[Tagging] Builders' Merchants

2010-06-23 Thread ael
english builders_merchant (modulo apostrophe/single/plural)? Now is that shop=building_supplies, or amenity=building_supplies? Shop seems altogether too small. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 08:39:32PM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 23 June 2010 20:26, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 June 2010 14:34, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: +1 for building_supplies as a shop. I have seen many shops which sell construction materials like cement

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
to be the same thing. So while we are on _Merchant, how should timer merchants be tagged? Would shop=timber-yard be easily understood and useful? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:11:50PM +0200, Claudius Henrichs wrote: Am 24.06.2010 10:42, ael: So while we are on _Merchant, how should timer merchants be tagged? Would shop=timber-yard be easily understood and useful? Didn't it spring to your mind that with those two related tags

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:21:19PM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 24 June 2010 21:43, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: Does yard have the wrong connotations in the US? Residential garden? That was what I was thinking about. But the context of shop=yard should be enough to signal

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:47:24PM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 24 June 2010 23:14, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: Still, I was hoping for a better word than yard. What was wrong with Liz's suggestion? shop and supplies are synonymous? Since every shop supplies something, we may

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread ael
my suggestion of yard was meant to capture. industrial_supplies isn't a natural classification for the places in the UK, but it is the best suggestion so far. In any case, it does capture other sorts of outlets, so I think it is a valuable subtag nevertheless. ael

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-25 Thread ael
suggest that we are not dealing with a normal shop. Can someone come up with a better idea. Please :-) ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-26 Thread ael
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:49:28AM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 26 June 2010 08:31, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: Can someone come up with a better idea. Please :-) You haven't really explained what was so wrong with shop=supplies, considering it's intended to be only used

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-26 Thread ael
|plastics|... ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-07-29 Thread ael
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:03:46PM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 26 June 2010 19:24, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: What about trade? In uk selling to the trade implies an outlet which sells to professionals but also does ordinary retail. Admittedly this tends to be used in advertising

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-07-31 Thread ael
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:03:46PM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 26 June 2010 19:24, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: What about trade? In uk selling to the trade implies an outlet which sells to professionals but also does ordinary retail. Admittedly this tends to be used in advertising

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-07-31 Thread ael
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 07:57:40PM +1000, John Smith wrote: On 31 July 2010 19:46, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: I have expanded it a bit to help motivate trade for those who haven't seen this thread. Surely wood is redundant given timber_yard? There are specialty places that sell

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-08-09 Thread ael
to the wrong thread, haven't you? What has this to do with shop, trade and wood? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread ael
to the left) would be the fifth and so on. I'm not Navit works properly for me in such situations: are you using the latest version? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Towing service?

2011-01-09 Thread ael
or mistag because they're confused. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] new Draft on detailed bike shops

2011-03-29 Thread ael
=Special:Logpage=Proposed_features/shop:bicycle. Works fine in firefox here: a cache problem, perhaps? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Club

2011-06-07 Thread ael
gentlemen :-) Seriously, in the UK, I am going to my club would normally be understood to refer to some such institution, at least among some sections of the community. Perhaps also in the US, given Groucho Marx: I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members. ael

Re: [Tagging] suitable tag for garden and forest machinery shop

2011-06-22 Thread ael
at professionals as well as retail. But it might form a template for another more suitable group: I suppose shop=specialist, specialist = forestry|rat_extermination|... or whatever. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] short 2nd RFC for additional barrier values

2011-08-31 Thread ael
. But I do note the comments on post_and_chain. Thus I think post_and_chain and cable_barrier are varieties of fence. The others seem fine. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2012-07-13 Thread ael
think of any other use-case. Apart from a survey of fountains... ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-17 Thread ael
which is oddly restrictive. Mapnik doesn't seem to render the above. I used it on a boundary and would feel more comfortable with a landuse=? in that context. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread ael
entirely satisfactory. landuse=residential is certainly true, but these caravan parks are rather distinctive, not common, and IMHO need a distinctive tag. The hamlet tag would only be appropriate in the few cases when they are away from towns. ael ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Differences between crop and produce?

2012-11-19 Thread ael
with the American corn here. I agree with the others from the uk: in my experience maize is widely used and understood. Except, perhaps, in supermarkets. So -1. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] POIs

2012-12-07 Thread ael
this be a new thread? But anyway:- Would this not be a significant complication for standalone satnavs using, say, navit? A large proportion of POIs are very relevant in that context, so presumably a new mechanism for generating maps involving at least two distinct data bases would be required? ael

Re: [Tagging] Grades for obstacle=vegetation

2013-02-07 Thread ael
=* (where the verifiability isn't guarenteed). There is at least one omission: vegetation=noxious :-) Seriously, I have failed to map footpaths in the UK because of stinging nettles. Of course, there are far worse vegetable hazards... ael ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread ael
-crime area, and you are likely to be mugged. Hmm, it must be a fairly uncommonly used Australian term. As a uk native speaker, footpad is an old term for A highwayman or robber on foot. as at least one dictionary has it. And that is the normal understanding in the uk. ael

[Tagging] generator:output:electricity - for photovoltaic panels?

2013-04-08 Thread ael
a generator:estimated_output:electricity or some such for wind and solar? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] railway=abandoned + highway=cycleway (was: [OSM-talk-be] Abandoned Railways / cycleways)

2013-04-17 Thread ael
Do you realize that you are posting in html? Not a good idea if you expect anyone to read... ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] incline default unit ?

2013-08-11 Thread ael
not suggest to add the default unit ? Well, it is a dimensionless quantity, so it doesn't have units. What did you really mean? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] incline default unit ?

2013-08-12 Thread ael
glance. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop values for _supply, _supplies, _supplement, _supplements?

2013-08-23 Thread ael
medical_supplies pet_supply pet_supplies nutrition_supplements nutrition_supplement As a native UK-English speaker, the plurals above are normal. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Proposal for new tag: landuse=plot

2013-09-18 Thread ael
survey and then adding multiple plots on a later more detailed survey makes me uncomfortable. Just an initial reaction: I haven't given this more than a minute or two of thought... ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Which map supports complete bridge rendering

2013-10-02 Thread ael
suggests that it will just work. But it doesn't. I imagine that with enough persistance and reading many more documents, it will eventually become clear, but I think a newbie needs to be warned that mkgmap needs a very large investment in time to understand how to use it effectively. ael

Re: [Tagging] Ferry frequency

2013-10-04 Thread ael
time. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Security Gate Post/Cabin

2013-12-08 Thread ael
On Sun, Dec 08, 2013 at 04:14:33PM +, Jonathan wrote: Wikipedia suggests a gatehouse as a medieval construction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatehouse building=gatehouse has been used 19 times, but in what context I don't know. +1. Agree that it is might be ambiguous.

Re: [Tagging] surface=ground/dirt/earth

2014-03-13 Thread ael
parts of the year) and maybe be rocky with sections of sand and gravel. I have just been mapping some paths and tracks on Bodmin Moor which have all these characteristics and no one tag seems really descriptive. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread ael
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:57:12PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: Have to disagree here. There are plenty of real uses for reversing a way, and not everyone uses JOSM. Colin +1 from someone who does use JOSM. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread ael
. As far as I can see, the only solution is to source-tag each object. Is there another solution? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-07-01 Thread ael
could add not-tags, but I don't and it would take too much time to check everything. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] About new landuses and superiority of cascading tag schemes

2014-07-27 Thread ael
when we have these (general) shop tags. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] default value for oneway

2014-08-29 Thread ael
or not? isn't going anywhere and normal mappers just won't add explicit tags in normal circumstances. You need a different approach and maybe what I say above can start the ball rolling. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

2014-09-03 Thread ael
describe. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

2014-10-21 Thread ael
(or building=retail?) is surely far better. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] man_made=adit_entrance

2014-12-08 Thread ael
, that suggests adit_entrance as well. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

2014-12-19 Thread ael
, for one, would be uncomfortable using a tag kids_area. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

2014-12-20 Thread ael
in the thread subject should actually be kids' areas. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-18 Thread ael
* disposal point was the usual term, though that was many years ago. I have been wondering if I was the only native UK English speaker who finds the term dump-station unintuitive and opaque. I also have never encountered the term in British English. So +1. ael

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-19 Thread ael
to everyone everywhere? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Draft - Sanitary Dump Station

2015-02-19 Thread ael
. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread ael
On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 03:27:17PM +0100, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi ael, Am 2015-03-09 um 15:22 schrieb ael: I have resorted to changing railway=abandoned to railway=disused on several occasions just to get mapnik and friends to render bridges. Bridges over roads and rivers are major

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread ael
of which seem to show these bridges). But they are not going to find all the other OSM based maps without digging fairly deeply. It is a pity that there isn't a prominent page in the wiki listing all/many of the other maps. Yes, I know it is a wiki, so I ought to add it myself... ael

[Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread ael
? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread ael
On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 04:14:58PM +0100, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, Am 2015-03-09 um 16:06 schrieb ael: Well, I have only changed the tag on the bridges themselves, and only on ways for which I did the original (and usually any subsequent) survey and edits. So I am not corrupting other

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

2015-03-10 Thread ael
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 08:50:36AM +1100, Warin wrote: On 10/03/2015 1:22 AM, ael wrote: I have resorted to changing railway=abandoned to railway=disused on several occasions just to get mapnik and friends to render bridges. Bridges over roads and rivers are major features of relevance

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - register

2015-03-06 Thread ael
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 11:40:23AM +, ael wrote: On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 11:08:44AM +0100, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/register This is for books where people enter their names, routes and comments. These books are located on peaks

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - register

2015-03-06 Thread ael
navigated to them long ago. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

2015-05-09 Thread ael
as wholesale which is something normally quite different. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

2015-05-09 Thread ael
trades are protected by law and a trade shop may refuse sales based on that .. usually safety related. Yes. That was the sort of thing I meant when I invented shop=trade... ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

2015-05-09 Thread ael
reduced prices since a business will order raesonable volume over time. In some cases that may approach wholesale prices. But this is different to wholesalers to refer back to an earlier post. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

2015-05-09 Thread ael
a building with the name matching the company as a compromise. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (nutrition_supplements)

2015-08-03 Thread ael
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:35:28PM -0500, John Eldredge wrote: Did anyone else see this message as containing only headers, but no message contents? That is how it rendered on my system. Same here. Presumably finger trouble? ael ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-18 Thread ael
ain tags as needed. Some values of trade might become redundant if a new main tag is invented, but that is ok. What am I missing? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-18 Thread ael
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:59:28PM +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 18 October 2015 at 12:55, ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > But really it was invented as a way to tag clear groups of places that > > had no obvious existing tags > > Do you have a source

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-18 Thread ael
would propose shop=*, access=trade/public although > the default of public would be assumed if no tag. Yes, you can have that as well, although using the same trade keyword is surely a potential source of confusion. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-18 Thread ael
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:59:28PM +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On 18 October 2015 at 12:55, ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > But really it was invented as a way to tag clear groups of places that > > had no obvious existing tags > > Do you have a source

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

2015-10-07 Thread ael
On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 03:58:23PM +0200, Daniel Koć wrote: > building_materials Very likely shop=trade and trade=building_supplies although perhaps it does not cater for professionals. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

2015-12-19 Thread ael
olphins, but I doubt it. As for better terms, swimming_pool is widely understood. swimming_facility is a bit ugly but perhaps. I don't really have any good suggestions, although something like sports_centre with a sub-tag swimming=yes seems to capture

Re: [Tagging] Do-it-yourself versus hardware stores versus trade

2016-02-11 Thread ael
reetmap.org/way/294108329>) incidentally have a small > hardware and paint shop (at radically inflated prices). Many of those cases are covered by shop=trade: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dtrade ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-01 Thread ael
On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 07:56:22PM +, Dave F wrote: > Sorry, but a gallery is not a museum +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Subject: Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=social_path

2016-03-26 Thread ael
his doesn't fully capture your particular edge case, > some sort of _additional_ tag: > > social_path=yes > +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=service major type sub-classification - mini vote

2016-04-17 Thread ael
not in car parks, so I simply omit any subtag. So I suggest that the existing sub tags need clear definitions before more values are defined. If there are to be further sub tags, let them be defined clearly. I don't think that has been done yet in this thread. ael _

Re: [Tagging] highway=service major type sub-classification - mini vote

2016-04-17 Thread ael
are typically wider than normal paths. You see why we need a clear definition? From your description, I can't see why highway=service with a width tag would not cover a US alley. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=service major type sub-classification - mini vote

2016-04-20 Thread ael
hicle access possible, even if that is not always the local understanding. But it needs to be stated on the wiki page if that is agreed. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] reviving an abandoned proposal

2016-07-22 Thread ael
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 05:07:36PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Il giorno 22 lug 2016, alle ore 14:18, ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> ha > > scritto: > > > > Well, if you do revive it, it needs to take account of places like > > Cornwall in

Re: [Tagging] Proposal for standardization of sidewalk schema (+ import)

2016-08-02 Thread ael
ected" relation of some sort? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Tag for a scrap yard?

2016-07-04 Thread ael
seemed to suggest that was for containers - recycling points where stuff was left. Which didn't seem to fit. I used amenity=scrap_yard and scrap-yard=metal until I had something better. I have just realized that I should really have asked on the tagging list, so will cc that in. Thanks for the reply. ae

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a scrap yard?

2016-07-05 Thread ael
or there is a need for more refined tagging. This fits with my previous comment that recycling_type=business feels like a better fit. "centre" does suggest somewhere open as a public facility. Both scrap yards near me are in old quarries and not n

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a scrap yard?

2016-07-05 Thread ael
On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 08:11:04AM +1000, Warin wrote: > On 7/5/2016 7:50 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 08:26:23PM +0100, Dan S wrote: > > >> 2016-07-04 20:20 GMT+01:00 ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com>: > > > > apparently the start

Re: [Tagging] reviving an abandoned proposal

2016-07-22 Thread ael
the older lanes and paths are "sunken", although I think by design rather than "fallen" over time. I haven't checked tag-info, but I don't remember seeing any with special tags like this. ael ___ Tagging mailing l

Re: [Tagging] reviving an abandoned proposal

2016-07-23 Thread ael
= hollow_way, and perhaps hollow_way=cutting | whatever where there is more information? OTOH, some of the deep historic cuttings illustrated earlier don't seem to me to fit the description hollow_way, which was perhaps the point. ael ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Public transport cards

2017-01-17 Thread ael
site from the operator to find out > when/where/how my bus/train is going. I would not even think of OSM… I have used /www.traveline.info/ which uses OSM although also additional data bases, I understand. A member of their team often posts here, I think. ael ___

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread ael
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 01:46:42PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-01-09 13:15 GMT+01:00 ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com>: > > > This thread has reminded me that I have encountered problems with > > mapping disused quarries and surface mining. > > > &

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-10 Thread ael
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 01:46:42PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-01-09 13:15 GMT+01:00 ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com>: > (relatively recently). For many years, OSM didn't have a way to map bridges > and was relying on indirect mapping methods (state on a hig

Re: [Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread ael
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 09.01.2017 13:15, ael wrote: > Please do not use "disused=yes" as it is considered troll-tagging, first > saying it is simething, and in the next line negating it. I don't think that is a natural interpretati

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] natural=heath

2017-01-13 Thread ael
k there. But I originally tried to respect as far as I could the work of another mapper. Having now seen the block and the the problems elsewhere, I would now be more radical in my corrections. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] What about a disused quarry and historic surface mining?

2017-01-09 Thread ael
less of any historic or disused tags. it would solve many such problems. Any suggestions: do we need new tags? ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-11 Thread ael
, water=pool to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:water, and tag accordingly. The existing tags do not cover these pools. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=recycling & recycling_type=dump

2017-03-11 Thread ael
;spiritual" about living matter and has no place in the 20th or 21st centuries. Most modern weedkillers are organic in the true sense of the word, however destructive and polluting they may be. Let's not encourage the further misuse and abuse of the term. green_waste seems OK,

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-14 Thread ael
sh, ponds are generally static. That is the term is usually used when there is little or no flow. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-14 Thread ael
ite > right. > They are part of the river with special properties. > > So perhaps > natural=water + water=river > + stream_pool=yes Good point, but why introduce a new term "stream_pool"? Why not just pool=yes? ael

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-14 Thread ael
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:27:40AM +1100, Warin wrote: > On 14-Mar-17 09:13 AM, ael wrote: > > > English is not my primary language, but it seems a little contradictory > > > here. > > > > > > "landuse" says that a specific piece of land is be

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-12 Thread ael
above are pools, just with extra information. water=lake is definitely unnatural. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-13 Thread ael
se: they are quarries. Yet some people object to them being rendered on the basis of the superficial contradiction that you highlight. Maybe we need a tag=out_of_use or some such? But that is open to the same literal objection. ael ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Landuse and disused

2017-03-13 Thread ael
ng and disused as the only possible documented tags. So how do I avoid being one of your trolls, preferably while still getting the major features in an area rendered? Yes, I do also use the historic tag as well, where appropriate, but that has even less chance of a p

Re: [Tagging] Beautified JSON presets for natural=tree

2017-07-22 Thread ael
ughshod over existing carefully mapped data, often using outdated imagery. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Beautified JSON presets for natural=tree

2017-07-23 Thread ael
oples work without going out and checking the reality. As above, I need then to avoid trampling on other people's work. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread ael
eying improves or plate tectonics changes, it would be ridiculous to change the name rather than just the elevation. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-25 Thread ael
s to fit very well with what you describe. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dtrade , although I don't know why the wiki page restricts it to equipment: it shouldn't. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstre

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-28 Thread ael
uld be redundant to invent another tag. Not sure what a more general tag would look like. As pointed out earlier, the same objection could be raised to "shop", which isn't the first word that comes to mind for the large establishments, but again shop has come to mea

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