Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:22:22 Evan Daniel wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote: He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 21 August 2009 16:04:28 Alex Pyattaev wrote: He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether F2F is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-22 Thread Luke771
Alex Pyattaev wrote: You know, I do think that freenet is a good idea. And in fact, until freenet users will consume too much traffic, i'm not going to ban them. Because i don't want to. In fact, right now 100.0% of major traffic consumers are using *other* P2P networks. Mostly torrents,

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-22 Thread Alex Pyattaev
The only problem that I can see here (and it may be kind of serious) would be: what if your bosses realize that you use resources, work hours, etc to catch Freenet users, and then you don't actually ban them? If you don't have a good excuse for that, may be better just forget the whole idea.

[freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing internet to subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits the use of ANY p2p network by subscribers. The question is - is it possible to detect freenet nodes on my LAN? I could indeed use connection statistics, but this is

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread bimbek
I don't know about others, but I would not will to help you. 2009/8/21 Alex Pyattaev alex.pyatt...@gmail.com I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing internet to subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits the use of ANY p2p network by subscribers. The

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Ermanno Baschiera
Portscanning? I tried nmap on my node, but it can't identify the application. I don't know if other tools are able to. -ermanno 2009/8/21 Alex Pyattaev alex.pyatt...@gmail.com: I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing internet to subscribers via ethernet. The corporate

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Søren Bredlund Caspersen
Hopefully the answer to Alex's question is: It can't be done. If he can detect freenet nodes on his network, you must assume that governments and the like can as well. I would rather we help Alex try (and hopefully fail) in detecting nodes on his private home network, than just ignore the fact

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the freenet users in the

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Luke771
Alex Pyattaev wrote: I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing internet to subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits the use of ANY p2p network by subscribers. The question is - is it possible to detect freenet nodes on my LAN? I could indeed use

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Luke771
Alex Pyattaev wrote: Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Victor, you basically repeat my idea (about the harvester), so i will think about implementation. Statistics method is not an option, almost the same stats are shown for online games (especially real-time) that utilize UDP. almost constant, mostly

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
Luke771 wrote: Alex Pyattaev wrote: Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhistvolo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote: Luke771 wrote: Alex Pyattaev wrote: Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you. Hope I'll ban some

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether F2F is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that F2F and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote: He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running Freenet as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether F2F is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Jim Cook
At 09:15 AM 8/21/2009, Evan Daniel wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Victor Denisovvdeni...@redline.ru wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke771 wrote: What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users wont be that easy to catch. No,

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
Evan Daniel wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhistvolo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote: Luke771 wrote: Alex Pyattaev wrote: Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you.

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Artefact2
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:57:15PM +0100, VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: Evan Daniel wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhistvolo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote: Luke771 wrote: Alex Pyattaev wrote: Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
You know, I do think that freenet is a good idea. And in fact, until freenet users will consume too much traffic, i'm not going to ban them. Because i don't want to. In fact, right now 100.0% of major traffic consumers are using *other* P2P networks. Mostly torrents, some use mule DC, but they