Seems to have been rather effective.
http://www.fair.org/extra/9808/global-smokescreen.html
August 1998
Global Smokescreen
As evidence continues to emerge that global warming is already
occurring (Nature, 4/23/98), the oil industry is gearing up to try to
convince the public that science is
http://fair.org/extra/0207/amtrak.html
July/August 2002
The Railroading of Amtrak
Trains, planes and automobiles held to different standards
By Christopher Ott
Coverage of Amtrak contains two surprises: the details reported about
the 31-year-old railroad, and the details that aren't
http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/press-energy.html
May/June 1991
Press Ignores the Obvious in U.S. Energy Policy
By Daniel Lazare
Following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, the Wall Street Journal
(9/10/90) reported on why Japan has been so much more successful in
conserving oil than
Hi,
I hope as the economies of different countries become
interdependent, people will start questioning where
the products come from. Today people oppose any goods
that abuse human rights, may be in future people will
oppose economies that are causing global warming ?
Sooner the better..
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:10:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Backward compatability does not seem to be at
issue.
Yes and no. Once it is established that backward compatability is not
at issue or is mostly not at issue, for dino-diesel engines, then this
information needs to be disseminated or chewed
Some in the biofuel groups and elsewhere may look askance at the CARB
instituting such seeming common-sense measures for slightly decreasing
emissions and improving air quality near school-children, but then
seeming to fail to implement biofuel and other clean-air technologies.
I'm not sure if
Yeah, it's kinda interesting the article on SF busses being forced to go
to CNG or some other alterna-petrol proposal, due to CARB emmision
guidelines. Good that the Fleet manager was fighting back for Diesel,
although absolutely NO mention was made of B100 or even B20 for that
matter. It just
The difference is more than semantic; it obscures the fact that what
America suffers from is not so much a lack of conservation as a broad
array of government programs aimed at fostering hyper-consumption.
The same day that Matthew Wald was holding forth on the national
appetite, Washington
Light rail, modern high speed
inter-urban rail, hybrid buses, etc. need support because their competition
has lured away all their customers over the years through glamorous
salesmanship and appeals to the freedoms of air travel or solo driving.
Not only have these factors contributed to the
This thread just keeps getting funnier...unless of course these
pronouncements are meant to be taken seriously.
Marc
Also... Napoleon's invasion of Russa was an attempt to cut off
America's
hemp supply, thus crippling its' navy.
Napoleon at war with America? New one on me.
At 11:20 AM
Veg oils should work. I wouldnt expect any
critters to be attracted to this.
The gycerin left probably wouldnt work as it
seems to be somewhat water soluble.
I remember the Alfa Romeo owner club used to
recommend making a tar from used motor oil and
lint from vacuum cleaner bags and dryer
Glenn wrote:
In theory it is possible to break methyl esters
or any other hydrocarbon chain into smaller CH4 molecules.
Design a device that's borrowed from a Babington Burner, limit the air
intake and install a heavy duty spark plug with the grounding flange
removed. Use another
Dear Hakan,
some comments:
I think I was talking about biofuels.
FT-fuels made of biomass is a synthetic fuel made
of biomass via gasification and the
Fischer-Tropsch-synthesis. But it is not ready for
use.
Biogas upgraded to Natural Gas is Natural Gas from
Biogas and it is 100% renewable
Daniel,
Yes you are right and I misunderstood you
when you talked about NG. The use in percent
of fleet is largest in The Netherlands, it is very
small in Sweden and I believe also in Switzerland.
If I am not wrong, it is some use in Germany
and it is comparable with Sweden and Switzerland.
Hello,
I produce biodiesel and plan to convert a car engine that works with gas to
diesel. I plan to use diesel injectors, instead of spark plugs. I know the
compression ratio is different, but I wonder if it works or not. Any idea
about it..?
also mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
YES U CAN CONVERT YOUR PETROL ENGINES TO DIESEL INJECTION MODE,
BUT LIFE OF PISTON ,RINGS, SLEEVES WILL BE LESS,
DONT WOREY ABOUT COMPRESION RATIOS AS WOOD GAS WORKES ON LOWCOMPRESION RATIOS.
U CAN DO IT YOURSELF,
REGARDS,
V.GANESAN
INDIA.
OF
Ozan Tezer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The ratio is REALLY different, and thus a diesel head and block are built
much heavier. The early (oil crisis response) atrocious GM diesel failures
(which are probably responsible for why AMericans don't drive diesel cars)
were essentially a gasoline 350 with a diesel head. They aren't around
Hello,
I am trying to find a rough estimate of the quantity of WVO being
produced in the UK as part of a undergraduate project that I am
involved in. Does anyone have this information or know where I can
get it?
Thanks,
James
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Dear Ozan:
As you mentioned, the engine compression ratios is going to be a problem.
The compression of gasoline engine is around 9 to 1, and the diesel engine
is around 20 to1. The modifications to change would be extensive, and
expensive. I am not even mentioning the rest the changes of
At 08:40 PM 12/12/2002, you wrote:
This is a bit OT, but I don't know where else to address an audience
with the potential interest level.
I'm planning to build a new house in a rural area, and I'd like to do
it in an ecologically sound way. The plan at present is 1700 sq.ft.,
straw bale walls,
Seems to have been rather effective.
http://www.fair.org/extra/9808/global-smokescreen.html
August 1998
Global Smokescreen
As evidence continues to emerge that global warming is already
occurring (Nature, 4/23/98), the oil industry is gearing up to try to
convince the public that science is
http://fair.org/extra/0207/amtrak.html
July/August 2002
The Railroading of Amtrak
Trains, planes and automobiles held to different standards
By Christopher Ott
Coverage of Amtrak contains two surprises: the details reported about
the 31-year-old railroad, and the details that aren't
http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/press-energy.html
May/June 1991
Press Ignores the Obvious in U.S. Energy Policy
By Daniel Lazare
Following the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, the Wall Street Journal
(9/10/90) reported on why Japan has been so much more successful in
conserving oil than
girl mark,
I have been doing my own research into why the GM diesel failure happened
and the only information I have found was that the head bolts stretched and
that this was the primary failure for the GM line because the bolts were not
torqued at correct intervals and/or the head bolts
Backward compatability does not seem to be at
issue. Japenese manufacturers diesel models do
not seem to have the endurance to go as long as
European autos
Not true. The Japanese have built some amazingly tough and
long-lasting diesels, and they still do. The Japanese companies are
right up
Dear Hakan,
some comments:
I think I was talking about biofuels.
FT-fuels made of biomass is a synthetic fuel made
of biomass via gasification and the
Fischer-Tropsch-synthesis. But it is not ready for
use.
Biogas upgraded to Natural Gas is Natural Gas from
Biogas and it is 100% renewable
This is not so. The 5.7 liter Olds diesel was a new engine from the
ground
up. It shared external dimensions with other V-8 GM engines, but NONE of
the
internal parts are interchangeable.
Where did you get this information? Not doubting what you are saying,
however I have been
Hello
This is the FAQ about gas engine convertion in my country specially with
those WW II old military Jeeps or old trucks and the way people has deal
with it is the following:
They sell the gasoline engine with the gearbox or get rid of them, then
they buy an used japanese diesel engine
Daniel wrote:
snip
Biodiesel does not have the best reputation cause
of the problems of monocultures.
You might as well say that most food doesn't have the best
reputation, for the same reason. That's not the only way to grow
food, not even the best way, in fact it's the worst way. - As
Kris said:
Ater doing a little reading, I must adjust my statement
slightly but, Harmon you are way off base here.
Hardly. It's pretty clear you have no personal knowledge of this
stuff and have been reading the wrong stuff.
In this country both hemp and marijuana come from the
- Original Message -
From: Grahams
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 07:00
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Embodied energy
Research , research, research... did I get my point across? Building a
house is a BIG financial and lifestyle investment. Before you choose or
discard any options try to
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
YES U CAN CONVERT YOUR PETROL ENGINES TO DIESEL INJECTION MODE,
BUT LIFE OF PISTON ,RINGS, SLEEVES WILL BE LESS,
DONT WOREY ABOUT COMPRESION RATIOS AS WOOD GAS WORKES ON LOWCOMPRESION RATIOS.
U CAN DO IT YOURSELF,
REGARDS,
V.GANESAN
INDIA.
I think Ozan means gasoline, not
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, venkat gasn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
YES U CAN CONVERT YOUR PETROL ENGINES TO DIESEL INJECTION MODE,
BUT LIFE OF PISTON ,RINGS, SLEEVES WILL BE LESS,
DONT WOREY ABOUT COMPRESION RATIOS AS WOOD GAS WORKES ON
LOWCOMPRESION RATIOS.
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Tezer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I produce biodiesel and plan to convert a car engine that works with
gas to
diesel. I plan to use diesel injectors, instead of spark plugs. I
know the
compression ratio is different, but I wonder if it works or not.
Hello,
I am trying to find a rough estimate of the quantity of WVO being
produced in the UK as part of a undergraduate project that I am
involved in. Does anyone have this information or know where I can
get it?
Thanks,
James
You asked before, and you got some responses. Don't you read the
Why not use veggie oil rather than biodiesel Martin?
Keith
Well I have been reading about hydrocarbon cracking on the hobbicast
list and trying to stir up some information. So I was thinking about
biodiesel and wondering if you could do the same with it. Perhaps I can
burn biodiesel in my
Hakan,
What we Americans call gas, or gasoline, the British (and perhaps
others) call petrol.
Craig
Hakan Falk wrote:
No, he means gas, since Juan was writing about gas engine.
Yes, if you want to run a gasoline engine in injection mode
for gas, it will work fine. Only a slight language
girl mark,
I have been doing my own research into why the GM diesel failure happened
and the only information I have found was that the head bolts stretched and
that this was the primary failure for the GM line because the bolts were not
torqued at correct intervals and/or the head bolts
Ken,
I've built a couple of outbuildings on my lot in Berkeley using
corrugated steel roofing, and I just used conventional rafters with
purlins - 2x4's in one case, 3x6's in the other - running at right
angles to, and on top of, the rafters to support the corrugated. Very
easy to do, and the
No, he means gas, since Juan was writing about gas engine.
Yes, if you want to run a gasoline engine in injection mode
for gas, it will work fine. Only a slight language problem
and I am happy that I am not the only foreigner with this.
It is some differences between English and Americans on
coachgeo3 wrote:
Ive read some post in other places where folk have used diesel fuel,
and waste motor oils to make a paste or inside body part rust
prevention sprays(like in doors). Military has run test on diff.
oils for this purpose, but not veg oils.
I live in the rust belt so I
Would be interesting to to have that methane cleaned up and processed into
methanol. :) A small bio-source of methanol . mm
Anyone know of a small methanol processing unit?
James Slayden
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, girl mark wrote:
It seems a little backwards to do this- after all the
hrmm,
wonder if that would work for glyc . (my brain starts turning).
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, robert luis rabello wrote:
Glenn wrote:
In theory it is possible to break methyl esters
or any other hydrocarbon chain into smaller CH4 molecules.
Design a device that's borrowed
stick with converting it to E85 or NG.
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ozan Tezer wrote:
Hello,
I produce biodiesel and plan to convert a car engine that works with gas to
diesel. I plan to use diesel injectors, instead of spark plugs. I know the
compression ratio is different, but I wonder if it
Hakan, Greg April, Caroline, et. al. --
Thanks for your detailed responses -- I'll check out all those ideas
and more. I agree that the mold problem with straw bales could
have been mitigated with proper permeability, and also it's import-
ant EXACTLY how you support the first course of bales
I know of someone who has a two story HUGE strawbale house in the Santa
Cruz mountains, 12K of solar completely off the grid, solar water heating
for both home, spa, and subfloor heading. They provided for awesome
passive heating on the south window structure. Let me know if you want to
visit
Harmon Seaver wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, venkat gasn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
YES U CAN CONVERT YOUR PETROL ENGINES TO DIESEL INJECTION MODE,
BUT LIFE OF PISTON ,RINGS, SLEEVES WILL BE LESS,
DONT WOREY ABOUT COMPRESION RATIOS AS WOOD GAS WORKES ON
The person who devolopes a small methanol processing unit, stands to make a
lot of money if big bussiness doesn't drive him under.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: James Slayden
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:00
Subject: Re: [biofuel] [m]ethyl esters to methane
Would be
- Original Message -
From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:12
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Embodied energy
I'm not even sure
if I'll be able to get load-bearing strawbale past the building dept.,
but
many in the area
Yes, it puts your head on European medieval buildings and
if you study works from restoration experts on this type of
buildings, you can avoid a lot of problems. The key is to
keep the construction open, so it can dry up any humidity
sufficiently fast. The moment you apply any plastic paints
or
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harmon Seaver wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, venkat gasn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
YES U CAN CONVERT YOUR PETROL ENGINES TO DIESEL INJECTION MODE,
BUT LIFE OF PISTON ,RINGS, SLEEVES
Harmon Seaver wrote:
Kris said:
Ater doing a little reading, I must adjust my statement
slightly but, Harmon you are way off base here.
Hardly. It's pretty clear you have no personal knowledge of this
stuff and have been reading the wrong stuff.
In this country both hemp and
Would be interesting to to have that methane cleaned up and processed into
methanol. :) A small bio-source of methanol . mm
Anyone know of a small methanol processing unit?
No, despite much searching. Ken said he did though - any news, Ken? I
put this question to the GAS list at
Keith-
We need to support rail transport (not to mention bus transport) not based
on a government fiscal cost argument. We need to do it because it's right
for the environment. If you argue that Amtrak should get proportionate
funding inline with air, the statistics you pointed out fail to
Hi James,
You could try EPA in UK as they carry lot this type info.
Regards,
Damian
biofuel@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to find a rough estimate of the quantity of WVO being
produced in the UK as part of a undergraduate project that I am
involved in. Does anyone
Harmon Seaver wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harmon Seaver wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, venkat gasn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
YES U CAN CONVERT YOUR PETROL ENGINES TO DIESEL INJECTION MODE,
BUT LIFE
Sorryrail miles traveled per capita has been at less than 20miles/yr,
not 200miles/yr. The ratio of 1/85th that of US air travel/capita is about
right.
rail is less than 1/85th that of air travel @ 200miles vs 1700-plus miles
for air travel---see
I figured it was easier to vaporize biodiesel than veggie oil. This
summer I want to experiment with a pre-burning chamber and see if I can
do without any special nozzles or a pump.
---
Martin Klingensmith
infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net]
nnytech.net
-Original Message-
From:
Hi Myles
It's not what I'm saying, it's what the news article said. We have
had quite a lot of discussion on rail, and comparisons between
different modes of transport. Try a search for Amtrak or rail or
trains in the archives. Mere miles travelled is not a very good
comparison. We had this,
The mold issue with strawbale or ANY otherr building material all has to do
with weather detailing, and with the type of plaster used (ie, I hate
cement stucco) and if it's applied correctly. This covers a huge array of
possible mistakes, and these mistakes also occur with stickframe houses
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:35, you wrote:
Ken,
I've built a couple of outbuildings on my lot in Berkeley using
corrugated steel roofing, and I just used conventional rafters with
purlins - 2x4's in one case, 3x6's in the other - running at right
angles to, and on top of, the rafters to support
Hehehehehe, check this out
http://www.mitm.com/wt_drum_evaporator.html
James Slayden
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:10:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Backward compatability does not seem to be at
issue.
Yes and no. Once it is established that backward compatability is not
at issue or is mostly not at issue, for dino-diesel engines, then this
information needs to be disseminated or chewed
It just started raining cats and dogs up here, and my biodiesel setup is
outdoors (only slightly covered by blue tarps). We don't get winter here,
we get 'the rains'.
I'm standing in the kitchen watching the lake that's forming out there (and
a lake full of cats and dogs is LOUD). The lake is
Some in the biofuel groups and elsewhere may look askance at the CARB
instituting such seeming common-sense measures for slightly decreasing
emissions and improving air quality near school-children, but then
seeming to fail to implement biofuel and other clean-air technologies.
I'm not sure if
Hehehehe. Sorry but this is too funny. Gotta get pics of that!! BTW,
don't get washed away. Hey, an idea!! put the stuff out that needs to
be washed and just let it rain on it . ;-)
Now on topic, have you tried to boubble dry before and what were the
results?
James Slayden (still
Yeah, it's kinda interesting the article on SF busses being forced to go
to CNG or some other alterna-petrol proposal, due to CARB emmision
guidelines. Good that the Fleet manager was fighting back for Diesel,
although absolutely NO mention was made of B100 or even B20 for that
matter. It just
U serious about Biosmell's 55 Gal catchment filling up that fast?!! Holly
Schyte!! Time for the Cistern
Thanks for the info on bubble-drying. Nice bit of info to know. I was
gunna do it anyway cause you noted it in class ;-)
James Slayden
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, girl mark wrote:
I am going to get a photo of this. It sucks.
We actually just started talking last night (I've got biodiesel-making
roommates as well) about doing rainwater catchment for the next wash water.
And Biosmell just set up a (55-gallon I presume) rain barrel at his house
and filled it in 15 minutes.
Please do it
If someone doesn't do it, I might just call up Graham N. and broker it
myself ;-) Sheesh!!!
James Slayden
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:
Some in the biofuel groups and elsewhere may look askance at the CARB
instituting such seeming
Jean-Leon Morin wrote:
Where did you get this information? Not doubting what you are saying,
however I have been repeatedly told by good sources thta this was a
converted gasoline engine. I believed the block was in fact the same as an
olds V8...
J-L
That's a common belief, and I
I'm still confused- can you clear this up just one more time, please- I
promise I'll write it down- is girl mark a guy or girl?
---
Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906
203.324.4371
The difference is more than semantic; it obscures the fact that what
America suffers from is not so much a lack of conservation as a broad
array of government programs aimed at fostering hyper-consumption.
The same day that Matthew Wald was holding forth on the national
appetite, Washington
Ken Provost wrote:
Hakan, Greg April, Caroline, et. al. --
I'm very interested in radiant heat,
so I'll check on pump lifetimes as a possible problem.
We put radiant heat in our floors, and we love it! The lower floor of
our house has plastic hose buried in concrete. The upper
robert luis rabello wrote:
In the month that
we've been in our house, we've used 8.3 gigajoules in natural gas for heat
and domestic hot water. (For the metrically challenged among you, that's 78
672 Btu, or 23 kilowatt hours.) That's an astonishing amount of energy, but
we understand
If you want rust prevention use fish oil.
I think Rustoleum is fish oil based.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: MH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:42 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Veg. Oil and or soaps from BioD production
coachgeo3
That strawbale house I was referring to has 12K PV solar installed, and
they pull in on a sunny day ~25Kwh a day, so that's around 750Kwh's a
month on a good month.
James Slayden
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, robert luis rabello wrote:
robert luis rabello wrote:
In the month that
we've
james continues to giggle at Mark's floating BioDiesel situation .
Kinda like sushi boat, biodiesel boat!!
I am truely sorry, just that picture keeps coming up.
BTW, Got the first series of Pics back from the class and they look
good. Now to figure out what the h*ll the picture was about.
I am a woman. Unfortunately for a lot of years in my 20's no one seemed to
believe that (I now have long hair and it's a little more obvious). And
since I do gender-nontraditional work (carpentry and mechanic work) and
have spent way too much time at hardware and auto parts stores in the
Steel is heavy and expensive. We looked into that option too, and
ended up with a wooden roof covered by conventional fiberglass shingles.
The environmental compromises seem endless, unless you have a LOT of money,
or are living in an area without building restrictions. I haven't been
Light rail, modern high speed
inter-urban rail, hybrid buses, etc. need support because their competition
has lured away all their customers over the years through glamorous
salesmanship and appeals to the freedoms of air travel or solo driving.
Not only have these factors contributed to the
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harmon Seaver wrote:
Kris said:
Ater doing a little reading, I must adjust my statement
slightly but, Harmon you are way off base here.
Hardly. It's pretty clear you have no personal knowledge of this
stuff
girl mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am a woman. Unfortunately for a lot of
years in my 20's no one seemed to
believe that (I now have long hair and it's a little more obvious). And
since I do gender-nontraditional work (carpentry and mechanic work) and
have spent way too much time at
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harmon Seaver wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harmon Seaver wrote:
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, venkat gasn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HELLOW MR FRIEND,
Nor did you mention the beefier running train(rods, pistons, crank etc.) I
believe crank angle may be pretty important here too..
Personally i would never consider converting a gas engine to diesel esp if I
was going to increase the compression ratio. Increasing the compression
ration adds alot
I have worked on these engines too. One of their main problems was their
siiliarities to gas engines. Their pistons were kind of lightweight
compared to most diesels youwill find today and their crank angle was very
steep for such a high compression engine. Some people that like to work on
Thanks alot for your info about converting gasoline
engine to diesel engine. As a review; finding a diesel
engine instead of converting is better...
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