The onsen icon (♨) is commonly used all over Japan (of course), and is a great
icon (a hot bath with steam rising out) to represent a place to get a hot
natural bath vs a natural park's hot-spring. "Onsen" always means naturally
sourced hot water as well, vs a bathhouse (amenity=spa? showers?),
a business, similar
to a lap swimming pool vs a pond, or a fire hydrant vs a spring.
Javbw
On Mar 5, 2014, at 10:13 AM, johnw wrote:
> The onsen icon (♨) is commonly used all over Japan (of course), and is a
> great icon (a hot bath with steam rising out) to represent a place to get a
A rice field is a specialized field hat doesn't change . it is Landuse=farm
crop=rice
An eggplant field has almost the exact same setup, though shorter, and it is
landuse=farm crop=vegetable
the hop garden is visually distinctive, as is an orchard or a vineyard, and
those do have their own lan
> But I don't know the correct word to represent "Onsen" in English.
> Is "[something]=hot_spring_bath" better?
XX=hot_spring_bath would be perfect.
> I think, "Onsen" is the very unique word to represent "bathing amenity, that
> water from natural hot spring".
> So, I would like to hear the si
On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> I know of a number of each type of facility that I won't be adding to
> the map
This is for an amenity for a building - like Sauna. not a natural=hot_spring
(which is what you are talking about), so cool your waters.
Searching the word "onse
>>
> 'Onsen' is in the Oxford Dictionary, defined as 'In Japan: a hot spring, esp.
> one thought to have medicinal properties; a hot spring resort'.
well hot diggity-dog. There we go.
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Well, to me, landuse=civic it is the land that public owned, public accessed
facilities that not covered by a specific existing landuse (works, water
treatment plant, school, landfill, highways, railways).
In the built environment (not natural), there are some *general* landuses, such
as:
- 4
, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
>
> 2014-03-10 10:52 GMT+01:00 johnw :
> Well, to me, landuse=civic it is the land that public owned, public accessed
> facilities that not covered by a specific existing landuse (works, water
> treatment plant, school, landfill, highways, ra
>
> IMHO we do indeed have no need for building=public / civic.
if I were back in San Deigo, I might agree with that, but having come to Japan,
there is a definite and immediately recognizable distinction of city buildings,
*and* they are used quite heavily.
There is a known difference and a
I'm very interested to hear people's opinion on landuse=civic_admin
It would be a landuse for townhalls and other capital buildings, Federal
Buildings, DMV, courthouses, and other basic civic administrative offices where
it is clearly a government building.
This is to have a matching landuse to
+1 for dirt. There is a distinct difference between a dirt and gravel roads, as
well as sand.
In the US, dirt roads - especially fire and forestry roads - are maintained for
private and emergency access. Most of these roads are maintained by grading,
but are not surfaced with gravel in any way
To me, Amenity=onsen is similar to amenity=townhall.
for many onsen, there is no particular room you would say is " the onsen," just
like no particular room is the "townhall", It is the title of the facility
itself.. The purpose of the facility becomes it's name.
There might be some small fac
On Mar 15, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Fernando Trebien
wrote:
> Well, any information you add does help. If you could use something
> more specific than "dirt" ("gravel" is more precise, for instance)
Not when the road is dirt as opposed to gravel.
I live on a gravel road in Japan. My aunt lived on a
On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Fernando Trebien
wrote:
> How surprisingly similar the landscape in this area is to the place
> where I live in Brazil.
That's really pretty!
> Anyway, back to your place. I believe you'd call this a dirt road
> leading into a private property:
> https://www.goo
>
>
> In summary:
> - "tracktype tag"="surface:compaction"
> - "smoothness tag"="surface:regularity"
> - "surface tag"="surface:material_structure"
That is how I understand it. the Smoothness is the most subjective one, but the
others should be pretty straightforward.
Javbw
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On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I'd consider neither courthouses nor government buildings "administration".
Federal buildings in the US are the equivalent to branch offices of the US
government - basically "national hall" - they are very far apart, usually 1-3
per
for a tag like "landuse=institutional" or
something? a broad landuse for these different civic amenities when mixed
together? Or is the definition of "townhall" already that broad?
Javbw
PS: thanks for putting up with my comments and questions, especially when I am
mistaken.
On Mar 18, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Fernando Trebien
wrote:
> Replacing 'stiffness'
> with something else is absolutely fine with me.
What about firmness? soundness?
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On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>
> 2014-03-16 23:11 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar :
> I'd like to clarify what I said before that landuse=civic_admin would be
> useful. It would be useful for tagging the only the compounds where
> government offices are located (to
On Mar 21, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> 2014-03-20 19:24 GMT+01:00 Kytömaa Lauri :
> They ("civil features") don't exist to produce income (even if they somewhat
> do) so the "commerce" part is missing, but they exist because the society has
> deemed that it's necessary to
Hey guys - I had a question about tagging "wayside shrines." The wiki posits
that they are Christian, but I want to use them for another religion. This led
me to think about other religion-neutral tags main tags, and using a subtag for
the object.
here in Japan, there are probably tens of thous
On Jul 17, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> landuse=japanese_temple_grounds, or landuse=buddhist_temple_grounds, or maybe
> something nicer.
My Parent's presbyterian Church in San Diego has a very large chapel building,
a religious pre-school & kindergarten, a meeting hall, the churc
On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
>> Am 17/lug/2014 um 09:35 schrieb johnw :
>>
>> My Parent's presbyterian Church in San Diego has a very large chapel
>> building, a religious pre-school & kindergarten, a meeting hall, the ch
> Still not convinced about landuse=religious (could be owner_type=religious).
On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
>> Am 16/lug/2014 um 23:43 schrieb John Willis :
>>
>> It is all a single place, operated by the monks and priests that live or
>> work there. For the p
On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Pieren wrote:
> I'm surprised about this discussion. Think that
> amenity=place_of_worship has to be treated like amenity=school. Nobody
> is asking to create a landuse=school because it is rendered properly
> on the main osm style
Besides this discussion of Landuse
On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> I am not sure if I completely understand your question. I think the "rest"
> (or whole area) can evventually be split over different landuses, that is not
> a problem itself. "landuse" is not suited (IMHO) to create a feature on its
Martin - thanks for the thoughtful reply.
I read it carefully, and I think you kind of misunderstood me again, please
bare with me.
On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2014-07-24 1:01 GMT+02:00 johnw :
> My Main question is on my understanding of the landuse+bu
There's an interesting question.
It is a "salt evaporation pond" , and it is a really old practice of making
salt. the colorful south bay of san francisco is thanks to salt farming.
But is refining a mineral really farming? Refining is usually considered
industrial - but it was practiced with
@ martin -
In Japan, the "neighborhood" industrial shops are really common, especially
here in car parts land Gunma (Home of Subaru, Mitsuba and Ogura). We're talking
two guys in a garage running (truly) industrial metal stamping machines to make
simple brackets or whatnot for cars. Tokyo's re
On Jul 26, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> in this field (government agencies/institutions/services) we are lacking
> almost all tags, but I would prefer to use something different than landuse
> (or subtag for landuse)
We're talking about a very simple landuse=civic (which
been tagging a while in Japan, and a lot of larger infrastructure things -
roads, motorways, train stations, have english names added in parenthesis, such
as for
Tokyo Station [東京駅] :
name=東京 (Tokyo)
Name:ja=東京
name:en=Tokyo
There are hundreds of things that care labeled that way, I continued
On Sep 13, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote:
> No local mapper wants to read München (Munich) on the map. So why should
> Japanese or Chinese mappers want to read something on their map?
- if they were using a Japanese only map, then I can understand, but that would
be pulling from the
ent a rendering solution to let people choose which
sublanguage tag they'd also like displayed.
Javbw
On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:41 PM, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > johnw
> Japan local community had discussed about that on 2014/03.
> Thread is started here (quite
Missed that in August. Great to see it is being discussed at any level.
On Sep 14, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
>
> wow!
>
> > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803
> My previous text should be "insisted" (past, at that time).
> I'll follow the current issu
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the end goal is:
- to have junction names in korea, regardless of if they are traffic lights,
and the symbol used there doesn't imply traffic lights, just a junction.
- In Japan, the old junction system evolved to be named traffic signals, and
the sy
ersify between a named junction and single named traffic_signals.
>
> cu fly
>
> Am 17.09.2014 00:06, schrieb johnw:
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the end goal is:
>>
>> - to have junction names in korea, regardless of if they are traffic
>>
On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> * Here, I still do not see your point. What would you gain in doing so? You
> have more tags, which means more work. But can you do anything that you can
> not do with the current, yet existing tagging?
Differentiated tagging is needed for di
I don't know much about how the rendering system parses the tags. I thought t
would be non-trivial for it to work out how to display signal icons without a
new tag, so I thought a new tag might be necessary, and gave my suggestion.
I'm aware the current system is in use a lot for simple 1 node
On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> After thinking more about the tag name question: It may be useful to use for
> the complex situation at least the same key as for their conterpart in simple
> situations. This is intuitive (usability), and at the same time the tags for
> the
So the solution for a complex intersection is to have a signal_area area with
an outline that intersects with all the nodes where the signal would affect the
traffic? This would let the renderer use one icon, and still have the ways
marked in the proper spot for the intersection, right? (assumin
On Sep 21, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> As described in the proposal, the area is simply drawn around the
> approximative area that is affected by the traffic signals. It encloses
> everything, but shares nodes only with the incoming and outgoing highways.
So the nodes where the si
On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> > It should be pretty trivial to have the area share nodes with the highway
> > ways where the signals would normally be mapped.
> > Like drawing a square around a tic-tac-toe board, but the shared nodes are
> > only on one side at a time.
>
Wow, you really went over it very carefully, thanks for all the input. I will
go over your list of issues again, but can you "fix" it to as how you would see
this tag used? I'm very interested to see how you would properly tag it, as you
know the parsing methods much better than I do ('cause I h
Yea, it's a brothel - but it is avery particular style of brothel in Asia to
get around the laws , and AFAIK has very different customs than what I imagine
a more european or australian brothel is. because of the type of service that
is expected, I don't believe it meshes well with what someone
I have a question on highway link roads.
I came across some trunk_links that seemed really out of place today, but they
were recently added by a tagger that usually knows what they are doing.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.30046/139.19574
The frontage road for "local access" to the
On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> > As I understand it, the local access roads would be an unclassified road
> > with bollards or a kind of barrier at each end, and with trunk links, (or
> > one way unclassified roads?) that lead onto the actual new trunk road.
>
> There is n
> Sometimes you have frontage roads who mostly don’t give local access. Example
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=39.47925&mlon=-0.45146#map=17/39.47925/-0.45146
> Here the mapper decided to use “tertiary”. The road has mostly
> through-traffic. I would not make a strict rule for all cases,
Looks like Amenity=soapland is more and more appealing.
>< those libel laws... ouch. I thought the UK also had some pretty strict
>libel laws too.
On Sep 24, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2014 16:29, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote:
> > Are you serious that in Thailan
If we are going to use landcover=forest/wood/ to unify the meaning of "trees on
the ground", then the current implementation of forest - the bright green with
tree markers - should probably use the same color of "wood" green, as they are
all just a large amount of trees. The forest still uses
Or make Highway=trunk a little brighter green, so it stands out against the
wood even more.
On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:59 AM, johnw wrote:
> If we are going to use landcover=forest/wood/ to unify the meaning of "trees
> on the ground", then the current implementation of forest -
a few months ago I laid out the case for landuse=civic It's literal definition
is a little restrictive, but basically all government admin and services. from
a brance office of the city hall to the UN building. local to supranational.
There was so much back and forth over it - do we need a voti
On Oct 5, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> Il giorno 04/ott/2014, alle ore 06:58, johnw ha scritto:
>>
>> Usually the government services are monopolistic - courts, police, elected
>> officials (there's only 1 mayor) tax off
On Oct 9, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Dudley Ibbett wrote:
> Other possible descriptions would be:
>
> “haulage” for large loads. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haulage
> “courier” for smaller items. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courier
Distribution logistics is the *planning* of moving goods from a fac
>
> Distribution logistics is the *planning* of moving goods from a factory to
> the customer - the post office isn't a logistics company. Fedex or UPS, wich
> will pick up, store, warehouse, and ship another company's goods as they
> request them to be shipped to the customer for them is a Di
It sounds like the parking is an amenity of the the trailhead. maybe tagging
the trailhead as a point/area is a good thing. (amenity=trailhead or similar
tag that could be for a point or area. This si especially useful for larger
facilities where the whole reason for being is that the the trai
There are several other uses of the service key, like on waterway=canal +
service=irrigation.
So there must be other tags where the documentation exists for the other uses
of the service tag only with the parent key.
Javbw
On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Jack Burke wrote:
> Hello, all.
>
>
Isn't shopping centre a collection of disparate stores grouped together for
connivence (same parking lot), whereas a mall is a singular large (or several
large) buildings full of little shops, primarily accessed by a pedestrian
Thoroughfare in the center?
To me the defining characteristic is p
The second is in no way, shape or form, a "mall", in the modern usage of "Mall'
to define a shopping plaza destination. The word mall can also define a
pedestrian walkway with shops, But the singular noun of "Mall" - meaning a
large pedestrian centric shopping plaza - is very different than 5 s
On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> cl
I was going to suggest "Waste Transfer station"
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_transfer_station
But after reading the wiki for it, it was not at all what I expected.
In America, at least in most suburban areas, waste is collected from individual
residences via bins/cans
s that odd locked box for).
>
> johnw wrote on 2014-10-31 07:00:
>> I was going to suggest "Waste Transfer station"
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_transfer_station
>> But after reading the wiki for it, it was not at all what I expected.
&g
; foreign
> state, in contrast to 'civil' implying 'domestic, interior, home, national'.
> But
> as in amenity={hospital|school}, amenity=embassy can be applied to an area
> without hassle.
>
> tom
>
> John Willis wrote on 2014-10-07 2
AFIK - footway and path are more toward the width, surface, smoothness,
maintenance level, and expected use of the way. a sidewalk often gets tagged as
footpath, as would be a concrete walkway in a garden.
Paths are usually less maintained, less even, narrower, and lower grade
surfaces.
foot
nment” but civil
(opoopsite of military or company use) is a good fit, and civic is basically
“for civil”, so it works well enough - and matches a pre-existing approved
building subtag.
Javbw
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:
ds the end of the week,
> so it would be nice it the other contributors to this discussion would
> indicate under which title we should start it.
>
> tom
>
> johnw wrote on 2014-11-04 00:40:
> > and the line between public and private is not one OSM singles out very
> >
Went hiking on mt Miyogi yesterday in Gunma, and like other steep mountain
parks, sections of the trail were near vertical or completely vertical sections
of trail that have to be climbed by chains and occasional footholds. the
longest was over 30m. the shortest was about 4m.
http://www.opens
Thanks Alberto, Mike & Martin for the suggestions. I was a avid hiker in the
US, but this was the first time for me to encounter such assistance devices
myself. never knew their collective name until now.
Dan - I understand about “tagging for the renderer” , but what you personally
consider
To me, "Civic" is short for "Civic Services". Maybe I should make that clear. I
updated the RFC page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civic
: of or relating to a city or town or the people who live there
: relating to
it's wouldn't matter too to me, as long as we get a new landuse and some
subtags out of it.
> On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Matthijs Melissen
> wrote:
>
> On 5 November 2014 00:23, johnw wrote:
>> Business-government-citizen-military-religion-farm-park. There
e on 2014-11-04 11:06:
>
> > I'm opposing "civil" or "civic" by the definitions you cited above,
> [...]
> > What about using more specific definitions, e.g.
> > landuse=public_administration?
>
>
> johnw wrote on 2014-11-04 03:56:
&g
I’m not sure of other countries, but at least in the US, parking on top of
retail structures is exceedingly rare - usually there are adjacent multi-story
parking structures. It always seems that there is some kind of code or cost
savings preventing it, always forcing it to be underground or lowe
I was thinking of just.. Um.. drawing an area of the building, with levels=x,
layer=1, then drawing the parking lot on top of it (it usually is a bit smaller
and less than 100% of the top, elevators and AC and all), and then tagging the
parking with Amenity=parking & parking=rooftop / layer=2
H
fferent
render.
Javbw
>
>
>
> On 11.11.2014 06:38, johnw wrote:
> > I assume there is a need to create a new parking=rooftop or similar tag,
> > which can then be used to create more accurate renderers (perhaps by also
> > placing the parking=rooftop tag onto
>
> First Principle?
> However in a multistory buliding .. what are people coming to the building
> for? Should 'we' not map the purpose of the building
The purpose of the building is indeed retail (almost always), but the purpose
of the map is navigation.
I wish to accurately tag and rende
level=roof sounds fine to me. Roof always gets special treatment (it’s usually
never a floor number)
> On Nov 12, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Pieren wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, johnw wrote:
>> 2014-11-11 12:53 GMT+01:00 Tobias Knerr :
>
>>> Therefore,
n Nov 12, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>
> What about more complex buildings with multiple roofs?
>
> 2014-11-12 12:27 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>:
>
>
> level=roof sounds fine to me. Roof always gets special treatment (it’s
> usually never a f
in the late 1980’s, they put non-potable signs on many springs in national
parks because of the uncertainty of bacteria in the water (from horse poop),
though people had been drinking from them since the parks creation (and
earlier).
There are places where access to water via spring or other u
If we are to split landuse=civic into civic_services and civic_admin, Then I
would like some feedback on the categories things fall into.
On the discussion page, I listed out some building types that would fall into
either one, and I would like opinions on removals or additions to the lists.
od Lakes) we boiled everything.
This seems to really require a non-binary solution.
> On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, johnw wrote:
> Now that the tagging structure can handle roads, driveways, tracks and trails
> with very high levels of detail, the effort to refine the tags for e
A couple more landuse cases were added. I’m going to ask now if it is a good
idea to specifically exclude Police/fire/safety and give them their own
landuse(s).
Safety could cover the lifeguard/ski patrol/ranger buildings that are public or
privately operated for the purposes of interacting wi
> On Nov 14, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Pieren wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:03 AM, johnw wrote:
>> A couple more landuse cases were added. I’m going to ask now if it is a good
>> idea to specifically exclude Police/fire/safety and give them their own
>> landuse(s).
t
> On Nov 14, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Pieren wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:29 PM, johnw wrote:
>
>> it is a subkey for the buildings, to go with building=civic.
>
> My concern is about splitting a landuse polygon just to refine
> information that could be stored
Updated and clarified the split of civic into 3 separate keys - civic_admin,
civic_service, and civic_safety. Also discussed judicial and penal.
civic_safety and penal are interesting, because there is no landuse for police
stations, fire stations, jails or prisons. Martin suggested splitting o
How would I go about documenting the garbage/refuse cabinets? Just get a
picture and put it into the wiki, or is there some other way?
because it is a brand new proposal, I’m unsure of the procedure to extend it.
Javbw
>
> It has been documented as voted yesterday
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
>
> 2014-11-14 5:03 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>:
> A couple more landuse cases were added. I’m going to ask now if it is a good
> idea to specifically exclude Police/fire/safety and give
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
>
> On 17/11/2014 15:14, althio forum wrote:
>
> I may have been stretching the 'Openstreetmap' case a bit.
We were discussing how to properly tag kilns, with their method of firing and
how many chimneys they have, so I don’t think you
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
> there will be more people with even more ideas and classification needs.
> Therefor the foo=bar, bar=x way of subtyping, which implies there is only one
> kind of subtyping, should generally be deprecated in favor of more verbose
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 8:05 PM, François Lacombe
> wrote:
>
> A large amount of values can be added to street_cabinet key.
>
> I think you should only open a thread on Talk page to let other contributors
> discuss about it and relay the discussion here on @tagging
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.o
Then how did mail relay box sneak through then? It was part of the initial
proposal. It’s a box full of letters/parcels.
Javbw.
> On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
>
> 2014-11-18 8:32 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>:
> updated th
I have a question about creating custom road shields, and I know this ties into
-carto - but I think it needs tags to work, so I’ll start here in the tagging
list.
I was thinking of a method for adding custom badges or shields to roads and
generic objects - usually country specific things, suc
I think having it on the relation is a great idea, especially since adding the
tags to all the road segments sounds like an insane amount of tagging . Is this
something that we should ask Phil to create a formal proposal page for the
tags, so we can start adding symbol key values to relations? I
> On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
>
> On 11/27/14 6:48 PM, johnw wrote:
>> I think having it on the relation is a great idea, especially since adding
>> the tags to all the road segments sounds like an insane amount of tagging .
>> Is this someth
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:26 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:11 PM, johnw <mailto:jo...@mac.com>> wrote:
> That looks really good. Some graphic designers need to remake the shields for
> icon size (bigger lettering, details ignored), but the
> Maybe in Japan a convenience store doesn't have food in it.
>
Japan has the nicest "conbinis" you can find - you could actually eat a real
(premade) lunch every day from a convenience store here, rather than getting
food poisoning from a hot dog at one in the US.
However - to them Fast food
One of the driving schools I went to is a permanent course laid out on a flood
plain ( as is the soccer fields and helipads), but as it is inside a leveed
flood canal, they are not allowed to build permanent buildings.
So the driving school uses a bus. It has a desk, a waiting room, and
everyt
working on a proposal for civic landuses, and a subtag for building=civic for
all kinds of governmental buildings and services.
Your input is appreciated.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dcivic
javbw
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 7:30 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
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>
> The best way is probably locals developping a tagging scheme for "their"
> field. The only problem then would be cuisine types that don't exist in the
> country of which they pretend to come from ;-)
Yep - I’m sure the traditional, sushi, soba, udon, and maybe even the
imported-from-china ra
t represented well) - but it certainly would fall into that
category of building=civic and civic=* - just as a city hall, a rec center,
or community center would fall into that category as well, and all are further
defined by their amenity tag.
Javbw
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> Simone
>
> 2014-12-16
. I had no
idea there were so many kinds of pizza in Italy!^__^
Javbw
> On Dec 16, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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>
> 2014-12-16 12:36 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>:
> Building=Civic + civic=civic_services if it offers something
It’s interesting that wherever you go, the “builder” people all seem to have
their own culture and identity - and uniform. The "construction workers" in
america that frame houses all seem to be part of of a big club, and the
specialty wooden house people here in Japan - daiku-san (大工さん) , with t
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