Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:00 PM James Knott via talk wrote: > On 1/16/24 07:16, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > > CO-powered phones are still available > > Are they still CO powered? My home internet is still metered and charged as a DSL line (by Teksavvy), though I know my neighbourhood has

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 2024-01-16 17:23, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: My new connection at my new house that I moved to (OK I started moving things) about 10 days ago has rogers fibre service with phone running on that. There is definitely no battery in any of the equipment. So the ONT and the router would

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2024-01-15 18:15, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: In rural Canada (more accurately in rural Manitoba) - - - that this is surprising is actually quite astounding to me. Service is this bad in significant amounts of rural Canada. So bad in fact that emergency responders (flooding/forest fires) have

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 01:12:42PM -0500, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > Bell and Rogers are now both offering VOIP based home phone services. > I assume that they have batteries to keep things running in the event of a > power outage but It would be interesting to have someone on list confirm >

Re: [GTALUG] Doctorow: "Sympathy for the spammer"

2024-01-16 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
It is a good article but not universally true by a long shot, focusing on email-based activities. There are a number of scam-baiting channels on YouTube that lay bare the tactics of many phone scams, and I'm sorry but I'm not going to have much sympathy for those who aggressively harass people

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 11:27, mwilson--- via talk wrote: Help-desk people are forbidden to hang up, but if the customer terminated the call it would count as a problem resolution, and therefore a good thing. Several years ago, I was doing some work at a Bell customer, hooking up an Adtran router to Bell

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 10:21, Steve Petrie via talk wrote: My last Rogers interaction last week, had a Rogers sales rep ending his call to me, by shouting that I had just wasted his valuable time (because I had told him the technical reasons why I would rather pay a $18 / month Bell Canada premium, over

Re: [GTALUG] Doctorow: "Sympathy for the spammer"

2024-01-16 Thread Mark Prosser via talk
On 2024-01-16 13:16, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: A great article! I recommend that everyone read it. I concur! Pluralistic is a great add to anyone's RSS Feeds. He really nailed it with this one especially. I love how he kept harping on the scammer / desperate-scamee relationship:

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 07:16, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: CO-powered phones are still available Are they still CO powered?  Both Rogers and Bell are moving to VoIP over fibre to the neighbourhood.  There's an old Bell box near me, where the lines for the homes could connect to the cable.  It's been

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread James Knott via talk
On 1/16/24 02:45, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: They try to hide the fact that their "home phone" service is over VOIP. For one thing, I think that they have dedicated bandwidth so saturating your internet service won't break your phone service. Compared to the bandwidth customers have,

[GTALUG] Doctorow: "Sympathy for the spammer"

2024-01-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: mwilson--- via talk | Subject: Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct | technical answers] | Cory Doctorow posted a relevant article today: | https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/15/passive-income-brainworms/#four-hour-work-week | | Money quote: | "while we're

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread mwilson--- via talk
From: "Steve Petrie via talk" > [...] > This same brain-dead abusive Rogers sales loser, actually ended our call > by shouting "F**k You !!" at me, before he ended the call. Charming :) > Seemed to me his vituperative manner could have been a reflection of a > possibly desperate Rogers. I've

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread Steve Petrie via talk
Original Message SUBJECT: Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers DATE: 2024-01-16 08:54 FROM: Ron / BCLUG via talk TO:

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread Steve Petrie via talk
Original Message | From: Alvin Starr via talk Rogers has or had UPS built into the home phone box. And they have batteries on their neighbourhood boxes. (During a long power failure, they even brought a generator for the one near us.) [Steve Petrie] Nice to read

Re: [GTALUG] AI - Llama 2 an open source AI that can run on a Raspberry PI

2024-01-16 Thread Colin McGregor via talk
Here is what I got from the 13b model: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > A year from now, will everyone have forgotten about AI having moved on to > some other buzzword? Ha! Well, I'm not sure if anyone will ever forget about AI completely, but it's likely that the buzz around it will die down a

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread Ron / BCLUG via talk
Steve Petrie via talk wrote on 2024-01-16 05:41: A. SSO (single sign on) -- Is it an SSO offer, when my Firefox browser "helpfully" asks me if I would like it [my browser] to "remember" my login credentials ?? No, SSO where one signs in to a site they've never visited via their Google

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 00:56, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > google authenticator has a chrome extension you can use. > I use a package called authy that has a desktop version. For RFC 6238 Timed-based One-time Password (TOTP), which most sites that offer TOTP use, I use the Google Authenticator

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread Steve Petrie via talk
[snip] [Steve Petrie] Is it EVEN POSSIBLE for a clever hacker to spoof my email inbox and steal my inbound email messages ?? [Alvin Starr] In theory yes. If they can gain control of your DNS entries they could redirect your MX but that is low risk. If they get your login they could insert

Re: [GTALUG] landline power [was Re: "AI" on getting correct technical answers]

2024-01-16 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:46 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > (The old Bell system had large lead-acid batteries in the COs. Old handsets > were actually powered by the CO. Modern ones have their own power for > many functions. So we used to expect the phone to work during "hydro" >

Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

2024-01-16 Thread ac via talk
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 23:38:58 -0500 Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > I had no obviously easy to know where your posting from. > I guess the thing is that your posting to a Greater Toronto Area LUG > from away. > There is no reason why you should not do that, its just the > assumption that your