Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Composer Question
Hello all.. I have a question about sig files, which is how do I hide the actual link in the sigfile while only showing the topic for which the receiver can just click? i.e. if I want to have a link to mozilla.support.seamonkey yet I only want to show the word HelpSM in the e-mail, how would I code for this? I trust this was clear.. Thanks again.. SamuelS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Viewing messages
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/20/09 06:13, Samuel S wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/19/09 15:14, NO wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/19/09 09:30, NO wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Samuel S wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: NO wrote: Hello all.. I have encountered this before and fixed it, yet cannot remember how to now. There are a few messages which I receive that are totally in code, then others are blank and unreadable. These messages are from people or organizations which I have received before and can read on other computers. I Am using SM 1.1.14 and Vista business. Thank you again. try View, Message Body As, Original HTML. Did that work? P3H, Thank you for the response. I have just tried that, although it was already checked. It still remains the same, not being able to read the message or a blank message. Thank you, I do appreciate all you do around the groups here to help. SameulS then try File, Compact Folders. Did that help? If not, then close SM, and delete all the *.msf files. Did that help? P3H, Thank you again for the suggestions. I have completed compacting the folders and deleted the *.msf files and still cannot read the messages. I also, have looked at the edit preferences to determine if there is something there which might affect the ability to read these messages and could not find one. Any ideas there? Thank you again, Samuel I wonder if you are now pointing to a different profile. If you have SeaMonkey open, go to Tools - Switch Profile and see if more than one is listed. If there are, try switching to the other profile(s) and see if your messages are there. Best Regards, Mark, Thank you for the input. There is only one profile there. Maybe I need to consider adding a profile? Thank you - Samuel Well, the profile is where all the application settings, e-mail, etc. are stored, and there is always one there. If you add a new profile, you can see if a bad setting in your existing profile is causing problems, but I wouldn't expect your e-mail to show up there, as the e-mail will (should?) be in the original profile. I think the next step is to look in your profile directory and see if the e-mail files are there. By the way, do you use POP e-mail? Do you leave your messages on the server? The way most people use e-mail, they use POP and download the messages to their local machine. In this case, each mail folder will be a separate file under your profile directory. Are the mail folder files there? Mark, I do use POP e-mail for most of the accounts, in fact it is the only format with the account which I Am having challenges, permits. Also, do you think if a total re installation of SM 1.1.14 would be the ticket to correct this? Thank you all again. SamuelS No. If you've looked in your profile directory and the mail folder files are not there, re-installing SeaMonkey won't make them appear. If the files really aren't there, then I have to wonder if you're looking in the correct location. Someone else here usually provides some information that helps locate the profile directory - perhaps they will chime-in now and help? Otherwise, I'm not sure what the problem is. Do you have a back-up of your profile? How about your disk? Mark, I think I was confused by your input. I need to be clear that you understand that the e-mails do show up in my in-box, yet there are a few which do not show any content or html content, which is not readable. I have performed each step which P3H recommended and still receive a few messages a day which cannot be read. Some include e-bay and other professional messages I receive, which previously posed no problems at all. Thank you again for your input and assistance. SamuelS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/20/09 17:34, HeavyDuty wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: Chatting with Comcast tech support on line is an act of frustration. It, of course, as Peter Potomus has repeatedly noted, the techs only script is related to Outlook Express and IE. The techs have NO IDEA about settings for any other e-mail provider besides Comcast. here, do this. Start up OE, get the instructions from them for the OE settings. Come back here, and tell us what they said. Then someone can help you from there. OK Peter, the results are in. In Outlook Express, advanced settings: Outgoing Port 25 Outgoing mail server email.mcleodusa.net X my server requires authentication X use same settings as my incoming mail server Incoming Mail Server POP3 (nameofaccount)@mcleodusa.net password x X Log on using secure pass authentication. These settings DO NOT work and produce a 421 error. I tried this on ports 25 and 587. Well, Mcleod told you to use port 25, so there no use in try port 587. It's not a magic number - for it to be useful, someone has to be listening on it. An unknown error has occurred. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '421 Cannot connect to SMTP server 63.254.138.23 (63.254.138.23:25), connect error 10060', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 421, Error Number: 0x800CCC67 421 is an SMTP server error. Specifically, it is a temporary failure (generally, it means the server is too busy, but it could mean other temporary failures as well). The corrective action is usually to just try again. and it may work. What this *does* tell us is that you're talking to the SMTP server on port 25, so at least you've gotten that far. The connection to the server has failed. Account: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Server: 'email.mcleodusa.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10060, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E Yes, this error says no one is listening on port 587, but we expected that based on what Mcleod told you :-) I tried this while on the phone with McLeodusa tech support. This is being escalated. I'll just have wait now to find out if McLeodusa and Comcast are at odds, or what. At this point, it doesn't see that Comcast is in the picture. The only thing they can do (as far as I know) is block the port, which they don't appear to be doing (or you wouldn't have gotten the 'temporary failure' error above). Then, as you have suggested, when OE works, you are someone can help translate the OE settings to Seamonkey. I think anyone will be able to help you. Before you ask, though, just take the settings they've provided and have a look at the SeaMonkey server settings dialog. I think you'll find everything right there. Stand bye. Thank you for the information and analysis. Now I have a scosh of something intelligent to discuss with McCleod. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: tand bye. I'm going out on a limb here, and tell you a story. I recently found out that some people, in certain countries, can now download hotmail into SeaMonkey Mail, without using a program such as FreePops or the webmail extension. Hotmail has now become pop3 compatible. This is great news. Now, when I did what the instructions said, I had problems. It said to Use Secure Authentication and SSL setting. When I did this, nothing would work. After fiddling around, I found a combo. For Pop access, don't select the Authentication part, and select SSL. For SMTP, select the password and user name, but use TLS. Well, thats my story. Take it for what its worth. Thanks Peter, Gotcha'. The problem for me is that I do not know which variable to fiddle with. And, while I mess with all of them one at a time, if there is more than one to tweak simultaneously, the tweak factor becomes an imponderable, or at least impractical for all the combinations. So now I am waiting on McLeod for the next round of answers. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Thunderbird 3 is still receiving bug fixes, and there is time to get more if we confirm more bugs ... so we continue our focus of helping move bugs to fixed status. http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-01-22 has tips and starting points. And help is available on IRC in #bugday should you need advice. See http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing for other ways to contribute to Thunderbird's progress. Please join us this Thursday in #bugday! wsmwk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: changing the busy throbber
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when its busy],
put the following script into your userChrome.css file or into
Stylish. The image is a book turning pages. You can use any moving
image you want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.
toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
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I did not have the userChrome.css file in my SM profile
then create one. It a texted based file that goes into the chrome
directory.
And before you say anything, create one.
I have used the file attached in one of your next posting:
I've attached the file. Just put it into the profiles chrome folder.
If you already have a userChrome.css file there, then copy everything
in the file and paste it into the file already there. NOTE: Do all this
with SM closed.
ALL goes well - many thanks This animation is really more
readable/visible.
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Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
On 01/21/09 07:17, HeavyDuty wrote: Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. Actually, it does just the opposite. If Comcast is blocking outgoing port 25, then you would never be able to connect to the Mcleod server on that port - because Comcast would have been blocking it. Since you were able to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server on port 25, that implies Comcast is *not* blocking it. I wonder if Comcast was somehow redirecting your connection from Mcleod port 25 to Comcast's own SMTP server on port 25. You can test this by using telnet. From the run dialog, type the following: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 then report back the information that is presented in the window. To close that window, just type the word 'quit' and hit return. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: changing the busy throbber
Ray_Net wrote:
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
Ray_Net wrote:
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
To change the throbber when there is activity [aka when its busy],
put the following script into your userChrome.css file or into
Stylish. The image is a book turning pages. You can use any moving
image you want, as long as it will fit into that tiny little space.
toolbar #navigator-throbber[busy=true]
{list-style-image:
url(data:image/gif;base64,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!important;}
I did not have the userChrome.css file in my SM profile
then create one. It a texted based file that goes into the chrome
directory.
And before you say anything, create one.
I have used the file attached in one of your next posting:
I've attached the file. Just put it into the profiles chrome folder.
If you already have a userChrome.css file there, then copy everything
in the file and paste it into the file already there. NOTE: Do all this
with SM closed.
ALL goes well - many thanks This animation is really more
readable/visible.
Thank you for this interesting file. I love it.
--
John Doue
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Re: Viewing messages
On 01/21/09 06:21, NO wrote: Mark, I think I was confused by your input. I need to be clear that you understand that the e-mails do show up in my in-box, yet there are a few which do not show any content or html content, which is not readable. I have performed each step which P3H recommended and still receive a few messages a day which cannot be read. Some include e-bay and other professional messages I receive, which previously posed no problems at all. Thank you again for your input and assistance. SamuelS Oh... so you can see your e-mail folders which contain e-mail messages, but when you open these messages, there appears to be no content? What happens when you open the message, then use view - message source (or Ctrl+U)? Does that show anything? I've had cases where really old e-mail message content was no longer visible, but if I look at the source, it is there. I never figured out what was happening, as I was able to get the needed content from the source of the message and move on. I wonder if SeaMonkey knows that the message is there (through the use of the index file?) but the actual message is not there? If true, I wonder if the file containing the actual message content has become corrupted? I'm afraid I don't know enough about how SeaMonkey maintains messages to hazard much more than a guess. I would say restore from back-up. Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: where are the mail filters saved.
Uwe Brauer wrote: Hello I use quite a list of filters, however when I switch to another installations I would like to import these filters, as I do import my addresses. However I don't know in which files these filters are saved. Can anybody please help me? Thanks Uwe Brauer msgFilterRules.dat -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 07:17, HeavyDuty wrote: Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. Actually, it does just the opposite. If Comcast is blocking outgoing port 25, then you would never be able to connect to the Mcleod server on that port - because Comcast would have been blocking it. Since you were able to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server on port 25, that implies Comcast is *not* blocking it. I wonder if Comcast was somehow redirecting your connection from Mcleod port 25 to Comcast's own SMTP server on port 25. You can test this by using telnet. From the run dialog, type the following: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 then report back the information that is presented in the window. To close that window, just type the word 'quit' and hit return. Report: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 Command/DOS screen opens but is blank on run command, except for flashing cursor. In due time (maybe 45 seconds the following error message: 421 Cannot connect to SMTP server 63.254.138.23, connect error 10060. Connection lost to host. Then the CMD/DOS screen reverts to a commandline cursor with previous info retained on screen. QUIT is required to go back to the Windows desktop. telnet email.mcleodusa.net 587 Screen does not go blank, rather it reports: Connecting to email.mcleodusa.net . Then (in due time) the following additional message: Could not open connection to the host on port 587. Connect failed. Then the CMD/DOS screen immediately reverts to the Windows desktop. With what I //think// I've learned during this extensive discourse in this newsgroup, may I conclude that Comcast will not pass a request for access on port 25 (blocks port 25), and McLeodusa,net is not using (blocks) port 587? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Composer Question
NO wrote: Hello all.. I have a question about sig files, which is how do I hide the actual link in the sigfile while only showing the topic for which the receiver can just click? i.e. if I want to have a link to mozilla.support.seamonkey yet I only want to show the word HelpSM in the e-mail, how would I code for this? I trust this was clear.. Thanks again.. SamuelS you would type HelpSM and add one space after the M, now highlight it without the space, then click on Insert, Link, and in the space provided, type in mozilla.support.seamonkey. Actually, you would also add news://news.mozilla.org/support.mozilla.seamonkey so when they click it will automatically take them to the news server and the provide the group. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
On 01/21/09 09:30, HeavyDuty wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 07:17, HeavyDuty wrote: Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. Actually, it does just the opposite. If Comcast is blocking outgoing port 25, then you would never be able to connect to the Mcleod server on that port - because Comcast would have been blocking it. Since you were able to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server on port 25, that implies Comcast is *not* blocking it. I wonder if Comcast was somehow redirecting your connection from Mcleod port 25 to Comcast's own SMTP server on port 25. You can test this by using telnet. From the run dialog, type the following: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 then report back the information that is presented in the window. To close that window, just type the word 'quit' and hit return. Now another test. I can send on my earthlink server via comcast when I use port 587. This is because Comcast is not blocking port 587. This is normal. When I try to send to the earthlink server on port 25, I get the typical errors including greeting not recognized and error 10060. This is because earthlink uses port 587 and not 25. Right. Therefore, I am concluding that McLeodusa and Comcast are incompatible based on Comcast blocking port 25. That's the way it sounds, but don't give up just yet. Talk to Mcleod and let them know that Comcast is blocking port 25 and see if there is anything they can do. They probably won't, but you may as well ask anyway. I will wait to learn what McLeodusa second level tech support has to say. Good luck. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User Athentication mangement in SMTP using Comcast broadband.
Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 09:30, HeavyDuty wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 01/21/09 07:17, HeavyDuty wrote: Tom Coradeschi wrote: COMCAST does not allow outgoing SMTP traffic on port 25. If your SMTP host is set up to accept connections on port 587, they will allow that. Set your SMTP host configuration to be the same is it is when you are on your normal network (same hostname, login if required, etc). If your SMTP host is NOT set up to accept connections on 587, you will need to use COMCAST's SMTP connection (smtp.comcast.net) and authenticate yourself to that server either with your friend's credentials or, if you can have him/her do so for you, with a secondary account they have set up on your behalf. Tom, Thanks for that information. How did you come to learn this valuable piece of information? I will certainly pass this on to McLeod. What you say seems to confirm what Mark Hansen said about the 421 error indicating that it was the McLeod server sending the error. Actually, it does just the opposite. If Comcast is blocking outgoing port 25, then you would never be able to connect to the Mcleod server on that port - because Comcast would have been blocking it. Since you were able to talk to Mcleod's SMTP server on port 25, that implies Comcast is *not* blocking it. I wonder if Comcast was somehow redirecting your connection from Mcleod port 25 to Comcast's own SMTP server on port 25. You can test this by using telnet. From the run dialog, type the following: telnet email.mcleodusa.net 25 then report back the information that is presented in the window. To close that window, just type the word 'quit' and hit return. Now another test. I can send on my earthlink server via comcast when I use port 587. This is because Comcast is not blocking port 587. This is normal. When I try to send to the earthlink server on port 25, I get the typical errors including greeting not recognized and error 10060. This is because earthlink uses port 587 and not 25. Right. Therefore, I am concluding that McLeodusa and Comcast are incompatible based on Comcast blocking port 25. That's the way it sounds, but don't give up just yet. Talk to Mcleod and let them know that Comcast is blocking port 25 and see if there is anything they can do. They probably won't, but you may as well ask anyway. I will wait to learn what McLeodusa second level tech support has to say. Good luck. If nothing else, the mystery is clearing up. Still waiting om McLeod. Thanks to everyone for your help. It's been an education. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Viewing messages
NO wrote: . many levels snipped ... I think I was confused by your input. I need to be clear that you understand that the e-mails do show up in my in-box, yet there are a few which do not show any content or html content, which is not readable. I have performed each step which P3H recommended and still receive a few messages a day which cannot be read. Some include e-bay and other professional messages I receive, which previously posed no problems at all. Thank you again for your input and assistance. SamuelS Here is what I suggest. 1) Create a new mail folder (workxx), can be in your current profile. 2) Move any/all unreadable messages to workxx 3) Load up one of the unreadable messages. 4) Dislplay the message source . Should be ^U 4.1) Extract the message header + the first several lines of the message, and post them as a message here to the newsgroup. 5) Play with the View options: show message body as, show attachments, character encoding. How does the message body look when you look at its source? Is it present and readable? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj Unless you are suggesting Seamonkey is problematic running under Mac OS, I doubt if there is any difference on what computer or OS messages originate. While no expert, I believe seamonkey gets the time stamp for each message from the received e-mail (which has Universal Time ) and shows it based on your computer's time clock. If your friend's computer's clock is really messed up, it would send a wrong time. I doubt any currently operating computer BIOS would default back to 1969, so it would have to be set intentionally. Seamonkey /could/ defectively not register some received e-mail. and thus would call for/accept as new the next time it queried your e-mail host, but I doubt it because of the inconsistency. I still think you are experiencing a malfunction of the e-mail host (ISP E-mail server). In the alternative, it might be some gremlin-induced by av filtering, firewall, or virus. Last possibility is RAM memory starting to go bad, and that's a reach. Adjust the Seamonkey server settings. (left click the e-mail account, left click view settings for this account, left click server settings, and change some of the server setting boxes. This should cause that part of seamonkey settings to be re-written. If it keeps up, reinstall Seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Perhaps something wrong in the headers - per exemple no Date: entry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
On 01/21/09 15:16, HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj Unless you are suggesting Seamonkey is problematic running under Mac OS, I doubt if there is any difference on what computer or OS messages originate. While no expert, I believe seamonkey gets the time stamp for each message from the received e-mail (which has Universal Time ) and shows it based on your computer's time clock. If your friend's computer's clock is really messed up, it would send a wrong time. I doubt any currently operating computer BIOS would default back to 1969, so it would have to be set intentionally. Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). Seamonkey /could/ defectively not register some received e-mail. and thus would call for/accept as new the next time it queried your e-mail host, but I doubt it because of the inconsistency. I still think you are experiencing a malfunction of the e-mail host (ISP E-mail server). In the alternative, it might be some gremlin-induced by av filtering, firewall, or virus. Last possibility is RAM memory starting to go bad, and that's a reach. Adjust the Seamonkey server settings. (left click the e-mail account, left click view settings for this account, left click server settings, and change some of the server setting boxes. This should cause that part of seamonkey settings to be re-written. If it keeps up, reinstall Seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Disappearing Trash
When I delete something, and try to recapture it, it is not there in the trash folder. Can anyone explain that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: changing the busy throbber
Ray_Net wrote: Your animation looks coming from the turnbook.gif from http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/images/ :-) Anyway, i am not able to manipulate SM like you. ahhh, thats interesting! It could have been. Like I said, I stole it from a FF theme. Where they got it [or whom they stole it from ;-) ] I don't know. Maybe they got it from there, and added color. I don't know, and I really don't care. I just take what I see and like. I tried many different FF, Netscape, and other programs themes gifs, and settled on the turning book. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Disappearing Trash
Lori wrote: When I delete something, and try to recapture it, it is not there in the trash folder. Can anyone explain that? check your settings: View, Messages, All. Is it there now? If not, then look under Edit, Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and under Disk Space, take a look at your settings there. Do you have anything there that will delete the messages as soon as possible? -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj Unless you are suggesting Seamonkey is problematic running under Mac OS, I doubt if there is any difference on what computer or OS messages originate. While no expert, I believe seamonkey gets the time stamp for each message from the received e-mail (which has Universal Time ) and shows it based on your computer's time clock. If your friend's computer's clock is really messed up, it would send a wrong time. I doubt any currently operating computer BIOS would default back to 1969, so it would have to be set intentionally. sorry to say, but many people DO get messages dated 1969, including me. Furthermore, just recently I've been receiving messages dated 2033, 2050, and even 2075. Yeah me too, from /time-to-time/ pardon the pun. But that, I am assuming, is spoofing. The concern here are messages from friends, therefore presumably not spoofing spammers. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
Ray_Net wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Perhaps something wrong in the headers - per exemple no Date: entry. Maybe a peek at one of the messages using View | Message Source would reveal the transmital info and show where there was a discontinuity. As Mark Hansen mentions unix reports time differently. If so, then a default before time could happen under a misfunctioning linix/unix/zenix etc smtp or pop3 server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
I have the same problem with the duplicate messages and the 12/31/1969 date. I also get duplicate message with the actual date, and this problem occurs on most of my messages in a an email folder or my inbox. It started when I was using Netscape chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11590 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11590 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
MAP wrote: I have the same problem with the duplicate messages and the 12/31/1969 date. I also get duplicate message with the actual date, and this problem occurs on most of my messages in a an email folder or my inbox. It started when I was using Netscape chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11590 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11590 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ Who is your ISP? Who is your e-mail host? Do these messages come from one sender or many? Do you know who the one sender's e-mail provider and local connection (ISP) are? This might help track down some errant , busted piece of software or hardware. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
On 01/21/09 16:21, HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj I sense you are finished with this, so what I will add is gratuitous. The signals that run on the internet actually run around the world, over it and under it via cables, fiber optics and satellites. West coast to east coast is irrelevant. Unless you consider the time zone difference and how that might affect the display of a date in one zone that was create in the other :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
On 01/21/09 15:52, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll] Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host. Just some I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message. Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a reply to one of the Apple messages. I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the only one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple]. bj Unless you are suggesting Seamonkey is problematic running under Mac OS, I doubt if there is any difference on what computer or OS messages originate. While no expert, I believe seamonkey gets the time stamp for each message from the received e-mail (which has Universal Time ) and shows it based on your computer's time clock. If your friend's computer's clock is really messed up, it would send a wrong time. I doubt any currently operating computer BIOS would default back to 1969, so it would have to be set intentionally. sorry to say, but many people DO get messages dated 1969, including me. Furthermore, just recently I've been receiving messages dated 2033, 2050, and even 2075. Well, in some cases, the sender is specifically setting errant dates in the hope that your (sorted) inbox will place them at the end you're looking at. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj I sense you are finished with this, so what I will add is gratuitous. The signals that run on the internet actually run around the world, over it and under it via cables, fiber optics and satellites. West coast to east coast is irrelevant. I was just thinking if it was someone nearby, there wouldn't have been that many time changes, but I get your point about not really knowing the route any mail will take. :) Not happening on all her messages could point to a bad local dial up or broadband connection, or field mice in the office of her ISP. Eliminate your concerns for problems on your end by updating Seamonkey to 1.1.14. Click on the Seamonkey logo on the upper right hand corner of seamonkey screen. If you have broadband, the download is rapid and the install is seamless, once you double click on the downloaded file. BTW, just what parts of 606 are you a fan of? The whole city, or maybe I should say downtown. Chicago is just my *adopted* favorite city, that I have only visited on business, or brief personal trips. Love the Bears and the Cubs too. I would have moved there if the weather didn't get so cold. [I've lived in the south all my life and that was just too big an adjustment.]:) Thanks for helping me! bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
chicagofan wrote: HeavyDuty wrote: chicagofan wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: Just FYI: On UNIX systems, time is tracked as the number of milliseconds since 1970. I can see how a time of zero adjusted for time zones could result in a displayed value of 12/31/1969. ... which implies that somewhere along the life of the message, the date didn't get set properly (or got cleared). This makes sense to me, because she's on the West Coast, and I'm on the East Coast. That somewhere along the way fits, because it doesn't happen on all of her messages. Thanks so much, I just wanted to be sure it's not something wrong with SM, since I haven't updated recently. Thanks everyone! bj I sense you are finished with this, so what I will add is gratuitous. The signals that run on the internet actually run around the world, over it and under it via cables, fiber optics and satellites. West coast to east coast is irrelevant. I was just thinking if it was someone nearby, there wouldn't have been that many time changes, but I get your point about not really knowing the route any mail will take. :) Not happening on all her messages could point to a bad local dial up or broadband connection, or field mice in the office of her ISP. Eliminate your concerns for problems on your end by updating Seamonkey to 1.1.14. Click on the Seamonkey logo on the upper right hand corner of seamonkey screen. If you have broadband, the download is rapid and the install is seamless, once you double click on the downloaded file. BTW, just what parts of 606 are you a fan of? The whole city, or maybe I should say downtown. Chicago is just my *adopted* favorite city, that I have only visited on business, or brief personal trips. Love the Bears and the Cubs too. I would have moved there if the weather didn't get so cold. [I've lived in the south all my life and that was just too big an adjustment.]:) Thanks for helping me! bj Stepping out of my total anonymity for two kilobytes... Yas, yas, yas, it is cold here, down to minus 30 WCF last week. Twenty plus inches of snow in my back yard. My neighbor has at least 1000 pounds of icicles hanging off his roof and I am looking at a $1000 gas bill. Stay south, eh? You mis-pronounced two words --they are: Da' Bulz and Da' Bearz. Hey, how 'bout dem Cubz? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What causes duplicate messages?
On 01/21/09 17:15, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: the sender is specifically setting errant dates in the hope that your (sorted) inbox will place them at the end you're looking at. why at the end? Why not at the beginning? :-) I said the end you're looking at. I see the smiley, but I guess I'm not getting the joke. Sorry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
