Joe,
I think that this idea was originally patented by the Italians, but
the Mafia patent expired and it is now FFA (Free for all) and
widely used by US.
Hakan
At 21:59 06/09/2005, you wrote:
we are the younger brother looking up to the big
brother for protection against bullies,
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 01:02:34 -0400
From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In all seriousness, can you really imagine US
John I wrote:
I have identified a few waves in the nefarious Canadian assault on the
US: Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Barenaked Ladies, Avril Lavine, Shania
Twain and the like. Oh it's on Canada, it's on!
I guess you didn't hear about the Newfies who phoned up the White
House to
I'd rather by shot by a fascist than shoot at a neighbor.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you be willing to be shot or hanged first? Given the typical
methods of authoritarian governments, that's the crucial question.
In 1812 coercion was not necessary; propaganda alone sufficed. The
American
You're assuming Canada has the bucks to replace lost aircraft. Rather
a naive assumption. LOL. The Canadian military is little more than a
token peace keeping force. I come from a family with a long history of
military service and I hate to say it and I hope I am not offending
anyone of
Being Canadian myself (eh!) I have already accepted the fact that we are
not a collection of provinces and territories. Rather, we are 13
states. What chance in hell would we ever have of defending against the
good old U.S. of A.
Don't get me wrong. I don't ever want our 2 countries to EVER
"we are the younger brother looking up to the big
brother for protection against bullies,"
ROFLMFAO So go to the biggest bully for protection is that it?
Yeah I guess that has been tried before.
Joe
John Mullan wrote:
Being Canadian myself (eh!) I have already accepted the fact that
In all seriousness, can you really imagine US citizens taking up arms
against Canada? No one I know would. I would go to jail first.
Joe Street wrote:
we are the younger brother looking up to the big
brother for protection against bullies,
ROFLMFAO So go to the biggest bully for
Would you be willing to be shot or hanged first? Given the typical
methods of authoritarian governments, that's the crucial question.
In 1812 coercion was not necessary; propaganda alone sufficed. The
American immigrants who made up most of the population of the Niagara
peninsula found it hard to
Mike Weaver wrote:
In all seriousness, can you really imagine US citizens taking up arms
against Canada? No one I know would. I would go to jail first.
Once the propaganda machine begins spewing its hate, bombs and
bullets can follow. We've fought the Canadians before (and
no disrespect joe, but but you're assuming here that a given government
wouldn't replace the lost aircraft. rather a naive notion. high attrition
conflicts occur precisely because the opposing governments are determined to
carry on
fighting despite the losses.
-chris b.
In a message dated
Just look at the Iran/Iraq war.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no disrespect joe, but but you're assuming here that a given government
wouldn't replace the lost aircraft. rather a naive notion. high attrition
conflicts occur precisely because the opposing governments are determined to
carry on
no doubt under the pretext of liberating the canadian people from the
injustice of a universal health care system.
-chris b.
In a message dated 8/24/05 7:46:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Suppose Canada decides that it will demand (which is
our right) what it wants for that oil?. . .How
actually, from a strategic military standpoint, this is an extremely wise
practice. in any high attrition conflict (read: protracted a/o bloody war),
the
human resources are depleted well before the hardware. trained pilots are
about the most difficult personnel to replace and their loss
LOL true we need someone to save us from a certain slow agonizing death
in a hospital waiting room.
A student of this university died recently after turning away from a
huge waiting line with a case of viral meningitis. This is outrageous
especially in a country where we pay so much tax. So
Except the loss of a pilot is most likely accompanied by the loss of an
aircraft so when they are all gone what good does it do to have a bunch
of trained pilots standing around with nothing to fly??
Joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
actually, from a strategic military standpoint, this is an
Don't laugh. Anything could happen under this regime. I personally
will never ever take up arms against Canada but be don't surprised
if you start to see Canada (surely our greatest friend in the world)
demonized in the next 10 years as a pretext to invasion.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no
robert luis rabello wrote:
Joe Street wrote:
Really?
When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada?
I built a house with Canadian lumber just three years ago and did not
see any of the problems you report. There are still a number of new
homes going up in
Joe Street wrote:
Well perhaps if you live in the west where lumber supply is most
plentiful the situation is different. It wouldn't surprise me to learn
that the western provinces also keep the best wood and ship the crap to
the east since they have the attitude towards queens park that
By the way Joe,
I have some friends in Mississauga (spelling) who have a polka bandand come down to visit. In addition I have somefriends in Montreal (Canada?) who I also see regularly.
I have thoroughly enjoyed conversations with ALL of them regarding this and other, similar subjects. I wasn't
TarynToo wrote:
As long as profit and greed trump all other motives,
and the most heavily armed country in the world will take up arms for
the financial gain of its masters, every country has something to lose.
And something to fear. Many Canadians have been wondering what will
Brian Ramsay wrote:
What I'd like to know is - What does a country sitting
on top of a sea of oil need with nuclear energy???
In the fifties, the USA was sitting on a sea of oil, and I believe we
were the leading oil exporter, but we began the development of peaceful
use of
No doubt mike and I share the same sentiments towards many great folks
I have met from south of the border. When I use terms like dumb
americans etc I am painfully aware that much of Canadian culture and
attitudes are shaped by the mostly american content on the television
(amongst those who
Many Canadians have been wondering what will happen when the US sets
it's sights on Canadian resources.
As America already considers all of South America as in its (Sphere of
influence) you don’t stand a snowballs chance in hell if America wants
your oil it will take it. Just listen to Bushes
Greetings,
Finally, you mean Canadians are waking up. My parents pointed out these
facts to us as children, 3 or 4 decades ago. The US has invited Canada to
join with them 4 times, that I am aware of. The last time being when
Canada rescued diplomats in the middle east. I do remember the
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
Finally, you mean Canadians are waking up.
All you Canadians need to do is examine the behavior of the U.S.
government with respect to free trade in softwood lumber to get an
inkling of what the future portends. The NAFTA agreement contains
I know, I know..I just hope we won't have to kick their butts and
burn their parliament again.after the last four times they tried to
invade us you think they would have learned.
Chris Lloyd wrote:
Many Canadians have been wondering what will happen when the US sets
Yes too bad these 'deals' were worked out behind closed doors without
any public discourse eh? NAFTA is a joke. It is a matter of national
shame and embarrasment that we allowed that to happen. Why the hell we
do not have a system of referendum on issues like the Swiss have I
don't understand.
Joe Street wrote:
Yes too bad these 'deals' were worked out behind closed doors without
any public discourse eh? NAFTA is a joke.
I remember having heated discussions about this with my Canadian
father in law when I lived in California. NAFTA is a two edged sword
whose economic
robert luis rabello wrote:
The trouble is, no ruling has EVER gone in favor of the U.S. with
respect to softwood lumber,
Really?
When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a
dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country.
All the good
robert luis rabello wrote:
The trouble is, no ruling has EVER gone in favor of the U.S. with
respect to softwood lumber,
Really?
When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a
dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country.
All the good lumber
What number do you consider to be the handful ?
Greg H.
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From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:45
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Our military is laughable -our
pilots
From a private forester (in the US) point of view I tend to agree.
Really?
When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a
dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country.
All the good lumber goes south and what is left is the warped twisted
boards
Keith:
You da man! Thanks for posting that. It's the same old story of
course; the US is perfectly willing to play by the rules, codes,
agreements, laws so long as it meets their needs, otherwise they are
quite willing to just say so what and do what they want. Maybe they
WILL murder Chavez,
a conflict with the US?
Get real.
J
Greg and April wrote:
What number do you consider to be " the handful "?
Greg H.
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From: "Joe Street" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:45
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Unfortunately we are no longer part of the most powerful empire on earth.
We will have to do something smarter than fight a war.
Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Joe Street wrote:
I admit I don't know the exact number of aircraft in readiness status,
who
I referenced this in an earlier post but, I think it's relevent in this thread.
Mike
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"In 1993, the well-regarded military historian John Keegan published a book "The History of War" which gives a magisterial survey of this topic. In it he describes and analyses the development
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14:50
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear
Program
I admit I don't know the exact number of aircraft in readiness
status, who does? They do some funky stuff that the americans are embarrased
and envious they didn't think of themselves
Joe Street wrote:
Really?
When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada?
I built a house with Canadian lumber just three years ago and did not
see any of the problems you report. There are still a number of new
homes going up in my neighborhood, and I haven't noticed any
The UN will impose economic sanctions on Iran, if Iran
doesn't stop playing with nuclear energy. One of
these sanctions would be to stop them from selling
their oil on the world market. And since Iran is the
4th largest oil producer in the world, it would
definitely affect the price of crude
C.J.;
What the devil has oil to do with it? (everything - I know) Perhaps
they would like to save some oil or perhaps they would like to join the
nuclear big boys club. Why doesn't Iran have just as much right to
'play with ' as you put it, nuclear energy as any other nation who has
the
A lot of us could see the war with Iraq coming - even with the dog pony show happening at the UN.
Now that US attention is turned toward Iran, there is even more chatter on the Internet about a pending war. However, with resources stretched to the limit and and an effective anti-recruitment
C.J.,
It is obvious that Iran also have uranium to develop and why would they
not be allowed to do so? US and the west would rather see Iran exporting
the uranium, than using it. It is obvious that even peaceful use of nuclear
energy, is a threat for the needs of US.
Uranium is also a fossil
Hi Bud,
I guess anyone with a nuclear weapon doesn´t get attacked by the U.S. (see North Korea) or perhaps if your neighbor gets invaded for its oil you want a deterent so you won´t be attacked. Also it could be that if nuclear energyis good enough for China to increase their electric power
Hey Mike;
What if they called a war and nobody showed? The odd draft dodger is
easy to deal with but suppose everybody just folded their arms and said
'"no"?
Trouble is joe average is too well indoctrinated to consider a little
civil disobedience. Where would they incarcerate them all? Gitmo
With China sitting on the Security council and being one of Iran''s
biggest customers I wonder how far sanctions will get?
Rick
C. J. Thornton wrote:
The UN will impose economic sanctions on Iran, if Iran
doesn't stop playing with nuclear energy. One of
these sanctions would be to stop
Why a war if it is only to remove the enrichment
facilities, Israel just nipped across the border and blew up Iraq’s
nuclear site. I’m sure a few missiles fire from off shore would do the
job. But that does mean they would still control their own oil. Chris.
--
No virus
Chris Lloyd wrote:
Why a war if it is only to remove the enrichment facilities, Israel just
nipped across the border and blew up Iraq’s nuclear site. I’m sure a few
missiles fire from off shore would do the job. But that does mean they
would still control their own oil. Chris.
After the
Joe,
"...suppose everybody just folded their arms and said 'no'?"
Man! Don't do that. I just had to breath into a paper bag for the last ten minutes!
The potential of a movement can make the power of money insignificant.
"Still wouldn't that be a lark eh?"
Ah ha!! A Canuck! I should have
Iran has a relatively large population in proportion to its oil supplies.
Going back well into the Shah's time it professed to be worried about
eventually running out of oil, and was interested in using its oil
resources to build up a permanent energy supply through nuclear power.
Probably some
C. J. Thornton wrote:
What I'd like to know is - What does a country sitting
on top of a sea of oil need with nuclear energy???
A deterrent.
robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca
Ranger Supercharger Project Page
I hope I am not the first to jump in head first on this one. I
know there are a lot of much more educated people than me here. Just
the same, why shouldn't I spout off? I simply hope for PEACE.
The UN will impose economic sanctions on Iran, if Iran
doesn't stop playing with nuclear energy.
What I'd like to know is - What does a country sittingon top of a sea of oil need with nuclear energy???
Think about it. If the price of oil keeps climbing, the more oil
Iran can sell means more $$ for them. If they are using their oil
to run their own country, they are missing out on some big
On Aug 23, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Brian Ramsay wrote:
Think about it. If the price of oil keeps climbing, the more oil Iran
can sell means more $$ for them. If they are using their oil to run
their own country, they are missing out on some big money. Also, it
is good to diversify in
"AUG 20: Oil may rise above $75 a barrel in the next
three months if the dispute over Irans nuclear programme causes the country to
cut exports, said David Thurtell, head of commodity research at Commonwealth
Bank of Australia. "
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