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] FYI: Commission clears Oracle's proposed acquisition of Sun Microsystems

2010-01-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
virtualization products: VDI, Secure Global Desktop, Sun Ray, and VirtualBox. There may be more details at next week's 5 hour webcast to go over Oracle's plans in more detail: http://www.oracle.com/webapps/events/EventsDetail.jsp?p_eventId=108481 -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xnest and XDCMP problems

2010-01-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Xnest. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xnewt crash with 3D programs on Linux (again)

2009-10-20 Thread Alan Coopersmith
crashes in xmesa_check_and_update_buffer_size which is still open? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http

Re: [SunRay-Users] Num locks no longer working on keyboards

2009-08-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
X11/NeWS was dropped in Solaris 2.3? -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray SW 5, Solaris 10, and 26D

2009-07-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
of X can come up on a non-existent graphics card either, you just need to change the dtlogin or gdm configuration to tell it not to bother trying to start a :0 X server on the graphics card that's not there. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems

Re: [SunRay-Users] Any plans to support RENDER extension in Xnewt ?

2009-05-07 Thread Alan Coopersmith
in the next release of SRSS. This is very good news! So you'll all have Compiz at the ready! Not even close. Compiz requires OpenGL with several extensions, - the Composite and Render extensions are easy to deliver by comparison. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com

Re: [SunRay-Users] slow windows on remote X client

2009-03-10 Thread Alan Coopersmith
out which pixels changed to send those to the DTU. That's the win for XRENDER with remote X11 apps - much less X client - server bandwidth for the same image to appear on screen. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System

Re: [SunRay-Users] How to set Xleds option

2009-02-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith
, but allow you to configure this in the xorg.conf if you want to change it. Xnewt uses it's own keyboard driver that communicates with the Sun Ray DTU, not the Xorg keyboard/kbd driver, which only work with local keyboards (/dev/kbd or /dev/usb/*). -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Fontpath

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
add a -showDefaultFontPath in Xorg 1.7, but that would only help once all the distros upgraded.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list

Re: [SunRay-Users] sunray 1g max fill rate?

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
machines? Hard to think of many others as a general class, though specific hardware devices may be easier to pick out that fit. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sunray Xserver error

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
need to have this package installed on the system to use Xnewt. If you're on a SPARC, that means using Solaris 10 8/07 (S10U4) or newer. On either SPARC or x86, that means not removing the SUNWxorg-* packages to minimize the system. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sunray Xserver error

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
10 8/07 or newer. 2) If you are running Solaris 10 newer than Solaris 10 8/07, install the packages from the install media for the OS version you have installed. If you don't remember which Solaris 10 release you installed, cat /etc/release should show you. -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sunray Xserver error

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
scheduled to be included in the next Solaris 10 update release. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http

Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray and Window Maker

2008-12-29 Thread Alan Coopersmith
- it's on our todo list for the future, but if windowmaker is built to use it now, pkg-get should be installing it, so it seems like a dependency bug in the windowmaker package. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System

Re: [SunRay-Users] X-Window problem ?

2008-10-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
on your server/configuration. To find out which extension, run xdpyinfo -queryExt | grep 'opcode: 129' (or whatever opcode you get in the message). -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] xlock problem SRSS 4.0

2008-09-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
files) - are your users home directories NFS mounted from a server where a setuid process would be unable to open $HOME/.xauthority? -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS 4.1 beta on Debian

2008-08-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith
. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users

Re: [SunRay-Users] Running SRSS 4.1 on SXCE (nv_95 or nv_96) ... ?

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
/paravon/... runpath (I haven't tried), but liblbxutil.so.1 still won't be found. Of course, if you're running snv_96, why not also run the SRSS beta that provides the Xorg-based Xnewt server and run that instead of Xsun? -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun

Re: [SunRay-Users] opensolaris 2008.5 and srss 4

2008-05-06 Thread Alan Coopersmith
a SXCE (Nevada) CD/DVD and install them for their own use, but not give them to others.And because it's similarly EOL and being removed from Solaris, it wasn't believed to be worth the effort to remove/replace the encumbered bits to allow free redistribution. -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Live Upgrade with Sun Ray Server 4

2008-04-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Lars Tunkrans wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: GĂ©rard Henry wrote: i have some users that refuse to try a sunray only because they see this old 90's banner... Even after we put the splashy new login screen on in Solaris 10? (and changed it several S10 patches/updates to be even snazzier

Re: [SunRay-Users] Live Upgrade with Sun Ray Server 4

2008-04-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith
they see this old 90's banner... Even after we put the splashy new login screen on in Solaris 10? (and changed it several S10 patches/updates to be even snazzier and more Sun Ray bandwidth-friendly)It lacks the customizability of gdm, but doesn't look like 90's CDE any more. -- -Alan

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS and Indiana

2008-04-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
the packages on his test system since he uses Sun Ray as his desktop, and think it works fine for him, but haven't checked since he asked me for the Xsun packages he needed.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] SRSS on Solaris x86 (moved from Linux)

2008-04-02 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Meik Hellmund wrote: Now I have a Gnome which looks much better than JDS or blastwave's gnome. Does anyone know where to get a recent KDE-3 (i.e., 3.5.7 .. 3.5.9) for Solaris/x86? Have you tried http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/kde/ or http://solaris.kde.org/ ? -- -Alan

Re: [SunRay-Users] Microsoft truetype core fonts on Solaris

2008-03-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Ian Chard wrote: On 27/02/08 15:46, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ian Chard wrote: Hi, I've had a comment from one of my Sun Ray users that web pages don't render to his liking (there's no accounting for taste). Is there a procedure for installing the free Microsoft truetype core fonts

Re: [SunRay-Users] Microsoft truetype core fonts on Solaris

2008-02-27 Thread Alan Coopersmith
apps), download them from http://fontconfig.org/webfonts/ , unpack the tarball and move the .ttf files into ~/.fonts/ and run fc-cache, then restart Firefox. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] dtksh portability = ?

2008-01-28 Thread Alan Coopersmith
by scripts in other Sun products, third-party products and customer creations. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org

Re: [SunRay-Users] SunRay sound not functioning.

2008-01-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
, but the old nosuid option still maps to nosetuid + nodevices. (See the mount man page for details.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list

Re: [SunRay-Users] SunRay sound not functioning.

2008-01-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
ody wrote: I remedied this by creating a symlink from /tmp/SUNWut/dev - /var/tmp/dev. Also talking to our Admin about the how much security nosuid actually provides /tmp. What about changing nosuid to nosetuid on /tmp so you still block setuid-apps, but not devices? -- -Alan

Re: [SunRay-Users] Solaris Sun Ray - enabling gdm

2007-11-28 Thread Alan Coopersmith
are supported, but I don't know when that will be. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://www.filibeto.org/mailman

Re: [SunRay-Users] Whats the point of SRSS on linux these days?

2007-09-04 Thread Alan Coopersmith
on OpenSolaris IRC during work-ish hours, and have seen plenty of Sun Ray discussions in the past), but the channel logs are at: http://www.uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/opensolaris -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

Re: [SunRay-Users] Re: Xsun vs. Xorg

2007-08-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
better hardware support, more features, and more stability. If that's not been your experience, please let us know what bugs you've hit so we can work on them. You can file bugs against X on Solaris at bugs.opensolaris.org under the xserver category. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL

Re: [SunRay-Users] Xorg vs Xsun

2007-08-08 Thread Alan Coopersmith
are much better than the Xsun ones.We don't know yet if Sun Ray on Xorg would show much performance difference from Sun Ray on Xsun. (At least in general use - some things could get better due to Xorg features like Xvideo that allow accelerating video playback.) -- -Alan Coopersmith

Re: [SunRay-Users] Idle session kill - problem compiling xautolock

2007-07-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
' gcc: language arch=v8 not recognized Those are Sun Studio compiler flags - to configure xmkmf/Imake to use gcc compiler flags instead of Sun Studio, see: http://www.bolthole.com/solaris/imake.html -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc

Re: [SunRay-Users] display resolution timings

2007-04-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
release. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ SunRay-Users mailing list SunRay-Users@filibeto.org http://node1.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users

Re: [SunRay-Users] How to disable F1=Help?

2007-03-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
would make it not bring up help, but also not be F1 for your application that wants it to be F1. It sounds like you're using JDS, in which case I believe the Keyboard Shortcuts preference panel is what you want to use. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun