Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:20:41 -0500From: Garth Kim Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/CountryTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowedGreetings,If you can tell me how to educate
i don't think there's anything about the context which implicitly leans
toward either legitimate government involvement from any number of agencies,
or
downright censorship. it was simply stated that the game had been banned on
ebay. most people would probably read that as suggesting that
i think you need to check your facts. :^)
-chris
Heck,
most Americans don't even know the proverbial Franklin stove (round
and made of steel) has nothing to do with Ben Franklin.
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According to the judgment of history and of their contemporaries, the
two foremost geniuses among the founding fathers were Thomas Jefferson
and Benjamin Franklin. But even geniuses make mistakes, and Franklin
made a lulu with the stove he invented. It just plain did not work.
In one of those
Chris, please add quotes, and provide a link when copying text from a
website. Not doing so implies you wrote the material. (If you wrote
the stuff on the website, my apologies)
http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story034.htm
give credit where credit is due. it's the right thing
Chris, please add quotes, and provide a link when copying text from a
website. Not doing so implies you wrote the material.
Sorry will do in future, It should have had the header, photo and
credits but they went when it converted to plain text Chris.
Wessex Ferret Club
Chris, please add quotes, and provide a link when copying text from a
website. Not doing so implies you wrote the material.
Sorry will do in future, It should have had the header, photo and
credits but they went when it converted to plain text Chris.
Please send all messages in plain text
and propaganda from sound evidence.
Tim
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Chris,
Given the context
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Chris,
Given the context the statement leaned toward either legitimate
government involvement from any
hardship.
Tim
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Greetings,
No, I do not yearn for Canada. Canadians
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Hi Tim,
You mean they don´t have Fox News and CNN in Missouri. Perhaps this
will help. When someone goes into another
en answers to that question available, too
Tom Irwin
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Tom,
Why do you quote 9th and 10th Commandment to me? I haven’t forced my religious views
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Tim,
Nothing really, neither size or methods, but it
is a matter of using foreign aid as a part of
foreign policies and control. US is mixing
Hi Doug and All,
The Atlantic Monthly had a great article (actually several) in it about how the dollar could slide 25% or more. Great cover, circa 1920, with a pair of legs in a business suit looking from the roof of a tall building asif ready to jump.
Tom Irwin
of
this activity can be interpreted as exploitation.
Tim Schlueter
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Hakan,
except the poor 'terrorists'. (but I do not condone terrorism, but I wish we
(as all the countries of the 'West' could understand the frustration that
drives radical acts such as terrorism.)
regards Doug
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 6:36, Hakan Falk wrote:
Doug,
It will be hard
Greetings,
No, I do not yearn for Canada. Canadians have their faults too, just
different ones. Me meek, not in this lifetime. It is true that the red in
my hair is more a memory than reality these days, I am used to standing up
for what I believe is right.
Actually the racism is what I
Greetings,
What you say is true, but how many Americans know their history? Ask most
Texans who won the civil war and they answer: Texas. While I do know that
Texans are not the same as American's, in most people's books, about half
of my neighbors are from California and they are no
Garth and Kim,
Maybe you should go out and educate some people to think otherwise.
The world will never become a better place if you just talk about it
online. Go out and help people notice their beliefs are so 1950s.
xoxox
hunt.
On 8/17/05, Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,
"The world will never become a better place if you just talk about it online."
Wow! What a provocative statement.
If:
1.) The internet is the most powerful resource forinformation and research in history.
2.) Thatit's strength comes from the collective contributions ofall human beings with
Greetings,
If you can tell me how to educate people who do not want to learn, I will
do so. I was extremely active in Literacy Volunteers of America for 12
years. I worked as a trainer in the Brazos Valley and I tried to run a
literacy council in Bedias, where the illiterate rate is over
The world will never become a better place if you just talk about it online.
Wow! What a provocative statement.
Yes!
If:
1.) The internet is the most powerful resource for information and
research in history.
2.) That it's strength comes from the collective contributions
of all human
However significant or subtle one considers the passing or information
to be, one cannot dismiss the fact that the internet has the capacity
to transmit that information to a larger number of people than face to
face contact can, at least until one reaches the point of having a
venue and an
Kim wrote:
If you can tell me how to educate people who do not want to
learn, I will do so. I own and run 2 yahoo lists...One on
sustainable building and one on renewable energy.
Kim,
Having students who don't want to learn is the hardest part of
being a teacher, especially a history
Greetings Marilyn,
You are not telling me anything I don't know, but you are totally
correct. Most people unfortunately get their ideas from
hollywood/television and think it is real. They are seriously unhappy when
you shatter their vision of the world and they tend to attack the
Hi Kim,
Don't let those secrets out Kim. You'll have more competition. Let them stay dumb and in debt. As far as knowing history, which history are we talking about? Are we talking about the history that says John F. Kennedy was killed by lone gunman Lee Harvey Oswald? Or the real History?
Harvey Oswald? Or the real History?
Tom Irwin
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Greetings,
What you say is true, but how many Americans know
hi michael.
I don't think I'm off base on this.
not sure specifically what you're referring to. but i wasn't trying to
suggest that by associating the two ideas (lone individual and anarchist)
you
were maligning anarchists or anarchism.
My statement/opinion simply said that an anarchist
Hi Kim,
A a nefarious politician once said, " The Devil is in the details ". We have to teach the truth to live sustainable. Fools will always suffer but I appreciate your great heart and dedication.
Tom Irwin
From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
i don't see how that statement would lead one to believe it was government
censorship. it has a certain conspiratorial ring to it, no doubt. not
entirely
unfounded, since there's a ton of stuff sold electronically/via download on
ebay. sounds as if not even the copyright holder(s) of the
: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:05 AM
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Greetings,
No, I do not yearn for Canada. Canadians have their faults too, just
different ones. Me meek, not in this lifetime. It is true that the red
in
my hair is more
Chris: "...but your comment made such a point of view conditional on being an anarchist."
After reading my previous post, I agree that it could have been interpreted that way. So I responded to that implicitly:
Mike: "If you thought that I was alluding to folklore, it was not meant that
would care to defend her
statement.
Tim
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i don't see how
Hi Tim and all,
You mean it's like Fox News and CNN but in reverse?
Tom Irwin
From: Tim Schlueter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:42:33 -0300Subject: RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/CountryChris,Given the context the statement leaned
Tom,
Not sure I understand. Please elaborate.
Tim
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Hi Tim and all
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i don't see how that statement would lead one to believe it was
government
censorship. it has a certain conspiratorial ring to it, no doubt. not
entirely
unfounded, since there's a ton of stuff sold electronically/via download
on
ebay. sounds
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Tom,
Not sure I understand. Please elaborate.
Tim
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Tim wrote
...Marilyn brought it to our attention. Perhaps she would care to
defend her statement.
Tim,
I first wrote about the cards in response to Hakan wondering
what kind of companies members of the Bush administration
come from. I remembered a year ago someone had told me how
many of
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Greetings,
What you say is true, but how many Americans know their history?
Ask most
Texans who won the civil war and they answer: Texas
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Tom,
Not sure I understand. Please elaborate.
Tim
, 2005 1:00 PM
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Earl,
Why I asked?
I am Swedish and have lived and worked in 8 countries including US,
worked in 25 and visited 60+ more. I found many things that I liked
and some things that I disliked in all of them. I can make myself
Hi Hakan,
We get those wonderful leaders from corporations and the military. The ones in the military are actually the pacifists since they´re actually been shot at and seen friends die forAmerica Inc.
Tom
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Bob,
Thanks for your concerns about me.
Yes you are right, there are many who has the capacity to compensate
lack of direct experience, with education and enough imagination.
There are many good places
d sensitive writings, and I do want to tell you how sorry I was to learn of your experience with the criminal elements. May this be your last contact with them. Regards, Bob Adams - Original Message - From: "Hakan Falk" To: Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Biofue
Greetings Hakan,
Lying in corporations is standard practice in North America. The normal
lie that is real common is: 'Anyone can shut down a job for safety
reasons.' I have heard this in many corporations in Canada and the US, but
I have also seen what happens when someone tries to shut
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Bob,
Thanks for your concerns about me.
Yes you are right, there are many who has the capacity to
compensate
lack of direct experience, with education
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Tim,
At 00:02 16/08/2005, you wrote:
Hakan,
What would you consider to be one example of a
successful country that delivers foreign aid from which the US could learn?
All the Scandinavian countries, UK, Germany, The Netherlands, Switzerland
)
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Greetings Hakan,
Lying in corporations is standard practice in North
to believe.
Tim
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Hakan wrote:
Wonder from which industries
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Greetings Hakan,
Lying in corporations is standard practice in North America. The normal
lie that is real common is: 'Anyone
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Hakan wrote:
Wonder from which industries they are coming?
Hakan, at the following website you can see their backgrounds
by looking at each card in a card game
Countries?
Tim
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Tim,
At 00:02 16/08/2005, you wrote:
Hakan,
What would you
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Tim,
Nothing really, neither size or methods, but it
is a matter of using foreign aid as a part of
foreign policies and control. US is mixing
"I was never told that it was un-Canadian to do for myself or to make things at home. I am criticized in this manner about once a week, here in Texas."
OK you have my attention.
ANY American who tells you that making something at home is un-American hasn't the foggiest notion ofthis
, 2005 1:40 PM
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Tim,
Nothing really, neither size or methods, but it
is a matter of using foreign aid as a part of
foreign policies and control. US is mixing their
foreign policy goals and corporate profits
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Why are these cards banned on Ebay? Perhaps it has to do
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Greetings Tim,
You are more than correct about many things. Few and far between are
the
honest humans, but there are a few. Fortunately for me, you can't pay
me
enough for me to work at anything that I can't be proud of. I have
never
Oh, man! I just wasted $20.00!!
Keith Addison wrote:
Why are these cards banned on Ebay? Perhaps it has to do with this
statement from Ebay:
Only copyright owners are permitted to sell items or products which
are intended to be delivered to the buyer by electronic download
through the
offended though I am interested in your perspective.
Tim
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Greetings
involvement?
Tim Schlueter
St. Louis
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Mike,
Where do I start?
First, I have a real problem
-trafficing and counterfeiting.
Tim
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Tim,
This is not really the question form and maybe many others
, August 15, 2005 4:27 AM
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Tim,
There are many of the top 20 industrialized who,
per capita, give more foreign aid than US. The
fact is that the most of them do. This both in
percentage of GDP and in absolute
mike,
in spite of common folklore, anarchism does not mean every man for himself.
sometimes referred to as 'libertarian' socialsim (as opposed to
'authoritarian' models such as communism), the basic tenet is the abolition of
the
detached, alienated authority of government and its
and disregard what they want.
Hakan
Tim
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Tim,
There are many
and disregard what they want.
Hakan
Tim
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Tim,
There are many of the top 20
The context in which it was written:
Doug wrote: "Impossible for the lone individual to protect their own basic rights."
My reply: "That's easy enough to believe (unless you're an anarchist)."Anarchism is a political view derived from the Greek áíáñ÷ßá ("without archons (rulers)"). Thus
: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country
The context in which it was written:
Doug wrote: Impossible for the lone individual to protect their own basic
rights.
My reply: That's easy enough to believe (unless you're an anarchist
experience with the criminal
elements. May this be your last contact with them.
Regards,
Bob Adams
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Earl,
Why
is on a path that recognized both in US and Japan.
Hakan
Tim
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Tim,
I
Schlueter
St. Louis
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Mike,
Where do I start?
First, I have a real problem with any
There may have been a misunderstanding in Baghdad. I suspect that the
people in Washington knew exactly what they were doing.
Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Hakan Falk wrote:
Iraq is the result of a misunderstanding, Saddam Hussein asked for
the US permission to
Well done Keith.
Earl wrote: "Socialism and true communism may have its value to some and will thrive in some places of the world, but I prefer not to live under it. Or at least, if I have to, please call it as such - The Socialist Unoin of America."
You prefer not to live under a model
Robert,
Thank you for the reminders - I forgot a few things
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You live in a country where you have the ABILITY to earn your money,
and you question the legitimacy of the government in taxing your income?
You live
Robert,
as a non-american, I totally agree with your sentiments. Government is for
the people, by the peoplenow where have I heard that before??
I think the worst thing that has happened in the last few decades is the
recognition of the corporation as a 'person' - which is why we cannot
, 2005 4:35 PM
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Earl,
Earl wrote: It seems to me that be requiring wealthy nations to
donate any portion of
their GDP is just another form of socialism, except on a global scale.
Giving it a name (i.e. socialism or ...ism), doesn't explain why
for the opportunity to explain myself.
Earl.
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Earl,
Earl
Hi all,
Don´t you all realize the definition of government? That´s where we put all the corruption in one place so we can keep an eye on it. It´s an animal that you watch carefully and shouldn´t feed very much in order to keep it´s natural search for more territory under control. Cute little
Hi Kinsley,
In your defense, the taxation in the United states used to be progressive, now it is not. That means that those with the least disposable income pay for the infrastructure of the wealthy. How many lower middle class and poor use aircraft on a daily or weekly basis to get around?
Keith,
I think you are confusing what I said. I perfectly agreed with you that the
U.S. is not a charitable organization, and does take much more than it gives
(here and abroad). I can't speak for other developing nations, as I have
only lived in the U.S. (answering Harkan's question in
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Robert,
Thank you for the reminders - I forgot a few things
It is true that many of the Constitutional framers never intended the
federal government to become the beaurocratic behemoth that is is today.
They would have probably have revolted by now if they were
robert luis rabello wrote:
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Robert,
Thank you for the reminders - I forgot a few things
It is true that many of the Constitutional framers never intended the
federal government to become the beaurocratic behemoth that is is
today. They would have probably
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Earl,
Earl wrote: It seems to me that be requiring wealthy nations to
donate any portion
Earl,
Why I asked?
I am Swedish and have lived and worked in 8 countries including US,
worked in 25 and visited 60+ more. I found many things that I liked
and some things that I disliked in all of them. I can make myself
understood in 5 languages, not including the Danish and Norweigian
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Earl,
Why I asked?
I am Swedish and have lived and worked in 8 countries including US, worked
in 25 and visited 60+ more. I found many things that I liked and some
things that I disliked
: Fri 8/12/2005 11:45 PM
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Mike,
Where do I start?
First, I have a real problem with any government (U.S., state, local) taking my
hard earned money (in the form of taxes) and redistributing it to others. Now
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Dale,
I don't mean to deflate your dream, but why do we need the government
beauracracy (of which the UN most certainly is) to guarranty these basic
human
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States/Country
Earl,
Earl wrote: "It seems to me that be requiring wealthy nations to "donate
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Where do I start?
Oh boy!
First, I have a real problem with any government (U.S., state, local)
taking my hard earned money (in the form of taxes) and redistributing it
to others.
You live in a country where you have the ABILITY to earn your money,
] The New Blue States/Country
This is a very wise and informed comment that Keith made, and I totally
agree. I hope someday that the UN will ingrain and apply four basic rights
for every human on this planet, and they are;
1) access to food
2) access to clean water
3) access to shelter
4) personal
Greeting Earl,
I'd love to see the U.S. stop meddling in other countries. Any chance you can get them to stop sending their 700 military advisors to the border of Peru and Bolivia with plans to ship a proposed division? While you are at it can you get the governemnet to stop wasting your tax
Earl,
Earl wrote: "It seems to me that be requiring wealthy nations to "donate" any portion of their GDP is just another form of socialism, except on a global scale."
Giving it a name (i.e. socialism or ...ism), doesn't explain why you disagree. Pleaseinclude something tosupport your
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Dale,
I don't mean to deflate your dream, but why do we need
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Mike
Joseph Stiglitz (and my father, who is a development economist) make
the following points:
Globalization is not going away, nor can we wish it away.
I don't know of anybody who does wish it away. I don't know why you
might think that I'd like to - because
comments, Dale
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Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:45:33 +0200
Dale,
It is difficult and 2% is a very high value. European countries have
I guess we are running into the same problem over and over again.
See ya.From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country - Tobin tax and commentsDate: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:49:31 -0400Have a lo
we are running into the same problem over and over again.
See ya.
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Have
that help entails.
Thanks for your comments, Dale
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Dale,
It is difficult and 2% is a very high
way, no matter what that help entails.
Thanks for your comments, Dale
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Dale,
It is difficult
Hello Mike
Joseph Stiglitz (and my father, who is a development economist) make
the following points:
Globalization is not going away, nor can we wish it away.
I don't know of anybody who does wish it away. I don't know why you
might think that I'd like to - because I said this?
It all
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:47:03 +0900 uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. I would have to say "I disagree!"the Netiq
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