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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 20:27
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Cleaning caged poly tanks
Hello All,
A question about the IBC need to clean out ? if its only motor oil
and
less than 5 % why waste the time?
Ken,
If you read my original question you will see the ceramic-filter is not in the
proces of making BioDiesel.
I have seen clear Bio-Diesel from the Acid -Base proces getting cloudy(hazy)
when I mix It with regular Diesel when I want to produce B20 or higher.
When I heat It to approx 40 ¡C
Antarctica is very good for ice-making and ice-bergs have made it as far as
the equator
Z
http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens
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From: Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ice
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Why We Cannot Win
Hi; As a Canadian I have watched the Iraq situation with concern and
apprehension. Like most Canadians I feel strongly connected to
becomes difficult to find a car over 15 yrs old that is still safe to drive
due to massive corrosion of the metal structures, if the auto makers would
build body and frame structures that would survive longer it is a great idea
gt;
gt;Now, if you were to put the 2004 computer controlled
isreal is the ONLY country in the middle east that DOES possess WMD's,
nuclear as well as chem weapons of mass destruction. They have reperetedly
refused the UN inspection passage and thier Dimona nuke plank is leaking
like a sieve.
Afghanistan and Iraq were bombed and invaded and their
So at the end of the day, the choice is yours. If you choose to run BD
in a PD TDI, more power to you. Just be aware that if you have an
injector failure down the road, your dealership *may* blame the BD and
refuse to cover it.
Cheers.
jh
Furthermore, I believe that any commercial
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From: Adefolu Adedeji [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Gen-Set
Hi Steve,
I have a gen set in Nigeria proposed to power a Quarry
plant. What kits do I need to convert it to run on
Biodiesel is for life ? Yup, that one does it for me. It has enough word
play to keep the grey matter going, and it says it all. Make 'em
think,damnit !
Luc
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From: Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:00 AM
Subject:
Dear Al,
Mazda 626's actually came out as diesels for awhile... 86-91 from memory
I think.
As for whacking a diesel engine INTO a car... theres a fair bit of work
involved. On the older engines its not that big of a deal, but on newer cars
its a real pain, not to meantion changing
OK, I am getting old, or stupid or both :) I put about 90 gr of NaOH too much
in my batch of 80 liters when it needed only 400gr I put 490gr due to a math
misnomer.
Anyone know how I can correct this barring having the lobotamy reversed ?
Thanks
Luc
The speaker at the biodiesel lecture at the TX Green Energy Roundup on
Friday said that the new 2005 biodiesel autos (and I think he said VW's)
are coming off the line from the manufacturer with a blended biodiesel
product in their engines. Can't blame a customer for the manufacturer's
choice.
I've used b10, b20, b30, b50,b80 all approximate percentages and with zero
problems in my 96 passat tdi. If you go to www.tdiclub.com you will find
many many tdi owners (older and new vehicles) using b100 for years with no
problems.
Chuck
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True..
It'll never be entirely fair to both parties.
on the Fosters, seriously... we dont drink that stuff here, Crocodile Dundee
was responsible for that.
We drink Carlton Draught, and Victoria Bitter (ask for it by name!)
Michael
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To:
I was in Sydney about a year and a half ago. There was a radio station
with a contest prize of beer for a year. A rival station was making fun
of them, saying, Yeah, they'll probably give you Fosters. It was
obvious that the brand was not highly regarded there.
Brian
True..
It'll never be
One of my bumper sticker ideas:
Jesus was a Liberal Pacifist.
At the rate I'm going, my Beetle (TDI) will soon be covered completely
with stickers. To think, only a week ago, I had never had any bumper
stickers on any car I owned. Just goes to show what living in a country
heading down the
True..
It'll never be entirely fair to both parties.
on the Fosters, seriously... we dont drink that stuff here, Crocodile Dundee
was responsible for that.
We drink Carlton Draught, and Victoria Bitter (ask for it by name!)
Pfff speak for yourself. I like beer so I don't touch
I am using the one stage method and NaOH and . plumb out of luck me
thinks.
I don't know how I got that so screwed up except that I am thinking in terms
of tens these days and themetric system lends itself VERY well to increments
of ten :) and I probably figured 100 liters instead of 80.
If you're only as far as mixing the catalyst with MeOH, then add the
appropriate amount of MeOH to dilute the methoxide to the appropriate
strength.
If you've already added it to the oil, your plumb out of luck. Hope for the
best.
Todd Swearingen
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From: Legal Eagle
I've used b10, b20, b30, b50,b80 all approximate percentages and with zero
problems in my 96 passat tdi. If you go to www.tdiclub.com you will find
many many tdi owners (older and new vehicles) using b100 for years with no
problems.
No one is disputing that pre-2004 TDIs run BD just fine.
Greetings All,
I am preparing to build my first small scale plant and am wondering if
thier are any small scale producers in the twin cites area and north
toward brained/baxter that are using wvo as thier prime supply? I would
like to talk/vist a working system wiether 30 or 300 gallons in size
Yet another example of why a top-down, best technology approach
usually doesn't work and often does more harm than good. See:
http://journeytoforever.org/community.html
Community development:
http://journeytoforever.org/community2.html
Community development - poverty and hunger
The local
OK, I am getting old, or stupid or both :)
Never mind, it appears these young people of today are also not
beyond making a dumb mistake on rare occasions, you can probably
cover up your spiralling decline into addled dotage a little longer.
That's my own plan anyway. :-)
I put about 90
JH,
Since 2004 VW models in Europe are certified by VW for use with RME, the
question should not be about blanket use of biodiesel. Keith once posted
effects of different feed stock on biodiesel and this is maybe a question.
Hakan
At 04:43 AM 9/27/2004, you wrote:
cblumenthal wrote:
I've
cblumenthal wrote:
I've used b10, b20, b30, b50,b80 all approximate percentages and with zero
problems in my 96 passat tdi. If you go to www.tdiclub.com you will find
many many tdi owners (older and new vehicles) using b100 for years with no
problems.
No one is disputing that pre-2004
Please let me contribute to the SVO PDI/TDI discussion (PDI=Pumpe Dse=Unit
Injection)
- Using SVO in TDI«s and PDI«s it not an issue when using proper conversion
technology and proper SVO fuel quality, meeting the limits specified e.g. in
the German RK standard. Proper conversion included
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Keep Older Vehicles on the Road
Check out the age of some of the UPS type delivery
trucks. Washed daily, serviced on schedule and rebuilt
on schedule.
The rebuild industry could do a much better job if
Isn't it jusr a 5% blend of RME (rape methyl ester)?
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards 2002
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL
Don,
On the specs. I have available now (for Lupo 3L) it is 100% RME, but recall
that it is the same for other models. In continental Europe (Germany,
France , Austria, etc.) the common mix at the pump is B20, so B5 does not
make any sense at all. UK is late in implementation and maybe you
Thanks Hakan, have you seen the technology I've been using to make fossil fuel
more energy efficient.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards
I drive an 89 Mazda 626 super charged 2 litre diesel. To put one of these
engines into another 626 petrol car even would be one of the labours of
Hercules, it fills the compartment, also an inter cooler, (why on a
supercharger I do not know, and has a diesel computer box under the dash,
any
Ron, can I ask where this new ethanol plant will be constructed and where you
attended these meetings? Thanks. Jonathan.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Folks,
Corn = Maize
I happened to attend an investor prospectus meeting last night for the
proposed construction of a 50 million gallon (189
Please let me contribute to the SVO PDI/TDI discussion (PDI=Pumpe Dse=Unit
Injection)
- Using SVO in TDI«s and PDI«s it not an issue when using proper conversion
technology and proper SVO fuel quality, meeting the limits specified e.g. in
the German RK standard.
Yes, I'd agree. But the
Don,
On the specs. I have available now (for Lupo 3L) it is 100% RME, but
recall
that it is the same for other models. In continental Europe (Germany,
France , Austria, etc.) the common mix at the pump is B20, so B5 does not
make any sense at all. UK is late in implementation and maybe you
Don,
I cannot remember at the moment, but if you have a link I like to look at it.
Hakan
At 01:14 PM 9/27/2004, you wrote:
Thanks Hakan, have you seen the technology I've been using to make fossil
fuel more energy efficient.
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Ron, can I ask where this new ethanol plant will be constructed and where
you attended these meetings? Thanks. Jonathan.
==
The proposed plant is in Minnesota and the equity fund raising meetings
occur within a hundred miles from the proposed plant
Don,
I suspect that the B2-B5 alternative has nothing really to do with going
biofuel. Logically it only have any meaning for the automotive industry as
a preparation on going ULSD (Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel), where it serves as
an excellent and necessary lubricant. Since the US industry does
I don't know how you're coming up with the guarantee that it will solidify,
especially if it hasn't already.
The time window of these posts is days broader than the time it takes for a
reaction to take place, whether it be transesterification or saponification.
If you really screwed up you'd
Sorry, Hakan. I thought that I had attached it. maybe this did not work thro'
the system so I'll try this direct reply approach. See attachment
Don Johnston
Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council
Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group
Winner ; National
Might as well keep the conversation on list and let everyone benefit. Even
better if you can't find another small producer in your area.
Todd Swearingen
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Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 10:28 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] To
Hallo Brian,
Sunday, 26 September, 2004, 21:19:20, you wrote:
brn One of my bumper sticker ideas:
brn Jesus was a Liberal Pacifist.
Given Christian tradition Jesus is above liberal/conservative
distinctions. He is no respecter of persons and one person is not more
important to Him
I see you still haven't looked at the page I referred to, which you
said needed updating (which it doesn't), so I referred you to it
again
Actually, I have read it and in fact have referred others to it on a
regular basis. I am quite aware that it refers to SVO and not BD.
However, *you*
I thought the PD pressure was more like 30,000 psi, but whatever, it's very
high. Although the PD is new to the USA this year, it is not new to Europe.
Any European users have any experience with BD in the PD?..Ah,
acronyms
Perry Jones
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From: John Hayes
Hakan,
I think it must be as you say. I do not have your range of technical knowledge
on this subject. I tried to 'attach'
a document re my own testing with other partners on a technology which can
treat all fossil fuels to permit them to burn more efficiently. This stuff
really excites me,
Hello All,
This article might shed some light on new cars
comming off the line with a biodiesel blend in the
fuel tanks.
http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,65054,00
.html
Tim
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Sent: Sunday,
Biodiesel is for Life. Best one yet.
Tim
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Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan
Biodiesel is for life ? Yup, that one does it
for me. It has
Gustl,
Thank you for your thoughtful input. As usual, I agree with what you have
to say. I did struggle with whether to use the present or past tense in
the message.
My goal was a message directed at those that call themselves Christian,
but live their lives in a way that conflicts with
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Overdoing the Catalyst
I don't know how you're coming up with the guarantee that it will
solidify, especially if it hasn't already.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Keith Addison
Sent: 27. september 2004 14:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] 2004 VW Jetta TDI
Hello Niels
Please let me contribute to the SVO PDI/TDI discussion (PDI=Pumpe
coincidence sitting by you on the bus at the conference, one of the
highlights in fact for me.
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Subject: [Biofuel] Greenfield MA Recorder article on
Greetings All,
I am preparing to build my first small scale plant and am wondering if
thier are any small scale producers in the twin cites area and north
toward brained/baxter that are using wvo as thier prime supply? I would
like to talk/vist a working system wiether 30 or 300 gallons in
First publicly displayed engine (worlds fair) was peanut oil. there were many
diesel engine prototypes that used a variety of experimental fuels.
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From Wikipedia: I have found it quite informative, and in confirmation of most
of what I have read at JtF. Rudolf ran
Some years ago BOSCH Denmark sent out a letter and a poster to the BOSCH
workshops, warning against all kinds of Alternative fuel(=
non-fossil-fuels), including RME and FAME, which was specifically mentioned.
They refused to cover any damages coursed by non-appropriate fuels, and
forwarded the
One does not need a buidling to live the precepts of Christ, and in fact
there are many more Christians outside of church buildings than there are
inside them.
The blatant hypocricy of the so-called christians in their moral and
fianacial support for perpetual wars waged on lies and fabrications
Steve Spence wrote:
At $10 / GGE equivalent, I just bet buyers will be lining up to get their
fill ...
Did you see that in the articles
anyway that's one way of thinking about it
another is a comparison of today's SUV using
gasoline @ $2 US gallon to a ultralight SUV
given your
preposterous. Much like a misguided concern about global exhaustion of
atmospheric oxygen from burning fossil fuels. So I would very much like
to see a reference to either the low oxygen concentrations in big cities
and or the connection between low oxygenation and cancer.
Kirk
It's my belief that Cd 0.26, 0-60 mph in 8.2 s, 114 mpg-equivalent with fuel
cell). is unmitigated bull fertilizer. I would really like to see their
calculations proving that 114 mpg-equivalent .
It would be fun to compare a 50 mpg biofueled (at $3 / GGE) vw jetta diesel
with a hydrogen
I wasn't being at all combative, but it seems you are.
snip
Hm. I see these excuses so often, I'm not convinced. Scientists are
prejudiced against SVO for some reason, the press has an
anti-environment agenda and so on. Yes, I know you didn't say that,
but others do. And they're
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Keith Addison wrote:
I see you still haven't looked at the page I referred to, which you
said needed updating (which it doesn't), so I referred you to it
again
Actually, I have read it and in fact have referred others to it on a
regular basis. I am quite aware that it refers to SVO and not
Not in the Twin Cities, I'm in a similar boat here in Madison. It seems
as if the once-active Madison Biodiesel Co-op is pretty much defunct.
I'm wrestling with not only equipment, but a good source for methanol
and potassium hydroxide (in smallish quantities).
I'm considering traveling to
simply perfectly correct -- JRD
We're Not in Lake Wobegon Anymore
By Garrison Keillor
Something has gone seriously haywire with the Republican Party. Once,
it was the party of pragmatic Main Street businessmen in steel-rimmed
spectacles who decried profligacy and waste, were
Howdy Peggy,
Firstly, I would like to say that I didn't mean to be offensive about
regional differences in cost accounting. I should give notice when I make
a 'friendly' facetious remark. In fact, when I was a teenager many years
ago, I hung around at the local train depot where an elderly
I may still have a manual (I will look). The maintenance is no big issue,
the Diesel injector maintenance shop had no problems maintaining the pump
injectors. The main 'problem' I had was with the timing belt light: I was
never able to figure out how to reset it after the belt was changed.
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