Re: [Tagging] emergency=no on hospitals is ambiguous

On 03/11/19 18:51, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Hello list, I don't know is anybody wrote about this before, but I have noticed that the emergency tag changes meaning on hospitals and the result is weird: emergency tag indicate whether an emergency vehicle has access to the way/point, but on

Re: [Tagging] Billboard or something else

On 30/10/19 19:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 30 ott 2019, alle ore 08:05, Johnparis ha scritto: I'd go with traffic_sign=variable_message these aren’t traffic signs, a common, although underspecified tag is man_made=gantry (subtagging the type of gantry

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

? Puzzled as to; estuary = tidal mount of a large river? As defined by the Oxford Dictionary. Why not tag tidal - that can be applied to many things not just large rivers? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tidal No need for yet another key? Or is there another definition of estuary? On

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Access Aisle

On 25/10/19 06:12, Clifford Snow wrote: I'd like to propose a tagging scheme to tag parking lot access aisle. Access aisles are marked areas often used between handicap parking spaces but also used to indicate pedestrian access between parking spaces. The proposal can be found on the wiki

Re: [Tagging] tagging extremely large flood control features.

On 25/10/19 00:20, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I think describing these as "flood prone" in some way is a good idea. I think it would be better to use "flood_mitigation" as that implies deliberate design rather than natural event. I imagine you've already mapped the individual features: the

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating mini_roundabout

On 23/10/19 21:44, ael wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:55:04AM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: I would suggest it is not necessary to replace the simple node with a circular way. I think it is perfectly acceptable if it is considered as a simple turn instead of negotiating a roundabout, from a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

On 21/10/19 09:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I'm in favor of deprecating contact:phone now (and the other contact:XXX duplicates later), but I don't know about your other proposed changes. For example, requiring the country code in all phone numbers would not be standard practice in Indonesia or

Re: [Tagging] Areas of bare soil (clay, silt, loam) such as badlands?

On 20/10/19 11:19, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: How should areas of bare soil, such as badlands, be tagged? Currently there are documented tags for dry areas of bedrock, stones and sand: natural=bare_rock, natural=shingle, natural=scree, and natural=sand For tidal areas, beaches and wetlands

Re: [Tagging] Tagging forest parcels

On 16/10/19 19:08, David Marchal wrote: Mateusz, The first thing is that this tagging scheme is mainly used in Poland, so that sounded like a local, not widely approved, tagging scheme. The second thing, which is the real problem to me, is that I don't see how to link these with the forest,

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

On 14/10/19 18:28, Peter Elderson wrote: brad: There are several variations and gpx tracks available on the net for the great divide route. There are also many websites which discuss the route and show maps.   It's in the public domain. I've looked at the info for the Great Divide

Re: [Tagging] Removal of rendering for waterway=wadi

On 14/10/19 17:58, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It is proposed to remove the rendering of waterway=wadi from Openstreetmap-carto, the style used in the "Standard" layer on openstreetmap.org - see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3931 As discussed back in January 2015, the tag

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

On 14/10/19 07:26, Volker Schmidt wrote: (disclosure: I am academic member, but express my personal view) The Great Divide route is, to my knowledge, not signposted. The source for thr route is most likely either a GPX track from ACA or a map set from ACA,  which has their copyright on it. aca

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

On 12/10/19 20:13, John Willis via Tagging wrote: On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: A new route_type= tag on the relation would be a good way to go. Route= cycle_touring road_touring cyclist road_cyclist road_cycling ? I think the word “race” should be left out, unless

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

On 12/10/19 03:28, Phyks wrote: Hi, I've found similar issues in France recently. Cycling routes is too broad and diverse and covers various realities. From a rendering perspective (disclaimer: I'm one of the maintainer of the new CyclOSM rendering style, https://cyclosm.org), it is very often

Re: [Tagging] Cycling relation misuse

On 11/10/19 18:04, John Willis via Tagging wrote: Questions about using cycle relations properly: I am mapping and repairing cycle roads in the Kanto/Tokyo area. There are a lot of designated cycling roads that follow a long rivers and other water features out into the countryside, making up

Re: [Tagging] Divided highways, and not so divided highways, one way or two

On 10/10/19 20:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 10. Okt. 2019 um 08:40 Uhr schrieb Frederik Ramm mailto:frede...@remote.org>>: The original mapper claims that using two separate oneway=yes ways is clearer and easier, as it does away with the need for turn restrictions at

Re: [Tagging] railway crossings with cycleways

On 10/10/19 01:07, Vɑdɪm wrote: On the other hand the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic mentions crossings for cyclists separately (https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/conventn/Conv_road_traffic_EN.pdf): 3. (a) The standing or parking of a vehicle on the carriageway shall be prohibited:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

On 09/10/19 21:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 9. Okt. 2019 um 12:46 Uhr schrieb Vɑdɪm >: Otherwise, as pointed out earlier by some people, in some contexts you'd sunbath nearly everywhere. ... In this picture you'd see 2 different

Re: [Tagging] Tagging forest parcels

Similar problems with other features. Possibly use a site relation? Map each individual parcel as a simple way with the reference. Then place each parcel into a site relation and then the common tags on the site relation. Something like that, look up the site relation on the wiki for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

On 09/10/19 20:58, Vɑdɪm wrote: Warin wrote Humm.. don't think any place here is 'designated' for sunbathing. Who has done this 'designation' for sunbathing? Actually there are some. Please have a look at the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sunbathing#Examples

Re: [Tagging] How to map Irish pubs?

On 09/10/19 12:11, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 08:46, Jmapb via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: On 10/8/2019 6:20 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Bit of an awkward one, but there are pub's in Northern & Inland Australia that white people

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Phone)

On 07/10/19 21:00, Valor Naram wrote: > One problem with enforcing a single tag by mappers or preprocessing > data before putting it in the database is that if there are subtle distinctions they are > forever lost. Sven gave us a list of tags which have exact meaning. So no distinctions. No

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

On 08/10/19 20:27, Vɑdɪm wrote: Considering the responses it may be better to give a more definite criteria for using this tag. In this regard the definition of leisure=sunbathing as *any* popular place suitable for sunbathing looks rather vague. It could be more easily also used as a trolltag.

Re: [Tagging] How to map Irish pubs?

On 09/10/19 09:45, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: On 10/8/2019 6:20 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I was wondering about the same thing, because you've then also got Country & Western, German, any & all varieties of Gay ... ? Bit of an awkward one, but there are pub's in Northern & Inland

Re: [Tagging] Guard booth building type

On 07/10/19 18:59, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: “Booth” implies that one wall is missing (open).   A guardhouse would be more completely enclosed, I think. So either could work, depending on the building design. Would be preferable to have a tag that has no implied restrictions. Possibly

Re: [Tagging] railway crossings with cycleways

On 05/10/19 09:58, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: sent from a phone The wiki defines railway=level_crossing as a crossing of rails and a road, while railway=crossing is for a pedestrian crossing

Re: [Tagging] Colby's "Instructions for the Interior Survey of Ireland" (Was: Strange tags)

On 01/10/19 09:00, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 30/9/19 22:42, Philip Barnes wrote: Which is how we end up with River Avon, avon (afon in welsh) meaning river hence River River. At least they asked. In Australia it was a bunch of white guys traveling around saying: that's Botany Bay, that's

Re: [Tagging] How to map a homeless encampment/colony?

On 30/09/19 08:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29. Sep 2019, at 16:48, Michal Fabík wrote: Technically speaking, it could be considered a special case of a landuse=residential because the people sort of _reside_ there, only there are no residential buildings and the

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

On 30/09/19 03:24, Jan Michel wrote: Well... There is no documentation of these tags in the OSM wiki. ael mentioned that these are well-known terms. I tried several translators and dictionaries but didn't find anything. A Google search only finds the wiki "List of mountains and hills on the

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

On 27/09/19 21:52, Paul Allen wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:02, Marc Gemis > wrote: so disused:amenity=pub ; building=pub (it looks like a pub); building:use=house (or is it :usage?) Erm, I can't think of any pub I've ever been in or past that was in a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=indoor

On 27/09/19 03:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 26. Sept. 2019 um 19:03 Uhr schrieb Markus mailto:selfishseaho...@gmail.com>>: BTW, i find it very strange that there is a separte highway=* tag for indoor "flat ways" (i.e. corridors), but not for steps. Any reasons for

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

On 27/09/19 02:15, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:49, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: Paul Allen wrote: > BTW, that's on national cycle route 82, so whether or not it really is > a pub would be of interest to some mappers. Oh, has that

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

On 27/09/19 09:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 02:52, Kevin Kenny > wrote: I've also mapped things like 'disused:amenity=prison landuse=brownfield' for a now-closed prison that the state is trying to find a buyer to

Re: [Tagging] [Key:phone] - Suggesting wiki page changing

On 26/09/19 05:34, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-09-25 21:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: before number portability was introduced, a landline was more connected to a place than to a person/business, while mobile phones always have been personal. Big companies may be different, but places with

Re: [Tagging] Was there every a proposal for the disused:key=* / abandoned:key=* lifecycle prefixes?

Somewhat off the topic of  'was there a proposal for' .. but follow the distorted thread.. disused:*=* means it cannot presently be used for its intended purpose. That does not mean it does not exist. How renders chose to display that is up to them. But the tagging is correct and truthful.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging ideas for a non-profit ”course center”

On 22/09/19 16:10, Jyri-Petteri Paloposki wrote: On 22.9.2019 1.52, Warin wrote: There are similar places , mostly to run corporate training events .. for example Baskerville Hall Hotel, http://www.baskervillehall.co.uk/ Way: Baskerville Hall Hotel (502969627). Tagged as a Hotel in OSM. You

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - for the key to use with the value mounting block

Hi, Request for votes on the _key_ to use with 'mounting blocks'. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/mounting_block These are normally used to mount horses, they could be used for other animals .. and probably other things too. I would rather have some though given

Re: [Tagging] Tagging ideas for a non-profit ”course center”

There are similar places , mostly to run corporate training events .. for example Baskerville Hall Hotel, http://www.baskervillehall.co.uk/ Way: Baskerville Hall Hotel (502969627). Tagged as a Hotel in OSM. You can camp there, and they have conference rooms too. Tagged as a hotel in OSOn

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On 20/09/19 16:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 20. Sep 2019, at 02:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Why not landuse=agriculture? As a broad brush it could do well. Could includes all types of agriculture practice. we already have a broad brush for this

Re: [Tagging] Motorcycle taxis, pedicabs

On 19/09/19 15:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 13:57, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is "pedicab" the best British English / International English term for these hired tricycles vehicles? That's what I've always known them as.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On 19/09/19 18:49, Volker Schmidt wrote: we may have to byte the bullet and allow semicolon-separated values for landuse. Specific word combinations are not a good solution OSM uses landuse=residential as a broad brush that includes recreation and commercial uses. It includes various

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

On 19/09/19 07:02, Steve Doerr wrote: On 18/09/2019 18:57, Steve Doerr wrote: Sounds like a road-train to me. Actually I've reallized that the expression I was looking for was 'land train'. I don't think so ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_train Both 'road tarin' and 'land

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Campsite properties

On 18/09/19 09:02, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 23:46, brad > wrote: I think it's valid tag for a campsite, I think it can be, on larger camp sites, which have several washing machines in a dedicated building.  It's not much different than

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Campsite properties

On 18/09/19 09:08, marc marc wrote: Le 18.09.19 à 01:02, Paul Allen a écrit : Those machines are generally available for use only by people staying on the site (they could accept anyone, but usually do not).  How are you going to tag that?  We don't have access=campers access=private

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Campsite properties

On 17/09/19 16:29, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I didn't think shop=laundry would work for a laundry room at a campsite. But I suppose washing_machine=yes/no + dryer=yes/no is good enough for 99% of cases.a Also features at hotels/guest-houses etc... no reason to limit them to camp sites.

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

On 17/09/19 04:11, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:25, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: is "motorcar" a term that is common in British English? Not much. How do you tag the generic bus class in Britain? Is there such a thing?  There are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - appointment

On 15/09/19 01:59, Ruben wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:59:29 +1000, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: 'opening_hours="By appointment, phone "' (the ### is the phone number that I don't recall of the top of my head. I think this is more versatile than yet another va

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Where does it stop - RFC - Reusable packaging

On 12/09/19 21:52, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Do we really want to go into that effort of trying to actively represent what products are sold and under what conditions? Do we even have a remote hope of achieving a level of completeness and timeliness that makes this usable? Where does it stop?

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features / landuse=open_defecation

On 13/09/19 12:13, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Thanks for working on this, Bob, Check out the page "Proposal_process" and in particular Proposal_process#Creating_a_proposal_page to help improve the formatting and make sure you've included important information. Please clarify exactly what should

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

On 11/09/19 15:47, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 11 Sep 2019, 01:54 by pla16...@gmail.com: On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 23:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Would it need a multipolygon? My impression of the ODA is an open patch of ground in / beside

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - appointment

The key 'opening_hours' has a free from text entry facility. I have used this where a museum is open by appointment only thus 'opening_hours="By appointment, phone "' (the ### is the phone number that I don't recall of the top of my head. I think this is more versatile than yet another

Re: [Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome

On 10/09/19 17:35, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome This proposal uses aerodrome=* for classification of an aeroway=aerodrome as an international airport, other commercial airport,

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas Add disused or abandoned

One important thought. Past open defecation areas will need to remain mapped... but not as areas in use. I think these are clearly life cycle tags .. but disused does not appeal as it is unlikely that it could be used again until quite some time has past (pun sorry) abandoned might be

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

On 09/09/19 18:20, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 09.09.19 02:37, Warin wrote: Quote: "Open Defecation, people going to the toilet in the open, specially in dense urban areas. Open defecation areas ODA are use by about 850 million people. If they each use 10 different areas a

Re: [Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

On 09/09/19 11:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Would you also tag the area as hazardous / contaminated? Unfortunately I think that is a default condition. All the more reason to map them with suitable tags. ___ Tagging mailing list

[Tagging] Open Defecation Areas

From  a current posting on the HOT list is for Open Deification Areas. Quote: "Open Defecation, people going to the toilet in the open, specially in dense urban areas. Open defecation areas ODA are use by about 850 million people. If they each use 10 different areas a year then that is 8.5

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

On 07/09/19 19:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 7. Sep 2019, at 09:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Per taginfo, building=yes is used 7500 times with leisure=pitch, and covered=yes is used 1017 times, so I suppose it's more common to match the pitch with the same outline as

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On 08/09/19 01:24, Iago Casabiell wrote: Well, as there is no clear consensus in how to classify between hamlets, villages, towns and cities, i'd tried to move the debate as best i could. My goal would be to create a default algorithm to classify these places, but as jeisenbe pointed out,

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a milk_shake shop?

On 06/09/19 15:21, Andrew Harvey wrote: I'd tag it as amenity=cafe, even without selling coffee They sell coffee too, and hot chocolate and sweets... as well as milk shakes.. I still think it fits into https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=cafe, just with a cuisine tag to

Re: [Tagging] Education on topic for music schools

tin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 5. Sept. 2019 um 09:59 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: Pardon me. The question is about music schools and how to tag them - they are educational facilities. ... See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternativ

Re: [Tagging] amenity=music_school vs amenity=college?

On 05/09/19 17:55, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Paul Allen, if you know how the tag amenity=college is used in the UK, please update the wiki page with more information. Right now it's not entirely clear if the "sixth form" colleges should be amenity-college.

Re: [Tagging] Education on topic for music schools

, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 5/9/19 3:18 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Are music schools a type of amenity=college or should they be their own tags? Education should have its own key. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alter

Re: [Tagging] amenity=music_school vs amenity=college?

On 5/9/19 3:18 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Are music schools a type of amenity=college or should they be their own tags? Education should have its own key. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternative

Re: [Tagging] Walking & Cycling Node Network tagging: undoing the hijacking of rcn and rwn

On 5/9/19 2:42 am, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Elderson wrote: The network values identify transport mode and scope of routes, and these "dimensions" also apply to node networks. We do not want to add another dimension (configuration type) to the network=* values of routes. Instead, we are

Re: [Tagging] Hill figures

Not all of them are on hills. Marree Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marree_Man Possibly artwork=geoglyph ??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoglyph** * * On 4/9/19 8:49 am, Andy Mabbett wrote: In the UK, hill figures include: * The Cerne Abbas Giant [1], [2], [3] * The Fovant badges

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Dehesa

On 4/9/19 12:48 am, Diego Cruz wrote: Does anybody know about other areas in the world where there is an extensive mixed use of territory? Way: Woomera Prohibited Area - Defence Infrequent Zone (544274312) Some of this area is also 'used' for cattle grazing... by farmers. The farms

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - sunbathing

In Australia most people 'sunbathe' on a beach of sand. Some 'sunbathe' in their own backyard. High rates of sun exposure gets 'melanoma' and there are publicity campaigns to get people to cover up from sun exposure. It is not something that would be mapped in Australia .. you can 'sunbathe'

Re: [Tagging] How to tag flood prone points and areas?

;flood_prone=yes" is verifiable and helpful to add, since that's representing a feature that can be checked when the area is next survey. On 9/1/19, Paul Allen mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 05:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <ma

Re: [Tagging] How to tag flood prone points and areas?

On 1/9/19 10:30 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 20:51, Paul Allen > wrote: Verifiability is a problem. Near here, there's one office building built lake-side, that has a car park as the ground level of the building. The car park has a

Re: [Tagging] What sport=* for automobile racing?

On 31/8/19 9:49 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: With highway=raceway, the most common tags are sport=motor, sport=motocross and sport=karting (and even some sport=rc_car for remote controlled model cars). These are specific types of motorsport, except for "sport=motor", which can include

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Cash withdrawal

I think the 2 week time frame is to allow for someone on holidays (of ~ 2 weeks) to be able to see things and respond. As such the 2 weeks is a minimum not a maximum. Indeed there is no maximum for RFC nor for voting. However if there has been no activity for some time (months?) then some one

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - protection_class=* (Words, not numeric codes)

On 29/08/19 09:21, François Lacombe wrote: Le jeu. 29 août 2019 à 01:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> a écrit : I've just had a quick play on TagInfo & protect_class & protection_title, plus a couple of others, all refer to protected areas of one type or

Re: [Tagging] New proposal draft to simplify the mapping of farm buildings (stables)

On 29/08/19 09:45, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Re: > "The best I could come up with was landuse=farmland + produce=live_animal + animal=chicken" It's more common to use landuse=farmyard for poultry farms, and if you use produce=* it's more common to specify eggs, meat or live_animal=* depending on

Re: [Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

On 26/08/19 21:27, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 04:52, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: There seems to be confusion about what the key "landcover" means, because recently there have also been pages created for landcover=water and

Re: [Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

On 26/08/19 23:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Yes, I agree that for something like landcover=hedge an even stronger warning is needed. Some context for why Warin and I are talking about this: The second section of the key page Key:produce has long mentioned the differences between produce

Re: [Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

On 26/08/19 20:36, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 26 Aug 2019, 12:31 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 26/08/19 20:22, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 26 Aug 2019, 05:51 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com : This also brings up the question: is it

Re: [Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

On 26/08/19 20:22, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 26 Aug 2019, 05:51 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: This also brings up the question: is it appropriate to edit pages like this to mention the more common tags at the top, e.g. natural=dune, natural=sand? Yes. Especially in cases of tags

Re: [Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

y have been me placing produce there.. caution is advised! It is not easy to strike a good balance. (Note this is not a tagging issue... perhaps better on the main talk page?) On 8/26/19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi There is a wiki entry for 'landcover=dune'.

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone

On 26/08/19 05:48, marc marc wrote: Le 25.08.19 à 16:55, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : What about deprecating the contact: prefix, at least for phone? not "AT LEAST FOR" that's the main issue ! having some contact with contact: prefix and some other without is a very bad idea. we need to

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

On 26/08/19 00:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 25. Aug 2019, at 07:20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Type 'phone' into the OSMwiki search box and you get redirected to the key 'phone=*'. This gets preferential treatment to the key 'contact:phone=*'. seem

Re: [Tagging] Parking spaces for car charging

amenity=charging _space? Says what it is. On 26/08/19 08:52, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 23:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 23:53, Paul Allen mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote: So it looks like, for the charging

Re: [Tagging] Document personal tags in Proposed_features/ space, User: space, or Tag:/Key: space?

Misuse of a key/tag happens. Some guidance should resolve the issue. First lets outline the problems this user has with the present tagging advocated by some here using the example: natural=dune 1) It may not be natural. The key natural is,

[Tagging] landcover dune or land form dune

Hi There is a wiki entry for 'landcover=dune'. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landcover#Landcover_tags_and_related_tags It has 0 uses in the data base. There is an existing tag 'natural=dune'. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Ddune To me dune is

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

On 25/08/19 15:02, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Getting back to the original example, phone=* was proposed first and voted on in 1/2008 - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Phone - the tag was rejected. Some people at the time did not think that OSM should contain phone

Re: [Tagging] How to distinguish public and private offices?

On 23/08/19 07:18, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:52, Philip Barnes > wrote: You can usually walk into a hairdressers to make an appointment and if they are not busy they will not turn you away. Its just those with an

Re: [Tagging] bear box in campground ?

On 22/08/19 10:25, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:23 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is there a requirement to tag these 'animal resistant boxes'? Would a more universal tag be better? I've generally heard th

Re: [Tagging] Cash_withdrawal draft

On 22/08/19 07:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Commenting in both places Not a bad idea as it would be handy to know that you can get cash out "here". Some potential issues I can see though. How much can I get out ($100 max)? A supermarket cashier may be able to give me $500, but a corner

Re: [Tagging] bear box in campground ?

On 22/08/19 07:03, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 21.08.2019 19:44, Rob Savoye wrote:    Many western state campgrounds have metal bear proof food storage boxes in each campsite, but not all of them. At certain times of the year this can be important. :-) Around here the bears will destroy your car if

Re: [Tagging] bear box in campground ?

On 22/08/19 08:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 08:02, Rob Savoye > wrote: > We should probably add both of these to the proposed list of > campsite property tags at   That's be a good idea, as bear boxes are becoming more and more

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

On 20/08/19 18:38, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Kevin Kenny wrote: There's also something to be said for using the ugly editors to prove the concept, because at this point, we don't yet know how to do everything, much less how to make it novice-friendly! The exception is simple linear routes, and

Re: [Tagging] JOSM is the A10 of editors ? (was: Roles of route members)

On 20/08/19 19:14, Andrew Davidson wrote: Thank you gentlemen, that has made my day. Maybe JOSM is the A10 of editors. It's old, it gets no respect, and it's as ugly as sin. Yet it still does the job better than everything else. Not sure what type of planes the other editors are. For

Re: [Tagging] Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, route=hiking, route=foot and Walking routes

On 20/08/19 17:48, s8evq wrote: On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:34:20 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: A map with copyright permitting OSM to make use of its data. There are several walks near me which appear on maps published by the county council or tourist board. Copyright does not permit me to make use

Re: [Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

to go? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op di 20 aug. 2019 om 05:49 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: On 18/08/19 00:07, Peter Elderson wrote: > In this case, I do NOT want to go from A to B. I want to do the hike, > that is

Re: [Tagging] Livestock=* to specify the livestock animals in a farmyard or meadow?

First. What is to be mapped? The presence of animals? Or The animal output of a agricultural feature? Once I have that answer I can respond to that issue rather than provide multiple answers that confuse. The first post talks of both presence and output, while the subject says presence.

Re: [Tagging] Branched and alternative roujtes

On 20/08/19 00:11, Kevin Kenny wrote: (Summary: What do the data *consumers* want to see in the tagging for route alternatives, circular routes, and routes that begin and end on dual carriageways?) On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 3:47 AM Sarah Hoffmann wrote: We do happen to have a clear rule for

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

On 19/08/19 21:14, ael wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 05:21:22PM +0900, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Interesting! I remembered a problem with "trade=*" - it's already been used almost 5000 times to specify the type of trade goods sold at a shop=trade - see

Re: [Tagging] Signposts in Roles of route members

On 19/08/19 18:50, Volker Schmidt wrote: Let me also introduce a further complication in the "sorting" discussion for hiking and cycling route relations. Some mappers like the idea to keep signposts in the same route relation as the ways making up the route. This strategy has been adopted in

Re: [Tagging] Livestock=* to specify the livestock animals in a farmyard or meadow?

On 19/08/19 20:17, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: What is the best tag to specify the livestock animals in a farmyard or meadow? I checked, and currently a number of farmyards are tagged with farmyard=*, but most values describe the feature, like farmyard=feedlot. Landuse=meadow can be tagged with

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

On 19/08/19 19:12, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 19 Aug 2019, 10:44 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 19/08/19 18:21, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Interesting! I remembered a problem with "trade=*" - it's already been used almost 5000 times to specify the type of trade

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

On 19/08/19 18:21, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Interesting! I remembered a problem with "trade=*" - it's already been used almost 5000 times to specify the type of trade goods sold at a shop=trade - see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/trade and

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