Hi Mike, Brian
Depending on how much you want to make you can buy dry gas (methanol) -
I get it for .69 at a dollar store
How do you manage to cheat them out of 31 cents?
One type of DriGas is methanol, another is isopropanol, make sure to
get the methanol one.
and Red Devil Lye at the
On 10/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just made my first successful test batches. Now, I want to
make about 200 gallons and store it . Can I store the BD in plastic barrels? I
stored some Dino Diesel in a white plastic barrel once and wound up with 50
gallons of
Hi Mike
Hmm...KOH anyone?
Sure, you'll like it.
But what about alternatives to Red Devil? What will Americans do now
for conveniently packaged, readily available and relatively pure lye,
whether NaOH or KOH?
Does Red Devil have any competition in the draincleaner market that's
pure lye,
I'd like to hear from anyone who uses processed WVO
in their oil furnace. Any differences in the process? Any problem
with the furnace?
Thanks
Dave
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I used to be a mechanic but cars were simple back then!
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Mike Weaver wrote:
Ouch. You must've done it.
Swapping freeze plugs is a standard procedure on every engine I've
ever rebuilt!
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I'll be looking all this up and will post what I find...
Keith Addison wrote:
Hi Mike
Hmm...KOH anyone?
Sure, you'll like it.
But what about alternatives to Red Devil? What will Americans do now
for conveniently packaged, readily available and relatively pure lye,
whether NaOH or
Hello Andrew, John
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I just finished designing and building a batch processor based on the
journey to forever 90 ltr processor I now want to design an ofm flow tube.
Is there any other sites other than cambridge That would be usefull.
John
I've
Greetings,
Apparently Lowe's carries lye in a 2 lb package for around $7. I am sorry,
but I have not paid much attention since I buy my lye in bulk from Boyer
Corporation, Their KOH is 99% pure.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 04:48 AM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
Can soapmaking suppliers offer ready
Greetings,
Just curious, but why would you want one? Raw milk sells for 25% to 50%
more in Texas than pasteurized.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 08:15 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote:
A long time ago in a land far away my extended family raised Holsteins
and had a 2,000 gallon milk pastuerizer. I have seen
Indeed... I'd be a lactovegetarian, if I could find unpasteurized milk.
It seems odd that Americans, being one of the top consumers of milk on
the planet also have the highest occurence of osteoporosis. My
suspicion, (I have no scientific proof) is that the pasteurization
process makes the
Oops. I want to use it as my BD reactor.
I prefer raw milk but it is illegal here!
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
Just curious, but why would you want one? Raw milk sells for 25% to 50%
more in Texas than pasteurized.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 08:15 PM 10/2/2005, you wrote:
A long
The president doesn't have to ask. The way I see it, his two-term programwhich I like to call his "unemployment stimulus package" has already caused me to driveapproximately 80 less miles per day since my recent lay-off.I'm told that if I become destitute and exhaust all my options,there is
Dave
Look at the bottom of this email and you will find links to the info you want
Roy
David Van Vleet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to hear from anyone who uses processed WVO in their oil furnace. Any differences in the process? Any problem with the furnace?
Thanks
More pressure across the sheet will definitely increase throughput
but as one member pointed out the sheet can only take so much. No a
plastic barrel would be worse. And no the size of the pump is not so
much of a factor. I can implode a steel drum with an aquarium pump,
although it will take
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Joe says:
For vacuum use, I would construct a filter by using a pipe with tons of holes drilled in it and wrap it with the sheet or felt or what have you, Then place this pipe inside a larger pipe as a housing. The inlet would be to the outer pipe and then the pipe with the holes becomes a
Derick,
You have given me an idea re: dissolving lye w/o exposure to
fumes.
I am a homebrewer (beer) and have several of the soda kegs you refer to.
Iuse them when I keg beer. The port at the top is for introducing
CO2 to seal the lid, for carbonationandto force the beer out the other
So I guess it had to happen sooner or later! Luckily I only made a small
20 l batch, and not 200! 20 l's of glop...
Ok, ok, I didn't titrate; I thought perhaps since the WVO was from my
regular source, I could use the average 6.2 g lye/litre (actually I used
a little less this time). And I
Greetings,
For once Texas has healthy laws, we have legal raw milk dairies.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 08:26 AM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
Oops. I want to use it as my BD reactor.
I prefer raw milk but it is illegal here!
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
Just curious, but why would you want
Hi Bobby,
Congratulations!!! The first step exciting isnŽt it?? ;-)
Con fecha lunes, 03 de octubre de 2005, 15:56:14, escribiste:
BC OK, so my first test batch was a success! I am now thinking of scaling up,
BC but I need to find a cheaper supply of methanol. Any suggestions?
BC Thanks,
Hello Tom and all
Derick,
You have given me an idea re: dissolving lye w/o exposure to fumes.
I am a homebrewer (beer) and have several of the soda kegs you
refer to. I use them when I keg beer. The port at the top is for
introducing CO2 to seal the lid, for carbonationand to force
OK, so my first test batch was a success! I am now thinking of scaling up,
but I need to find a cheaper supply of methanol. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Bobby Clark
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Apparently around here you can buy methanol from the pump at the local
race course -- the race cars use it for fuel. It's around $5/gallon
or so I think. If you can find any race car people in your area, they
may know where to get it.
Zeke
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There is a cheesemaker that sells a raw sheepsmilk cheese that is to
die for. But since she cannot legally sell raw milk cheeses of
any kind she calls it Catfood.
Best damn catfood I ever tried.
She has aged cheeses that are great too.
Made locally and taste unbeleiveable.
Sorry, no source on
I am purchasing from a company here in Dallas called Univar it runs about
$2.36 a gallon the only catch is they only sell in drums, 55 gal minimum.
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Subject:
Hello all,
A friend of mine is going to start making BD. He brought me three samples of WVO from restaurants. He wanted to know which one of the three would be best for BD.I stopped testing at 10gper liter .1% KOH. At 10g/L there wasno change in PH in any of the three samples. It seemed strange
I have one as well,
My concern would be the rubber seals and having anything that dangerous under pressure.
Mike Luich
Salem NHOn 10/3/05, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Derick,
You have given me an idea re: dissolving lye w/o exposure to
fumes.
I am a homebrewer (beer) and
Greetings,
Our favorite it raw milk in ziplock 1 gallon bags that read: Not for
human consumption.
If you are willing to jump through the hoops, you can be legal here, but
lots of people still sell milk with the label for animals. It is
much cheaper to produce.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 11:55 AM
Yes, Lowe's carries lye in the US under the brand name
Roebic. They do NOT appear to ship it. US$7.66 + tax
for 908 grams here in Charleston, South Carolina.
Claims to be 100% NaOH
Roebic
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener
Item #: 146450Model: HD-CRY
Description:
Contains 100%
I live in Phoenix, AZ and Western States Petroleum sells it in bulk for
2.67/gal. They are a petroleum distributor. I imagine you can find similar
businesses around.
Jason
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Sent: Monday,
Yes, Lowe's carries lye in the US under the brand name
Roebic. They do NOT appear to ship it. US$7.66 + tax
for 908 grams here in Charleston, South Carolina.
Claims to be 100% NaOH
Roebic
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty Crystal Drain Opener
Item #: 146450Model: HD-CRY
Description:
Contains 100% Sodium
I thank you very much.
On 10/3/05, Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, Lowe's carries lye in the US under the brand name Roebic. They do NOT
appear to ship it. US$7.66 + tax for 908 grams here in Charleston, South
Carolina.
Claims to be 100% NaOH
Roebic
2 Lbs. Heavy Duty
Paul,
make sure to update the subject heading.
fredOn 10/3/05, Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, Lowe's carries lye in the US under the brand name
Roebic. They do NOT appear to ship it. US$7.66 + tax
for 908 grams here in Charleston, South Carolina.
Claims to be 100% NaOH
Roebic
2
Yup. One thing France does well is cheese
Fred Finch wrote:
There is a cheesemaker that sells a raw sheepsmilk cheese that is to
die for. But since she cannot legally sell raw milk cheeses of any
kind she calls it Catfood.
Best damn catfood I ever tried.
She has aged cheeses that are
Hrmmph. I feel like my way of life is being negotiated. How am I
supposed to keep gas in my Hummer?
Michael Redler wrote:
The president doesn't have to ask. The way I see it, his two-term
program which I like to call his unemployment stimulus package has
already caused me to drive
Glenn;
I'm not sure exactly what product you are talking about but if you are
thinking about something which is supposed to be disposable please
don't. Whatever we build and use should be made to last and be
emptied, washed and re-used. This is not a throw away world and we
have to get away
Sigh... There were TWO moderators' messages about this last month. PLEASE pay some attention!!!
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Nobody will read a message titled Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol
Congrats
I too need to find methanol however since I am terrible with numbers
and I have as yet not made the strides you have in creating a test
batch, I am unclear how much methanol would be needed for say 20
gallons per week of finished biodiesel? I can see from this group and
at the JTF web
What the heck is this? noname?
Brian Rodgers
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Brian Rodgers wrote:I thank you very much.
You are welcome, of course...Kim knew about it, I just copied the stock #...
This is just the kind of info I need to get started. If I see thisinfo five or so times it just may have a chance to sink in.
Keith said I should just get started. At the moment
I have a cental heating system in our house that burns natural
gas. The unit sits in a closet in about the dead center of the
house.
I live near Charleston, SC USA about 40 miles from the coast, so it
gets cold for a few weeks or a couple of months depending on your
definition of cold. Anyway
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Glenn;I'm not sure exactly what product you are talking about but if you are thinking about something which is supposed to be disposable please don't. Whatever we build and use should be made to last and be
here is a link to a soapmaking website where you can by better quality sodium
hydroxide than Red Devil.
soap makers just trow away the biodiesel.
http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/
mel
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hey thanks.
yeah I caught that Kim pointed to the source but I was congtating you
for the test batch.
Anyway here I go again, Paul wrote: Advance Auto Parts has Heet
(yellow bottle) on sale this week for *only* US$0.98 per 12 oz (355
ml)
Why do you mention this? Is heet methanol? If so, does the
HEET blue is Methanol. .98 is expensive try a dollar store or discount
store - I paid .69
Brian Rodgers wrote:
hey thanks.
yeah I caught that Kim pointed to the source but I was congtating you
for the test batch.
Anyway here I go again, Paul wrote: Advance Auto Parts has Heet
(yellow bottle)
Stop. Don't. Been there, done that. BD won't climb a wick. I got a
Kerosun with a wick running on about 40/60 BD/kero but it wasn't worth
the hassle. A gun or nozzle style works much better, or google OM-22.
It runs well on *good quality* BD cut with a little HHO1. It will run
but coke
Hey thanks
On 10/3/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HEET blue is Methanol. .98 is expensive try a dollar store or discount
store - I paid .69
Brian
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Hi as I figure this is almost $10.50 a gal
I get mine at a fuel oil supplier at $2.35 thats including the
taxes.
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You can get all the conversion info at onlineconversion.com
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Congrats
I too need to
Good luck!
Brian Rodgers wrote:
Hey thanks
On 10/3/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HEET blue is Methanol. .98 is expensive try a dollar store or discount
store - I paid .69
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this sounds like good advice
On 10/3/05, Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi as I figure this is almost $10.50 a gal I get mine at a fuel oil
supplier at $2.35 that's including the taxes.
So this brings me back to the original question.
How much lye and methanol is the average
I dont let it build up pressure I have
the top port open all the time it is hot. The rubber is not to much to wory
about I use o rings made of viton both on the shaft seal and the main opening. I
also keep the discharge valve closed so it wont siphon out.
From:
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I have removed the check valves on both
the inlet and exit and replaced them with hydraulic disconnects with a ball
valve behind to stop the flow when not wanted. I dont wory about the dessolving
of the lye. I just mix the heck out of it and when it cools to the point that I
can touch
I spent an hour trying to beat the price of methanol that I bought last
time, from a race car enthusiast, who sold it to me for $3.50 / gallon.
I called the local fuel / oil distributor, who has quite a monopoly in
this small town, and his prices reflect that fact. Their current
pricing is
There is a type of absorbent that will
only absorb water and water based products I used to have some at work along
with a sister chemical for only oil. But I work with some dumb people that didnt
read they used the water absorbent on oil spills and vise versa complaining
that the product
I make 120 L batches but only use about 1/2 in a week this is 6.35 gal
methanol and depending on the oil about 960 gr of lye per batch. So if I
drove twice as much I would use the # above. I hope this helps.
Derick
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'pends on how much you're making. I don't make much because I don't
drive much, each US gallon is roughly 800 ml Methanol and about 20 - 25
gams lye, depending on oil, so 5 gallons of BD is about 4 litres
methanol and 125 grams or so of lye.
YMMV.
Brian Rodgers wrote:
this sounds like good
Do it in litres - it's easier - 200 ml per litre.
Make it with some SVO first so you get a feel for how it works.
-Mike
Derick Giorchino wrote:
You can get all the conversion info at onlineconversion.com
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I believe that there are number of people on this list who have used
biodiesel in furnaces designed for heating oil. Might be something in
the archives from people who have done this.
On 10/3/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stop. Don't. Been there, done that. BD won't climb a wick.
There is a list devoted to this.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DO NOT ask *any* questions about anythng but gun-style furnaces - Becket
Riello and so on. If you ask
about BD in a Kerosun or anything not strictly related to furnaces, they'll rip
you head off.
Good luck!
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I believe
Keith Addison wrote:
Hi Mike, Brian
Depending on how much you want to make you can buy dry gas (methanol) -
I get it for .69 at a dollar store
How do you manage to cheat them out of 31 cents?
One type of DriGas is methanol, another is isopropanol, make sure to
get the methanol one.
www.hoeggergoatsupply.com www.caprinesupply.com have small
(like 2 gal) pasteurizers. Maybe you can find a farm supply that carries
something.
I did a quick google search - but everything that I
saw started at over $10,000! YIKES!
Good luck,
Kathy
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Greetings,
Here is where snowdrift farms get theirs,
http://www.boyercorporation.com/index.html
Bright Blessings,
Kim
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here is a link
Andrew, Keith
Thanks for the reply.
would u thinkit possible to use acid base method with OFM . I was thinking using two stage ofm first acid second base. I will use centrifuge for seperation. running at 1000 l/hr.
Any one know any usefull sites.
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iI live near Charleston, SC USA about 40 miles from the coast,/i so it
gets cold for a few weeks or a couple of months depending on your
definition of cold. Anyway heating season is about November to
March and natural gas prices are through the
I make 120 L batches but only use about 1/2 in a week this is 6.35 gal
methanol and depending on the oil about 960 gr of lye per batch. So if Idrove twice as much I would use the # above.I hope this helps.
Derick
Just wondering, why list liters per week but talk about methanol in
gallons? I assume
Is anyone familiar with any grants, (federal, preferably) for BD
research/production? I'm sure they are out there, I just need to find
them.
Also, does anyone know where to look for the tax-break info for
companies using BD, and what percentage BD they need to use to receive
the benefit?
And,
Hello John
Andrew, Keith
Thanks for the reply.
would u think it possible to use acid base method with OFM . I was
thinking using two stage ofm first acid second base. I will use
centrifuge for seperation. running at 1000 l/hr.
Any one know any usefull sites.
Have you made any biodiesel
i bought a 100 gallon pasturizer at a school that was no longer pasturizing
their milk. it seems the usda was making life unbearable for them. if i want to
pasturize our milk and put it in a bottle the usda said i need to spend $50,000
on an automatic bottler and another $30,000 for a bathroom
Quoting Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello Andrew, John
Quoting john owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi
I just finished designing and building a batch processor based on the
journey to forever 90 ltr processor I now want to design an ofm flow
tube.
Is there any other sites other
Quoting Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello Andrew, John
Quoting john owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi
I just finished designing and building a batch processor based on the
journey to forever 90 ltr processor I now want to design an ofm flow
tube.
Is there any other
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