Re: [Tagging] Snowmobile routes

2016-09-28 Thread Erik Johansson
Here is a Swedish version of that NY snowmobile map that uses OSM data: http://skoterleder.org/#!map/7/62.4692/17.6440 transaltes to: "snowmobile routes.org" https://github.com/skoterleder/skoterleder.org On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Yes, exactly. People tag the ways

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

2015-11-11 Thread Erik Johansson
amenity=diy_tool_station bicycle=yes iceskates=yes locked=yes opening_hours=during games. I only know of one for iceskates though, can I can't remember why it wasn't made a generic tag, the current tag is a bit like subway_entrance vs entrance. On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

2015-05-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: >> amenity=pub -> pub=yes >> shop=travel_agent -> travel_agent=yes >> office=travel_agent -> travel_agent=yes > > > So you want to replace shop=bakery by bakery=yes, shop=butcher with > butcher

Re: [Tagging] Wood+Coastline conflict

2015-04-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Torstein Ingebrigtsen Bø wrote: > Hi, > > Some island are covered completely with wood. For these island I get a tag > conflict. Since the natural tag is used for both. I have two solutions: > 1. make a combined tag like natural=coastline;wood > 2. make a 1-way re

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

2014-12-17 Thread Erik Johansson
Then I like kids_area when you are mapping a private playground that is closed off without direct public access, mainly because I wouldn't map them as a leisure=playground. About supervision vs. childcare, we have lots of free supervised playgrounds here which do not offer child care, and and I ha

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

2014-12-17 Thread Erik Johansson
Hi Dmitry I did a quick sruvey of some fast food restuarants the local Ikea, I know they all have "leisure=playground" outside and inside, non of these were mapped. So why haven't we mapped them as leisure=playground? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: > > Hi > > We have >

Re: [Tagging] Various alt_name values?

2014-11-27 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Brian Quinion < openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk> wrote: > On 25 November 2014 at 13:30, althio forum wrote: > > I don't even know which keys are currently under use by Nominatim and > other > > data consumers and how that could evolve in the future. > > At the m

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2014-11-27 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: >> Maybe they are sometimes tagged in another way as shop=bicycle + >> service:bicycle:repair=yes and service:bicycle:retail=no >> (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=bicycle?

Re: [Tagging] New key proposal - paved=yes/no

2014-09-30 Thread Erik Johansson
These are more than 90% of values for surface, categorize them as paved/unpaved the rest as unpaved. surface= asphalt unpaved paved gravel ground dirt grass concrete paving_stones sand cobblestone compacted paved=yes will remove then need for parsing those last % of surface=* values, not sure it

Re: [Tagging] wikidata instead of wikipedia

2014-02-24 Thread Erik Johansson
Yeah it's pretty "easy" to get wikidata data. Warning though; the data in Wikidata is not all CC0 licensed. You never know where the data came from they are not as strict about these things as OSM is. lang=en; title=OpenStreetMap; bad_title=gracefully_handle_bad_input curl "www.wikidata.org/w/

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

2014-02-22 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-02-21 14:22 GMT+01:00 Erik Johansson : > >> I have now tagged such an area with >> >> landuse=depot >> barrier=fence >> depot=public_works >> (access=private maybe?) >> >>

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

2014-02-21 Thread Erik Johansson
I have now tagged such an area with landuse=depot barrier=fence depot=public_works (access=private maybe?) ok? (atm all on the same way) On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-02-19 22:18 GMT+01:00 sabas88 : > >> Why use landuse=industrial? Because it's rendered?

Re: [Tagging] tag man_made=campanile to be replaced with man_made=belfry?

2014-02-13 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Here in Thailand we're having an extended discussion about towers that are > associated with temples. I would suggest using man_made=tower in > conjunction with tower:type=bell_tower for your situation. Our discussion > is stuck on whether su

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-14 Thread Erik Johansson
I agree with Martin the voting is meaningless for this, you will have to prove that this is usefull in some way first then post the proposal again. Show us how routers should use the data and how invasive this tagging is. On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Pee Wee wrote: > @ Martin > > I understa

Re: [Tagging] How to tag babycare?

2013-12-02 Thread Erik Johansson
I use ramp=yes on highway=steps so you can route for strollers, but I there is not support in renderers or router for that.. :-) All those other tags are pretty universally available in Sweden, but I guess it's a good thing to map in those large amusements parks/malls. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:2

Re: [Tagging] Taginfo for specific geographies

2013-11-26 Thread Erik Johansson
No, when I looked at the code last year there was no indication that you could do that in any easy way. The taginfo import is reported to take 10 minutes for Sweden so I guess if the box isn't that big you can always try to extract it and import it to your own taginfo db. Now when we have taginfo

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-13 Thread Erik Johansson
Are you proposing tagging all ways with a parallel cycleway with bicycle=use_cycleway? Sounds like it's made for mechanical edit abuse. But if you are saying that there are roads marked with bicycle=no which really do not have such a sign, then that's different. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:16 PM, P

Re: [Tagging] tag proposal for soft play centres

2013-11-05 Thread Erik Johansson
It has occured to me that this seems to be more of something simliar to tourism=theme_park, yet smaller. I don't know if there is such a tag that is widespread or if it's better to use your own tag. I think it's not such a good idea to use leisure=playground + fee=yes, since it most certainly is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging camp sites within campground

2013-06-20 Thread Erik Johansson
I think this discussion seems a lot like the one on "apartment numbers" we had a while back. I couldn't find it though. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:17 PM, fly wrote: > On 18.06.2013 05:27, Paul Johnson wrote: >> I'm thinking it might be time to revive this proposal: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] tagging cannons

2013-06-04 Thread Erik Johansson
BTW is there a tag for cannon that still go BANG now and then; historic=cannon+bang=yes? I guess fixed artillery hasn't much room in the defense of today, so it's still a historic thing. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 6/3/13 3:49 PM, René Kirchhoff wrote: >> >> Hello,

Re: [Tagging] Historic huts

2013-03-30 Thread Erik Johansson
I don't know, they seems to be in pretty bad shape a lot worse than the ones depicted in the wiki. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > Am 29/mar/2013 um 09:37 schrieb Erik Johansson : > >> I'm pointing out that this is neither

Re: [Tagging] Historic huts

2013-03-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Andreas Labres wrote: > On 28.03.13 11:18, Erik Johansson wrote: >> This sounds more like an tourism attraction than a hut though > > If it is a tourism attraction tag it as tourism=attraction (that's what I > said). > > But don&

Re: [Tagging] Historic huts

2013-03-28 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Andreas Labres wrote: > On 28.03.13 06:45, Steve Bennett wrote: >> tourism=attraction (to increase the chance that the historic=* actually >> renders as something...) > > Don't tag for the renderer! amenity=shelter by itself renders. Only tag it as > a > tourism=a

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-26 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:53 PM, A.Pirard.Papou wrote: > maybe add the key "informal"=yes to the path? I do this for "spontaneous" > ways and it is also documented in the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal > > And the other suggestions, many thanks, sorry for not listing the

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > 2013/2/22 Janko Mihelić >> >> I'm not entirely sure I understood your question, but you shouldn't map >> non-ways. Routers could be developed that route through non-ways, if there >> is no cliff or something else in the way. A rou

Re: [Tagging] Using key:operator to contain building management organization

2013-02-20 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:58 AM, wrote: > In particular for business properties, the property or building manager name > and contact information is often available on a sign on the building's > exterior. In this case I've used the _operator_ key to contain this > information. Wondering what

Re: [Tagging] bicycle-no on motorways

2013-02-09 Thread Erik Johansson
"the wiki says that in country X, Y is the default, > therefore I don't need to tag it" is excessively optimistic. /Erik Johansson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Kids use a sled downhill

2013-01-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Richard Mann wrote: > No word for it in English (en-gb), to my knowledge. Locally we'd refer to > "the slope by the bridge" or "going up to Rayleigh Park". As some of us were > doing yesterday :o) Thanks all for the wonderfull anecdotes, since I only know how to

[Tagging] Kids use a sled downhill

2013-01-20 Thread Erik Johansson
I've spent every winter since ~2008 wondering what you call a Pulka hill in english, so basically a hill that kids use to go fast with a sled. People have been using: piste:type=sled So a pulka is something like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rodeln_01.jpg And a Pulka hill is someth

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-19 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > We have an xapi that lets you selectively pull data for just what you're > interested in. This is not a discussion for tagging, sorry for brining it up. Interesting; about disused:*, I use this for big things that seems to be one thing but

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:17 AM, wrote: > There is a fast food franchise site which is closed for renovation in my > vicinity. Two questions: > * Would you support or recommend tagging a transient state like 'closed for > renovation'? > * If one were to indicate temporary closure, how would on

Re: [Tagging] New relation type=provides_feature

2012-12-15 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Markus Lindholm wrote: > On 14 December 2012 18:41, Erik Johansson wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Markus Lindholm >> wrote: >>> Created a page on the wiki for this proposal >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Re

Re: [Tagging] New relation type=provides_feature

2012-12-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Markus Lindholm wrote: > Created a page on the wiki for this proposal > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Provides_feature What purpose does the role=entrance have when the node/way is going to be tagged building=entrance or entrance=main anywa

Re: [Tagging] How to solve the problem with relation overload?

2012-12-04 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote: > Hi! > > After reading all the responses I have to conclude that we don't > really have a perfect solution right now. I guess the best would be a > "cleanup" of the relations: on ways where more than one (or two) Or remove all routes from t

Re: [Tagging] Bicycle room in a hotel

2012-11-22 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Any established way to tag a hotel that has a lockable bicycle room for > guests? > Would > service:bicycle:parking=yes > be appropriate? > This would be in line with other bicycle services the hotel may provide, > like > service:bicycle:ren

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2012/10/16 Janko Mihelić : >> You have to divide the road each time there is not a full line on the road, >> ad you should put a restriction where those roads meet that restricts >> U-turns. What is the answer to that? > > > I find it

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-26 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Craig Wallace wrote: > On 26/08/2012 08:42, Markus Lindholm wrote: >> >> Also, no one has offered any other solution to the routing issue. The >> divider tag has been proposed, but I think it has been demonstrated >> not to work, as routing decision are made on the

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-08 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 13:30 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: >> > So this is not/should not be a mini_roundabout? It seems a little silly to >> > call it anything else, since the city just dug

Re: [Tagging] reference_point and landmark for addresses

2012-03-30 Thread Erik Johansson
2012/3/27 Johan Jönsson : > I will make my point clearer. > It isn´t the houses with adresses that will be tagged, it is the > Reference_point itself. Indeed in the current scheme of things, addr:reference_point=* should be part of the node where the adress is, in the same way that the very simil

Re: [Tagging] A leisure tag for bathe

2012-03-12 Thread Erik Johansson
2012/3/11 Johan Jönsson : > I made a try to do go through some examples to see how it worked. They are at: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Johan_J%C3%B6nsson/Workspace > > what I can see, it looks like it is only the open-air public nature bath > locations that really lack tags, swimming_

Re: [Tagging] gym as an amenity value

2012-03-09 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:04, Erik Johansson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 18:16, Craig Wallace wrote: >> On 08/03/2012 16:54, Clifford Snow wrote: >>> >>> I do not see gym listed as a value for the tag amenity.  I would like to >>> see it as a recogn

Re: [Tagging] gym as an amenity value

2012-03-09 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 18:16, Craig Wallace wrote: > On 08/03/2012 16:54, Clifford Snow wrote: >> >> I do not see gym listed as a value for the tag amenity.  I would like to >> see it as a recognized key value for amenity.  Taginfo, >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/amenity >> shows 644 gym

Re: [Tagging] Mapping as two ways or one, u-turns

2012-03-05 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 13:03, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Markus Lindholm > wrote: >> There was a proposal like that >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Divider >> that has been abandoned. Not sure of the reason. > > I also created one: > http://wik

Re: [Tagging] unfinished railway of historic importance

2012-03-05 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 08:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I've run into the same argument with people tagging construction sites for > various kinds of buildings. I always maintained that the object in question > is primarily a construction site, and the fact that a hotel or museum is > being built is

[Tagging] Mapping as two ways or one, u-turns

2012-03-02 Thread Erik Johansson
There is nothing separating this road yet it is mapped as two ways: http://osm.org/go/0bCzcBhNM--?m http://goo.gl/KLTpu (Streetview) This is done for routers. Imagine you want to go from the marker to number 117, as it is mapped today the router will know that you can't go back on the same stree

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 23:56, Simone Saviolo wrote: > > 2012/1/11 Ben Johnson : > > For a public access pool (eg run by a local government authority, or even a > > private operator who's main business is the swimming pool) usually charge > > an entry fee and have opening hours, so i'd use [acce

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 23:51, Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2012/1/11 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : > >> I will gladly change my amenity=parking to what ever you decide. Does > >> access=private work? The parking lots aren't private it'

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 21:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> it says "A default amenity=parking means a free public parking lot on >> surface." So it's as coherent as a wiki should be.. :-) And makes me >> think that there will be lots of bad data.. > > actually this is a recent wiki fiddling atte

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 19:58, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I think that a space that you rent as an open-air garage on a monthly basis, > cannot be considered an amenity "car parking". If you put these on the map > you are really creating confusion for the map users (= car drivers). > I would not map

[Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
I tag all parking spaces as amenity=parking, even though you have to rent a place by the month. I'm guessing this is wrong? But this is how most people do it. -- /emj ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/lis

Re: [Tagging] Health and other stories

2012-01-11 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 17:28, sabas88 wrote: > 2012/1/11 Michael Krämer >> >> To be honest I haven't really thought about the >> difference between until this thread came up... > > > That's a problem for various non-native speakers (me included eheh) > > This should be an opportunity to make som

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Coffee Roasting

2011-12-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 13:12, Volker Schmidt wrote: > ... and what about the bigger roasters, that do not sell their products to > the consumer, but you can smell them from miles downwind. They are > factories, I suppose, but what is the tag? land_use=industrial and then the > name of the factory

Re: [Tagging] power=tower enhancement

2011-12-13 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 21:12, Nick Austin wrote: > 3) Where three cables meet one of two of them may come up a riser and > it's impossible to tell which is the supply cable and which is leading > to a destination. > 4) When underground cables fail they are often abandoned and left in > place. The

Re: [Tagging] Explain sport=multi

2011-12-10 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 05:01, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Peter Wendorff > wrote: >> I would use it for sports facilities not dedicated to specific sports. > > So, to play devil's advocate: why bother with a sports=* tag at all in > that case? > > What's the differenc

Re: [Tagging] Explain sport=multi

2011-12-08 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 13:53, Tobias Knerr wrote: > Erik Johansson wrote: >> sport=multi is very well used but have no description in the wiki. Is >> there anyone that uses this tag? >> >> For some reason I get the feeling this is at least when I see it used >> a

[Tagging] Explain sport=multi

2011-12-08 Thread Erik Johansson
sport=multi is very well used but have no description in the wiki. Is there anyone that uses this tag? For some reason I get the feeling this is at least when I see it used as a shorthand for multiple values on a sport key e.g. sport=multi instead of: sport=soccer;basketball;curling http://tagi

Re: [Tagging] Wheelchair ramp

2011-12-05 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 20:34, David Earl wrote: > On 02/12/2011 04:31, Josh Doe wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer >>  wrote: >>> >>> 2011/12/1 Martijn van Exel: >> >> Is there a specific tag for a wheelchair ramp that is not part of a >> steps feature?

Re: [Tagging] Announcing: website key integrity checking

2011-10-26 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 07:18, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > KeepRight, at http://keepright.ipax.at/ > now validates "website" tags on ways and nodes. > The script loads each page and performs a fuzzy match... > a restaurant for example needs to match on name, phone number or address > (any one will do).

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM, André Riedel wrote: > 2011/10/14 Erik Johansson : >> If can't even tag *entrances* to a subway with this tag I see little >> use for it. Could either of you perhaps expand a bit  about what you >> mean. > > You can tag the entrance

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:18 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > > In the case of a subway station, this will mean that the station's area will > need to underlay other mapped objects, and the mapper will need to map the > access tunnels as well as the station proper. Burrr! Openstreetmap is not mad

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:20 AM, John Sturdy wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:28 AM, André Riedel wrote: > >> As the creator of the proposal I do not like your proposed key/value >> entrance=public_transport. >> The tag should show the importance of an entrance and not what you >> will find be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > But that's still besides my point which > is that deprication should be handled properly instead of giving those > "hints" for DWG to not interfere on mass removal even before anything > is official. > > FYI, I'm not against the proposal itse

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Erik Johansson wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: >> >> aren't we better of without building=entrance? I really >> hope that DWG can be kept out of thi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - entrance=*

2011-10-12 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: > Hi. The proposal for marking building entrances with entrance=* tags was > discussed a year and a half ago, but didn't really go anywhere: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/entrance > > An hour ago there was a big changs

Re: [Tagging] Wide steps

2011-10-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:50 PM, David Earl wrote: > Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps... > > These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase. They > form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way around it. > There are only 4 steps, but they

Re: [Tagging] lanes tag dispute

2011-09-20 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Anthony wrote: > 2011/9/19 Kytömaa Lauri : >> If there is one globally accepted definition of what a lane is, it's the >> one in the UN Vienna Convention on road signs and signals: >> >> "Lane" means any one of the longitudinal strips into which the carriageway >>

Re: [Tagging] lanes tag dispute

2011-09-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 9/18/2011 8:33 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> +1, lanes from the very beginning were to indicate all lanes of the >> road. Opposed to this was the common practice, not to split an highway >> because of a short lane for turns (othe

Re: [Tagging] lanes tag dispute

2011-09-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Currently user Alv is trying to redefine the lanes tag to say that it must > include all turn lanes: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:lanes&action=history I've had this discussion before 2007 and I've always said and

Re: [Tagging] Prevoting: New_barrier_types

2011-07-02 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Folk, I rediscovered an old proposal which is extending the set of > barrier values. > > Please comment now on this, before we can eventually vote to get this > to a more definite status: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - childcare

2011-05-09 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:14 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/5/8 Flaimo : > The biggest issue I see is that this feature seems already be covered > by the social facility feature: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Social_facility > Have a look at the subkey social_facility:for=child      

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Directional Flow

2011-04-02 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 4/1/2011 5:59 PM, Paul Norman wrote: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/directional > > Presumably JOSM would treat this like oneway, in that it will prompt when > reversing a way? There are lots of tags that are

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote: > Or take the Sucre, the capitol of Bolivien (193k people) and compare to > Santa Cruz de la Sierra (biggest city of the country) with 1.1m people. Funnily enough many people in Bolivia count La Paz (about 2m) as the Capital, the president i

Re: [Tagging] Karting...

2011-01-10 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:53 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 11 January 2011 00:47, Erik Johansson wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:03 PM, John Smith >> wrote: >>> On 10 January 2011 23:52, Steve Bennett wrote: >>>> Definitely with a k. I actually

Re: [Tagging] Karting...

2011-01-10 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:03 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 10 January 2011 23:52, Steve Bennett wrote: >> Definitely with a k. I actually tagged this sport recently, I took a > > Did I really need to say british english? cart with a k is american english. > >> punt on sport=go_karting. Either that o

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a (main) entrance to a large feature?

2010-11-19 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Mike N. wrote: >> I don't know if it's legal to park here and walk around the gate into >> the park, but assume for the sake of argument that it is. How do we >> tell the router to instead use the main entrance to the south? > >  In this case, the way in the photo

Re: [Tagging] Groups of islands, how to tag?

2010-11-19 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Willi wrote: >> 2) If the answer is 'use a relation', have I done it properly, and if so, >> why isn't Mapnik rendering the name properly? > 2) If and how a feature is rendered is up to the renderer. The mapper can't > and imho shouldn't try to control this. > >

Re: [Tagging] Difference between footway and pedestrian

2010-10-26 Thread Erik Johansson
Basically pedestrian is for things in urban areas, like streets, footway is for paths in parks and in woods.. This shows a street ment for walking http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian This shows a path made for walking: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootw

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010-09-08 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: > At 2010-09-04 09:12, Erik Johansson wrote: >> >> I would like to tag areas with apartment buildings, and small houses >> for a  single family differently, at the moment I tag all of them with >>  landuse=residential.

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-05 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:14 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Many people are tagging single trees, and usually use natural=tree for > this. Now there are some voices on the German ML that say, > natural=tree is reserved for "special" trees, and can therefore not be > used for "ordinary" trees. >

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010-09-05 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: > M?rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> > And AFAIK it's not a good idea to translate every value like you do it >> > here. >> > The translations/languages should only apply to names, not on "classes". >> > If your Application wants to use

[Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010-09-04 Thread Erik Johansson
Hi I would like to tag areas with apartment buildings, and small houses for a single family differently, at the moment I tag all of them with landuse=residential. I need good terminology in english to tag them. This is from swedish wikipedia: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flerfamiljhus#Typer_av_

Re: [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-09-01 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Vincent Pottier wrote: > On 01/09/2010 04:09, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Nathan Edgars II >>  wrote: >> >>> >>> I don't know of any other feature where the direction of the way means >>> something *without* another tag being added. >>> >>

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: > * Erik Johansson [2010-05-14 18:29 +0200]: >> If you tag highway=footway with bike=yes then you don't make it >> exclusively for bikes. So if you tag a playground with baby=yes >> shouldn't that just mean that th

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:02 AM, antony.king wrote: > Hi all, > > We've been slowly mulling over the proposed playground extensions for > the last couple of months, And you did a very good job, I've always wondered what to call those hanging roundabouts myself. _

Re: [Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:02 AM, antony.king wrote: > Hi all, > > We've been slowly mulling over the proposed playground extensions for > the last couple of months, and I hope that we've covered all the > ground that needs to be covered by now. Could those that care to vote, > cast your votes on

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Jonas Minnberg wrote: >> >> That is what I like about it - when all I can find out about an area is that >> is green and lies in between buildings, "yard" is an appropriately vague >> word. > > You say you onl

Re: [Tagging] A shop selling fish and seafood

2010-05-05 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:48 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 5 May 2010 01:24, Stephen Gower wrote: >> Those calling for shop=fish rather than shop=fishmonger - what would you use >> for >> the pet fish shop? > > How many pet shops would there be that only sell fish? > > I'm guessing a small minority

Re: [Tagging] How To Tag Coastlines That Are Also Cliffs?

2010-05-01 Thread Erik Johansson
> wouldn't want to take them to a cliff-edge site. > > -- > John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com > "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not > to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: [Tagging] How To Tag Coastlines That Are Also Cliffs?

2010-04-30 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Zeke Farwell wrote: > Hi, >  I'm working on > an area of coastline made up of cliffs and beaches.   There are many > sections where the cliffs drop directly into the ocean and it seems logical > to me that the coastline and the cliff should be represented as one si

[Tagging] Entrances..

2010-04-20 Thread Erik Johansson
Wouldn't it be great if railway=subway_entrance was rendering, and if we had a generic scheme to tag entrances for different stuff. I've used building=entrance, but I need to tag railway=station_entrance, train=door, highway=bus_station_entrance etc. etc. How do I solve this in a better way? http

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

2010-04-09 Thread Erik Johansson
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Cartinus wrote: > On Friday 09 April 2010 09:03:03 John Smith wrote: >> Although that brings up another issue about how coastlines are legally >> defined as being at the mean low tide mark > > Actually this is completely irrelevant. > > In OSM the coastline is not d

Re: [Tagging] linear vs area roundabout

2010-03-22 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: > - Forwarded Message > From: Thomas  > > In looking at some features I am a little puzzled as to when a way is an > “area” and when it is not and how to resolved the “conflict”. If something renders as an area in Mapnik then it's an a

Re: [Tagging] Dutch cafes (was: What's a power=station?)

2010-01-20 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/1/20 Peter Childs >> >> In my book its easy. >> >> Cafe Usually Unlicensed. > > > Definitely I would not put licenses and other legal stuff into the > definition. They differ almost certainly in different countries, are of no

Re: [Tagging] What do we map

2010-01-20 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Liz wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: >> We map everything we can. And POIs btw is one big reason for lot of >> people to map. >> > > Originally I didn't realise that there was no special reason for which shops > had tagged and which didn't, so

Re: [Tagging] Tagging an old bus route

2009-12-24 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > On 24/12/2009 01:13, Arlindo Pereira wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I mapped a bus route that is integrated to the subway line (uses the >> same ticket) [1]. However, this route will be no more, because we've >> built another subway station, w

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-22 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: > At 2009-12-21 11:01, Roy Wallace wrote: >>... If you don't know where the other end of the >>street is, you can't use an addr:interpolation way, so it seems to me >>that you are just tagging a sign. >> >>Is there already a tagging scheme for th

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/12/21 Erik Johansson >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Frederik Ramm >> wrote: >> > Then why don't you use "place=locality, name=45-29" if that's all you >> > wan

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM, David Earl wrote: > On 21/12/2009 15:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> are you aware of JOSM-Presets and autocompletion? If you work in JOSM >> and use the presets, the street, city and country-tags will be >> autocompleted. > > Furthermore if you use JOSM's addres

Re: [Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Erik Johansson wrote: >> 1. I use addr:housenumbers, just to get numbers on the map. Even >> though I don't follow the spec. > > Then why don't you use "place=locality, name=45-29" if t

[Tagging] Adding housnumber the lazy way.

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Johansson
Hi I've slowly started using addr:housenumbers, I'm not really interested in doing it according to the way the addr:* scheme work atm though.. Because of the amount of work to enter data in that scheme. Here are the things that I believe is different from the addr:* scheme.. 1. I use addr:housen

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