[Biofuel] smart car

[MH]

 Mitsubishi to Supply 700cc Engine for DaimlerChrysler's smart car
 17 October 2005
 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/mitsubishi_to_s.html

 Mitsubishi Motors will begin supplying fuel-efficient 700cc gasoline engines
 to DaimlerChrysler AG for use in the smart car starting as early as 2006,
 the Nihon Keizai Shimbun reported.

 The engine is a slightly enlarged version of the 660cc MIVEC engine
 Mitsubishi will use in its i minicar. (Earlier post.) Mitsubishi Motors
 is expected to supply an annual 80,000 to 100,000 engines to DaimlerChrysler. 

 In addition using an aluminum block and resin components to reduce weight,
 the engine uses variable valve timing and 4-valve direct-drive valvetrain
 to deliver more power and better fuel economy. 

 The new 3-cylinder, 660cc turbocharged engine delivers 47kW (63 hp) of power
 and is expected to improve fuel economy by 15% over the current mini-car units.
 No word yet on the specifications of the 700cc version. 

 DaimlerChrysler reportedly plans to use the engines for its next-generation
 Smart Fortwo vehicles. Automakers are scrambling to roll out fuel-efficient
 compact cars for the European market in preparation for stricter
 carbon dioxide emissions regulations taking effect there in 2008.
 To address this, DaimlerChrysler is working on developing a new model
 at low cost that meets these standards.

 Mitsubishi Motors will begin producing the engine at its Mizushima facility
 at the end of this year. The Japanese automaker plans to increase output
 capacity at the plant to address the increase in engine production, and
 expects to reduce per-unit costs as a result of economies of scale.
 --- 

 Smart fortwo crash-test results 
 by Jim Kerr 
 September 8, 2004 
 http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/040908.htm 
 --- 

 DaimlerChrysler smart (smart K)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DaimlerChrysler_smart 
 --- 

 2006 smart crosstown Concept
 October 11, 2005
 by Justin Couture / American Auto Press
 
http://carreviewsonline.auto123.com/en/info/prototype/view.spy?artid=50459&make=smart

 Inspired by the Jeep Wrangler or Mini Moke? In the days leading up to the
 IAA, the air in Frankfurt (and the automotive community) was electric, as
 usual. It was crunch time for manufacturers, as they were on a mad race to put
 the finishing touches on secretive vehicles that were to be released at the 
very
 last second.  One such vehicle that typifies short-lead development is smarts
 crosstown (lower case intentional), a new concept car that takes urban
 automotive fashion trends down to a diminutive level for a totally unique kind 
of
 inner-city transportation. Life for this particular concept started out in a
 creative workshop where smarts designers were asked to conceptualize what
 the successor of the firms original fortwo city car might look like. Working up
 from ideas to blueprints, and then quarter scale clay models before crafting a
 fully operational example, the crosstown gained many new and unique features.
 It was decided by officials that smart would use this fortwo experiment as a
 show car, and work began on the full-size version earlier this year. The
 crosstown, like most other smarts is a tiny vehicle, working to further the
 reputation of the company as a leader in micro cars. At 105.5 inches in length,
 with a 74.8 inch long wheelbase and equal width and height of 62.2 inches, the
 crosstown is perfect for traffic-logged city centers. By comparison, its only
 slightly larger than the fortwo, which is 98.4 inches long, with a wheelbase of
 71.3 inches, a width of 59.4 inches and a height of 61.0 inches. Miniscule
 overhangs of 15.7 inches up front and 15.4 inches in back would make the
 crosstown an easy vehicle to park. After canning the forfour-based formore, it
 seems likely that smart stylists still had a little bit of SUV-blood left over 
from
 the project still pumping through their veins. And while the crosstown has a 
low
 ride height and road tires, it embodies the look and feel of the popular and
 somewhat nostalgic Jeep Wrangler. Or maybe the tiny Mini Moke? From nose
 to tail the borrowed ideas are countless, like the flat-surfaced hood, round
 headlamps, retractable windshield and exterior-hinged doors (OK, the Mini
 Moke didnt have doors but the Jeep does). Theres even a convertible roof,
 though the crosstowns fabric cloth roof is electrically retractable. But dont
 let this boxy baby fool you. Unlike the prehistoric Wrangler, the smart is a
 thoroughly modern and technologically advanced vehicle. As with all other 
smarts, the
 crosstown features the very smart Tridion safety cell system which mates a
 high-tensile steel structure to lightweight polymer panels, resistant to
 accidents as well as dings and scratches - both commonplace in the city.
 The result is a small car with the passive safety of a big car, plus the
 unique opportunity for owners to customizing their vehicles by replacing
 the polymer panels. And while s

Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[MH]

> Window quilts, why not?  Only at night, though, right?  Otherwise, always
> wear a miner's helmet with the light on the forehead.

 I like window quilts but I'll stick to the
 foam panels (R10) I've used for the
 past several years.  I remove the
 sun facing ones during the day if
 someones home. 

 Put some wood in the stove a couple times
 this heating season but we've had some
 above average temperatures the past couple
 of months and I still need to cut and
 stack more wood before the snows fly thou
 its been drying for the past couple of years.

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[Biofuel] AU Car makers approve ethanol blend fuel

[MH]

 Car makers approve ethanol blend fuel
 October 19, 2005 
 Australian Broadcasting Corporation 
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1485570.htm 

 In a breakthrough for the ethanol industry, Australia's four car makers have
 reached agreement to label all cars made in Australia as E10 compatible
 from the start of next year.

 The labels will signal that the cars are compatible with fuel that contains
 up to 10 per cent ethanol.

 The decision ends concerns that using an ethanol blend could
 damage engines and potentially void new car warranties.

 The situation for imported cars is less clear.

 The decision by Holden, Mitsubishi, Ford and Toyota follows
 intensive discussions between the car makers and
 the federal Industry Minister, Ian Macfarlane.

 Mitsubishi Motors Australia spokesman Kevin Taylor says
 the company's Adelaide-made and imported cars have been
 E10 compatible since the mid-1990s.

 "We will have no difficulty in labelling cars as requested by
 the Government from early in the new year," he said.

 The South Australian motoring body, the RAA [Royal Automobile Associaiton],
 says the decision is good news for motorists' hip pockets.

 RAA senior analyst Hamilton Calder says the ethanol component
 does not attract the federal excise.

 "Ethanol blended petrol is actually four cents a litre cheaper than
 standard unleaded petrol," he said.

 Mr Calder says most vehicles post 1986 will be able to use the
 cheaper ethanol blend, as it becomes available.

 But Canegrowers president Alf Cristaudo says there is still a
 long way to go to before ethanol use is commonplace.

 "It'll certainly help in the debate once you've got the car
 manufacturers making statements like that - that their
 vehicles won't fall apart and their vehicles won't be
 damaged by the use of ethanol," he said.

 "It'll certainly be a positive factor."

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[Biofuel] Malaysia To Make Biofuel Mandatory By 2008

[Olivier Morf]

Malaysia To Make Biofuel Mandatory By 2008

Source: Reuters, Kuala Lumpur, 7 October 2005

Malaysia, the world's top palm oil producer, will make a palm
oil-based fuel a mandatory additive at petrol pumps by 2008, a
newspaper said on Thursday, part of government efforts to cut its
diesel subsidy bill.

With crude oil prices expected to remain high, Malaysia is seeking to
encourage national use of a biofuel that is made from 95 per cent
diesel and 5 per cent processed palm oil.

Legislators are expected to pass a law next year to introduce the new
product, and give motorists a year to try it out before making it
mandatory, Plantation Industries and Commodities Minister Peter Chin
told The Star. "We will enforce it and make everyone comply," the
minister was quoted as saying."There will no longer be unadulterated
diesel on sale," he said, referring to the planned switch of diesel to
the new blend. The head of the government-run Malaysian Palm Oil Board
told Reuters last month that biofuel would be ready at domestic pumps
and for export by October 2006.

Biofuels are taking on new importance worldwide as the cost of
petroleum products rise and as countries seek to cut emissions to meet
the UN Kyoto Protocol. Burning the biofuel is considered to be carbon-
dioxide neutral and does not require emissions rights.

Malaysia, a net exporter of oil and gas, heavily subsidies pump prices
of petrol and diesel, putting a serious strain on its budget as the
cost of fossil fuels has surged. The government estimates that it will
spend 16 billion ringgit ($4.2 billion) on fuel subsidies in 2005, a
34 per cent jump from last year.

Malaysia consumes up to 190,000 barrels per day (bpd) of diesel and
gas oil. It produces less than 14 million tonnes of palm oil a year,
of which more than 12 million are exported. Adding 5 per cent biofuel
to diesel at pumps will help cut 500,000 tonnes of diesel a year, or
about 10,000 bpd, officials have said.

Source: Reuters, Kuala Lumpur, 7 October 2005


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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[robert luis rabello]

Terry Dyck wrote:

> What the real problem is:  the tar sands requires the burning of a lot of 
> fossil fuels just to get the rock solid material into a usuable form (liquid 
> form).  This is before it goes to the refinery.  Green House gases are being 
> produced before we ever burn the gasoline in our vehicles.

Yet this resource is being touted as North America's "solution" to 
the energy problem, along with "abiotic oil".  I had an "interesting" 
conversation with a couple from Seattle who visited us over the recent 
Thanksgiving weekend.  They blame "environmentalists" for our energy 
problems.  Go figure!


robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[Terry Dyck]

What the real problem is:  the tar sands requires the burning of a lot of 
fossil fuels just to get the rock solid material into a usuable form (liquid 
form).  This is before it goes to the refinery.  Green House gases are being 
produced before we ever burn the gasoline in our vehicles.

Terry


>From: robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:43:58 -0700
>
>Terry Dyck wrote:
>
> > Terasen was bought by a Texas company.  My speculation is that having
> > control of Natural Gas gives control of the Alberta tar sands oil
> > production.  It takes almost as much Natural Gas to melt the tar sands 
>oil
> > rock, to make it a liquid, as they get back in oil.
> >
> > Terry Dyck
>
>   I had a discussion about this topic with a former client who designs
>tar sands processing facilities.  He told me that a lot of work has
>been done in utilizing the "leftover" bitumen as an energy source to
>drive oil out of the tar sands and suggested that the process results
>in a net energy gain.  I didn't really follow what he was saying, as
>I'm not that familiar with the process.
>
>   As for Terasen, it doesn't matter much to me whether the company is
>owned and operated from Texas or B.C.  They are interested in making a
>profit, hence the rate hike.  That would have happened no matter who
>owned the company.  Perhaps you're right about the tar sands.  I would
>really like to get OUT of buying natural gas to heat my home.
>
>robert luis rabello
>"The Edge of Justice"
>Adventure for Your Mind
>http://www.newadventure.ca
>
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>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Lye -> Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions

[michael skinner]

wow

3.5 g/liter is 0.0035kg/liter

0.35kg is 350 grams

Original Message Follows
From: Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lye -> Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:48:15 -0400



Hunter McCormack wrote:

 > I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric
 > to imperial and I have stumped myself in the process.
 >
 > I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of
 > the virgin vegetable oil weight.  It's given that this is
 > approximately 3.5 grams/liter.  This implies that the vegetable oil
 > weighs .35 kg/liter.

I measured the specific gravity of my WVO which is canola oil and it
came in at 0.92. Just as a sanity check on my hydrometer ( why do I
never never trust anything??) I measured out 20 liters of WVO by volume
and weighed it on a surplus triple beam balance that I picked up (20 kg
capacity for a song -what a deal).  By this method I calculated 0.915
SG.  BTW I got the same SG (0.92 with hydrometer) for brand new canola
as well.

regards
Joe


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[Biofuel] Pelly's "Model A"

[Juan B]

Hello everyone,

I have been looking to all the reactors and model that exists in the JFC website. 

I finally manage to get  high quality BD. So the next step is to
make BD in  big quantities.  I have a farm that uses about
5000 Gallons of petro diesel a week so  I want to change that. I
want to build something like the Pelly's
"Model A". But I did not find that much info in the website. I would
like to know whether someone has built something that big . how
difficult it is and how much would cost? 

thanks 
Juan 
On 10/18/05, Paul S Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
www.onlineconversion.com  is very helpful!

What kind of oil?  
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html

Where does the 1% come from? 
Are you confusing the amounts of lye with titration?
NaOH for virgin oil is 3.5 grams/liter
0.1% w/v lye solution

About Lye:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye
On 10/18/05, Hunter McCormack <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric toimperial and I have stumped myself in the process.I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of thevirgin vegetable oil weight.  It's given that this is approximately 
3.5grams/liter.  This implies that the vegetable oil weighs .35 kg/liter.There are 3.8 liters/gallon.  This means that the oil would weigh 1.3kg/gallon or 2.9 lbs/gallon.  This is contradictory to the weight

measurements that I have found for virgin vegetable oil that state there areapproximately 7.4 lbs/gallon.  What am I missing in this unit conversion?Hunter_
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Re: [Biofuel] best oil to make BD

[Mike Weaver]

Free is the best oil to use ;-)

Juan B wrote:
Hello Everyone, 
  
I Would like to know what is the best vegetable oil that can be use to
get the most biodiesel ? or it would be better to get animal fat?
  
I looked at the tables in the website but I did not completely
understand . 
thanks
Juan
  

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Re: [Biofuel] Piedmont Biofuels

[Mike Weaver]

I had a good time in Pittsboro!

Lyle Estill wrote:
We need to add a line to our website which says, "Be
Careful What You Wish For."
  
  
  
  
  On Oct 18, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Ramon wrote:
  
  
Hi Guys


Check out this web site - this is
something like what I'd like to set
up in the Philippines - a coop of course.


Best regards,
Mon
---
http://www.biofuels.coop/coop.shtml
--
Piedmont Biofuels


CO-OP


Piedmont Biofuels is a worker and member
owned cooperative. Our
mission is to lead the grassroots
sustainability movement in North
Carolina by using and encouraging the use
of clean, renewable
biofuels.


We are involved in a wide variety of
undertakings in support of this mission:


We provide pure biodiesel (B100) to the
community.
We provide a space where worker members
can make their own fuel from
waste vegetable oil.
We have a USDA Research Farm where we do
oilseed crop research.
We have an elaborate glycerin composting
facility.
We do education and outreach on both
biodiesel and engine
modifications that enable people to use
straight vegetable oil (SVO)
as fuel.
We lobby the North Carolina legislature,
as well as our national
representatives, on behalf of biodiesel
and alternative fuels.
We have an intern program that allows
people to live on site and learn
about all facets of our operations.






Becoming a Member


Becoming a member-owner of the coop
entitles you to buy biodiesel from
the coop or learn how to make your own
using our equipment. Signing up
is easy. Just read the membership
agreement and drop off or mail us a
signed copy along with your check for
$50. We also accept credit card
payments over the phone or via the web.


Web
    Mail
PO Box 661
Pittsboro, NC 27312  Phone
(919) 321-8260


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  Lyle Estill
  Piedmont Biofuels
  www.biofuels.coop
  919-321-8260
  Fax: 919-321-6769
  
   
  
  
  

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[Biofuel] Piedmont Biofuels

[Lyle Estill]

We need to add a line to our website which says, "Be Careful What You Wish For."On Oct 18, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Ramon wrote:Hi GuysCheck out this web site - this is something like what I'd like to setup in the Philippines - a coop of course.Best regards,Mon---http://www.biofuels.coop/coop.shtml--Piedmont BiofuelsCO-OPPiedmont Biofuels is a worker and member owned cooperative. Ourmission is to lead the grassroots sustainability movement in NorthCarolina by using and encouraging the use of clean, renewablebiofuels.We are involved in a wide variety of undertakings in support of this mission:We provide pure biodiesel (B100) to the community.We provide a space where worker members can make their own fuel fromwaste vegetable oil.We have a USDA Research Farm where we do oilseed crop research.We have an elaborate glycerin composting facility.We do education and outreach on both biodiesel and enginemodifications that enable people to use straight vegetable oil (SVO)as fuel.We lobby the North Carolina legislature, as well as our nationalrepresentatives, on behalf of biodiesel and alternative fuels.We have an intern program that allows people to live on site and learnabout all facets of our operations.Becoming a MemberBecoming a member-owner of the coop entitles you to buy biodiesel fromthe coop or learn how to make your own using our equipment. Signing upis easy. Just read the membership agreement and drop off or mail us asigned copy along with your check for $50. We also accept credit cardpayments over the phone or via the web.Web    MailPO Box 661Pittsboro, NC 27312  Phone(919) 321-8260___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/  Lyle EstillPiedmont Biofuelswww.biofuels.coop919-321-8260Fax: 919-321-6769 ___
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Re: [Biofuel] E10 experience here in Manila

[Ramon]

Hi Guys

Check out this web site - this is something like what I'd like to set
up in the Philippines - a coop of course.

Best regards,
Mon
---
http://www.biofuels.coop/coop.shtml
--
Piedmont Biofuels

CO-OP

Piedmont Biofuels is a worker and member owned cooperative. Our
mission is to lead the grassroots sustainability movement in North
Carolina by using and encouraging the use of clean, renewable
biofuels.

We are involved in a wide variety of undertakings in support of this mission:

We provide pure biodiesel (B100) to the community.
We provide a space where worker members can make their own fuel from
waste vegetable oil.
We have a USDA Research Farm where we do oilseed crop research.
We have an elaborate glycerin composting facility.
We do education and outreach on both biodiesel and engine
modifications that enable people to use straight vegetable oil (SVO)
as fuel.
We lobby the North Carolina legislature, as well as our national
representatives, on behalf of biodiesel and alternative fuels.
We have an intern program that allows people to live on site and learn
about all facets of our operations.



Becoming a Member

Becoming a member-owner of the coop entitles you to buy biodiesel from
the coop or learn how to make your own using our equipment. Signing up
is easy. Just read the membership agreement and drop off or mail us a
signed copy along with your check for $50. We also accept credit card
payments over the phone or via the web.

Web
Mail
PO Box 661
Pittsboro, NC 27312  Phone
(919) 321-8260

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Re: [Biofuel] Lye -> Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions

[dwoodard]

Remember that water weighs 1 kilogram per litre, by the original
definition of the litre. If Joe's specific gravity for the oil of
0.92 is exact, then the oil weighs 920 grams per litre.

Is the 1.0% supposed to be the amount of lye *solution* per litre of
oil (which would raise the question of what concentration), or the
amount of actual NaOH?

Also remember that the Imperial and U.S. systems are not the same.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Hunter McCormack wrote:

> I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric to
> imperial and I have stumped myself in the process.
>
> I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of the
> virgin vegetable oil weight.  It's given that this is approximately 3.5
> grams/liter.  This implies that the vegetable oil weighs .35 kg/liter.
> There are 3.8 liters/gallon.  This means that the oil would weigh 1.3
> kg/gallon or 2.9 lbs/gallon.  This is contradictory to the weight
> measurements that I have found for virgin vegetable oil that state there are
> approximately 7.4 lbs/gallon.  What am I missing in this unit conversion?
>
> Hunter

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Re: [Biofuel] try linux

[Doug Foskey]

Another good Live CD is Mepis. I have been using Mepis for about 2 years & it 
is great: easy to set up, will run on old(er) hardware, & is Debian based, so 
good support for updating, etc. Also loads easily on the Harddisc when you 
decide you like it.

regards Doug

On Saturday 15 October 2005 6:07, Roland wrote:
> concerniong the virus problems: try linux. I started up my pc from
> cd-rom with a live linux installation: No change on the HD is made. And
> you have a working version of linux in 10 minutes. Meaning internet
> worrking, browsers, e-mail clients an office program etc. You move out
> of the dangerzone. What do you need windows for anyway. You can download
> Knoppix or Linspire from the net, burn an image etc. It's great. Btw
> great information from you guys on the other side, me being in Europe,
> Amsterdam. I also heard about the problem getting diesel engines for
> normal cars, like f.i. a volkswagen golf diesel turbo.  Could maybe
> setup some im/export exchange. If theres is interest let me know. I'll
> keep listening
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Re: [Biofuel] Lye -> Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions

[Paul S Cantrell]

www.onlineconversion.com  is very helpful!

What kind of oil?  
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html

Where does the 1% come from? 
Are you confusing the amounts of lye with titration?
NaOH for virgin oil is 3.5 grams/liter
0.1% w/v lye solution

About Lye:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lyeOn 10/18/05, Hunter McCormack <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric toimperial and I have stumped myself in the process.I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of thevirgin vegetable oil weight.  It's given that this is approximately 
3.5grams/liter.  This implies that the vegetable oil weighs .35 kg/liter.There are 3.8 liters/gallon.  This means that the oil would weigh 1.3kg/gallon or 2.9 lbs/gallon.  This is contradictory to the weight
measurements that I have found for virgin vegetable oil that state there areapproximately 7.4 lbs/gallon.  What am I missing in this unit conversion?Hunter_
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Re: [Biofuel] Lye -> Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions

[Joe Street]

Hunter McCormack wrote:

> I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric 
> to imperial and I have stumped myself in the process.
>
> I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of 
> the virgin vegetable oil weight.  It's given that this is 
> approximately 3.5 grams/liter.  This implies that the vegetable oil 
> weighs .35 kg/liter.

I measured the specific gravity of my WVO which is canola oil and it 
came in at 0.92. Just as a sanity check on my hydrometer ( why do I 
never never trust anything??) I measured out 20 liters of WVO by volume 
and weighed it on a surplus triple beam balance that I picked up (20 kg 
capacity for a song -what a deal).  By this method I calculated 0.915 
SG.  BTW I got the same SG (0.92 with hydrometer) for brand new canola 
as well.

regards
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[Biofuel] Lye -> Metric to Imperial Unit Conversions

[Hunter McCormack]

I am trying to understand the conversion of lye quantities from metric to 
imperial and I have stumped myself in the process.


I understand from given data that lye is used in the amount 1.0% of the 
virgin vegetable oil weight.  It's given that this is approximately 3.5 
grams/liter.  This implies that the vegetable oil weighs .35 kg/liter.  
There are 3.8 liters/gallon.  This means that the oil would weigh 1.3 
kg/gallon or 2.9 lbs/gallon.  This is contradictory to the weight 
measurements that I have found for virgin vegetable oil that state there are 
approximately 7.4 lbs/gallon.  What am I missing in this unit conversion?


Hunter

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Re: [Biofuel] methoxide solution - missing scale

[Brian Rodgers]

I knew I should have kept my mouth shut. Hehe
Sorry I am being silly again.
Keith you do have a great web site and now that you have explained the
layered information technique I will go back again and read it all
again. I actually knew there was a great depth to the JTF site because
every time I ask a question you quickly respond with a link to another
information pool I had overlooked. You are absolutely right, there is
a lot of info there and when combined with this email list it is all
coming together for me. I take full responsibility for my words and
more so for my actions. With this in mind, can I blame the skipping of
titration of the WVO, on my wife, the ex-science teacher?

 I try not to bother you all with excerpts from my daily newsletter.

I use my writing as a catch all to keep friends and family informed of
what  we are doing. Having not posted most of my daily chronicle you
of course don't get to see the summations of what I have learned here.
Somehow I guess I am saying that all you see are the questions I post
as I am knee deep in this.For instance in my newsletter I made note of
all of our short comings many of which you noted that day.

After rereading this morning's newsletter I don't believe there is
anything there that would shed any light on my thinking (or lack
thereof) on this topic. Thank goodness I didn't post my verbose
newsletter, right? Basically, I state that I have a lot of respect for
you and will listen and learn. I know that precision is better and I
need to get prepared for this weekend's chem-lab.project. I will look
in a pet store for the Phenolphthalein. I have graduated syringes and
pipettes. A triple beam scale is on the way. I looked at the Salvation
Army next store and they have a blender for $15.00.



On another thread called "White lye" I see that my lye may be
questionale too. I followed the link
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye . I was wondering
what the dark colored particles in my lye were. After reading your
description I beleive I have aluminum in there. So, I now have to find
a source for clean lye.

That's all I have time for Keith. I know this isn't much after your
wonderful letter. I guess I want you to know that I do have something
going on.
Thank you for your patience.
Your's truly,
Brian Rodgers

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[Biofuel] best oil to make BD

[Juan B]

Hello Everyone, 

I Would like to know what is the best vegetable oil that can be use to
get the most biodiesel ? or it would be better to get animal fat?

I looked at the tables in the website but I did not completely understand . 
thanks
Juan
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[Biofuel] hydrogen

[john owens]

 
 
Has anyone used hydrogen generators in there cars.
They are sabose to reduce Emissions Including Nox.
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[Michael Luich]

double paned.On 10/18/05, ROY Washbish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mike
If I amy ask do you have single or double pain windows the you are covering?
I live in New England also and am wondering.
Thanks
Roy Washbish
 
Michael Luich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I
live in an old summer home in new england and my wife got the window
quilt fabric which includes a foil layer at the local fabric store.We
end up with them up all the time on some windows such as the bedroom
where we don't really need daylight. As winter gets on and there's less
light anyway's your not cutting out much. They do make a huge
difference especial if combined with plastic, We just did the bedroom
yesterday, Plastic outside, window fabric inside. WOW instant warmth.An easy way to improve the window insulation and when done as roman blinds you can keep the window.Mike Luich

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[Biofuel] Kyoto City's biodiesel plant

[Keith Addison]

Some pictures here of Kyoto City's biodiesel plant:
http://www.e-revo.jp/new/sisetu-sinnsetu.html

Technology provided by Revo International (Japanese company), plant 
built by Hitachi Shipping company (official English name not known).

The plant "can make" 5,000 litres of biodiesel a day.

The construction cost was 751,000,000 yen, about US$7,500,000.

We tested some biodiesel from Revo. Strong smell of methanol and the 
completion wasn't good.

This project has been fueling one of the city's garbage truck fleets 
since 1999 I think and nothing else has happened. The biodiesel plant 
apparently runs at a profit made from guided tours of the plant.

In Japan a small, 100-litre per day batch reactor costs anything from 
US$70,000 to about $200,000, flogged by various companies. They can't 
handle much FFA if any. Some have been sold but very few are used, 
they just stand there doing nothing. Where they are used the fuel is 
poor quality, usually poor completion.

This is one reason Handmade Biodiesel a la Journey to Forever was 
such an unknown concept here in Japan, that anyone can make biodiesel 
and you can make the processor out of bits of junk. It's not unknown 
now though.

Best wishes

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[Darryl McMahon]

Jesse (mark manchester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Hi Robert, Darryl, Keith,
> We've just finished pressing pink insulation into the headers in the
> basement., sealed the basement door, which leaked water in a storm anyway,
> and plastic'd the basement windows.  Clearly these were the areas we had not
> addressed before.  Let there be no more $500/month heating bills, please.

Have you covered the insulation?  This will further reduce drafts.  I used foil 
to 
get the radiant barrier as well as the air-stop.  If the spaces between the 
headers 
are small, perhaps you can find waste mylar big enough.  I read somewhere that 
somebody used the coffee bags from a Starbucks.  I haven't explored that 
myself, 
but I have heard from other sources that Starbucks will set aside used coffee 
grounds on request (to add to your compost or your lawn).

The search for energy savings never ends.  Continue to look for cold spots and 
drafts.  Spider webs are a good indication of drafts, even when incense and 
tissue 
paper flags don't find them.

> Window quilts, why not?  Only at night, though, right?  Otherwise, always
> wear a miner's helmet with the light on the forehead.

Normally.  However, if the window is not sun-facing or the weather is as dark 
and 
dismal as it has been here this past week, it becomes a judgement call.  Our 
window 
quilts have been on as much as off the past week during "daylight" hours.

> I'm very envious of your garden, Robert, I love reading about it.  Out I go
> right now with my wagon full of compost to begin digging my little patch in
> the sun.  Thankyou, Keith, for the great info about square foot gardens.  So
> encouraging!
> 
> Jesse
> 
> > From: robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:33:16 -0700
> > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Heat by BD or byproduct
> > 
> > mark manchester wrote:
> > 
> >> Darryl, I'm STUNNED!!!  Your house must be wrapped in R60.
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I live on the left coast, which is considerably milder than
> > Ottawa, but my family of four only spent about $700 on natural gas
> > last winter.  Insulation, weatherstripping and good windows are key.
> > We could do more with window quilts, but my sweetheart isn't too fond
> > of the idea. . .

Yes, well, I had to make our window quilts, despite the fact my wife is the 
quilter 
in the family.  At least the equipment was here, and binding the quilt was a 
nice, 
warm, sedentary activity on a cool late autumn night.

> > 
> > robert luis rabello

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Re: [Biofuel] methoxide solution - missing scale

[Paul S Cantrell]

Dang, and all along I thought it was the Hokey Pokey...On 10/18/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> > This just isn't what it's all about.>What is it all about?
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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[robert luis rabello]

Terry Dyck wrote:

> Terasen was bought by a Texas company.  My speculation is that having 
> control of Natural Gas gives control of the Alberta tar sands oil 
> production.  It takes almost as much Natural Gas to melt the tar sands oil 
> rock, to make it a liquid, as they get back in oil.
> 
> Terry Dyck

I had a discussion about this topic with a former client who designs 
tar sands processing facilities.  He told me that a lot of work has 
been done in utilizing the "leftover" bitumen as an energy source to 
drive oil out of the tar sands and suggested that the process results 
in a net energy gain.  I didn't really follow what he was saying, as 
I'm not that familiar with the process.

As for Terasen, it doesn't matter much to me whether the company is 
owned and operated from Texas or B.C.  They are interested in making a 
profit, hence the rate hike.  That would have happened no matter who 
owned the company.  Perhaps you're right about the tar sands.  I would 
really like to get OUT of buying natural gas to heat my home.

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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[ROY Washbish]

Mike
If I amy ask do you have single or double pain windows the you are covering?
I live in New England also and am wondering.
Thanks
Roy Washbish
 
Michael Luich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I live in an old summer home in new england and my wife got the window quilt fabric which includes a foil layer at the local fabric store.We end up with them up all the time on some windows such as the bedroom where we don't really need daylight. As winter gets on and there's less light anyway's your not cutting out much. They do make a huge difference especial if combined with plastic, We just did the bedroom yesterday, Plastic outside, window fabric inside. WOW instant warmth.An easy way to improve the window insulation and when done as roman blinds you can keep the window.Mike Luich
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[Biofuel] Newbie Question

[allan]

Hi All,

 

Great information from the archives, I hope to be
producing BD soon. Can anyone tell me if they have worked with a 3.0 Isuzu
trooper engine and BD. Also is there anyone in Scotland
that is doing their own home production? If there is that would help with the
learning curve.

 

Keep up the good work and thanks in anticipation,

 

Allan.






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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[Terry Dyck]

Terasen was bought by a Texas company.  My speculation is that having 
control of Natural Gas gives control of the Alberta tar sands oil 
production.  It takes almost as much Natural Gas to melt the tar sands oil 
rock, to make it a liquid, as they get back in oil.

Terry Dyck


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>Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:32:24 -0700
>
>mark manchester wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert, Darryl, Keith,
> > We've just finished pressing pink insulation into the headers in the
> > basement., sealed the basement door, which leaked water in a storm 
>anyway,
> > and plastic'd the basement windows.  Clearly these were the areas we had 
>not
> > addressed before.  Let there be no more $500/month heating bills, 
>please.
>
>   Yikes!  We just received a notice from Terasen (the company that
>sells us natural gas) that our rates will go up by 15% this month.  I
>think we'll be longing for wood heat pretty soon.
>
> > Window quilts, why not?  Only at night, though, right?  Otherwise, 
>always
> > wear a miner's helmet with the light on the forehead.
>
>   I'm pretty sure you'd only put them up at night.  I've been trying to
>get my sweetheart to make window quilts, but she's not been terribly
>enthusiastic yet.  I guess energy is STILL too cheap!
>
>
> > I'm very envious of your garden, Robert, I love reading about it.  Out I 
>go
> > right now with my wagon full of compost to begin digging my little patch 
>in
> > the sun.
>
>   I'm glad you find it encouraging.  I still have a lot of work to do,
>getting my garden up to maximum productivity, but given that it was
>nearly sterile a couple of years ago (and would support little more
>than horsetail), it's exciting to see abundant earthworm and insect
>life in the soil.  Having written that, some of the "off list"
>responses I've been getting suggest there is a great deal of
>skepticism about the long term viability of gardening this way.
>
>   Mining the soil?  I don't think so!
>
>robert luis rabello
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>
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Re: [Biofuel] Anyone find a source for used centrifuges?

[tim Haines]

we would like to set up something similar in italy. Have you some information on what you are doing
regards
 
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dairys use a centrifuge to seperate the cream from the milk. small, home use ones are numerous on ebay. > Dear All-> I'm helping to set up a small scale (about 5-8 thousand gallons per > year)> processing unit at Rice University. This is a completely student run> project, and we've got most of the kinks worked out. One problem we have is> that one of the colleges on campus somehow manages to produce WVO that has a> large quantity of water and fries, batter, etc in it. So we don't have to> waste energy to de-water by heating, or spend a few weeks settling (we are> somewhat limited on space) the gunk out, I'd like to use a small scale> centrifuge to remove water and junk from the oil. Problem is, the only ones> I can seem to find are either for use in cars or are much more than we need.> Does
 anyone out there have a source for a centrifuge that can process about> 5-10 gpm?> Cheers!> - Matt Yarrison> > > ___> Biofuel mailing list> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html> > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/> ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000
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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[Michael Luich]

I live in an old summer home in new england and my wife got the window
quilt fabric which includes a foil layer at the local fabric store.

We end up with them up all the time on some windows such as the bedroom
where we don't really need daylight. As winter gets on and there's less
light anyway's your not cutting out much. 

They do make a huge difference especial if combined with plastic, We
just did the bedroom yesterday, Plastic outside, window fabric inside.
WOW instant warmth.

An easy way to improve the window insulation and when done as roman blinds you can keep the window.

Mike LuichOn 10/18/05, mark manchester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Robert, Darryl, Keith,We've just finished pressing pink insulation into the headers in thebasement., sealed the basement door, which leaked water in a storm anyway,and plastic'd the basement windows.  Clearly these were the areas we had not
addressed before.  Let there be no more $500/month heating bills, please.Window quilts, why not?  Only at night, though, right?  Otherwise, alwayswear a miner's helmet with the light on the forehead.I'm very envious of your garden, Robert, I love reading about it.  Out I go
right now with my wagon full of compost to begin digging my little patch inthe sun.  Thankyou, Keith, for the great info about square foot gardens.  Soencouraging!Jesse> From: robert luis rabello <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:33:16 -0700> To: 
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Heat by BD or byproduct>> mark manchester wrote:>>> Darryl, I'm STUNNED!!!  Your house must be wrapped in R60.
>>> Well, I live on the left coast, which is considerably milder than> Ottawa, but my family of four only spent about $700 on natural gas> last winter.  Insulation, weatherstripping and good windows are key.
> We could do more with window quilts, but my sweetheart isn't too fond> of the idea. . .>> robert luis rabello> "The Edge of Justice"> Adventure for Your Mind> 
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Re: [Biofuel] methoxide solution - missing scale

[Keith Addison]

Hello Brian

I'm sorry I spelled your name wrong, people are always doing that to 
me so I should know better. (But it was late...)

>Hello Keith
>Thank you for the thoughtful and considerate review of my weekend's
>fun in setting up our first mixer and solution of methoxide.

I didn't want it to be a putdown but I guess it was anyway.

> > Wow, the Dark Ages are back! LOL!
>How true, for me I don't know about Kurt.

In the biodiesel world it harks back to the good old days that 
weren't but it was fun anyway, with people posting photographs on the 
Web of their first batch of biod, leaning over open processors with 
sparking drill motors doing the stirring and so on. A little later 
they were wearing breathing masks while leaning over their open 
processors, before it got figured out (someone asked a chemicals 
company) that not only ordinary breathing masks but even organic 
vapour masks are useless against methanol fumes. And so on. Now we 
look back and shudder and wonder why nobody even got hurt, and what 
are all those guardian angels that must've worked so hard to save our 
asses doing with themselves these days, well-deserved early 
retirement I guess. Anyway we don't want to be going back there.

> > Um. Look, I really don't want to put a damper on your enthusiasm so
> > I'll try not to but I'm in wonderment at the way you're going about
> > it.
>Not to worry I can't be dis-enthused this easy.

:-) I didn't think you could.

> > This just isn't what it's all about.
>What is it all about?

Couple of things beyond the immediately obvious. I think the main 
point is the context. Depends how broad you want to make it, it can 
be as broad as you like, then shrink it down to the immediate level 
and see how much of it fits.

There's this, from an altogether different thread a couple of weeks 
back, three different people:

>>> > Anyway, I am sorry if I have cause hate and discontent.
>>>
>>>I think you're misunderstanding. Calling you into accountability for
>>>accuracy does NOT imply hatred or discontent. Please be careful with
>>>your facts in the future!
>>
>>snip>
>>No need to be careful just to inspire.
>
>Yes there is. It takes both otherwise you'll mislead. Or you've come 
>to the wrong place.

Which he then cheerfully admitted, no problem.

Arguably the opposite is more true, that if you're out to inspire 
people you should be much more careful, not less, you have to take a 
long view. And get your facts right.

With biodiesel, there are two ways of going about it. One focuses on 
encouraging newbies - make it as quick and easy as possible to get 
results the first time or they'll lose interest, quick results, never 
mind what results.

So for instance one guy ("But I'm a professor!" LOL!) uploaded his 
biodiesel how-to showing just that, Dark Ages stuff, him leaning over 
open processors and messing with methoxide with no gloves, no goggles 
and not even a useless breathing mask, just to show people how easy 
it really is, he said, and though he was using WVO he didn't say 
anything about titration because don't make it too complicated: 
"KISS! Keep It Simple Stupid!" But KISS is as KISS DOES (Don't 
Oversimplify Either, Stupid).

The next development or maybe the one after that was there's no need 
for titration with WVO, just use 6.25 grams, Mike Pelly says so. 
Indeed he does say so, but if you actually read it, what he says is 
that titration is the most important step, do it very carefully and 
then do it twice:

"To determine the correct amount of lye required, a titration must be 
performed on the oil being transesterified. This is the most 
difficult step in the process, and the most critical -- make your 
titration as accurate as possible... It's a good idea to do this 
entire process more than once to ensure that your number is correct."
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
Biodiesel recipe from Mike Pelly: Journey to Forever

But a lot of people, even now, just use 6.25 grams. Maybe it'll even 
pass the wash-test if you bend the test too and use hot water or 
something, or more likely the wash-test gets sneered at as useless, 
it doesn't work - onward to super-gentle washing methods that will 
mask incomplete reactions loaded with emulsifiers and soap, and then 
it's stir-washing that "doesn't work". And so on. There's a whole 
school of this iffy stuff. "I've done dozens of trouble-free miles 
already!"

But as you can see from the messages being posted here all the time, 
the wash-test isn't useless, titration is necessary, stir-washing 
does work, and diesels should do half a million trouble-free miles, 
not just dozens. Quality-control issues are important, with making 
biodiesel and with information, and also for the list, which has a 
distinct role and function and will achieve different goals otherwise.

Will people lose interest unless you lower the goalposts for them so 
they can score 100% first time? That's what advertising people and PR 
spin merchants and our 

Re: [Biofuel] methoxide solution - missing scale

[Keith Addison]

Hello again Brian



>Now Keith, please don't take this the wrong way (negative being wrong)
>has it occurred to you that maybe the flow of the JTF web site gets a
>little interrupted here and there? When was the last time you sat down
>with a newbie and watched as each step is absorbed and asked questions
>about comprehension? Again I don't mean to offend. For all I know you
>use your web page to teach newbies all the time and I am an idiot.

Actually we do, and a whole bunch of people do it on their own 
without any more help from us, and others use it as a course to teach 
other people.

It's layered information. Here's a comment from a user a few days 
ago, not untypical, but he puts it well:

>Your website is very well done.  I appreciate the layers of 
>technical complexity.  You have progressively more technical 
>information layered in an escalating and logical fashion.  I like 
>the links as each new item is introduced, the user can click for 
>more specific information on a topic and it opens in a new window. 
>This eliminates the tediousness of having to constantly backtrack to 
>where the new concept was introduced.

But, sorry about this, maybe not if you're scatterbrained about it. A 
guy complained once about all the new windows you end up with, I 
guess people either get it or they don't. Most people seem to get it, 
and like it. We get a lot of feedback, usually something like this: 
"What an excellent site. Well done!" I've got thousands of them.

I'm an info pro Brian, I've been doing this sort of stuff for ever. 
There's a lot of information design in the JtF website. Some people 
want to go about it as if they expect it all to fit on a single page 
like a story they can read, but the biodiesel section at JtF is about 
half as long as the Bible and it's not a story, it's technical 
information. Linear organisation like a book just doesn't work very 
well online with that kind of material. Some of the attempts I've 
seen fail to impress, trying to do it with footnotes and so on 
doesn't work well. You have to layer it.

Anyway, thankyou, I'm very aware of how the JtF website works and 
what the constraints are.

Best wishes

Keith


>Sincerely Brian Rodgers


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Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged diesel

[Brian Rodgers]

Thanks for the reply
I only ever found the peugeot 505 S in the vintage CD of Michell's
I got the few pages we found printed out.
thanks
Brian Rodgers
On 10/18/05, Doug Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian,
>  most of the CD mans are pdfs. Just print the relevant pages for the job in
> hand.
>
> regards Doug
>
> On Monday 10 October 2005 10:59, Brian Rodgers wrote:
> > Very good idea thanks Doug.
> >
> > On 10/9/05, Doug Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Search on the web: you may be lucky. The Haynes manualwould be available
> > > from book suppliers (but there are some inaccuracies in Haynes manuals:
> > > but they are better than nothing!)
> >
> > See the other similar threads for my comments on Haynes. You are right
> > nevertheless.
> >   There is also a seller on ebay selling CDs of
> >
> > > manuals: there could be one available there (UK supplier)
> >
> > Like the Mitchell's on demand set? Yeah I keep meaning to pirate
> > those, somehow I have never got to it. But then I would need a PC in
> > the workshop. Don't know, wishy-washy again.
> > Truly,
> > Brian
> >
> > > regards Doug
> > >
> > > On Saturday 08 October 2005 10:57, Brian Rodgers wrote:
> > > > Hello everybody
> > > > Thank you so much for the replies.
> > > > I was told when I got this car that it had a blown head gasket. The
> > > > reasoning the mechanic used was excess pressure on the coolant system.
> > > > Also, now that I have started the engine a few times it fires up
> > > > pretty quick.
> > > > Here is an excerpt from a note I sent  to a friend this afternoon.
> > > > It may give you a heads up on what is happening.
> > > > I just made some changes to the coolant lines and it made a big
> > > > difference. I took it for the 'first' test drive, sweet!!!
> > > > What I have found so far:
> > > > Fan clutch slipping.
> > > > In-line thermostat??? Yeah the thermostat was jammed inside the big
> > > > hose coming from the head to radiator, with two hose clamps holding it
> > > > in place. That can't be right. Anyway it's working- I tested it in
> > > > boiling water  Also upon inspection there is slight discoloration on
> > > > the Thermostat inflow side, looks like exhaust smoke.
> > > > Still blowing white smoke when idling. Smoke turns black when
> > > > accelerating. Shifts great, all gears work.
> > > > No speedo.
> > > >
> > > > As you can see it may indeed be a blown head gasket. Although no oil
> > > > emulsion (coolant in oil) and no oil in coolant.
> > > > What I would really like is a shop manual for this car. If I am going
> > > > to pull the head I feel better if I know where everything goes back
> > > > to. Not to mention, torques and bolt tightening patterns. Does anyone
> > > > know of a  good Peugeot  parts supplier?
> > > > Again thanks for the info and help.
> > > > Brian Rodgers
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Re: [Biofuel] Anyone find a source for used centrifuges?

[garutek]

I just found this also http://www.bestlabdeals.com/Centrifuges_s/8297.htm

I was looking for a set of beakers for my first batch not a centrifuge.
Good luck, Gary
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> dairys use a centrifuge to seperate the cream from the milk. small, home 
> use ones are numerous on ebay.
>
>
>> Dear All-
>> I'm helping to set up a small scale (about 5-8 thousand gallons per
>> year)
>> processing unit at Rice University. This is a completely student run
>> project, and we've got most of the kinks worked out. One problem we have 
>> is
>> that one of the colleges on campus somehow manages to produce WVO that 
>> has a
>> large quantity of water and fries, batter, etc in it. So we don't have to
>> waste energy to de-water by heating, or spend a few weeks settling (we 
>> are
>> somewhat limited on space) the gunk out, I'd like to use a small scale
>> centrifuge to remove water and junk from the oil. Problem is, the only 
>> ones
>> I can seem to find are either for use in cars or are much more than we 
>> need.
>> Does anyone out there have a source for a centrifuge that can process 
>> about
>> 5-10 gpm?
>> Cheers!
>> - Matt Yarrison
>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Kia Carnival an Biodiesel

[Zeke Yewdall]

Exactly.  I still want the toyota made VW Taro that we had in
Africa.  Way better (fuel consumption, as well as off road
handling and load capacity) than the toyota tacoma available here in
the US.On 10/18/05, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  


Shoot - I drove all over Africa in a stick Diesel Mitsubishi Pajero and
got 40average  mpg even in 4 wheel drive much of the time.

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Re: [Biofuel] Kia Carnival an Biodiesel

[Mike Weaver]

Shoot - I drove all over Africa in a stick Diesel Mitsubishi Pajero and
got 40average  mpg even in 4 wheel drive much of the time.

Paul S Cantrell wrote:
I found the following forum for Kia owners that has
threads on the engine and at least one thread on biodiesel:
  http://www.kia-forums.com/f16-kia-carnival-sedona-forum.htm
  
I believe that the engine is built by Kia and was based on a Mazda
engine?  Can anyone confirm?
  
If Kia sold diesels in the US, I would probably consider one...
  
  On 10/18/05, Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
  Well,
it should be the same as any other newer direct injection
diesel.  Typically these don't have any trouble on high quaility
biodiesel, but often have problems with lower quaility biodiesel
(unwashed fuel, glycerin in the fuel, or incompletely reacted
fuel).  I don't have any specific experience with the 2.9 liter
Kia diesel, but I don't see that good quality biodiesel should cause
any problems over petro-diesel.  It should be new enough that the
lines and seals should be biodiesel compatible, although someone with
experience with this particular engine can probably correct me. 
Just remember to have an extra fuel filter on hand, as the biodiesel
will clean out alot of crud in the fuel system if you've been using
petro-diesel in it for a while.

Zeke


On 10/18/05, Dietmar
<
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  

  
Hi,
>I would like to run a Kia Carnival on biodiesel.
Does anybody know
>what problems I might face? Do I risk to ruin the
engine?
>
>Cheers
>
>Dietmar

  
  


  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  


  

  
  


  
  
  
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Re: [Biofuel] Kia Carnival an Biodiesel

[Zeke Yewdall]

 

If Kia sold diesels in the US, I would probably consider one...What
I've found is that just about anything sold in the US with a gas engine
and automatic transmission, is available in europe or asia with a
diesel and a manual transmission.  Sort of blows holes in the
arguement that they use here that it's impossible to make a car that
gets better gas mileage...
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Re: [Biofuel] Kia Carnival an Biodiesel

[Paul S Cantrell]

I found the following forum for Kia owners that has threads on the engine and at least one thread on biodiesel:
http://www.kia-forums.com/f16-kia-carnival-sedona-forum.htm

I believe that the engine is built by Kia and was based on a Mazda engine?  Can anyone confirm?

If Kia sold diesels in the US, I would probably consider one...On 10/18/05, Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Well, it should be the same as any other newer direct injection
diesel.  Typically these don't have any trouble on high quaility
biodiesel, but often have problems with lower quaility biodiesel
(unwashed fuel, glycerin in the fuel, or incompletely reacted
fuel).  I don't have any specific experience with the 2.9 liter
Kia diesel, but I don't see that good quality biodiesel should cause
any problems over petro-diesel.  It should be new enough that the
lines and seals should be biodiesel compatible, although someone with
experience with this particular engine can probably correct me. 
Just remember to have an extra fuel filter on hand, as the biodiesel
will clean out alot of crud in the fuel system if you've been using
petro-diesel in it for a while.

ZekeOn 10/18/05, Dietmar <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:










Hi,
>I would like to run a Kia Carnival on biodiesel. Does anybody know
>what problems I might face? Do I risk to ruin the engine?
>
>Cheers
>
>Dietmar








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[Biofuel] The latest investor in green energy - the CIA

[Kirk McLoren]

from the October 18, 2005 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1018/p02s01-sten.html    The latest investor in green energy - the CIA*Within hours, solar and wind energy units can be up and running in war or disaster zones.**By John Dillin* | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor*ARLINGTON, VA.* - What if you had a power unit that generated substantial electrical energy with no fuel? What if it were so rugged that you could parachute it out of an airplane? What if it were so easy to set up that two people could have it running in just a few hours?Now there is such a device - built by a small Virginia start-up - and the federal government has taken notice.SkyBuilt Power Inc. has begun building electricity-generating units fueled mostly by solar and wind energy. The units, which use a
 battery backup system when the sun is down and the wind is calm, are designed to run for years with little maintenance.Depending upon its configuration, SkyBuilt's Mobile Power Station (MPS) can generate up to 150 kilowatts of electricity, says David Muchow, the firm's president and CEO. That's enough to power an emergency operations center, an Army field kitchen, or a small medical facility.Privately owned SkyBuilt now has a new investor - In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm set up by the US Central Intelligence Agency. Skybuilt and In-Q-Tel will announce Tuesday that they have signed a strategic development agreement, including an investment in SkyBuilt.In-Q-Tel's support is a breakthrough for the small firm. (The "Q" in In-Q-Tel is a whimsical play on the movie character "Q" who supplies James Bond with nifty gadgets.) SkyBuilt provides innovative energy solutions with the potential to help meet a wide variety of critical
 government and commercial power needs, says Gilman Louie, In-Q-Tel president and CEO.The power stations could have important uses for disaster relief, homeland security, military operations, intelligence work, and a variety of commercial applications. The units are not yet designed for use by homeowners.Though it is not mentioned, SkyBuilt units would have obvious applications in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, where soldiers risk their lives over long supply lines to truck in fuel for generators.After hurricane Katrina, SkyBuilt units could have been rushed to the scene and set up in hours, restoring power to hospitals, evacuee centers, police and fire departments, and cellphone towers.One big drawback of solar energy until now has been that it was a "custom industry," says Scott Sklar, vice president of SkyBuilt. Components are usually put together on-site, and differ from location to location. "When you buy a
 car, do they ship in all the pieces to your front yard and have somebody assemble it? I'm afraid not. We [at SkyBuilt] learned something from Henry Ford," he adds.SkyBuilt follows the Ford model. Its MPS units are what Sklar calls "plop and drop, plug and play."It works this way: Parts for each Skybuilt unit are packed into standard-size shipping containers. The containers, specially modified and strengthened, can be moved by ship, truck, train, or even dropped by a laser-guided parachute to the most remote location.Once on-site, the container is opened, and arms and poles are attached to the outside to hold solar cells and wind turbines. A prototype built here in Arlington has been running steadily for more than a year without repairs or maintenance.While SkyBuilt has 140 patent claims on its energy system, most of its individual component parts are widely available. Mr. Muchow explains that its MPS can use photovoltaic
 cells, small wind turbines, computers, batteries, and other parts from essentially any manufacturer.This open architecture allows its MPS units to be upgraded whenever a battery or other manufacturer comes out with a better product. It also reduces costs.This was attractive to In-Q-Tel. The government could develop its own advanced technology (as "Q" might do). But it is far less costly to support technology like SkyBuilt's that also finds a larger market in the private sector, says Troy Pearsall, vice president of technology at In-Q-Tel.In-Q-Tel, meanwhile, has signed agreements similar to this one with more than 80 companies since it was set up in 1999. Its mission is to identify and invest in firms with cutting-edge technologies that can aid US national security._Full HTML version of this story which may include photos, graphics, and related links_ __www.csmonitor.com | Copyright © 2005 The Christian Science Monitor. All rights reserved.For permission to reprint/republish this article, please email _Copyright_ 
   
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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[robert luis rabello]

mark manchester wrote:

> Hi Robert, Darryl, Keith,
> We've just finished pressing pink insulation into the headers in the
> basement., sealed the basement door, which leaked water in a storm anyway,
> and plastic'd the basement windows.  Clearly these were the areas we had not
> addressed before.  Let there be no more $500/month heating bills, please.

Yikes!  We just received a notice from Terasen (the company that 
sells us natural gas) that our rates will go up by 15% this month.  I 
think we'll be longing for wood heat pretty soon.

> Window quilts, why not?  Only at night, though, right?  Otherwise, always
> wear a miner's helmet with the light on the forehead.

I'm pretty sure you'd only put them up at night.  I've been trying to 
get my sweetheart to make window quilts, but she's not been terribly 
enthusiastic yet.  I guess energy is STILL too cheap!


> I'm very envious of your garden, Robert, I love reading about it.  Out I go
> right now with my wagon full of compost to begin digging my little patch in
> the sun.

I'm glad you find it encouraging.  I still have a lot of work to do, 
getting my garden up to maximum productivity, but given that it was 
nearly sterile a couple of years ago (and would support little more 
than horsetail), it's exciting to see abundant earthworm and insect 
life in the soil.  Having written that, some of the "off list" 
responses I've been getting suggest there is a great deal of 
skepticism about the long term viability of gardening this way.

Mining the soil?  I don't think so!

robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
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Re: [Biofuel] Kia Carnival an Biodiesel

[Zeke Yewdall]

Well, it should be the same as any other newer direct injection
diesel.  Typically these don't have any trouble on high quaility
biodiesel, but often have problems with lower quaility biodiesel
(unwashed fuel, glycerin in the fuel, or incompletely reacted
fuel).  I don't have any specific experience with the 2.9 liter
Kia diesel, but I don't see that good quality biodiesel should cause
any problems over petro-diesel.  It should be new enough that the
lines and seals should be biodiesel compatible, although someone with
experience with this particular engine can probably correct me. 
Just remember to have an extra fuel filter on hand, as the biodiesel
will clean out alot of crud in the fuel system if you've been using
petro-diesel in it for a while.

ZekeOn 10/18/05, Dietmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Hi,
>I would like to run a Kia Carnival on biodiesel. Does anybody know
>what problems I might face? Do I risk to ruin the engine?
>
>Cheers
>
>Dietmar












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Re: [Biofuel] Prep for winter

[mark manchester]

Hi Robert, Darryl, Keith,
We've just finished pressing pink insulation into the headers in the
basement., sealed the basement door, which leaked water in a storm anyway,
and plastic'd the basement windows.  Clearly these were the areas we had not
addressed before.  Let there be no more $500/month heating bills, please.
Window quilts, why not?  Only at night, though, right?  Otherwise, always
wear a miner's helmet with the light on the forehead.

I'm very envious of your garden, Robert, I love reading about it.  Out I go
right now with my wagon full of compost to begin digging my little patch in
the sun.  Thankyou, Keith, for the great info about square foot gardens.  So
encouraging!

Jesse

> From: robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:33:16 -0700
> To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Supplemental Heat by BD or byproduct
> 
> mark manchester wrote:
> 
>> Darryl, I'm STUNNED!!!  Your house must be wrapped in R60.
> 
> 
> Well, I live on the left coast, which is considerably milder than
> Ottawa, but my family of four only spent about $700 on natural gas
> last winter.  Insulation, weatherstripping and good windows are key.
> We could do more with window quilts, but my sweetheart isn't too fond
> of the idea. . .
> 
> robert luis rabello
> "The Edge of Justice"
> Adventure for Your Mind
> http://www.newadventure.ca
> 
> Ranger Supercharger Project Page
> http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
> 
> 



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Re: [Biofuel] Anyone find a source for used centrifuges?

[fresheggs141]

dairys use a centrifuge to seperate the cream from the milk. small, home use 
ones are numerous on ebay. 


> Dear All-
>   I'm helping to set up a small scale (about 5-8 thousand gallons per 
> year)
> processing unit at Rice University. This is a completely student run
> project, and we've got most of the kinks worked out. One problem we have is
> that one of the colleges on campus somehow manages to produce WVO that has a
> large quantity of water and fries, batter, etc in it. So we don't have to
> waste energy to de-water by heating, or spend a few weeks settling (we are
> somewhat limited on space) the gunk out, I'd like to use a small scale
> centrifuge to remove water and junk from the oil. Problem is, the only ones
> I can seem to find are either for use in cars or are much more than we need.
> Does anyone out there have a source for a centrifuge that can process about
> 5-10 gpm?
> Cheers!
> - Matt Yarrison
> 
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[Biofuel] Kia Carnival an Biodiesel

[Dietmar]

Hi,
>I would like to run a Kia Carnival on biodiesel. Does anybody know
>what problems I might face? Do I risk to ruin the engine?
>
>Cheers
>
>Dietmar







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[Biofuel] BD and Oil Burners

[Thomas Kelly]

Good Day to All,
  Does BD clean the 
nozzle of oil burners?
  It is time to 
service my oil burner. I noticed a familiar smell when it came on that, in the 
past, was corrected with a nozzle replacement. I added another 30 gallons of BD 
to the heating oil tank bringing BD up to about 20 -25%. The smell has gone. The 
burner runs fine. 
 
   
Tom
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Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged diesel

[Doug Foskey]

Brian,
 most of the CD mans are pdfs. Just print the relevant pages for the job in 
hand.

regards Doug

On Monday 10 October 2005 10:59, Brian Rodgers wrote:
> Very good idea thanks Doug.
>
> On 10/9/05, Doug Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Search on the web: you may be lucky. The Haynes manualwould be available
> > from book suppliers (but there are some inaccuracies in Haynes manuals:
> > but they are better than nothing!)
>
> See the other similar threads for my comments on Haynes. You are right
> nevertheless.
>   There is also a seller on ebay selling CDs of
>
> > manuals: there could be one available there (UK supplier)
>
> Like the Mitchell's on demand set? Yeah I keep meaning to pirate
> those, somehow I have never got to it. But then I would need a PC in
> the workshop. Don't know, wishy-washy again.
> Truly,
> Brian
>
> > regards Doug
> >
> > On Saturday 08 October 2005 10:57, Brian Rodgers wrote:
> > > Hello everybody
> > > Thank you so much for the replies.
> > > I was told when I got this car that it had a blown head gasket. The
> > > reasoning the mechanic used was excess pressure on the coolant system.
> > > Also, now that I have started the engine a few times it fires up
> > > pretty quick.
> > > Here is an excerpt from a note I sent  to a friend this afternoon.
> > > It may give you a heads up on what is happening.
> > > I just made some changes to the coolant lines and it made a big
> > > difference. I took it for the 'first' test drive, sweet!!!
> > > What I have found so far:
> > > Fan clutch slipping.
> > > In-line thermostat??? Yeah the thermostat was jammed inside the big
> > > hose coming from the head to radiator, with two hose clamps holding it
> > > in place. That can't be right. Anyway it's working- I tested it in
> > > boiling water  Also upon inspection there is slight discoloration on
> > > the Thermostat inflow side, looks like exhaust smoke.
> > > Still blowing white smoke when idling. Smoke turns black when
> > > accelerating. Shifts great, all gears work.
> > > No speedo.
> > >
> > > As you can see it may indeed be a blown head gasket. Although no oil
> > > emulsion (coolant in oil) and no oil in coolant.
> > > What I would really like is a shop manual for this car. If I am going
> > > to pull the head I feel better if I know where everything goes back
> > > to. Not to mention, torques and bolt tightening patterns. Does anyone
> > > know of a  good Peugeot  parts supplier?
> > > Again thanks for the info and help.
> > > Brian Rodgers
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