Re: [SWCollect] PayPal Probes

2004-03-09 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 03/09/2004 10:02:07 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With all the discussion of PayPal on this group, I thought I'd point out this article (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/03/08/2357225.shtml) on Slashdot, for those that aren't regular readers.  It seems the F

[SWCollect] PayPal Probes

2004-03-09 Thread Lee K. Seitz
With all the discussion of PayPal on this group, I thought I'd point out this article (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/03/08/2357225.shtml) on Slashdot, for those that aren't regular readers. It seems the FTC is investigating them. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Leonard
tuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse This works now. Anyone who wants to see the pictures I took of CGExpo 2003 can go here: http://www.softwarecollectin

RE: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-16 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
Wow! It looks much better than Philly Classick. When's the next one? Stuart -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse This works now. Anyone who wan

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Leonard
This works now. Anyone who wants to see the pictures I took of CGExpo 2003 can go here: http://www.softwarecollecting.org/Pictures/CGExpo2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/05/2003 8:34:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.softwarecollecting.org/

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-05 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 10/05/2003 8:34:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.softwarecollecting.org/Pictures/CGExpo2003 I could not link, not found Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom an

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard stated: Speaking of which, is anyone interested in seeing my pictures of CGExpo? If anyone has interest, I'll put them online. Okay, they *should* be online here: http://www.softwarecollecting.org/Pictures/CGExpo2003 If there is a problem getting to them, let m

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-05 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard stated: > >Speaking of which, is anyone interested in seeing my pictures of CGExpo? If >anyone has interest, I'll put them online. Yes! -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-05 Thread Marco Thorek
Jim Leonard schrieb: > > Speaking of which, is anyone interested in seeing my pictures of CGExpo? If > anyone has interest, I'll put them online. Certainly, go ahead! Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are curre

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-04 Thread Jim Leonard
C.E. Forman wrote: I already went this year. B-) Whether I go next will depend on time, money, and whether my German collector buddy comes over here again. And if he does, whether he'll choose Philly or the one in Vegas. Speaking of which, is anyone interested in seeing my pictures of CGExpo?

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-04 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 10/04/2003 4:48:24 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to do a column article warning people about some of these loopholes, would you mind if I quoted you?  Won't identify you if you prefer, since I understand PayPal gets pissed at stuff like that.  Bu

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-04 Thread C.E. Forman
tuff like that.  But if you'd care to share any more scammers' methods that'd be great, we can help people defend against them.   Let me know.  TTYL!   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:31

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-04 Thread C.E. Forman
x27;[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse Tom,   I did catch that part. You are making me more and more nervous about Paypal. Add that to Chris being so anti-ebay and I think I will just join a monastery

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 10/01/2003 2:30:05 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did catch that part. You are making me more and more nervous about Paypal. Add that to Chris being so anti-ebay and I think I will just join a monastery somewhere and forget about buying games, collecting

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread AvatarTom
Another important point I was making is paypal must know of their problems, they just don't care. They stole that $88 from me because the person said the acct was hacked. I kind of beleive the person who said the acct was hacked, the hacker used the acct to pay more than one person, also hacked eba

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 10/01/2003 3:11:37 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to play Devil's Advocate, but I am going to put items online soon and wanted to accept PayPal.  If I insisted on delivery confirmation for everything that I send, and I pay for it myself, and told the

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread Jim Leonard
Not to play Devil's Advocate, but I am going to put items online soon and wanted to accept PayPal. If I insisted on delivery confirmation for everything that I send, and I pay for it myself, and told the customer that I would require delivery/signature confirmation in the auction description,

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread orat
>> I know I will never get a Mt. Drash or an Alakabeth anyway..   Aww..don't say that Stuart!   For a while I thought the same thing but good things do happen :)   Just don't give up!   Josh

RE: [SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
Alakabeth anyway.. *sniff* *sniff*.   By the way, anyone planning on going to Philly Classic this year? : )   Stuart -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:33 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SWCollect] Paypal, even

[SWCollect] Paypal, even worse

2003-10-01 Thread AvatarTom
Called them up today to verify what I thought about seller protection. As I thought ANYTHING CAN BE REVERSED IF NO DELIVERY OR SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION. Overseas, no transaction is safe since no verified address and no delivery confirm possible, NO PROTECTION, ANY TRANSACTION CAN BE REVERSED. Persona

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 08/08/2003 9:14:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope this strategy doesn't backfire on me... It's rough Stuart :( Bidpay is really good for ccard payments if buyer does not mind using them. I don't know what to do myself, the payment I got WAS a bank a

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread AvatarTom
Paypal Wall of Shame Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I will file a police report against them. You people really want to use a service that would do this to an honest person? Yes, because there isn't any other game in town. Same thing with ebay -- I won't use bidville because I'm not certain I wouldn't get a fair

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread Marco Thorek
They become trickier on all accounts (literally): I remember back when I signed up, there was something about them charging $1 to your credit card and when you received your credit card bill, you had to enter a code given in the PayPal position to activate your account. Back then that dollar was

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 08/07/2003 8:33:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31534.html Good article but it doesn't even cover what paypal can do a SELLER, just reverse the transaction, leave a with negative balance, then threaten with collecti

RE: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread Feldhamer, Stuart
uting the debit.   I hope this strategy doesn't backfire on me...   Stuart -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:59 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"In a message d

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-14 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 08/07/2003 8:33:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is just one very small story of hundreds dotted all over the Internet. And these stories will continue until either a) the law changes to pull in PayPal and force it to follow the laws and regulations e

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-10 Thread Dan Chisarick
My $0.02... I can't help but noticed that a lot of the auctions I've won lately don't take PayPal. I use BidPay in those cases (whose fees are a little stiff at times but checks are for all intents and purposes like cash. BidPay gives me proof of payment sent so its worth the extra $1 to me). I

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-10 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 08/07/2003 1:21:23 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Back then that dollar was put into your PayPal account balance, now they >apparently keep it. I don't remember them doing that when I signed up. They only do that with overseas accts I think. Visit my web

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-07 Thread Marco Thorek
I just found a very neat Register article regarding the "PayPal Money Back Guarantee," which is really worth a read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31534.html It ends with this paragraph: "This is just one very small story of hundreds dotted all over the Internet. And these stories will

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-07 Thread Marco Thorek
Hehe, we forever live and die, don't we? ;-) Marco Stefan Lindblom schrieb: > > I do raise my eyebrows and salute a fellow OMD fan, I thought we were > extinct by now :) > -- This message was sent to you because you are curren

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-08-07 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Marco Thorek stated: > >They become trickier on all accounts (literally): I remember back when I >signed up, there was something about them charging $1 to your credit >card and when you received your credit card bill, you had to enter a >code given in the PayPal position to activate your account.

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread Lee K. Seitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: > >recently I had guy in UK signup using my link. We were both >supposed to get $5 bonus. BUT paypal says for us to get the bonuses he has to >transfer $250 into his paypal acct first. And has to be from bank account. And >has to be US bank account. Paypal's policy fo

[SWCollect] Paypal fraud, further development, not good

2003-07-28 Thread AvatarTom
Appears when I agreed to paypal terms this was a part of them. They are saying I not only "owe" them the amount I got cheated out of, I may owe them recovery fees too. If I close acct I might get my credit rating screwed up. Damn it!!! When you receive funds through PayPal, if the sender's transac

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread Stefan Lindblom
I do raise my eyebrows and salute a fellow OMD fan, I thought we were extinct by now :) - Original Message - From: "Marco Thorek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 07/28/2003 7:56:48 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BUT paypal says for us to get the bonuses he has to transfer $250 into his paypal acct first. And has to be from bank account. And has to be US bank account. So basically overseas people who want bonus have

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread Marco Thorek
"C.E. Forman" schrieb: > > I notice the point at which PayPal started to suck seems to be right around > when the eBay blob absorbed them. Coincidence? Hell, no! They were not really fantastic before that, but it sure is getting even worse now. Marco --

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 07/28/2003 6:19:16 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Stefan again is right: Where to go if you leave PayPal? Well overseas payment can be a problem, yes. But there are alternatives. I think I am going to start using bidpay to recieve overseas payments. Ca

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread C.E. Forman
at which PayPal started to suck seems to be right around when the eBay blob absorbed them. Coincidence? - Original Message - From: "Marco Thorek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "pr

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread Marco Thorek
> Stefan Lindblom schrieb: > > This truly sucks, but what other useful options are there out there? > And especially for us not living in the US? Paypal have, until now, > been a great and fast way of paying for things, and I thought it was > very safe. But this brings everything into new perspect

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread Stefan Lindblom
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan" Note the part about SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION, delivery confirm not enough in some cases. If anyone decides to can paypal let me know, would warm my heart, they should not get

[SWCollect] Paypal "protection plan"

2003-07-28 Thread AvatarTom
Note the part about SIGNATURE CONFIRMATION, delivery confirm not enough in some cases. If anyone decides to can paypal let me know, would warm my heart, they should not get away with this crap :) "The transaction(s) did not qualify for Seller Protection because: -You were unable to provide tracki

[SWCollect] Paypal scam update

2003-07-27 Thread AvatarTom
Well it's official, they reversed the transaction in favor of the thief. So NO paypal transaction is safe for the seller (hate to think about the buyer, more on that later) Virtual items not covered by protection plan, EVER Services not covered by protection plan, EVER Shipped items only covered i

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-25 Thread Marco Thorek
Probably the latter Marco > "C.E. Forman" schrieb: > > Check the link again, they're gone. Either someone got them shut > down, or they grabbed the info they had and ran. -- This message was sent to you because you are curren

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-25 Thread C.E. Forman
Check the link again, they're gone.  Either someone got them shut down, or they grabbed the info they had and ran.   - Original Message - From: CcomputerGameCollector To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] P

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-24 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
Sadly, I bet many people fall for this sort of thing! - Original Message - From: C.E. Forman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ? Just for fun, I filled it out with some fake info

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-23 Thread Lee K. Seitz
CcomputerGameCollector stated: > >Anyone else get an email today saying something about a Paypal server = >problem, and asking you to "confirm" your information for safety? The = Nope, didn't get that one. It's not the first time someone's tried this and won't be the last. My favorite was when

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-23 Thread C.E. Forman
ginal Message - From: CcomputerGameCollector To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ? Anyone else get an email today saying something about a Paypal server problem, and asking you to "con

Re: [SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-23 Thread C.E. Forman
This is DEFINITELY a scam.  Anything that doesn't use a secure site (https) and end in paypal.com is not a real PayPal site.   - Original Message - From: CcomputerGameCollector To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: [SWCo

[SWCollect] Paypal scam Email ?

2002-11-23 Thread CcomputerGameCollector
Anyone else get an email today saying something about a Paypal server problem, and asking you to "confirm" your information for safety?  The link in the email takes you to http://www.paysupport.netfirms.com/index.html (no clue what that is), which has been designed to look just like a paypal

Re: [SWCollect] PayPal

2001-10-29 Thread Jim Leonard
"Try AOL quick cash Chris, the payER pays the fee which is the way it should be :) www.c2it.com" Why is this the way it should be? -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This mes

Re: [SWCollect] PayPal

2001-10-28 Thread AvatarTom
Try AOL quick cash Chris, the payER pays the fee which is the way it should be :) www.c2it.com

[SWCollect] PayPal

2001-10-28 Thread C.E. Forman
Hey, question for anybody else on this list who sells stuff regularly and takes PayPal... Is it just me, or has PayPal SUCKED lately? Their server is a sloth every time I log on, 50% of the time they don't bother to send e-mail confirmations when I get payments (this has caused me to incorrectly