Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with diffs

2018-05-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/05/2018 19:21, Andrzej Kępys wrote: OsmosisRuntimeException: The replication state doesn't contain a timestamp property. Any idea where can I post/report this? Here (or the dev list) is as good a place as any :) What this normally means is that osmosis has somehow "become confused" -

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/07/2018 11:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3. Lipiec 2018 12:26 od t.pfei...@computer.org :  > Removing the FIXME tag reduces the learning curve for map editors. What specific skill is to be learned here? Not skill but knowledge - that fixme and FIXME

Re: [OSM-talk] Database on readonly?

2018-07-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/07/2018 11:29, Maarten Deen wrote: What is the problem? Is there maintenance going on? Nothing on the "announce" list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ , but it was mentioned at https://mobile.twitter.com/osm_tech (and in last week's OSM weekly news) Best Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-10 Thread Andy Townsend
> So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't > incorrect, it's just not documented. I'd suggest that it depends what you're mapping. If it's a predominantly linear feature then it would be wrong to try and "somehow record the width" using area=yes on the highway tag

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/08/2018 12:35, Rory McCann wrote: What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) less contentious (since a building is a building is a b

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this Antarctic airfield exist?

2018-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/18 19:59, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Sunday 23 September 2018, Dave F wrote: Ever heard of this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62799981 No, that's fake. With a DWG hat on I've sent them a "message that they have to read before continuing to edit".  Are any of the changes

[OSM-talk] Garmin GPS and OSM-based maps (was: Re: How to get an overview of multiple gpx on OSM map?)

2018-11-06 Thread Andy Townsend
Whilst it's great that Garmin are offering the convenience pre-installed OSM-based maps, it's worth bearing in mind that there are lots of free download options - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap for creating your own and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Downl

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql diff application with filtered OSM data

2018-11-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/11/2018 16:16, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: Usually people also clip minutely osc, as per day database grows by a small country otherwise. There's a worked example of that (in a slightly different context) at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SomeoneElse/Ubuntu_1804_til

Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd party API integration

2018-11-17 Thread Andy Townsend
I'd imagine there are plenty of examplea that use OSM street name and place information to hang other data or queries off. One example off the top of my head was an application that I was involved with a few years ago tracking police "stop and search" requests in London, but there are plenty of

Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd party API integration

2018-11-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/11/2018 18:23, Sebastian Kürten wrote: Interesting point. Do you have an example for something misspelled that returns interesting result on search engines? No, because normally if I see something mispelt in OSM I'll fix it :) Best Regards, Andy _

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

2018-11-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/11/2018 13:09, Tomas Straupis wrote: Can you give an example where things in OpenStreetMap are mapped in a different way than overwhelming majority of world thinks? If "the UN" counts for "the overwhelming majority of the world", there are quite a few examples. The UN recognises terr

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

2018-11-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/11/2018 19:43, Tomas Straupis wrote: Do you know a country which has a fluctuating representation of its borders say in schoolbooks? In my lifetime, lots - countries (and I don't mean where boundaries changed, but the external recogition of them did).  For example, the US only recog

[OSM-talk] admin_level=2 overlaps (was: Re: OSMF silently sides with Russia?)

2018-11-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/11/2018 13:47, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2018, Ilya Zverev wrote: [...] To conclude, if we remove Kafia Kingi from the South Sudan relation, there will be no notable violations to the 2013 agreement on our map — though only by means of having one country overlap an

Re: [OSM-talk] admin_level=2 overlaps

2018-11-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/11/2018 14:48, Ilya Zverev wrote: After I sent the message, I’ve read in the wiki about this part of Serbian-Croatian border: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/45.7313/18.9257 Also apparently part of the border of the Netherlands https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF makes a political decision where should be a technical solution?

2018-11-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/11/2018 15:34, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: I suspect the "default" is what the community took the main issue with. DWG essentially declaring that there must be a single truth for non-overlapping country borders is what seems to have caused all this. Simply saying that every country can defi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF makes a political decision where should be a technical solution?

2018-11-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/11/2018 16:36, Tomas Straupis wrote: 2018-11-23, pn, 18:23 Andy Townsend rašė: Yuri, I suspect that literally every statement that the DWG has made throughout this process has said exactly the opposite of what you've just suggested that we said. You're saying DWG position

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF makes a political decision where should be a technical solution?

2018-11-24 Thread Andy Townsend
cognised that Russia now controls Crimea.  By all means lobby the developers of maps based on OSM data about how they show particular countries to particular audiences, and ensure that (where verifiable) data is contained within OSM to allow those maps to be made, but please don't say th

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-10 Thread Andy Townsend
ria ("The UN", the CIA's "World Factbook", or anything else) for boundaries isn't going to work - there are simply too many edge cases.  Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AivEQmfPpk if you haven't already seen it for some of the gory detail. Best Regards

[OSM-talk] What is OSM for? (was: Re: Ground truth for non-physical objects)

2018-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2018 13:05, Tomas Straupis wrote: ... I do not imagine how would it be possible to capture all that "on the ground" without an army of mappers devoted specifically to this very boring and uninteresting but useful class - addresses. If you're looking for a project that essentially mirro

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Candidate's views? Re: Board decision on Crimea complaint

2018-12-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/12/2018 13:45, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: [...] The decision of the DWG was absolutely correct according to the rules that OSM imposed on itself. I think the board here is opening Pandora's box. It will certainly be interesting to see how all the controversial areas will be judged from

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

2018-12-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/12/2018 10:40, Tomas Straupis wrote: What is "ground" in this term for non physical objects: 1. Physical place which could have some traces of an actual object. 2. Ground where non-physical objects actually live - documents. The whole point of the "verifiability" and "ground tr

Re: [OSM-talk] UJEM (Unidentified JOSM Error Message)

2018-12-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/12/2018 16:25, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: "Error retrieving Cluster(s) Would you like to suppress further notifications" This string does not seem to be present in JOSM or any of its plugins. It's not an operating system error s

Re: [OSM-talk] Language used in OSM forum/wiki/mailing list

2018-12-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/12/2018 10:36, Naveen Francis wrote: It would better to have common guidelines forum/wiki/talk. Different language communities have different ways of communication.  Some langauges are quite direct, yet to be direct like that in other languages would be extremely rude   Even within th

Re: [OSM-talk] Language used in OSM forum/wiki/mailing list

2018-12-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/12/2018 13:55, Stephan Knauss wrote: You should be ashamed to criticize ... on that specific note I don't think that people should _ever_ be ashamed to point out something that's "not quite right" or where the perception is wrong.  We can only work together if we communicate with each

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/02/2019 09:37, Christoph Hormann wrote: ... There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one that is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are able to develop and run bots woul

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2019 12:34, Bryce Jasmer wrote: Correct. No change will be made on anything other than the most straightforward of redirects. So even http://example.com -> https://example.com/home.aspx will be ignored. What about certificate checking? Suppose someone primarily uses http:// for acce

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2019 14:29, Bryce Jasmer wrote: In that situation, the admin wouldn’t redirect all of their traffic to their test site with a potentially broken cert. I've seen exactly that happen a number of times... Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/05/15 18:01, Colin Smale wrote: A bit of a meta-discussion I wonder why this topic is not going the same way as the debate on talk-gb last November-December in which it was proposed to tidy up and normalise various spelling variants? There was a lot of vehement opposition to any a

Re: [OSM-talk] Students editing for assignments

2015-07-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/07/2015 19:00, Michał Brzozowski wrote: I ask that we create some guidelines for that type of editing, as we're no sandbox [3]; [3] We should definitely make one, like one that Wikipedia has. Although it wasn't really designed for that, we have got http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 131, Issue 10

2015-07-11 Thread Andy Townsend
‎You may need to explain in a bit more detail what you're trying to do - what buttons you're pressing, what you'd expect to happen, and what actually does happen. it'd probably make more sense to ask a question at help.osm.org (you can use your normal osm.org login there) or on IRC - the main "

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

2015-07-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/07/2015 11:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. One place where rural landuse is mapped is here: http://www.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

2015-07-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/07/2015 11:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. ... and one with both landuse and field boundaries just west of the

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

2015-07-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/07/2015 19:13, Lester Caine wrote: The random use of FARM for large areas is totally inappropriate, and personally I'd remove the bulk of those areas ... or cover the rest of the UK. Using 'farm' for the central farm area makes much more sense and is what is the normal standard south of 'B

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

2015-07-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/07/2015 19:49, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/07/15 19:34, Andy Townsend wrote: It's actually "farmland" rather than farm, and therefore tagged correctly. If it was me I'd use a lightly colour for farmland so that farmyards (also tagged correctly in that area) stand out a

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/08/2015 06:09, Russ Nelson wrote: Okay, this has to stop. ... Here's what seems to have happened. Via P1 undelete you can see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11896835/history Someone's spotted that the TIGER way is iffy (via P1 it's possible to see that it clearly was), and they're

[OSM-talk] Trees (was: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release)

2015-08-15 Thread Andy Townsend
‎There's lots of discussion on Openstreetmap-Carto's github about this, which explains what's possible with the "standard" style right now, but if you're not subject to those restrictions you can certainly render leaf_type now - I've been doing it for my own use for some time (I wrote a diary en

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2015 02:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: According to the github discussion there is an "overwhelming consensus" [2] on moving from current rainbow colour scheme for roads to a red-yellow only scheme. I don't think you'll ever get an "overwhelming consensus" from such a large "co

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2015 16:25, Ben Laenen wrote: Thing is that UK won't ever be happy with another colour scheme and the rest of the world won't ever be happy with a UK scheme. ... and then in the UK we can start arguing about and "English" style vs a "Scottish" one and then a "Yorkshire" one vs "Surrey

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/08/2015 10:02, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: ... the OP hasn't given a list of guilty deletions so it's hard to judge how justified each deletion was. Back in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2015-August/073669.html I had a look at what caused the current flurry of discussion.

[OSM-talk] Railways yet again (was "THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject")

2015-09-08 Thread Andy Townsend
May I respectfully suggest that before anyone sends yet another reply to this thread that they ask "Has this point of view been put forward already?". Everyone is well aware that there is disagreement (and sometimes even disagreement over what to disagree over), but people are rarely won over

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

2015-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2015 11:53, joost schouppe wrote: ... I don't know how we could expect OSM-carto to reflect all our needs. Apart from being a tool for mappers (i.e. showing as much as possible), it also wants to be pretty and useful for non-mappers. Trying to make everyone happy might make everyone un

Re: [OSM-talk] Improved new Icon set for Open Street map

2015-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/11/2015 16:53, Nasir Khan wrote: ... One thing i faced every time and asked from many that, is there a way to improve the icon set to make the map more attractive. (apologies if I'm stating the obvious here, but...) "OpenStreetMap" isn't just "the standard map that you see at openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/11/2015 20:42, Andrew Guertin wrote: An in-between example: on https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38089492/history, highway=stepping_stones was replaced with highway=path. While this helps consumers use the data, it loses information that should have been kept (perhaps with surface=* or

Re: [OSM-talk] Unrepentant Vandal

2015-11-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/11/2015 10:36, Andrew Errington wrote: Hi all, Here is a link to a random point on a light rail system: http://osm.org/go/546Jvddtd--?m= Soon after it opened I travelled on it from end to end, collecting gps data and photos of all the station signs. There are two railway lines, one in ea

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/11/2015 12:15, GerdP wrote: Now what is meant with oneway=yes;no (or no;yes) ? (at the risk of stating the obvious) that's likely to be a merged way, where a new user didn't spot a difference in a key that they weren't looking at before merging two ways. Just look at the changeset that

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/11/2015 10:16, Ben Abelshausen wrote: You can go the tasking manager and see exactly what the goal of the mapping activity was, who is the admin that created the task and who validates, what mappers contributed and so on. Can you please explain where any of that is documented within O

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2015-12-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/12/2015 17:36, Clifford Snow wrote: ... Is there someone on the list that is familiar with China, Japan, Spain, Poland and Thailand that could fix those? For info I did comment (in English) on one of the changesets that added the tag in Japan: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server on Ubuntu 15.10

2016-01-03 Thread Andy Townsend
The "switch2osm manual 14.04 lts" instructions should work ok (on 14.04, obviously). I ran through them on a clean server in December and fixed a couple of problems (missing "sudo"s, changed how to extract one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

2016-01-03 Thread Andy Townsend
... well I wouldn't say "changed"; 14.04 LTS is still the current LTS and is supported through 2019 (though some tile server dependencies may "move on" and make it not a good idea before then, like happened with 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

2016-01-03 Thread Andy Townsend
d problems with the 14 LTS.On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: ... well I wouldn't say "changed"; 14.04 LTS is still the current LTS and is supported t

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm documentation upgrade

2016-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 15:51, Daniel Koć wrote: ... So my second question is: what do you think about upgrading part of the site (with installation instructions) the way I just proposed - or maybe some other way? (as is clear from Richard's message above) I'm not the maintainer of the "switch2osm"

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server manual build 15.10 troubleshooting

2016-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 10:45, Lester Caine wrote: MANY of the tools listed on the switch2osm site are no longer actively supported by their originators, I can't speak for everything on there, but I do know that I tested (and tweaked slightly) the "manual 14.04 instructions" about a month ago because

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 23:14, John Doe wrote: I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on mapnik. Is prefix abandoned before building=yes reall

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 13:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack, "vacant" is not a shop type. That's debateable, I'd say it was. "disused:shop=blah" (or "yes") would work too and is used, though not nearly as many as shop=vacant (9k vs 2k for http://taginfo.openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/01/2016 11:00, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: El 7 ene 2016, a las 07:47, Hans De Kryger > escribió: So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of his edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1) This is obviously wrong. Google Street Vie

Re: [OSM-talk] Dealing with internet_access=wifi

2016-01-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 14:18, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: Hello, according to taginfo "internet_access=wifi" is used almost 80 times globally. Would you agree it is safe to automatically change all of these to "internet_access=wlan"? As I understand it, "wifi" means "one of the 802.11 variants" whereas

Re: [OSM-talk] Wilingness to contribute to OpenStreet

2016-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2016 11:17, K2K wrote: > Hi > I'm a second year student of Informatics Institute of Technology Sri Lanka, and I hereby express my willingness to contribute to any on-going developments of OpenStreet . > My fields of expertise are version controlling, Object Oriented programming&designi

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

2016-01-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/01/2016 19:16, David Marchal wrote: Hello, there. On a GitHub issue (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2027#issuecomment-174443685), I've been told that Wiki tagging votes are only advisory and that the community is only invited, neither required nor recommended

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/2016 20:43, Michał Brzozowski wrote: Can you tell me what's up with this "This entry is available only in Spanish"? I think people won't care if it got delayed a day later or so. Also weird it's Spanish if you have to aggregate multiple mostly English sources anyway. What seems to hav

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/02/2016 00:08, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: The correct links are: English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864 ... well nearly :) English: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/6864 Spanish: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/6864 Defau

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 20:55, Mike Thompson wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 Should I just manually delete, or would it be better for someone to do a revert. In a a case where someone has made a few valid edits and then something that obviously isn't, I'd personally start with

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson wrote: ... appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism. How should this be handled? In this particular case, the changeset comments suggest it's a remote HOT project ("#hotosm-project-1401#Missin

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=coastline vs natural=water fix and refresh tiles

2016-03-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/03/2016 10:55, Jérôme Seigneuret wrote: ... It is possible to refresh the base water layer if it is the unique solution? For info just in case you haven't seen it, this previous thread on the "dev" list explains why coastline updates stopped temporarily: https://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

2016-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
. We also had to intervene on a couple of previous occasions (reverting/redacting data and contact about invalid edits by messages/changeset discussions). Best Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] Please check the work of 00crashtest

2016-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2016 15:39, Chethan H A wrote: Just to add a few more observations about the user 00crashtest editing behavior. Thanks. If you (or anyone else) thinks that there a might be problem with the edits that they're making right now*, can

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug in iD?

2016-03-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/03/2016 22:44, Adrian wrote: A user of the iD editor has added a new way along an existing way, with the two ways sharing the same nodes. In so doing, he has replaced all the nodes of the existing way with new nodes. The old nodes have been deleted. The new nodes are in exactly the same

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
ngly suggest that you take a little time out to actually do some real survey-based mapping, and in addition spend a bit of time understanding the human causes of the sorts of problems that you're aiming to detect, and helping those people understand the resulting problems in the data. Don&#x

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn't matter. All of the screed that I wrote yesterday applies to "redundant data" too - we need to understand how it got there, a

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/03/2016 12:22, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: On 16-03-23 12:20:35, Andy Townsend, wrote 0.3K characters saying: On 23/03/2016 12:07, Frank Villaro-Dixon wrote: Again, that's not the goal if it. As said above, the role is NOT to change tags, but to remove redundancies. It doesn

Re: [OSM-talk] Slipways connected to highways

2016-05-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/05/2016 17:30, Clifford Snow wrote: I've always added slipways to the last node of a service road. Now JOSM is complaining of leisure=slipway connected to a highway. It seem logical to me that the if you wanted to get routing to a boat launch that the node would be on the highway. How do

Re: [OSM-talk] Windows, end users and OpenStreetMap suggestions please

2019-03-05 Thread Andy Townsend
If you're looking for something offline, then one of the Garmin options might work.  Whilst they're primarily designed to complement Garmin devices (handholds, satnavs, etc.) you could just use them standalone, load OSM data in and just search for stuff.There are plenty of Garmin /GPS forums on th

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 3/23/19 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 23, 2019, 9:59 AM by si...@poole.ch: ...  Producing false updates (aka no real content) just obscures that fact and makes it more difficult to determine which areas need to be revisted. It seems to me as not a real problem. There

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2019 23:37, john whelan wrote: > Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes. ... With something like iD spoon feeding new mappers with suggested presets the impact is much greater if something isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/05/2019 12:08, Jo wrote: And the disease is spreading: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Jnd I'm scared. This needs to be mitigated, but indeed, how? Suggestions about tag improvements by an editor are not a new thing - JOSM has had them for ages.  Occasionally there are examples of people a

Re: [OSM-talk] How to Translate Strings in OSM to other languages

2019-05-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/05/2019 15:14, Shrinivasan T wrote: We need a similar map in Tamil Language. You probably don't need to translate anything.  What you see on one OSM-based map is only a tiny subset of the data in OSM.  Here, for example, is the information stored against one place in that area: https

Re: [OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/06/2019 11:46, Mike N wrote: On 6/20/2019 5:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Clearly one of the global mailing lists is missing here;   Forum.openstreetmap.org "talk" probably gets more pairs of eyes on it than the Q&A subforum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=10 (which is p

Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

2019-06-29 Thread Andy Townsend
Usually I'm the one wringing my hands and plaintively saying "won't someone think of the data consumers?". In this case though anyone who's not looking for "natural=water; water=blah" (as well as any other options) really is doing it wrong - people have been using that scheme for years. Best R

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/07/2019 16:40, Martin Trautmann wrote: I recently uploaded some notes from osmand+ to openstreetmap, but did not see them first. I now learned how to activate the notes layer both for openstreetmap and its editor. But I would prefer that notes would be added to my personal profile in orde

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/07/2019 20:56, John Whelan wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49091093 I note "Martijn van Exel" is quoted. I'm sure if the BBC wanted to do some actual journalism they could ask some OSM contributors in Thailand what their view was (see e.g. https://forum.openstreetmap.org/vi

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/07/2019 22:15, john whelan wrote: Could someone clarify with the BBC to describe the process and emphasize the community aspect of OSM. Yes - you can do that yourself at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/ , or maybe try the link from https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/artic

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/07/2019 11:54, Mike N wrote: On 7/26/2019 4:34 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap I'm not a corporate wonk, but I'll note that in my region, "Amazon Logistics" is effectively solving the Last Mile Mapping problem: how to include driveways into rou

Re: [OSM-talk] bus stops signs in the usa.

2019-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 21:03, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if the number is on the sign, and there is no tag for route # is that not the name which will show on the map ? Different maps show different information on bus stops.  As an example, here's how OSM's Transport Map displays two bus stops in N

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-09-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/09/2019 01:19, Nuno Caldeira wrote: oh good. strange that we still get email complains about Instagram users of their address being on OSM, when it's not.  so we have Facebook number, mind asking the number so we can call to ask to comply with the attribution? We (the DWG) certainly get

[OSM-talk] Reports of FB problems to FB rather than to OSM (was: Attribution guideline status update)

2019-09-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/09/2019 17:40, Kathleen Lu via talk wrote: Not that I've heard (I don't think that was ever the case), but 1000s of notes about FB on OSM sounds terrible to me - they would only add noise for mappers who check notes for things to fix, and some editors show notes in the interface. My under

Re: [OSM-talk] MS GitHub? | Re: Tagging Governance

2019-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/09/2019 13:32, Valor Naram via talk wrote: Why would Markdown exclude a good number of otherwise capable contributors? Understandable for TeX and maybe Asciidoc (don't know) but for Markdown this cannot be true. If someone's less familiar with something, they're likely to volunteer to c

Re: [OSM-talk] Should a deleted user's chainset list be removed?

2019-10-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/10/2019 10:44, Dave F via talk wrote: Hi I was in a conversation with a user who's account has since been deleted. ... When they were, I noticed a few dubious edits that I was planning to double check in case they required reverting/amending. Is there a way to see them? Via the websit

Re: [OSM-talk] Metropolitan France : what todo with all "supossed to be wrong" name:xx ?

2019-11-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/11/2019 16:03, marc marc wrote: ... but the question arises as to what to do with the other names:xx : If you've got the time and the inclination, you could go through the history of the relation and comment in a changeset of everyone who's added a translation that might be wrong explai

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277 W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze: EN Is this change acceptable and can I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265 Not yet.  Wait what people say in reply. I personally am not a fan of using

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 14:40, Tomek wrote: EN The problem is that the English imperialists want to impose their language on other nations; and do not understand (do not want to understand) how someone writes in a language other than English, is it so difficult to use Google / Yandex / Bing? Taking a

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #497 2020-01-21-2020-01-27

2020-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
> For those who download OSM data regularly, there is now a simple way to reduce the load on the primary OSM servers, while also making download much faster and ensure the data is correct.Apologies if this has been done to death already, but surely if you are downloading the entire planet regularl

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #497 2020-01-21-2020-01-27

2020-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/02/2020 16:39, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: * Anyone working on an evolving project like OpenMapTiles would attest that the import schema constantly changes. Indeed, but ... Every time schema changes, one needs to download newest planet, import it based on the new schema, and run diffs from

Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated"

2020-02-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/02/2020 15:45, Mario Frasca wrote: ... but apparently when an activity is closed, it's too late to ask them to review. I don't think that that's a reasonable approach for any OSM mapper to take (whether they're working for a company or not).  I also don't think that's a typical reactio

Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated"

2020-02-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/02/2020 17:15, Dave F via talk wrote: On 05/02/2020 15:45, Mario Frasca wrote: hi all,  I am in no position to take care of the amount of instances of this practice, and fix them You shouldn't be expected to. Contributors who make errors should fix them. Agreed.  I've forwarded the

Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated" - fake building for several shops inside one building

2020-02-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/02/2020 20:06, marc marc wrote: nice to highlight the issue. but why not fixing it ? part of the reason for that was described a decade ago by Andy Allan: https://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/ That was talking about imports, but "poor commercial mapping in the hop

Re: [OSM-talk] MapRoulette - cryptic tasks

2020-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2020 11:57, Frederik Ramm wrote: a user started adding "trace_zoom" and "trace_zoom:range" tags to objects in OSM, and closer inspection led to this MapRoulette task: https://maproulette.org/challenge/12836/task/42414493 In this particular example the person creating the task instruct

Re: [OSM-talk] MapRoulette - cryptic tasks

2020-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2020 15:00, Martijn van Exel wrote: You can see the newest created challenges using https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges?sort=created, there is also an API call you can use. Drop me a line if you want some more guidance. Thanks.  What does that API do? Best Regards, Andy __

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/03/2020 13:09, john whelan wrote: I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tagged on them and I'm not sure what the logic is. There are 39k "fixme=name" worldwide.  I suspect usage varies greatly worldwide; it would be useful to know which ones you're looking at. The nea

Re: [OSM-talk] healthsites.io breaks OSM data, do not use

2020-03-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2020 16:44, Mikel Maron wrote: Yikes. Good catch and agreed. Can anyone track the extent of the damage, and prepare to restore the thrown away tags, while keeping the good new data? 28 so far may need looking at: https://osmcha.org/?filters=%7B%22editor%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22H

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

2020-03-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/03/2020 19:00, Mikel Maron wrote:   But this thread is from Facebook trying to change that. To side step imports. No they're not. It's a couple sections in a blog post that is being wildly misinterpreted. It's perhaps worth remembering how we got here: https://news.ycombinator.com/ite

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile server access

2020-04-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/04/2020 13:53, Tom Browder wrote: I am trying to build my own tile server because I have given up on Google Maps and need a replacement. I am getting help on the Github account of @Overv and repo 'openstreetmap-tile-server'. I would like to offer access to my server to others when I get

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