These people use the same arguments that set us up in Canada and Australia
and god knows where else for the woodchippers. That these little spindly,
generally rewgrowth trees are useless, and here is a heaven sent opportunity
to get them out of the way.
Well the problem is that they are spindly
Hey folks,
Does anyone know the catalyst requirement for store-bought flaxseed oil?
Based upon it's higher-than-canola IV, would it require more than store
bought canola?
Thanks,
Joey
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I wonder why nobody talks about that 9/11 hapened at GWB's wach !!!
Fritz
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry
Well it was the adults who elected gwb in 2000.
It seems that it couldn't be any more violent than a drill and paint
stirrer, and THAT I have done with good success.
Washing it the same way also proved a good method.
Once processed, test it using the quality test;
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality and if you habe
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 13:07
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency was Flying the Dirty Skies
Greg,
I haven't driven across the entire country so I will only speak for the
miles I have
If you don't mind, I would like to see comparative mpg numbers, of the
various trips.
It would be interesting, to see where -vs.- mpg, for your vehicle.
Greg H.
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This has probably been done but could I have some opinions on it please.
What I have been doing is after a violent mix + 1 hours gentle mixing
then I spray a fine film of water onto the top of the mixture while
keeping the temperature up at 50oC.
The water falls though and collects the
That's because the fire codes stop at Class IIIb. There are no fire codes on
class IIIc, but look at the definitions. It is not rated as a combustible
liquid, let alone a flammable liquid. Its not fire code regulated.
Even if one wanted to regulate to the far more restrictive IIb, those are
I just gotta tell my story: Bob and I saved for ten years, finally we had
$18,000 in the savings collecting miniscule interest. An advisor put us on
to a great annuity, paying 7% 1st year, 6% 2nd year and 5% the third year
but after that the interest performance was just like the bank. We
have sworn fealty to Israel instead of thier own people.
The good of the one is not necessarily to the benefit of the other, unless
we are looking at ONLY the political agendas.
What a friend the US has in Israel; they bombed the USS Liberty knowing full
well it was an American ship and killed
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I wonder why nobody talks about that 9/11 hapened at GWB's wach !!!
Fritz
Maybe because it was planned,
Intelligence cutbacks to virtually nonexistant?
I guess that also explains why all the WMDs turned out to be
non-existant..., because the darned good intelligence that George W. Bush
said he gets, was actually virtually nonexistant (according to Greg
Harbican) because funding for intel had
I have sat by and watched these tirades on the Biodiesel list for sometime.
It still eludes me what this has to due with Biodiesel.My father worked for
Texaco as a simple refinery worker. This is why I joined this list.I think
motor fuel production could be in hands of the little guy. I would
Thank you for your kind words, Keith. That is exactly what I was talking about.
Disagree with your politics, and you attack the person. enough vitriole, I'm
out of here.
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Actually there were real live WMD's in Iraq right after trhe invasion.
However the problem was it was the spooks that were trying to bring 'em in
and they got friendly fired all to bits. Somebody forgot to tell the gunners
they were the good guys, and you know those gunners, just itchin' to
There are more than two spokes to a wheel.
Biofuel is no more the be all and end all to life's persistant problems than
government is.
If you want to better illuminate something, burn the candle from both ends.
Todd Swearingen
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Would you be so kind as to stop laying all the conspiracy theories on as
thick as plum jam?
I for one am perfectly familiar with the grand depths of deceipt,
malfeasance and marauding the human animal is capable of. And I have
virtually no doubt that there is far more to what has occurred
had nothing to do with them. Take it or leave it, like everything else. That
is what the delete button is for.A little touchy aren't we?
So sorry. I shall refrain from injuring any further.
Luc
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this. Israelis that. Clandestine midnight rendevous something else.
I think that at this moment in time a lot of people are desperately in need
of some breathing room, if just occassionally and but for a moment.
Todd Swearingen
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I'm no fan of Bill Clinton and he his administration was dealing with the
Taliban terrorists on that darn pipeline for a time, they did wake up and
saw the folly and ceased dealing with them, to have Bush renew the
negotiations. Clinton era intelligence was what used to set up conditions
so they
Actualy, I could understand it if Bush honestly thought there were WMDs, if
he was using old data from the Clinton admin., that wasn't gone through
before, mixed with new data.
And let's get it correct, I said human gathered intelligence was cut back
to the point that it was virtually
Hi,
I'm having difficulty finding information that details what countries
have capitalist, communist or socialist economies, can anyone help? Lately
I have been reading many proclamations that most of the world is socialist.
Whenever they write or speak further it becomes evident they are
Thank you for your kind words, Keith. That is exactly what I was
talking about. Disagree with your politics, and you attack the
person.
No. It's just a description of what you did. But, as we've often seen
here before, and indeed with you previously, it's not unusual for
people who make
what kind of a methanol recovery rate can I expect once I start doing that?
Depends which stage you do it at, and what you want to do with the
by-product. Easiest is taking back the methanol straight after
processing, before separating the by-product, but this is inclined to
cause a
This has probably been done but could I have some opinions on it please.
What I have been doing is after a violent mix + 1 hours gentle
mixing then I spray a fine film of water onto the top of the mixture
while keeping the temperature up at 50oC.
The water falls though and collects the
Hey folks,
Does anyone know the catalyst requirement for store-bought flaxseed oil?
Based upon it's higher-than-canola IV, would it require more than store
bought canola?
Probably not, the methanol requirement is about the same. See:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html
How
Hi Walt ;
Thanks very much for your post. Your project and web
site are fascinating. I have a project which hasn't
taken form yet, but I hope it will be something like
Windward. Only in a lot warmer climate (and quite
regrettably for an expat like myself, outside the US).
Possibly I wil buy
Consumption of Resources Outstripping Planet's Ability to Cope
by Jonathan Fowler
October 21, 2004 by the Associated Press
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1021-02.htm
GENEVA - People are plundering the world's resources at a
pace that outstrips the planet's
Australia govt adamant it will not approve Kyoto
By Michelle Nichols
Source: Reuters
22 Oct 2004
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SYD74748.htm
CANBERRA, Oct 22 (Reuters) - As Russia prepares to vote to ratify
the Kyoto protocol and allow the global climate change pact to come
I can understand and support the position of Australia on Kyoto, but it is
probably one of a handful of countries were I can do that. They will do
their utmost to reduce greenhouse gases, but will not commit to Kyoto.
Australia is often and especially by the Americans, as a nation that is
them to get a break on the shipping. I did notice that the delivery is to
a local warehouse/delivery dock, so how do you get the darn thing installed
at home? 2000 pounds is a little heavy to move around.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 12:54 PM 10/21/2004, you wrote:
Pocatello Idaho
= = =
At 11:31 PM 20/10/2004 +1000, you wrote:
Hi,
Just wondering..
Megan
SE Gippsland, Victoria
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Hello All,
Thanks Keith, Dale, Todd, Luc for your
responses. Searching the archives is a lot easier
when you know the correct search word. Super critical
methanol is a bit over the horizon for me. I guess my
question was more along the lines of : Does anyone
have any experience at 80 -150
consumption and carbon emissions are second only to the US on a per
capita basis.
Australia
Population: 19.2 million (0.32% of world total)
Per Capita Gross Domestic Product (GDP): $19,796
Total Energy Consumption: 4.7 quadrillion Btu (1.2% of world total)
Per Capita Energy Consumption:
Thanks Doug.
I know of no country in modern civilization that has successfully changed to
(Lenin and Trotsky's view of) socialism. The reason why is a whole other
discussion. However, you could find some good examples in early 20th century
Detroit Michigan.
I'd only like to add that from
Hello Peter,
A few additional comments in the benefits of fuel ethanol over methanol
follow. A complete distillery setup can lower electric bills due to the
surplus generation capability from burning the unreacted biomass while
producing ethanol and other products to sell (xylitol, furfural,
LAX now has an Hydrogen Station! Im sure some one will have comments
Best regards,
Jonathan
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Steve,
Having differing opinions and opposing views are
vital to problem identification. A group of
people all in agreement with one another will
hardly identify new ways, or better approaches to
any endeavor because even if that group does not
develop the dangerous mind set of we've always
done
Keith,
That is true, but as I understand the official commitment and position from
Australia, they would sign a Kyoto based on per capita. If their official
promises and promises are worth anything, they will meet Kyoto on a per
capita basis and probably on total as well. It is by the way
Thank you Abraham,
Acceptance of the best of each religious doctrine promotes peace.
Looking for the bad in each philosophy promotes disharmony that erupts
in problems. When I collect my garden vegetables I consider paring
those blemishes that will not suit my personal palate and enjoy really
:
: There is only one reason I will vote for Bush, extra money in my pocket.
That's the reason that people vote for Bush, and no other. The problem is
that this is a flase belief. Real wages have gone down since Bush took
office, and jobs have been lost. If you earn over $200,000 per year,
:-)
That's what is worrisome every time such broad assertions are made. Perhaps
you and everyone else can see why even the presentation of the shoddiest
shred of fabric supporting such pandemonial beliefs lends well to getting to
the truth of those matters that we all cling to in one way or
Hi George,
How is it that both state forestry people and federal forestry people
have a different view? It has been repeated again and again within the
areas that suffer the most forest fires, that maintenance programs
similar to other parts of the world could greatly reduce the effects and
Abraham,
As you describe it, you are very representative for my Jewish friends and
others that I met. I am always trying to keep a difference between Israel
government policies and Jews, as I try to keep a difference between US
administration and Americans. Maybe I am not successful in
Hakan Falk wrote:
Keith,
snip. If you
could look at your source the area in km2 and population per km2, would be
interesting numbers also.
Hi, CIA publishes a handy book, called world factbook,
where You can find all sorts of
I've read thru the links provided but all data stops at 65
degrees. Mr. Allen's processor was made deep to be
able to maximize processing temperature. And also,
what are the factors and variables which would allow
minimum (or no) washing (aside from the obvious like
correct methanol, catalyst,
Michael Redler wrote:
snip
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
-- Karl Marx
Hi, this slogan above ^ is one of the ugliest slogans in the world
The immediate question, which leaves this slogan crashing and burning, is:
WHO gets to decide what each
We both know that no administration has ever cut back human gathered
intelligence to the point of being virtually nonexistant as you would
like to believe or have others believe of any particular admin.
And let's also take note that the darned good intelligence that Mr. Bush
claimed to be
Tom,
It certainly would be if you only looked at the semantics and not the spirit of
the statement.
Mike
Tomas Juknevicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Redler wrote:
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
-- Karl Marx
Hi, this slogan above ^ is
I know that I saw a post from Greg on this thread earlier, but now I can't
find it. I'll do my best to compile the data on my trips on Sunday, when
I have some free time. It will be interesting to see whether there is a
substantial change in mileage in the mountains compared to flatland. I
Keith,
That is true, but as I understand the official commitment and
position from Australia, they would sign a Kyoto based on per
capita. If their official promises and promises are worth anything,
they will meet Kyoto on a per capita basis and probably on total as
well.
Well, we'll
Mississippi here...have been interested in biodiesel for a while, but only
test batches performed...lack the resources (space) for a larger scale, but
definitely interested
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My 2002 VW TDI Golf gets at least 50 mpg, I also record every fillup and
drive all hills all the time mostly back roads and gravel. with 63,000
miles and loving it
I rarely get to take it on long trips ,but i also haul 300 lbs of cow feed
in it at least once a week on my way home ,it is
Russian Parliament Ratifies Kyoto Protocol
MosNews
22 Oct 2004 18:39 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 18:40 MSK
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/10/22/kyotoratified.shtml
Russiaâs lower house of parliament,
the State Duma ratified the Kyoto Protocol on Friday.
The bill was passed by 334 votes
Tundra test stuns scientists
Carbon dioxide could be dumped into atmosphere
Raises spectre of accelerated global warming
PETER CALAMAI SCIENCE REPORTER
Sep. 23, 2004
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1095891011063
I've read thru the links provided but all data stops at 65
degrees. Mr. Allen's processor was made deep to be
able to maximize processing temperature. And also,
what are the factors and variables which would allow
minimum (or no) washing (aside from the obvious like
correct methanol,
Thanks Tomas,
Australia
7,686,850 sq km
population 19,913,144
2.59 persons per sq km
USA
9,631,418 sq km
population 293,027,571
30.42 persons per sq km
Hakan
At 03:05 PM 10/22/2004, you wrote:
Autralia is the world's largest coal exporter. Also, their energy
consumption and carbon
Todd,
I think that for the most part, it is just going to be a matter of agreeing
to disagree about Politics and those that make a living from it.
OTOH, I think that for the most part, we do agree for the most that
something needs to be done about world energy practice, although, I believe
that
Hallo Greg,
Thursday, 21 October, 2004, 20:10:26, you wrote:
I spent 8 years in the military. I was a spook and worked
at an NSA/NSG (No Such Agency/Naval Security Group) command in the
operations section. I am still in daily contact with many former,
retired and current
H,
I am not sure what is the difference between the semantics ( meaning, essence)
of the statement and the spirit of the statement. Could you elaborate a bit
here?
In my humble opinion, this statement only sounds nicely, making it a good
slogan,
but it is empty/broken in essence ...
In an open reactor it will. Actually it starts vaporising at much
lower temperatures than that. But Peter is talking about pressurising
the process, obviously in a closed reactor. Prof. Allen's processor
is here:
The 'Deepthort 100B' Batch Reactor
Liberal or Conservative? I have not owned a television for over
thirty-five years. And I am both liberal and conservative not claiming
a political affiliation other than abhorring policies that preach
entitlement or lack of responsibility for personal action. Each of our
two children (now
whole America, love it or leave it thing. our country was founded on
dissent and political discourse. the thing that makes this country great
is that all opinions are welcomed, without them we have Nazi Germany. or
America during the red scare... or America during the terrorist scare.
I
Tom,
From Websters dictionary -
semantics: The study of meanings
spirit: Temper or disposition of mind
For example, H doesn't carry as much specific meaning as it does an
expression of sarcasm.
If this doesn't clear things up, well, I think I'd like to change the subject
because
Peggy,
One of the problems of replanting is the fact that you end up bypassing
natural succession of plants and animals in a re-growth area.
Normally after a fire or clearing of trees ( preferable a low level fire
that does not bake/sterilize the soil because the nutrients are then
recycled )
Thanks.
BTW, I'm planning on modifying my diesel, and plan to see an increase in
mileage and HP when done ( even here in the mountains )
Greg H.
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Gustl,
Very good and the system is not particular for US, it is the same all over
the world. Look what happened in UK and the suicide, for sure a direct
result of this. A very good analysis anyway and explains why many feel so
strong about what happens. The obvious reason for this and for
Peggy,
This is why we have such good debates in this group, we are all involved
with ready for use agendas and do fight for peaceful solutions. Almost
all discussions in the group are colored by the knowledge that the group
represent an important part of the ready for use solutions. The
Hi Ken;
I'm just finishing my first 150 l. batch of biodiesel. I seem to remeber
someone saying the newer VW TDI's didn't like the biodiesel very much.
Have you experienced any problems other than having to change filters? I've
got an older ford diesel (95) I plan to run on the biodiesel,
Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo Greg,
Thursday, 21 October, 2004, 20:10:26, you wrote:
I spent 8 years in the military. I was a spook and worked
at an NSA/NSG (No Such Agency/Naval Security Group) command in the
operations section. I am still in daily contact with many
bottom, a thick white layer in the middle and a milky yellow layer on
the top.
interestingly my siphoned off biodiesel separated again over the
following night into a perfectly clear yellow layer on the bottom and a
milky yellow layer on the top.
I have posted some images here:
route.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html This can be done on
your balcony if that is all you have. grabted 5 gal is not very nmuch
however the unit can be sidelined and used as recovery still later should
you want to go larger still.
Stay with the Methoxide the Easy Way
served me was to confirm stuff I had picked up along the way.
Just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean that they are not after you
:)
Luc
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A dutch web site ,the name under the firest picture (top one of 3)
says raw biodiesel ??? looks more like dino to me...
part of the text
Het maken van biodiesel is geen koud kunstje. Vaste biomassa wordt bij hoge
temperaturen (~ 500 oC) en in afwezigheid van zuurstof omgezet tot een gas
John, I am a novice at this too so others should feel free to criticize my
remarks.
I would suggest you titrate. This is not so easy at this stage because any
free fatty acids in your fuel as you went into the base process are now
soap, that is they are neutralized with Na.To
In an open reactor it will. Actually it starts vaporising at much
lower temperatures than that. But Peter is talking about pressurising
the process, obviously in a closed reactor. Prof. Allen's processor
is here:
The 'Deepthort 100B' Batch Reactor
pump they switched to. If memory serves correctly the preceeding years were
just fine.
I have a 1983 240D Mercedes that is presently getting the screen filter
(sediment filter) in the tank changed as well as the fuel lines.
The absolute necessity of the change of fuel lines might be up for
downsized version ? You got a Winzip? I could fire them off in a matter of
minutes if you like. Let me know
Luc
PS: Congrats on getting started on your way to making good quality BD.
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before each go of it. Once you have your catalyst amount determined re-do
the titration to be sure you got it right the first time and use the Better
Titration method.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#bettertitrate
I have found that a VERY good electronic PH meter and scale
the absence of oxygen. Another term for the same process is
distructive distillation. It produces a mixture somewhat like crude oil
(fossil) The trick is to do it effeciently. See for example
http://www.btgworld.com/technologies/pyrolysis.html
frag lag wrote:
Hi,
Kim; the task is not and doesn't have to be as, daunting as it sounds.
A single axle trailer could be used to transport it from the dock to your
home but, using a tandem axle trailer may feel more comfortable on the road,
if you have drive a long distance or will encounter a lot of
Hi Kim, sorry for the delay in responding.
Hi Darryl, please see inserted answers.
At 09:26 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote:
Hi Kim,
an ambitious project for most people, however, I suspect you are up to it.
Thanks for the vote of confidence
Are your telephone lines strung on the same
Steve, I would like to hear what you think of the electric chain saw and log
splitter when your evaluation is done.
I have an old 14-inch, 110-volt AC chain saw. It doesn't get much work, but
I'm
always pleased with it when I do use it. Not for professional lumberjacks, but
quite adequate
of the unit be less than the prescribed space for that weight category the
highest rate will apply.
A truck's trailer can only handle so much weight and so it is configured so
that either the weight or the space or both are calculated in the shipping
rate.
At 2,000 lbs it should not be much
Hallo Jonathan,
Friday, 22 October, 2004, 13:11:27, you wrote:
JS Gustl, can I ask you what the definition of the term spook you
JS are referring to? Just curious. Thanks. Jonathan.
JS Happy Happy,
JS Gustl
In the military personnel working in intel units are referred to as
spooks. I
Hi Kim, sorry for the delay in responding.
Hi Darryl, please see inserted answers.
Just curious about the sprinkler. Is the water collected via gutters and
re-used,
or drained away after cooling the roof?
Actually we now have it set so that there is almost no water left to drip
off the
I have a 4' x 8' trailer that I can pick it up with, and it does tilt, but
the wheels are a great idea. I will pick up 4 heavy duty casters next time
I am at Harbor Freight, then that problem is solved. And yes, my trailer
will carry the weight, it is no longer 'factory standard'.
Bright
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