Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Garmin relationship?

2011-06-30 Thread Matthias Julius
Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com writes: I would guess that the 'warranty' comment is just the typical corporate reaction to questions of liability, perhaps combined with a lack of understanding of open data. Especially when you consider that when you turn on your device you get a warning saying

Re: [Talk-de] ebook-Karte auf Kindle

2011-06-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de schrieb: Hallo, Am 27.06.11 schrieb Wolfgang Barth: Was ich mich schon immer gefragt habe war, warum es kein GPS-Gerät mit e-paper Anzeige gibt. Auch diese transflexiven Displays sind bei Sonnenlicht nur schlecht ablesbar. Für

Re: [Talk-de] ebook-Karte auf Kindle

2011-06-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de schrieb: Am 27.06.11 schrieb Matthias Julius: Also ich habe mit meinem Garmin GPSmap 60 keine Probleme bei Sonnenschein. Das funktioniert so gut, dass ich mich immer frage, warum niemand solche Displays in Handies einbaut. - kein

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder für JOSM

2011-06-26 Thread Matthias Julius
malenki o...@malenki.ch writes: Stephan Knauss schrieb: Da die Bilder allerdings aus vielen Einzelbildern zusammengesetzt werden kann sich der Versatz nach ein paar Kilometern geändert haben. Soweit ich weiß, werden alle Bilder mit einem Höhendatenmodell nachberechnet, um Verzerrungen zu

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz schrieb: The link looks good. I'll make sure any future license change related stuff goes here as well as our normal announce mailings. For me the preferred and most natural way of receiving announcements is the announce mailing list. Announcements on talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Matthias Julius
NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de schrieb: Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: Well there was an announcement on 14th June on this list and others by Mike Collinson saying that we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. For anyone who had already

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing aerial imagery priorities

2011-06-18 Thread Matthias Julius
David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au writes: On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 09:16 -0500, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: when all the nearmap-derived data is removed It seems like you missed an email a couple of days ago? Current

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing aerial imagery priorities

2011-06-17 Thread Matthias Julius
Steve Coast st...@asklater.com schrieb: I'm speaking personally and there are no guarantees here but I'd like to get input on what areas you would like Bing to prioritise for aerial and/or satellite imagery in the coming year. Large areas of Switzerland have pretty low resolution. A couple

Re: [OSM-talk] Users who disagree to ODbL but want PD / CC0

2011-06-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com writes: On 16 June 2011 18:55, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: I know at least one person who does exactly that just because he wants to harm the OSMF because he disagrees with the processes - not with the outcome, though. The harm he's doing is to the

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwegeverlauf und Kartenwerk der Landesvermessung

2011-06-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Johannes Huesing johan...@huesing.name writes: Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de [Mon, May 30, 2011 at 08:12:52PM CEST]: André Joost wrote: Ein Tourismusverband, der unbedingt *seine* Rechte *nicht* weitergeben will, kann uns daher u.U. einen Strick draus drehen, wenn wir einfach

Re: [Talk-de] amazon.de-affiliate für OSM?

2011-05-30 Thread Matthias Julius
Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com writes: P.S: Neulich bei Amazon gesehen: MARCO POLO Karten 1:150.000 Kreta: Mit landwirtschaftlich schönen Strecken ... :-) Rapsfelder z.B. sind doch recht nett anzusehen. Matthias ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org schrieb: Hi, On 05/19/2011 06:44 AM, Hermann Peifer wrote: Are the boundary polygons that you use for clipping available somewhere? I do vaguely remember that I have seen them earlier, but I can't find them anymore. No, they aren't publicly available but I

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org schrieb: Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: One option would be to run osmosis with clipIncompleteEntities=false (the default). That would not increase the burden on your box and still allow the extracts to be merged. Of course, this would leave it up

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin: Mehrere Länder in einer gmapsupp.img?

2011-05-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Joerg Fischer o...@jfis.de schrieb: NopMap wrote: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=11792-- Dnke. Der Tipp zu osmchange war genau das was ich brauchte. Für den geneigten Mitleser: Entgegen seinem Namen ist osmchange nicht nur für das Nachziehen von täglichen Differenzen, es

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Matthias Julius
Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com schrieb: Altogether, I think those daily country extracts are one of the most useful tools for working with OSM data, so I'd like to send a great thanks to Geofabrik for providing the resource to offer this valuable service. I agree. But, I need to point out

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: Matthias, Matthias Julius wrote: But, I need to point out again that theese extracts are not quite as useful as they could be, IMHO. Unless something has been changed, ways that cross the bounding polygon are trunkated at the last node inside

Re: [Talk-de] Share Alike für Datenbanken mit Vektordaten

2011-05-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Simon Poole si...@poole.ch writes: Was soll das Problem sein (hat Fredierik aber auch schon in Detail aufgezeigt)? a) aus Eigeninteresse wird wohl was zurückfliessen, denn was nützen Karten die nicht aktuell gehalten werden. Was soll zurückfliessen? Das Aktuellhalten erledigt ja OSM. b)

Re: [Talk-de] Cycleways - oftmals falsch getaggt

2011-04-29 Thread Matthias Julius
Simon Poole si...@poole.ch writes: Die Quelle für Leute die richtiges Englisch sprechen (hab hier grad leider nur ne kleine Version davon) sagt unter Anderem dazu: path 1 a way or track laid down for walking or made by continual treading, 2 the line along which a person or thing moves

Re: [Talk-de] Cycleways - oftmals falsch getaggt

2011-04-29 Thread Matthias Julius
Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de writes: Am 29.04.11 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: geht es um Höflichkeit, wenn man sein Mapping den lokalen Gepflogenheiten anpassen soll? Ich empfinde es als höflich, ein einheitliches Kartenbild zu wahren, auch wenn es zu unterschiedlichem

Re: [Talk-de] Auswertung der ersten Reaktionen auf Lizenzwechsel Phase 3

2011-04-28 Thread Matthias Julius
Sebastian Hohmann m...@s-hohmann.de schrieb: Am 27.04.2011 10:45, schrieb Sven Geggus: Sebastian Hohmannm...@s-hohmann.de wrote: Das Argument hab ich nie verstanden. Was definierst du denn als Missbrauch? Und seit wann sind Firmen verpflichtet etwas zurückzugeben? Share Alike Lizenzen

Re: [Talk-de] Cycleways - oftmals falsch getaggt

2011-04-26 Thread Matthias Julius
Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org schrieb: Am 2011-04-26 13:30 schrieb Henning Scholland: Diesem Weg darf jeder benutzen. Das ist ja das geniale: highway=path alleine darf jeder nutzen, highway=path in Kombination mit somespecialfoobar=designated darf eben nur noch somespecialfoobar benutzen. Das

Re: [Talk-de] Kein Quellen-/Lizenzhinweis

2011-04-14 Thread Matthias Julius
bundesrainer o...@bundesrainer.de writes: Am 13.04.2011 15:37, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 13.04.2011 15:13, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Macht sie irgendwie unglaubwürdig... Dass sie unabhängig von OSM sogar ihre eigenen Inhalte unter CC-BY-SA stellen, würde ich positiv hervorheben. Dass sie

Re: [Talk-de] alternative API-Dienste nutzen

2011-04-12 Thread Matthias Julius
Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net writes: Am 11.04.2011 21:09, schrieb Carsten Gerlach: Am Montag 11 April 2011 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 10.04.2011 19:34, schrieb Florian Gross: Note that bbox queries have a maximum of 10 square degrees.

Re: [Talk-de] alternative API-Dienste nutzen

2011-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net writes: hi ! es gibt ja zwischenzeitlich jxapi und auch von mapquest eine entprechende alternativen. Bei beiden habe ich aber festgestellt das http://open.mapquestapi.com/xapi/api/0.6/way[shop=farm][bbox=4.6582031,45.0890356,16.875,55.5783447]

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-04-03 Thread Matthias Julius
David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au writes: Based on andrzej's email correspondence, where it was pointed out that the relevant point in ToS is in regards to 'mass downloads or bulk feeds of any content', I assume this means that we cant automate the process from googles resources (such as the

Re: [Talk-de] Neue Nuklearkarte Deutschland

2011-04-02 Thread Matthias Julius
fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com writes: Am 02.04.2011 15:39, schrieb Jens Frank: Zur Standortbewertung müsste man sich natürlich noch anschauen, ob man nicht evtl in der Nähe ausländischer AKWs wäre. Frankreich stellt seine AKWs z.B. gerne in Grenznähe auf. Die Schweiz ist da auch nicht

Re: [OSM-talk] Extracting a BBOX from an osm change file

2011-03-11 Thread Matthias Julius
Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com writes: * Rodolphe Quiedeville rodol...@quiedeville.org [2011-03-11 13:39 +0100]: I want to know if changes files from planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly-replicate/ are useful for a BBOX. My first idea wass to to this with osmosis, if someone give me a hint. You

Re: [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites

2011-03-11 Thread Matthias Julius
Jo winfi...@gmail.com writes: About that tag, it makes sense if there actually is a bicycle path, but when it's a street where only bicycles can go in two directions, wouldn't it make more sense to use one_way:bicycle=no? Well, you can propose to change the tagging scheme, but the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Thread Matthias Julius
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:45:14 +1100, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I've decided to just ignore the CTs for now, and continue to operate under CC BY-SA. Others are doing this to, and you could too, assuming you haven't agreed to the CTs and you don't actually plan to sit around

Re: [Talk-de] imagery-Plugin Luftbild verschiebe

2010-12-08 Thread Matthias Julius
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 11:44:57 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 2. Dezember 2010 20:18 schrieb Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: Man müsste auf Serverseite irgendwie die Möglichkeit haben dem Plugin zu sagen hör mal meine Daten sind gut, schalte verschieben bitte

Re: [Talk-de] Großes Multipolygon (50k Nodes) h ochladen

2010-12-06 Thread Matthias Julius
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:26:46 -0800 (PST), Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de wrote: hi thomas, immer noch serbien? ok, spltte die tausende neuen ways in kleinere pakete auf und packe jeweils die passenden neuen nodes dazu. alles ids negativ aber im osm-file eindeutig. jedes file darf

Re: [Talk-de] Großes Multipolygon (50k Nodes) h ochladen

2010-12-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de writes: Matthias Julius wrote: Ansonsten hat JOSM eine Funktion, die Daten häppchenweise hochzuladen. Im englischen JOSM heisst die Chunked Upload. Da kann man dann festlegen, wieviele Objekte per Upload JOSM hochladen soll. das ist dann doch immer

Re: [Talk-de] Bing und SlippyMap

2010-12-03 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 15:47:52 +0100, UMAX974 umax...@googlemail.com wrote: Hallo, Hab gerade nach der Anleitung mein gut funktionierendes WMS (auch mit Bing) und slippymap ausgenockt und imaginary als einziges Plugin aktiviert. ^ so nu is Bing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
adca03156...@localhost fca549be3ecf9d4cb8cb8576837ea4890a7...@zeus.cetest.local Message-ID: 90c6e47a092dece1a7770a5cb6164...@localhost X-Sender: li...@julius-net.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3.1 On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:39:46 +0100, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT, section 3

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:47:14 +0100, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer schrieb: There seems to be a substantial number of OSMF members who consider all data created by individuals to be community-owned, even going so far as to accuse people who refuse to accept the

Re: [Talk-de] Frage an die Nutzer von Geofabrik-Extrakten

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:24:46 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Die Geofabrik-Extrakte verhalten sich also ab jetzt so: 1. alle Nodes im betreffenden Gebiet sind enthalten 2. alle Ways, die einen dieser Nodes nutzen, sind enthalten, allerdings werden sie um die Nodes gekuerzt,

Re: [Talk-de] Frage an die Nutzer von Geofabrik-Extrakten

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 01:32:45 -0800 (PST), NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: Hi! Matthias Julius wrote: Zu 2. und 3.: Ich fände es deutlich besser, wenn Objekte in den Extrakten nicht modifiziert würden. Dann wären grenzüberschreitende Objekte eben unvollständig. Eine verarbeitende

Re: [Talk-de] Frage an die Nutzer von Geofabrik-Extrakten

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:32:00 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hallo, On 11/26/10 11:54, Matthias Julius wrote: Was passiert eigentlich mit Wegen, die die Grenze mehrfach kreuzen? Kriegt dann jedes Fragment eine eigene ID? Man kann ja nicht einfach nur die Knoten weglassen

Re: [Talk-de] Frage an die Nutzer von Geofabrik-Extrakten

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:57:33 +0100, André Joost andre+jo...@nurfuerspam.de wrote: Am 26.11.10 12:42, schrieb Matthias Julius: Das ist ja dann noch ein Grund, die Wege nicht zu verstümmeln. Wenn von einem Weg ein Knoten nicht im Extrakt enthalten ist, kann die Applikation entscheiden, wie

Re: [Talk-de] Frage an die Nutzer von Geofabrik-Extrakten

2010-11-26 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:32:51 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hallo Matthias, On 11/26/10 12:42, Matthias Julius wrote: Das ist ja dann noch ein Grund, die Wege nicht zu verstümmeln. Wenn von einem Weg ein Knoten nicht im Extrakt enthalten ist, kann die Applikation

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:56:54 +, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 11/25/2010 01:33 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: That is turning reality upside down. The only reason for any license is to restrict any user of data/map/dbase or whatever the license is

Re: [Talk-de] Lokalisierung und bessere Suche in Taginfo

2010-11-23 Thread Matthias Julius
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:42:51 +0100, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Außerdem wurde die Suche komplett überarbeitet. Es wird jetzt in Keys und in Values gesucht. Dabei wird eine Prefix-Suche verwendet, d.h. max findet maxspeed, aber nicht betamax. Bestandteile eines Keys oder Values, die

Re: [Talk-de] Werden IDs von gelöschten Objekten wiede r vergeben?

2010-11-23 Thread Matthias Julius
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:38:24 +0100 (CET), Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: Am 23.11.10 schrieb Jochen Topf: Die ID wird niemals neu vergeben. Auch deswegen, weil gelöschte Objekte ja noch da sind. Sie werden nur als gelöscht gekennzeichnet, aber sie sind mit allen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Best license for future tiles?

2010-11-17 Thread Matthias Julius
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2010/11/17 Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:20:39 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Btw: isn't a rendering a derived database as well? A database of pixels?  I would not regard a printed

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM-Update bei Ubuntu

2010-11-17 Thread Matthias Julius
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:13:04 +0100, Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de wrote: ich oute mich hier mal: Für mein Suse gibt es das schon lange. Die OSM-Pakete werden von den Entwicklern in ein eigenes Repository geschoben, das über pin gefunden und in die normale Softwareverwaltung eingebunden

Re: [Talk-de] Grünflächen in Wohnanlagen

2010-11-17 Thread Matthias Julius
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:08:03 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 17. November 2010 16:22 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net: Hi ! das geht aber immer mehr in Richtung PARK ! Gruß Jan :-) ich würde wohl landuse=residential lassen (wenn die Rasenflächen

Re: [Talk-de] Pumpwerk der Entsorgung

2010-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:53:41 +0100, Andreas Labres l...@lab.at wrote: On 16.11.10 08:14, Guenther Meyer wrote: type = sewer Ich bin jetzt im Englischen auch nicht sooo fit, aber für mein Gefühl ist sewer eher das einzelne Abflussrohr, der Abwasserkanal, während das Abwasser (als

Re: [Talk-de] Pumpwerk der Entsorgung

2010-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:20:50 +0100, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 16.11.2010 09:06, schrieb Matthias Julius: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:53:41 +0100, Andreas Labresl...@lab.at wrote: On 16.11.10 08:14, Guenther Meyer wrote: type = sewer Ich bin jetzt im Englischen auch nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Pumpwerk der Entsorgung

2010-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:49:36 +0100, Torsten Leistikow de_m...@gmx.de wrote: Die Frage hier ist doch mal wieder, aus welchem Blickwinkel man ein Objekt betrachtet: A) Es handelt sich hierbei grob gesagt um ein Objekt der Abwasserentsorgung. Und wenn man das genauer betrachtet, sieht man,

Re: [Talk-de] Tagwatch vs. tagstat

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Julius
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:55:57 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 15. November 2010 10:22 schrieb Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: Ich habe versucht mit der Karte, wo die Keys sind, so ein bischen die Geographie mit zu berücksichtigen. Ich will das auch noch weiter

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM-Update bei Ubuntu

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Julius
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:48:51 +0100, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: Im Web habe ich unter [1] eine Anleitung gefunden, das josm-tested.jar heruntergeladen und sudo mv ./Desktop/josm-tested.jar /usr/share/java/ ausgeführt. Das Jar war danach auch vom Desktop verschwunden -

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM-Update bei Ubuntu

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Julius
Guido Scholz guido.sch...@bayernline.de writes: Die eigentliche josm-Version versteckt sich hier: /usr/share/josm/josm-0.0.svn3514.jar Man erkennt auch gleich welche svn-Version vorliegt. Genug der vielen Worte. Meine Variante besteht nun darin, diese alte Version durch eine neue zu

Re: [Talk-de] Förderbandbrücke

2010-11-12 Thread Matthias Julius
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:37:26 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 12. November 2010 11:16 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 12.11.2010 10:58, schrieb Frank Martin: Ich meine für Güter, nicht für Menschen. für Güter wäre der korrekte englische Begriff

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-dev] [Tagging] Super-relations or not

2010-11-02 Thread Matthias Julius
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 01:02:37 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: As far as I'm concerned, the difference in what's required to tag things is minimal between these concerns.  Therefore, wouldn't it make the most

Re: [OSM-talk] Villain?

2010-05-14 Thread Matthias Julius
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es writes: On Friday 14 May 2010 15:03:25 Nakor wrote: I take you to the word. Can you please help me finding out what in the software I use (JOSM) and/or my workflow is seriously wrong? Not running the Validator plugin frequently enough. It detects,

Re: [OSM-talk] Villain?

2010-05-14 Thread Matthias Julius
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes: It's not so simple. This changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4300452 made me a villain when I selectively undid a so-called hero's indiscriminate joining of highways to boundaries, power lines, and pipelines:

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-12 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com writes: On 9 April 2010 15:30, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com writes: 3) Prefix, body, suffix is available from the TIGER data, but what about streets that have already been added (or corrected) by users

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 12:23 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: i don't think anyone would argue with this. it's why having a bot rampage through fixing things is probably a Real Bad Idea unless it's extremely well thought out and comprehensively tested

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com writes: 3) Prefix, body, suffix is available from the TIGER data, but what about streets that have already been added (or corrected) by users? As we've seen, a bot won't always be able to correctly make these separations (as in the example of Southbay vs. South

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com writes: On 9 April 2010 15:06, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 12:23 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: i don't think anyone would argue with this. it's why having a bot rampage through

Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-04-07 Thread Matthias Julius
andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com writes: Hi, On 7 April 2010 07:36, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: The Editing Standards and Conventions (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions;) page says: In the name tag, enter the full name as it appears on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Editor without relation-support makes sense?

2010-03-25 Thread Matthias Julius
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de writes: Not supporting relations is impossible anyway; the API will not allow the deletion of a node that is part of a relation. Will this apply to the node3 in the example above as well, because the node itself is not member of the relation. It is only part of a way,

Re: [OSM-talk] Are Yahoo street maps legal? (as JOSM WMS layer via desktopwms)

2010-03-01 Thread Matthias Julius
Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I recently discovered destopwms [1] and it is a great utility that enables OSM, Yahoo and Google maps as WMS layers in JOSM. OSM layer is great because it is easier to map when can see the map at the same time. Do you know the slippymap

Re: [Talk-us] US highway tagging and relations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Jeff Barlow j...@wb6csv.net writes: Shows how? This is not obvious to me. Are there examples somewhere? If they are not connected then are we supposed to move them around till they are? If so how does one guess where they are supposed to go? There is a sort button in the relation editor (the

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us writes: What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs. From what I understand the ref is supposed to be only the interstate/highway number (e.g. 90 or 80) and not I 90 (MN). And I don't like this at all. First, this seems to be different than how

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying InterstateRelations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Mike N. nice...@att.net writes: Second, separating out the highway system requires the data consuming application to know how to piece things back together. Otherwise, a shield on a map for example with just a 25 in it is pretty limited in use. After / if a generalized shield solution is

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-08 Thread Matthias Julius
Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us writes: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us writes: What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs.   From what I understand the ref is supposed to be only the interstate/highway

Re: [Talk-us] Use of highway=tertiary

2010-01-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com writes: Stellan Lagerstrom lagerst...@blindsight.com writes: We have a user (mk408) who seems intent on turning 3/4 of all residential streets in the bay area into tertiary. This seems excessive to me. Most of these are just residential streets, not

Re: [Talk-us] Marking closed bridges

2009-12-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes: On 12/3/09 11:27 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 12/3/09 11:00 PM, David Fawcett wrote: I agree that it would be good to have a standard answer. I am thinking that the tag should be used for both symbology and connectivity. i'm going

Re: [Talk-us] What's causing rendering artifacts in the Southeast?

2009-11-27 Thread Matthias Julius
David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like t...@home needs to trim data at the tile border, and then close open ways along the border of the tile... Just my uneducated opinion. Let's say you have a tile

Re: [Talk-us] What's causing rendering artifacts in the Southeast?

2009-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com writes: Oops I spoke too soon. There is a relation. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/304245 I still think this is the probable source of the problem though. Perhaps someone with more experience with relations could take a look? I don't know all the

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
David Lynch djly...@gmail.com writes: Agreed. I can understand not wanting to abbreviate words that don't have a standard abbreviation, but the USPS is the de-facto arbiter of how addresses (and therefore street names) are written in the United States, and they have a well-defined list of

Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Greg Williamson gwilliamso...@yahoo.com writes: Just out of curiosity, how do our European companeros deal with things like 2-Bis ? Most of the addresses I have seen in the US with letters tend to be campuses and business parks as opposed to street addresses. A legit address in France -- #2

Re: [Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

2009-11-14 Thread Matthias Julius
Randy rwtnospam-new...@yahoo.com writes: Matthias Julius wrote: Randy rwtnospam-new...@yahoo.com writes: Dale Puch wrote: Would it be improper to tag the true Wal-Mart services to the building way, (either using semicolons or shop_n and amenity_n, and the partnered services (McDonald's, etc

Re: [Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

2009-11-13 Thread Matthias Julius
Randy rwtnospam-new...@yahoo.com writes: Dale Puch wrote: For the same reason as doing nodes at a mall or similar. To know the stores/services available, not just the type of stuff that is usually there. If your tagging fast food, why would you not tag the McDonalds in the super walmart as

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-03 Thread Matthias Julius
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net writes: 80n wrote: What percentage of data would other people feel willing to see sacrificed in order to move forward with the new license? I'd be interested to see this related to our userbase and editing stats. If (say) we lose 5%, how many months

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

2009-02-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Celso González ce...@mitago.net writes: I dont understand the -1 or reserved value, what that means? one way yes/true/1 but in the opposite direction of the way? Exactly. Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

2009-02-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: You could create an architect relation and have the buildings be members of that. that looks like a category, not a relation: I was under the impression

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

2009-02-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk writes: Matthias Julius wrote: What is the definition of a category here? I would call a category something like buildings that are 29 strories tall. An architect I would call an (abstract) object that can have other attributes as well like

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

2009-02-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk writes: Matthias Julius wrote: I just prefer to explicitly link objects together over duplication of data. As long as the buildings are tagged consistently, having the tag is probably enough -- you can then use XAPI to query the DB for all

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest Boundaries

2009-02-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Theodore Book tb...@libero.it wrote: I have put the various proposals on the wiki at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Forest_Service_Data It seems like the landuse=forest tag has a fair amount of consensus,

Re: [OSM-talk] Large OSM globe style images

2009-02-18 Thread Matthias Julius
Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se writes: Hi, one of the Marble developers here... I noticed that Marble shows the map right up to the poles. These are not covered by Mercator maps. So I suspect Marble stretches the map a little bit leading to some inaccuracies like water reaching almost

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

2009-02-18 Thread Matthias Julius
Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmu...@arjam.net writes: Frankie Roberto wrote: Looking through Tagwatch I noticed that both artist=* and artist_name=* have been used (presumably for public sculptures and art installation), and I did wonder whether architect_name=* would be better. It seems that

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code

2009-02-18 Thread Matthias Julius
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com wrote: I hope I'm not alone in saying Thank You! :-D OSB is a wonderful resource that many of us couldn't live without. I know a few people were sceptical due to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Large OSM globe style images

2009-02-18 Thread Matthias Julius
Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se writes: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 20:43:35 Matthias Julius wrote: Inge Wallin i...@lysator.liu.se writes: Hi, one of the Marble developers here... I noticed that Marble shows the map right up to the poles. These are not covered by Mercator maps. So I

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Matthias Julius
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk writes: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: So, we have a pile of good intentioned legacy here. OGD carries posts on all sorts of open geo data stuff in the early days (Aug 2004) including the most important one http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=2 relating to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg

2009-02-11 Thread Matthias Julius
Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.de writes: Am 11.02.2009 13:18, Gert Gremmen: Kenneth: does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'? Do you know any mapping application accessible for everyone having internet ??? *cough* http://www.google.com/mapmaker *cough* And the thing is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg

2009-02-11 Thread Matthias Julius
Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk writes: Maybe something more akin to openstreetbugs plus a simple guided way to add one feature at a time should be integrated into OSM, but I wouldn't use GMM as an example except of what not to do! We certainly should not try to emulate their bugs.

Re: [OSM-talk] Long Ways and API 0.6

2009-02-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: There being multiple relations for the same walking route is something that happens every day, not because of the size limit but because someone working on a local bit of the route might not be aware of someone else working on another local bit

Re: [OSM-talk] Long Ways and API 0.6

2009-02-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: What I don't like here is that this leads to duplication of data. Super-relations are fine, but IMHO tags should be moved to the super-relation. They should, but I would postpone that until later. Yes. I just like

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Milenko mile...@king-nerd.com writes: As far as I know, the ROMA servers return data as close as possible to the main API. They should be no more than 3-5 minutes behind the main API. Please correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!). But they still don't implement the whole API.

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness

2009-02-02 Thread Matthias Julius
Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk writes: 2009/2/2 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Ulf Lamping wrote: Yes, if it would use descriptive terms it might solve some problems. But if you think of a better solution it gets really difficult to find better terms thats aimed towards

Re: [OSM-talk] when do 12 TAH tiles render?

2009-01-31 Thread Matthias Julius
Vikas Yadav vikas.ya...@threebrix.com writes: Just a casual query about what is the schedule to render TAH tiles below z12. I had changed many things in North India maps and those zoom levels still show tiles. They get stitched togetcher from z12 tiles after the rendering of a z12 tiles was

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk writes: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:50:37PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote: On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, or historic names of towns and villages. The TIGER import

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes: On 27 Jan 2009, at 20:46, Erik Lundin wrote: Hi, I had a similar problem earlier this month. The correspondence can be found in the mail archives: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-January/thread.html#33157 The problem is

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk writes: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:36:08PM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: That's actually error prone if someone enters a semicolon who doesn't know about the rule. I think that should better be reversed or '\;' be used as separator because this is much less

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping driveways

2009-01-24 Thread Matthias Julius
Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com writes: First of all, you should NEVER remove anything from the database, unless you have made certain by your own eye that the object in question is an error and not existing in reality! Even than take care not to remove anything marked as abandoned

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org writes: On Friday 23 Jan 2009 6:00:08 pm Sven Rautenberg wrote: if the way is layer=0 and the bridge is layer=0 too (the crossing way under is layer=-1, digged) then the bridge has no ramps. Something with negative layer has to be a tunnel. Bridges are

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Gerda og Carsten gerdaogcars...@toensberg.dk writes: I am unable to remove way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4596756 from the relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/21359 I am thus also unable to delete way 4596756 which is overlapping another way also beeing part

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net writes: (Forwarding to list) Am Friday 23 January 2009 17:28:17 schrieben Sie: As I understood the text of the wiki when I first started, layer 0 is the general level of the terrain, so levels 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 are above the ground on successively higher bridges,

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