Interviewed by CNN on 24/12/2009 03:29, Rufus told the world:
SM 1.1.18 does what I need, and the way I need it done. And I've been
looking over alternatives left and right - Firefox...nogo. Camino,
Stainless, Chrome, and Safari all look like they have common roots.
Almost, but not quite.
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 24/12/2009 03:29, Rufus told the world:
SM 1.1.18 does what I need, and the way I need it done. And I've been
looking over alternatives left and right - Firefox...nogo. Camino,
Stainless, Chrome, and Safari all look like they have common roots.
Benoit Renard wrote:
NFN Smith wrote:
Daniel wrote:
it's easier just to say Firefox as the majority option, rather than
an XUL browser.
A web browser doesn't need to use XUL to use the Gecko rendering engine.
Look at K-Meleon for a good example. I think Camino doesn't use XUL either.
See?
Phillip Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source.
Perhaps
you should just give up and install Maxthon.
Not an option, he's on a Mac.
Parellels, VMWare
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Right, it is. And even maintaining al bunch of code you don't really
know and which is sometimes written in strange ways is a quite hard job,
have you ever tried that?
Unfortunately yes. And I looked at SM code briefly and decided it was the mutant
offspring of people
Benoit Renard wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on
xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in
SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work,
at least without Multizilla, which
NFN Smith wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:28:27 -0700, NFN Smith wrote:
snip
I have seen the discussion relating to Coral IETab, and I've played with
that briefly on a test configuration. Objectively, I would love to see a
way to get the necessary plugin support enabled,
Daniel wrote:
Not that I've ever used IE Tab or Coral IE Tab but just sitting here
reading, I'm thinking Do those that use these extensions ever bother to
contact the site to say My SeaMonkey doesn't work with your site
because your site is poorly coded!.
Then I thought Wouldn't
MCBastos wrote:
Again, it's a matter of manpower. SM *was* going somewhat independently
from Firefox for the last few years, on the 1.1 branch -- and what was
the result? The rendering engine was looking more and more dated every
day, ditto for the Javascript engine and other core stuff.
That
NFN Smith wrote:
Daniel wrote:
it's easier just to say Firefox as the majority option, rather than
an XUL browser.
A web browser doesn't need to use XUL to use the Gecko rendering engine.
Look at K-Meleon for a good example. I think Camino doesn't use XUL either.
»Q« wrote:
In news:cfadnyjlv636srlwnz2dnuvz_hidn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
»Q« wrote:
In news:j7qdntbkupghy7pwnz2dnuvz_uwdn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
»Q« wrote:
The form manager feature of SeaMonkey 1.x isn't in SM 2.0.x
because the codebase which
Rufus wrote:
A two year cycle is about standard for what I do, and what I manage is
WAY more complex than something like SM...the short cycle model works
just fine for security and under the hood fixes, the long cycle model
works better for major interface changes.
You just have more or less
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
A two year cycle is about standard for what I do, and what I manage is
WAY more complex than something like SM...the short cycle model works
just fine for security and under the hood fixes, the long cycle model
works better for major interface changes.
You
Rufus wrote:
They do have control over Themes
True, and that's why we finally, after 10 years revamped the theme to
fit way better with current desktop environments. Unfortunately, we left
out a few pieces and there are some parts where we could have done even
better, but we're missing a
On 12/21/2009 5:14 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
snip
Our only chance of keeping SeaMonkey alive at all was to reduce the
amount of unknown code we cannot maintain and replace it with code that
is being maintained by someone else - which meant switching to the newer
Mozilla platform, of which e.g.
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on
xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in
SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work,
at least without Multizilla, which basically converted it to
Phillip Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
/snip/
Not an option, he's on a Mac.
Parellels, VMWare Fusion, probably Virtual Box.
Phil
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
So I really don't get why they've knuckled under and merely imported TB
and FF code instead of maintaining their own, based on that code...this
is all open source, right?
Right, it is. And even maintaining al bunch of code you don't really
know and which is
In news:2-wdnxg9kemgarpwnz2dnuvz_gwdn...@mozilla.org,
Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:
»Q« wrote:
I find it amazing that some people conclude that the devs either
don't care about users or actively work against users' wishes, when
those same people continue to use the browser
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
4) adopt a schedule for release and release fewer changes per cycle -
this could be done on a shorter cycle, allowing for more releases.
5) adopt a longer release cycle for major changes to allow user polling
and beta test of (all) pending implementations
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
As I said, I'm an evaluator/manager - not a coder. I can give advise,
and I can manage...and coders can ignore me - like they do at work.
Hehe, now you admit you understand my part in all that somewhat after
all. ;-)
I'm mostly a manager in what I'm doing
In news:j7qdntbkupghy7pwnz2dnuvz_uwdn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
»Q« wrote:
The form manager feature of SeaMonkey 1.x isn't in SM 2.0.x because
the codebase which supports it has been abandoned by the people
working on Mozilla core code. Polling users wouldn't make those
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
As I said, I'm an evaluator/manager - not a coder. I can give advise,
and I can manage...and coders can ignore me - like they do at work.
Hehe, now you admit you understand my part in all that somewhat after
all. ;-)
I'm mostly a manager in what I'm doing
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
They do have control over Themes
True, and that's why we finally, after 10 years revamped the theme to
fit way better with current desktop environments. Unfortunately, we left
out a few pieces and there are some parts where we could have done even
better,
Benoit Renard wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on
xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in
SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work,
at least without Multizilla, which
Interviewed by CNN on 21/12/2009 03:32, Rufus told the world:
And I guess that's what I don't get...volunteers are generally more
dedicated and principled than paid hacks. Or at least the ones I've
encountered have been...so I'm not into coddling them.
They are, but since they aren't
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 21/12/2009 03:32, Rufus told the world:
And I guess that's what I don't get...volunteers are generally more
dedicated and principled than paid hacks. Or at least the ones I've
encountered have been...so I'm not into coddling them.
They are, but since
Benoit Renard wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phil, in large measure, kept SM 1.1.x usable by his incredible work on
xSidebar and porting Firefox and Thunderbird extensions to work in
SeaMonkey. Without that, 1.1.x was really not a usable piece of work,
at least without Multizilla, which basically
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:28:43 -0200, MCBastos wrote:
You have a boat. It has a wooden hull, it's old and leaky. You have
three guys to work on the boat. They spend all the time plugging leaks.
Then someone offers you a brand-new, fiberglass hull. You move your
engine, bunks, head, kitchen etc.
Philip Chee wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:28:43 -0200, MCBastos wrote:
You have a boat. It has a wooden hull, it's old and leaky. You have
three guys to work on the boat. They spend all the time plugging leaks.
Then someone offers you a brand-new, fiberglass hull. You move your
engine, bunks,
In news:cfadnyjlv636srlwnz2dnuvz_hidn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
»Q« wrote:
In news:j7qdntbkupghy7pwnz2dnuvz_uwdn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
»Q« wrote:
The form manager feature of SeaMonkey 1.x isn't in SM 2.0.x
because the codebase which
Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:10:03 -0800, Rufus wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:33:15 -0800, Rufus wrote:
Yes, but the interface options/functionality between the two is
different - most notably in that I can drag and drop Account/NG order in
TB, and I can't in
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:54 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
since I am a user I would have no
standing with him a developer, nor would I have the funds to pay him to
do it. So I guess will have to make do until he gets tired of
maintaining it.
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
Never mind that I was one of the first people in the project to suggest
we introduce some management window for the new form data, to come in a
later version after 2.0 - I suggested that back in January or February
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:54 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
since I am a user I would have no
standing with him a developer, nor would I have the funds to pay him to
do it. So I guess will have to make do until he gets tired of
maintaining it.
You don't seem to be able to
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
Never mind that I was one of the first people in the project to suggest
we introduce some management window for the new form data, to come in a
later version after 2.0 - I suggested that back in
Phillip Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:54 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
since I am a user I would have no
standing with him a developer, nor would I have the funds to pay him to
do it. So I guess will have to make do until he gets tired of
maintaining it.
You
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
The user's point of view is irrelevant in this case, and not what we
were talking about. It was a development issue, plain and simple.
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JAS wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:54 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
since I am a user I would have no
standing with him a developer, nor would I have the funds to pay him to
do it. So I guess will have to make do until he gets tired of
maintaining it.
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
The user's point of view is irrelevant in this case, and not what we
were talking about. It was a development issue, plain and simple.
...if users aren't being considered in a development path,
Phillip Jones replied On 12/20/2009 10:05 AM
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:54 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
since I am a user I would have no
standing with him a developer, nor would I have the funds to pay him to
do it. So I guess will have to make do until he gets tired of
In news:poqdnxdfxsh75bpwnz2dnuvz_vbi4...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
The user's point of view is irrelevant in this case, and not what
we were talking about. It was a
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:57:54 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
since I am a user I would have no
standing with him a developer, nor would I have the funds to pay him to
do it. So I guess will have to make do until he gets tired of
maintaining it.
You don't seem to be able to
Rufus wrote:
...if users aren't being considered in a development path, that's a
pretty inconsiderate way to develop a product.
I fully agree. The picture is just not that simple usually, and most of
the time it's tradeoffs between listening to different user bases, or
tradeoffs causing to
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
...if users aren't being considered in a development path, that's a
pretty inconsiderate way to develop a product.
I fully agree. The picture is just not that simple usually, and most of
the time it's tradeoffs between listening to different user bases, or
On 12/20/2009 07:36 PM, Rufus wrote:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
...if users aren't being considered in a development path, that's a
pretty inconsiderate way to develop a product.
I fully agree. The picture is just not that simple usually, and most of
the time it's tradeoffs between
NoOp wrote:
On 12/20/2009 07:36 PM, Rufus wrote:
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Rufus wrote:
...if users aren't being considered in a development path, that's a
pretty inconsiderate way to develop a product.
I fully agree. The picture is just not that simple usually, and most of
the time it's
»Q« wrote:
Innews:poqdnxdfxsh75bpwnz2dnuvz_vbi4...@mozilla.org,
Rufusn...@home.com wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
The user's point of view is irrelevant in this case, and not what
we were talking about. It was a
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source. Perhaps
you should just give up and install Maxthon.
Not an option, he's on a Mac.
Parellels, VMWare Fusion, probably Virtual Box.
Phil
--
Philip
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source. Perhaps
you should just give up and install Maxthon.
Not an option, he's on a Mac.
Parellels, VMWare Fusion, probably Virtual
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source. Perhaps
you should just give up and install Maxthon.
Not an option, he's on a Mac.
Parellels, VMWare Fusion, probably Virtual
In news:796dna1o5zc2clpwnz2dnuvz_hcdn...@mozilla.org,
Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
That a REALLY short treatise on how I've done it...and a fair start
for anyone else.
Some of what you wrote is applicable to SeaMonkey and some isn't.
There were some underlying assumptions, such as the project
»Q« wrote:
Innews:796dna1o5zc2clpwnz2dnuvz_hcdn...@mozilla.org,
Rufusn...@home.com wrote:
That a REALLY short treatise on how I've done it...and a fair start
for anyone else.
Some of what you wrote is applicable to SeaMonkey and some isn't.
There were some underlying assumptions, such as
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:37 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
You don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of Open Source. Perhaps
you should just give up and install Maxthon.
Not an option, he's on a Mac.
Parellels, VMWare
Phillip Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:33:15 -0800, Rufus wrote:
...which brings up a good point - the changes in Thunderbird were/are
actually for the better...on all but on point I can think of.
This is surprising
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Also if some one sends you an image as an attachment that is so large
you have to scroll side to side or up and down the is a menu choice
Autofit and it reduce to fit screen.
That feature has been built-in since SeaMonkey 1.1.x. Open the image
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.
This is correct.
(Despite
chicagofan wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Also if some one sends you an image as an attachment that is so large
you have to scroll side to side or up and down the is a menu choice
Autofit and it reduce to fit screen.
That feature has been built-in since SeaMonkey 1.1.x.
Phillip Jones wrote:
Well that made it easy to get rid of it. Did anyone bother look to find
the originator of the original code?
You mean Netscape? Or actually a Netscape employee named morse, who
wrote or imported the wallet code in early 1999 and placed it into
Robert Kaiser wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Well that made it easy to get rid of it. Did anyone bother look to find
the originator of the original code?
You mean Netscape? Or actually a Netscape employee named morse, who
wrote or imported the wallet code in early 1999 and placed it into
Philip Chee wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:28:27 -0700, NFN Smith wrote:
- Duplicate Tab: 1.0.2 supports Seamonkey 2.0a2, but not 2.0.1
Looks like it just needs to have the maxVersion that it advertises to be
incremented.
Not surprising.
- Mnenhy: 0.7.6 is the most recent. Apparently,
hawker wrote:
Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not a Netscape users?
Yup! That's me.
A message board I visited many years back had Linux fan on it who
regularly praised the suite, then known as Mozilla. I tried it, and
never looked back.
Phillip Jones wrote:
I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.
This is correct.
(Despite all the protestations otherwise by the developers, they decided
On 16 dic, 17:39, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
buhonero escribió:
Así pues, sólo tiene que preguntarse si la mayoría de nosotros, las
personas son sólo para Firefox
Netscape celebrar complementos que no se siente cómodo con el Firefox /
Thunderbird
Interfaz por cualquier
Phillip Jones wrote:
Also if some one sends you an image as an attachment that is so large
you have to scroll side to side or up and down the is a menu choice
Autofit and it reduce to fit screen.
That feature has been built-in since SeaMonkey 1.1.x. Open the image
directly (which you
Leonidas Jones wrote:
I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images. From here
it appears to either images and text or nothing.
I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text.
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Paul Hartman wrote:
some AJAX-heavy sites that don't work entirely properly in Seamonkey for
whatever reason (Facebook, Google Sites, etc).
In FaceBook's case, that's known to be caused by browser sniffing.
Complain to FaceBook to get them to stop this nonsense.
Benoit Renard wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images. From here
it appears to either images and text or nothing.
I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text.
Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1
does not
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.
This is correct.
(Despite all the protestations otherwise by the
Benoit Renard wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
I'm not seeing any way to get SeaMonkey to zoom just images. From here
it appears to either images and text or nothing.
I'm pretty sure you can still zoom only text.
No SM built in zoom zooms or reduces everything text and images. while
image zoom
Leonidas Jones:
Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1
does not seem to have it.
Or is it hidden somewhere else?
Right side, last row.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/tx091219.png (36 KB)
Hartmut
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On 12/18/2009 3:39 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.
This is correct.
Hartmut Figge wrote:
Leonidas Jones:
Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1
does not seem to have it.
Or is it hidden somewhere else?
Right side, last row.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/tx091219.png (36 KB)
Hartmut
I have set that way.
--
Phillip
Mark Hansen wrote:
On 12/18/2009 3:39 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
I do like the way we had a forms manager as in SM 1.1.x and sad that it
removed because they didn't have the time, energy, know-how or desire to
do a port of it in the new code.
This is
Hartmut Figge wrote:
Leonidas Jones:
Firefox has a zoom text only finction, but ViewZoom in SeaMonkey 2.0.1
does not seem to have it.
Or is it hidden somewhere else?
Right side, last row.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/tx091219.png (36 KB)
Hartmut
Okay, that;s where it was hidden.
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:01:42 -0500, Leonidas Jones wrote:
Okay, that;s where it was hidden. I was expecting it to be in the same
place as Firefox, in the view menu, not in preferences.
Might be better in the view menu, to allow a quick choice as to what to
zoom.
Of course, this is a
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:13:49 -0500, hawker wrote:
On 12/15/2009 9:15 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer
On 12/17/2009 3:44 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:13:49 -0500, hawker wrote:
On 12/15/2009 9:15 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and
Leonidas Jones wrote:
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not a Netscape users?
As for me I started on
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:33:15 -0800, Rufus wrote:
/snip/
/snip/
No not at all. On both Windows and Macs, tabs
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for
On 17/12/2009 23:33, hawker wrote:
On 12/17/2009 3:44 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#imagezoom
Meanwhile I'll look into porting 0.4
Thank you. I didn't know that you modified 0.3.1. That makes a big
difference.
I now have 0.4-mod working in
Philip Chee wrote:
Which extensions that you are personally concerned about that are broken
or not longer supporting SeaMonkey? We are currently planning an
outreach program targeting extension authors who used to support the old
Mozilla Suite or SeaMonkey 1.x, to encourage them to resume
On 12/17/2009 10:58 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:44:08 -0500, Phillip Jones wrote:
Does this Portable SeaMonkey you have work on a Verizon Blackberry Curve.
KaiRo managed to get SeaMonkey 2.0a1pre running on a Nokia N810:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Rufus wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:33:15 -0800, Rufus wrote:
/snip/
/snip/
No not at all. On both
Phillip Jones wrote:
Leonidas Jones wrote:
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not a Netscape users?
As
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:28:27 -0700, NFN Smith wrote:
- Duplicate Tab: 1.0.2 supports Seamonkey 2.0a2, but not 2.0.1
Looks like it just needs to have the maxVersion that it advertises to be
incremented.
- Mnenhy: 0.7.6 is the most recent. Apparently, it doesn't support
Thunderbird 3,
On 12/15/2009 9:15 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer supporting
Seamonkey
Which ones? Most popular extensions
Rufus wrote:
Yes, but the interface options/functionality between the two is
different - most notably in that I can drag and drop Account/NG order in
TB, and I can't in SM. And I just discovered that in TB I can open a tab
for each server/subscription if I want, and those tabs don't close at
hawker wrote:
On 12/15/2009 9:15 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer supporting
Seamonkey
Which ones? Most
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
I started with Mosaic in 1993 [loved the dictionary/spell checker it
had]; having never liked MSIE or OE, I
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
Well, our official two arguments are:
1) Good integration of browser and messaging functionality
2) More
On 12/16/2009 12:05 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:34:11 -0500, hawker wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM, hawker haw...@ashevillecommunity.org wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just Netscape
hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird interface for
whatever reason?
Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not
Rufus wrote:
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
Anyone out there a Seamonkey user who was not a Netscape users?
As for me I started on Netscape
Mike C wrote:
Philip Chee wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:34:11 -0500, hawker wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer supporting
hawker wrote:
On 12/15/2009 9:15 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer supporting
Seamonkey
Which ones? Most
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
snip
Hawker
I used NS4, then Mozilla, now Seamonkey. I stayed because I rather open
one suite than several
Robert Kaiser wrote:
hawker wrote:
On 12/15/2009 9:15 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:
I'm asking all this because I'm currently questing why I am staying on
Seamonkey. I like a few things about it over Firefox/Thunderbird but
with 2.0 out and many extensions broken or no longer supporting
Seamonkey
On 12/16/2009 9:11 AM PT, Lou typed:
hawker wrote:
So I just got to wondering if most of us Seamonkey people are just
Netscape hold ons that are not comfortable with the FireFox/Thunderbird
interface for whatever reason?
snip
Hawker
I used NS4, then Mozilla, now Seamonkey. I stayed because I
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