Re: [Tagging] How to overcome lack of consensus

2013/9/19 Janko Mihelić : > 2013/9/18 Martin Koppenhoefer >> >> I think it is a bad idea to connect the meaning of osm tags to definitions >> in wikipedia, because the content of wikipedia articles is not something we >> control. When the wikipedia article changes (e.g. it gets extended or >> rest

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=musical_instrument

Well that one's easy to answer: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=music "A shop that primarily sells recorded music (vinyl/CDs)." Dan 2013/9/21 Bryce Nesbitt : > Why not "shop=music". The _instrument classifier seems overly restrictive > for stores that likely also sell sheet music, pa

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=musical_instrument

And British English too - but, that ship has sailed. Dan 2013/9/23 Bryce Nesbitt : > But in American English one does talk about a "shoe shop", even though all > that's on offer there are pairs of "shoes". > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openst

Re: [Tagging] Post vote clean up

I think you just need to delete this line: [[Category:Post-vote clean-up]] ? Dan 2013/9/26 bredy : > The proposal is this amenity=toilets > > > It'is in Approved and in Post vote list > > > > -- > View this message i

Re: [Tagging] Howto tag a play room

2013/10/1 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2013/10/1 Дмитрий Киселев >> >> How to tag them? >> As playground=playroom with some additional tags, or it's better to use >> individual leisure=playroom tag? > > > > > are you going to add an attribute to the supermarket or map the playroom > with its own geom

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: gambling

2013/10/5 Matthijs Melissen : >> There are currently various tags for gambling-related shops and amenities >> in use, including amenity=casino, shop=bookmaker, shop=betting, >> shop=lottery, and shop=gambling. See here for an overview of usage >> statistics: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index

[Tagging] Wind turbines: big and small

Hi all, One of the things I noticed at SOTM was that the Aston campus has two little wind turbines, perched on top of some of the buildings. They're quite small, yet the standard OSM style shows them even at zoom level 15, as if they're significant landmarks:

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

Yes, certainly in the UK at least there is a difference: there are routes I have seen where bikes are not allowed, *even if* dismounted and pushed. There are routes where bikes are explicitly allowed only if dismounted. bicycle=dismount is used over 23,000 times, and I believe routers like cyclestr

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013/10/16 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > >> Am 16/ott/2013 um 09:23 schrieb Volker Schmidt : >> >> This feature of JOSM indicates to me that there is most likely widespread >> use of bicycle=no on crossings with the meaning of bicycle=dismount. > > there is really no difference in meaning between bicy

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

2013/10/17 Martin Vonwald : > Hi! > > 2013/10/17 Pieren >> >> So, I'm looking if we could reuse the two existing tags >> or if I should create a sub-tag like "tourism=guest_house" + >> "guest_house=bed_and_breakfast" or >> "guest_house=whatever_in_an_independent_building" > > > +1 for the sub-tags

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013/10/19 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2013/10/19 Frank Little >> >> As others have pointed out, bicycle=no may have also been used by mappers >> to exclude bicycles not just to exclude cycling; I'd say we can't know what >> people meant (though I imagine mostly it will have had the meaning of 'no >

Re: [Tagging] Wind turbines: big and small

d they are towers. Best Dan 2013/10/7 Dan S : > Hi all, > > One of the things I noticed at SOTM was that the Aston campus has two > little wind turbines, perched on top of some of the buildings. They're > quite small, yet the standard OSM style shows them even at zoom lev

Re: [Tagging] tag for co-working spaces

2013/11/25 sabas88 : > 2013/11/25 Severin MENARD >> >> Hi, >> >> Seems this does not exist yet. Here is the taginfo situation >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=working_space#values >> >> What about a office=co_working_space or office=co-working_space? >> > Hi, > I'd prefer something lik

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - voting finished - man_made=lamp

2013/11/26 Tobias Knerr : > On 26.11.2013 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> This proposal was rejected >> according to our rules and I now set it to rejected in the wiki. > > The rules also state "All suggestions should be taken into account > before a proposal is approved or rejected." The a

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - voting finished - man_made=lamp

2013/11/26 Pieren : > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Dan S wrote: > >> Where can I read the rules? I searched the wiki for "voting" "tag >> proposals" etc and couldn't find them. > > On the "Proposed_features" main page. Thank

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013/11/28 Egil Hjelmeland : > I have to my surprise not been able to find any established practice for > tagging webcams on internet. I am thinking of cameras that display a place, > so you can click in to see the weather, snow conditions and such. As a > service to the public, not to Big Brother.

Re: [Tagging] Propose the tag shop=military_surplus

2013/12/6 Axelos : > Hello > > Le 05/12/2013 12:16, SomeoneElse a écrit : > >> Axelos wrote: >>> >>> >>> I proposed the tag shop=military_surplus for the shops selling used >>> military equipment. >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Military_surplus >> >> >> If you think that it makes sense to t

Re: [Tagging] Mechanical edit - Voting - Musical instrument (reminder)

2013/12/9 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2013/12/9 Matthijs Melissen >> >> Just to keep you up-to-date: the data working group has not responded >> yet to my request for approval of this mechanical edit. They have not >> indicated a time span they need to decide, or even acknowledged >> receipt, so at

Re: [Tagging] Topographic place names

2013/12/10 Andrew Errington : > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:26:55 Steve Bennett wrote: >> Hi all, >> My cycletouring map, http://cycletour.org, has been slowly morphing into >> a general topographic map[1]. One thing that's missing, though, is names >> for topographic features like mountain ranges, sp

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a terrace?

2013/12/13 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > Am 13/dic/2013 um 13:37 schrieb Fabrizio Carrai : > > The final results is [1] a multypoligon the includes few components, > including: > > A highway=pedestrian area, with black and white tiles marked as > surface=paving_stones (that's the one with the terrace

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a terrace?

2013/12/13 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2013/12/13 Dan S >> >> "highway=pedestrian area, with [...] surface=paving_stones" seems to >> tag it pretty well to me. > > > > those tags aren't on the relation that represents the whole object though. &

Re: [Tagging] How to map holiday flats? New tag "tourism=holiday_flat" or extend existing "tourism=chalet"

2014/1/3 Richard Welty : > On 1/2/14 8:31 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> I think of the word "flat" as being distinctly British. I have only >> rarely heard the word "flat" used to describe and apartment in the >> U.S. When I first glanced at the beginning of this thread I thought >> the OP was refer

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - trafficability

Hi, It reminds me quite a lot of opening_hours http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours Would that be appropriate? Dan 2014/1/3 BGNO BGNO > > Hi, > > I am proposing a new key: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trafficability > > Cheers > > BGNO > > ___

Re: [Tagging] How to map holiday flats? New tag "tourism=holiday_flat" or extend existing "tourism=chalet"

Sounds good to me too, nice and simple :) Dan 2014/1/6 Dave Swarthout : >> Personally I would go with tourism=apartment or apartments. > +1 > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> >> >> > Am 05/gen/2014 um 17:44 schrieb Dudley Ibbett >> > : >> > >> > Personally I w

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - Voting finished - Gambling

2014/1/19 Jörg Frings-Fürst : > Hallo, > > > On So, 2014-01-19 at 17:33 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> 2014/1/19 Matthijs Melissen > [...] >> >> Actually this is a formal reason to extend the voting period according to >> our standards. Being personally one of the approvers I do not want to

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - Voting finished - Gambling

I do not disagree... the system is imperfect, but such is life. 2014/1/19 Chris Hill : > Which just shows, yet again, how phoney and pointless voting is. > > >> >>I don't have a strong opinion on the proposal, but no big objections, >>so I've just added my yes vote in order that the voting thresho

Re: [Tagging] feature Proposal - RFC 2 - tourism = apartment

2014-02-16 8:29 GMT+00:00 Philip Barnes : > On Sun, 2014-02-16 at 07:06 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> >I would prefer the plural tourism=apartments. >> >> >> I prefer singular because the plural term explicitly states that more >> than one unit is available to rent while the singular implies only

Re: [Tagging] Architectural Monuments - ideas?

2014-02-17 12:58 GMT+00:00 nounours77 : > Dear Clifford, dear Pierren, > > thanks for your thoughts. Here some answers > > >> What/Who defines what is an Architectural Monument? When I think it is more >> along the lines of what Wikipedia [1] defines as a monument. > > No, I'm not (specifically) ta

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

Hi - In the past I've seen people use landuse=depot http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Ddepot Dan 2014-02-19 9:06 GMT+00:00 Pieren : > It's a small area with several buildings where the municipality is > storing vehicles and the maintenance and repair services. Someone > suggests t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

Any reasons not to use landuse=depot? Besides the sparsity of its wiki page... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Ddepot 428 instances in taginfo 2014-02-19 16:27 GMT+00:00 Tod Fitch : > For what it is worth, in the area I live in such facilities seem to be called > "corporate yards

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: tag for planetarium

Hi all, Well amenity=* has been something of a default choice in the past, so the definition is quite stretched from "community facilities" as the wiki puts it. There are some well-established tags that might be better as leisure=* or tourism=* if we were starting from scratch. So I'd suggest tour

Re: [Tagging] Hot springs

2014-03-03 12:53 GMT+00:00 nounours77 : > >> I have significantly changed >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hot_Spring >> with the intention to revive the proposal - thanks for any comments and >> enhancments. > > > Dear Richard, > > thanks for your initiative. I agree with

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-06 17:13 GMT+00:00 Robin `ypid` Schneider : > On 06.03.2014 10:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> 2014-03-05 21:25 GMT+01:00 Robin `ypid` Schneider : >> >>> There is no key öffnungszeiten, but yes it is only about the key >>> opening_hours. >>> As said before I am not going to change the mea

Re: [Tagging] What is OSM: a base layer for individual maps, or a fully featured geobased information system?

Hi - I'm afraid the answer is "neither". OSM is a database for geodata that is open-licensed, publicly verifiable and not short-term. This means it's more than just a base-layer. But it also means it's not a database for all possible geodata. We don't include holiday apartment reviews/ratings beca

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

Hi Andy, 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett : > Hello everyone, > > This is my first post to the list, which I've just joined, but I've > been a mapper for a few years and some of you might remember me as > compere at last year's State of the Map. And well done indeed! > Yesterday, I met wi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 22:17 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 01.04.2014 19:04, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> I commend this proposal to the list: >> >>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata > > I like Wikidata and therefore want to see this proposal approved. :) > > What I'm interested in, t

Re: [Tagging] Ticket for JOSM to read contact metadata closed

2014-04-02 18:25 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett : > Not only was I disappointed to see this ticket: > >http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9885 > > closed as "wontfix", but I don't understand the reason given: > >This format seems not to be used much. >Too much work for too little gain. > > not

Re: [Tagging] access=designated - what do we think it means?

2014-04-11 18:20 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > (2) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aaccess%3Ddesignated >> >> This is how I understood and have used it. > > > This is what the wiki says: > "Note that access=designated is not defining what is

Re: [Tagging] access=designated - what do we think it means?

2014-04-11 19:14 GMT+01:00 Vincent Pottier : > Le 11/04/2014 19:38, Dan S a écrit : > >> 2014-04-11 18:20 GMT+01:00 Pieren : >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: >>> >>>>>> (2) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aa

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 10:00 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Liotier : > Well... Private messages tell me that boules might be popular outside of > France, so here is a translation for a more international debate... > > According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dboules a > petanque pitch (leisure=pitch) i

Re: [Tagging] cleanup broken import "fix"

If I understand right you should probably ask imports@ not tagging@ about making bulk edits, even if they're to fix bulk edits! Best Dan 2014-05-28 21:53 GMT+01:00 malenki : > Recently I found some 10.000 (one of two changesets contained 38k) > objects tagged like this:¹ > | gnis:fcode=39004 > |

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits, building tags on nodes versus areas

2014-06-04 18:03 GMT+01:00 bulwersator : > I guess that push toward tagging POI as nodes is result of fact that in some > situations only nodes are processed properly (at least that is why I tag new > features in this way). I don't think it's a good idea to adapt your tagging practices to suit sys

Re: [Tagging] turning layers off

(not a "tagging" question really, but) Top tip: Ctrl-W in JOSM ("wireframe mode") makes areas show as outlines rather than tinted areas. Dan 2014-06-05 15:50 GMT+01:00 Matthijs Melissen : > Yes, in JOSM, you can use the Filters window. > > -- Matthijs > > On 5 June 2014 15:46, Tom Gertin wrote

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-06-05 21:31 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić : > 2014-06-05 17:25 GMT+02:00 Greg Troxel : >> >> As for style, I mean something as simple as dashed casings when unpaved, >> similar to a lot of exiting road maps. I don't think this adds clutter >> - there will just be a few pixels missing, and most peop

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

Roundabouts like this sometimes (in Britain) have "part time traffic lights". So, some times of day it is a true roundabout, and some times of day it is a circle of road with traffic signals! I don't know the one you linked, to but it's possible that is what is going on here. Dan 2014-06-13 16:54

Re: [Tagging] "No abbreviations in names" edge case

2014-06-18 15:35 GMT+02:00 Richard Welty : > On 6/18/14 8:28 AM, Florian Schäfer wrote: >> What about the homepage of the city [1]? There it says that "The actual >> name comes from the fact that our town site on a strip of Cherokee land >> famous for the Oklahoma Land Run. The name stands for *Ind

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-26 12:44 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > Hi, I wonder if this phrase without an explanation link > contains appropriate > instructions (or just press news): > > *Since the introduction of changesets these tags are often added as > changeset

Re: [Tagging] MyPlace self-storage facilities

I notice there are also 209 amenity=storage: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/amenity=storage/shop=storage/shop=storage_units/shop=self_storage Though I can't guarantee they refer to these self-storage places (could be private storage if not shop?), some of the UK items definitely are. And

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

Thanks for your work Mateusz! 2014-07-10 10:21 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : >> Am 10/lug/2014 um 11:19 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : >> >> I'd be careful with fishmonger vs seafood (is the latter OK for someone who >> only sells fresh water fish?) > > also shop=fish might be used for pets (fis

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=* (was: highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types)

2014-07-22 10:43 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > > On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote : > I have mentioned without much follow-up a similar issue with highway=crossing > + crossing=*. > What OSM calls "crossing", zebra stripes, is in fact a "passage pour piétons" > which does not necessarily cross. Why do

Re: [Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

Hi Dave, Not really an issue for the "tagging" mailing list - I don't think the people who maintain the style are on here. If you're talking about the main osm.org style then it's "openstreetmap-carto", maintained here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/ If you believe there's an

Re: [Tagging] How to tag road junction names and traffic signal names?

If place=hamlet is wrong, I believe place=locality is often used as a generic tag for nodes indicating named locations. Not really a solution but a simple option. Dan 2014-07-24 17:01 GMT+01:00 Lukas Sommer : > Yes, I know that junction=yes works fine for simple crossroads. My question > is: How

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:leisure=gym

2014-07-30 21:17 GMT+01:00 Andreas Goss : > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Dgym > > As far as I could see nobody touched this topic for quite some time so I > created a new proposal as this seems to be how native speakers use the word > today. It was also how native

Re: [Tagging] seafood vs fishmonger (was Re: Synonymous values in the shop key)

2014-07-31 11:02 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > >> Am 31/lug/2014 um 10:27 schrieb Holger Jeromin : >> >> The voting was performed "using the extended "North-American definition" >> - there including fresh water": >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/seafood_shop >> >> So i

Re: [Tagging] Research laboratory

Hi Pierre-Alain, That's a good question. I thought I'd search a couple of names to see how they are tagged. Here is a selection: INRIA (in France): * office=research http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2529263700 * office=government http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/124838923 * landuse=commercia

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

The sac_scale is about difficulty, not permission. I assume from Karsten's original message that only climbers are permitted to use those paths. If so, then access=customers is appropriate, and customers=climbers seems helpful... Dan 2014-08-07 9:50 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > Wouldn't it be better

Re: [Tagging] Climbing access path

2014-08-08 10:21 GMT+01:00 k4r573n : > On 07.08.2014 12:05, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> If I understand Karsten correctly, the limitation is not about payment, >> it is to limit the number of people using this path. This would be >> typical for climbing crags in >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cons

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-14 11:40 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > 2014-08-14 12:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Vonwald : > >> 2014-08-14 12:25 GMT+02:00 André Pirard : >>> >>> On 2014-08-14 11:08, Janko Mihelić wrote : >>> >>> Well first, tunnel=yes is obviously wrong. We need to replace this with >>> cave=yes. Other than tha

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-14 12:01 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > On 14.08.2014 07:29, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> I added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cave#Tagging_in_OSM how >> these may be mapped > > Given that you want to discuss wiki changes, you should start the discussion > before you actually do t

Re: [Tagging] separator for addr:housenumber=*

2014-08-18 15:04 GMT+01:00 fly : > Hey > > On the English wiki page [1] "comma" is the proposed separator for > several values of addr:housenumber. > > This contradicts our rule of using "semi-colon" as separator of values > and I do not have a clue why. Probably led by what users are already doin

[Tagging] interpolated housenumbers on single objects

Hi taggers, When mapping recently, I encountered many addresses which contain multiple housenumbers behind single entrances. I've used interpolation before, and used it in the "traditional" sense to map a range along a row of houses. But here we have an interpolated range on a single object, not s

Re: [Tagging] interpolated housenumbers on single objects

Hi, Thanks all for your thoughts. Will and Holger seem to have the same approach as me, which gives me the confidence to edit the wiki and at least document this approach: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#Buildings_with_multiple_house_numbers Hopefully I've done it in a way which won'

Re: [Tagging] interpolated housenumbers on single objects

2014-08-20 11:11 GMT+01:00 Ilpo Järvinen : > On Wed, 20 Aug 2014, Will Phillips wrote: > >> On 20/08/2014 00:02, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> > > Il giorno 19/ago/2014, alle ore 23:45, Will Phillips >> > > ha >> > > scritto: >> > > >> > > I find that by far the most time consuming part of survey

Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous surface=wood

I'd say it's very rare that "wood" could be interpreted as possibly meaning "woodchip". Woodchip has very different material properties, and different affordances for travellers. A little bit like saying "wood" might mean "sawdust" ;) surface=woodchip is used more often than surface=woodchips, tho

Re: [Tagging] separator for addr:housenumber=*

2014-08-24 11:05 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > On 20.08.2014 10:18, Holger Jeromin wrote: >> Andreas Labres wrote on 20.08.2014 04:10: >>> On 19.08.14 23:17, fly wrote: but 265-267 is wrong >> >> Read as "tagging 265-267 alone is wrong". >> >>> Disagree. addr:housenumber is the official num

Re: [Tagging] separator for addr:housenumber=*

2014-08-24 11:24 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > On 18.08.2014 22:36, Janko Mihelić wrote: >> What happens when the same entrance has two housenumbers, each from its own >> street? I'm sure this exists somewhere. > > The housenumber belongs on the building or building part, not the > entrance(s).

Re: [Tagging] separator for addr:housenumber=*

Hi Christian, As I've already mentioned, in the other thread we discussed a disambiguation. I would suggest that if you find only addr:housenumber=265-269 then you can't really assume any interpolation, and I would argue that even transforming it to "265" and "269" is going beyond what the dat

Re: [Tagging] default value for "oneway"

2014-08-28 14:45 GMT+01:00 Xavier Noria : > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Dave F. wrote: > >> I wish people in OSM would stop making things up, believing it makes their >> point of view stronger. > > What? > > I am not assuming one-way would be a better default. Nor I am assuming > anything abo

[Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

Hi all, I have been fixing some university tagging (Sheffield contained hundreds of amenity=university!). For student accommodation, I have been using for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + operator=* OR for sites: landuse=residential + residential=university

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-19 15:52 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 19.09.2014 14:22 Dan S wrote: >> for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + operator=* >> OR >> for sites: landuse=residential + residential=university + operator=* >> >> Note that th

Re: [Tagging] (Soapy) Massage Parlour

Hi - It looks like there's this tag, including a tag suggested for your specific issue: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmassage Best Dan 2014-09-21 4:23 GMT+01:00 Mishari Muqbil : > Hi, > > Thailand has these places called "entertainment complexes"[1] that > offers bathing + massa

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-21 0:49 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar : > On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:09 AM, wrote: >> >> Dormitories are rooms with multiple beds, usually bunk beds and associated >> with youth hostels, certainly not suitable for student accommodation where >> there is typically one student in a room, may

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-19 16:15 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-09-19 14:22 GMT+02:00 Dan S : > >> >> for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + >> operator=* >> OR >> for sites: landuse=residential + residential=university + ope

Re: [Tagging] (Soapy) Massage Parlour

s taking place in these establishments (for > example, you won't do shop=convenience+marijuana=yes in most parts of > the world). > > How about something like a combination of: > amenity=massage_parlour > male=yes > female=no > min_age=21 > > This should be quite accurate.

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - residential=gated

Hi all, Motivated by the discussion around residential=* sub-tagging, I thought it would be useful to get a bit more clarity, by taking some existing sub-tagging and putting it through RFC. Here is a proposal for residential=gated: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/residential%

[Tagging] RFC: Student accommodation building

Hi all, Following the tagging conversation about student accommodation buildings, I created a proposal wiki page, to document the different tagging perspectives, and maybe one day work towards half a consensus ;) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Student_accommodation_building

Re: [Tagging] (Soapy) Massage Parlour

2014-09-22 7:29 GMT+01:00 Stephan Knauss : > On 21.09.2014 11:04, Dan S wrote: >> >> It looks like there's this tag, including a tag suggested for your >> specific issue: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmassage > > please don't use

Re: [Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

2014-10-03 12:06 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-10-03 12:58 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : >> >> I agree that craft=chimney_sweep is less ambiguous than =sweep >> alone, and with currently 24 instances in taginfo it would be a >> good time to change wiki and tags. > +1 Yes, fine, I would say.

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

2014-10-03 18:14 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer : > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 2014-10-03 15:32: >> >> 2014-10-03 15:19 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer: >> >> I feel the need for a landuse tag for governmental / administrative >> use, >> maybe in the context of further civic use. >> >> We do have office

Re: [Tagging] cleanup of the key natural

Hi Martin, OK, well since you requested comments: Firstly, I find it difficult to understand what makes your proposed split more "coherent" or "easy to learn" than thewiki- grouping that you propose to revert! By the way please don't start a revert battle without first talking to that editor. Sec

Re: [Tagging] Default maxspeed unit on waterways

2014-10-29 14:07 GMT+00:00 Pieren : > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> km/h is derived, at least with an integer multiple of seconds, >> from SI units. mph and knots are not. I would prefer to keep >> one default unit per tag, consistently, everything else leads >> to confusi

Re: [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

Frederik, The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast I share your discomfort, since I think of a B&B as a different thing from a guesthouse. But over the years I've ended up using this tagging since it's documented and appears

Re: [Tagging] path vs footway

One of the most important differences is that for highway=footway, we know that pedestrians are allowed (unless other tags alter the access explicitly). With highway=path we can't always assume that pedestrians are allowed along it. I know there are routing systems that care about this difference.

Re: [Tagging] Pathways with steep vertical slopes, accessed via climbing chains

Hi - I don't have a direct answer I'm afraid. But please try not to think about "what gets rendered" - the default style shown on the osm.org homepage is just one of hundreds of rendering styles that are used. If there are existing tags in use, great, whether or not they show on the osm.org render

Re: [Tagging] Combining gas stations & convenience stores

Hi - It doesn't make sense to me to have a specific tag for "fuel and convenience". Maybe I misunderstand you. I would say, keep copying the addresses! There are lots of situations where multiple co-located items have the same address, e.g. a small post office inside a supermarket. If you invented

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Hi, The obvious question is: why not using leisure=playground? Since the definition in the first link you give says "an area where kids can play". Dan 2014-12-15 10:51 GMT+00:00 Dmitry Kiselev : > Hi > > We have > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Amenity_features#kids_area.3Dno.2Findoor.2Foutd

Re: [Tagging] pre-RFC: relation type=cluster/group

Hi - Does relation=site help? It sounds to me like a very similar concept: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Site Best Dan 2015-01-06 10:36 GMT+00:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > I was going to write a proposal for relation type=cluster > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Cluster

Re: [Tagging] pre-RFC: relation type=cluster/group

Oh, sorry, I see you mention it in the proposal. Still I don't see what would be bad about using "site" for the examples in your proposal, but I'll leave that there since you presumably feel differently. Dan 2015-01-06 10:18 GMT+00:00 Dan S : > Hi - > > Does relati

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Changeset messaging & Notes feature question

This appears to be nothing to do with "tagging" - you've presumably sent to this list by mistake... 2015-01-09 12:12 GMT+00:00 Dave F. : > On 01/01/2015 00:39, Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> On 01/01/15 00:36, Dave F. wrote: >> >>> I'm struggling to comprehend how a button to turn off the notes layer, >>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-15 11:53 GMT+00:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2015-01-15 12:43 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić : >> >> With addrN:*=* it's clear that the same place has two addresses. If there >> are two nodes, it seems like there are two places (Two entrances, two >> apartments, two rooms), each with it's own addr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-15 23:48 GMT+00:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > On 15.01.2015 13:10, Dan S wrote: >> The addrN scheme is really quite awkward > > Can you explain why you find it awkward? > > It seems to me that the displeasure felt with the addrN scheme is caused by > a phenomenon calle

Re: [Tagging] Ethnic shops

That's not a flaw - you've already given the solution in your own email: > Basically you want to label restaurants/shops only if they offer something > different from what's the typical local fare. 2015-01-16 13:23 GMT+00:00 Volker Schmidt : > This, and already the existing tagging for restaur

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

Hi - Yes, it's useful to go beyond lit=yes and lit=no. Some of those suggestions such as "poor" and "sufficient" are too subjective, as I think you already acknowledge. Not only are they value judgments but they depend on the user's perspective and needs, so please do try to avoid them. Some of t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-18 20:52 GMT+00:00 Markus Lindholm : > On 17 January 2015 at 22:16, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: >> With the addrN schema, we need one object (a node tagged shop=* and >> addrN:*=*) for a shop. >> With the provides_feature relation we need one node for the shop, one node >> for each address,

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

Now you're insulting the one person who was supporting you? Please STOP this thread everyone. Please. 2015-01-21 8:55 GMT+00:00 Никита : >> Just because one can use a regular expression to grep out a certain >> meaning doesn't mean it's a good thing to do and will always work > We easily revert th

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

2015-01-22 6:53 GMT+00:00 Marc Gemis : > It seems like the German community started some voting process on the > deprecation of the associatedStreet-relation (it was on the mailing list and > on the forum). > > Discussion is going on on the wiki > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Relation:ass

Re: [Tagging] Ethnic shops

2015-01-28 18:52 GMT+00:00 Eric SIBERT : > I started modifying the wiki following our recent discussion. > > For cuisine=*, I added: > "May also apply to other services that deliver food, like convenience." > > For shop=convenience, I added (in Tags used in combination): > "Stores selling specific

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

Hi, No big objections from me, sounds useful. However it occurs to me that it would be useful to have some way of indicating _what_ it is the reception for. For example, if it was part of a "site" relation*, then a role like role=reception would connect it to the larger entity in a meaningful way

Re: [Tagging] building=yes on nodes?

All building=* on nodes is fine. As others have pointed out, it is often necessary in HOT aerial mapping when we have low-resolution imagery to work from. Also, for humanitarian purposes there are serious uses for node-only buildings, for estimating the population or the population distribution in

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

Yes Mateusz, +1 from me, sounds good - Dan 2015-02-19 8:00 GMT+00:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > I think that attraction=maze is better than attraction:type (shorter, > without colon, "type" is not > really adding anything useful, clear detailing of tourism=attraction). > > 2015-02-19 3:59 GMT+01:00 Bry

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