Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness

2009-02-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: > Ulf Lamping wrote: >> I guess you want to missunderstand this tag. > > The tag name should be descriptive. If there's widespread misunderstanding, > then the tag was misnamed. (And besides, the "wheeled" point still doesn't > a

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dave Stubbs schrieb: > >> 2. ... it is easier for new mappers to have one documented tag for one >> feature, instead of having to choose... > > > Fine, no problem. I said document both, not recommend both. document both IS recommend both! ULFL - who thinks that having already hundreds (litera

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=doctor or amenity=doctors ? [tagging]

2009-02-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dave Stubbs schrieb: > 2009/2/24 Ulf Lamping : >> Dave Stubbs schrieb: >>>> 2. ... it is easier for new mappers to have one documented tag for one >>>> feature, instead of having to choose... >>> >>> Fine, no problem. I said document both, not

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding image to map features

2011-01-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 29.01.2011 11:05, schrieb Mahsa Ghasemi: Hi, Does anyone know if we are able to associate an image with a map feature (as an example having an image for a hotel)in OSM? If you want to say: "you can find a real life photo of this node/way/... object at the following URL": image=URL See:

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding image to map features

2011-01-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 29.01.2011 13:48, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2011/1/29 Ulf Lamping: image=URL I wonder if this is something we would like to have in our db. Imagine if we become really widely used, the amount of these tags would probably explode. And what's the actual problem with that? BTW: H

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding image to map features

2011-01-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 29.01.2011 14:34, schrieb Tobias Knerr: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2011/1/29 Ulf Lamping: image=URL I see this as a case for an external database. So do I. Choosing the "right" image for an object is very much a matter of personal taste. Furthermore, a lot of controversial policy

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding image to map features

2011-01-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 29.01.2011 16:26, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Here I'm with you. If those Images were stored centrally and hosted by OSM or the wikimedia foundation I see a much better chance of not having a big image-link-cemetery in the database. That "cemetery problem" is just caused by the current almo

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 10.02.2011 15:12, schrieb Grant Slater: Message from Mikel 2 days ago explaining: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2011-February/001052.html I believe the user-revert script used is fairly simple and does not have direct access to the OSM database. The script does attempt to

Re: [OSM-talk] Why isn't any XAPI server available ?

2011-02-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 18.02.2011 22:47, schrieb David Murn: On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 16:59 +, Grant Slater wrote: The new java based XAPI is running and responding to test queries, but be warned it is still under active development. See: Am I missing something here...? Yes, you are missing a few things ;-)

Re: [OSM-talk] Why isn't any XAPI server available ?

2011-02-18 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 19.02.2011 00:02, schrieb David Murn: This is modern-day thinking. Modern solutions are to simply throw more money and hardware at a problem, where older techniques called for using the same hardware but making the code faster. That then means if you improve the hardware you get a double-inc

Re: [OSM-talk] Zero tolerance on imports

2011-02-20 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 20.02.2011 12:24, schrieb Frank Steggink: Not everyone in the community is following OSM-talk, let alone commenting on discussions. There is surely a vocal minority against imports, like there is also a vocal minority against the upcoming license change. Yet, support for ODbL and the CT by pre

Re: [OSM-talk] Named passages on hiking paths

2011-03-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 14.03.2011 20:06, schrieb Tom Hughes: On 14/03/11 18:45, Nakor wrote: Isn't a "Pas" just a mountain pass: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mountain_pass (like e.g. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pas_de_Peyrol )? "Col" is the usual word for a mountain pass. Yes, the french are a lot m

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 20.06.2011 09:09, schrieb NopMap: I don't know how you feel, but for me it is very hard to remain supportive of the matter in the face of such consequent incompetence handling it. I've read the whole thread now and have some lessons learned: 1. You don't have to wear a suit to be incompeten

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM composer not open source?

2010-05-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 01.05.2010 09:42, schrieb David Murn: > My whole reason for dedicating efforts to OSM, rather than other > projects such as google mapmaker, is due to the forced openness which > every user/member has to comply with. If I wanted to be part of a > pseudo-free map project, Id go back to google, b

Re: [OSM-talk] Philosophy about Autorouting for Cyclists and new key class:bicycle

2010-05-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 03.05.2010 21:12, schrieb Felix Hartmann: > My actual position on this is, I will write a wiki page, with a note to > say bug off people against unofficial routes (because for mountainbiking > they will in a matter of days be largely more than signposted routes), > we will tag them route:unoffic

Re: [OSM-talk] Philosophy about Autorouting for Cyclists and new key class:bicycle

2010-05-04 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 04.05.2010 03:15, schrieb Felix Hartmann: > Arguing about how long someone is inside OSM, is an argument I cannot > follow. Of course I have only been a member of OSM since 3 years, of > wich the last 2 years I was more active than the first one. However > putting prior achievement as a require

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 30.05.2010 19:09, schrieb Mikel Maron: > > > Right now, the only mention of the "on the ground" rule on the wiki is >> here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule > > Should a separate page be created about how it applies more generally? > > The intention of us devisi

Re: [OSM-talk] Bug reporting problems (was: Big sponsors)

2010-06-17 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 18.06.2010 03:55, schrieb Ian Dees: > I mean we could point people to openstreetbugs, but it's already full up > because people are more interested in mapping the areas they are > interested in, not necessarily fixing bugs in other areas. ... or not necessarily interested in fixing bugs in thei

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 02.07.2010 15:03, schrieb Nic Roets: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796&lon=5.62046&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT Nice work! As a motorcycle rider, I was a bit surprised

Re: [OSM-talk] Defining critical mass...

2010-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 14.07.2010 01:26, schrieb John Smith: There has been a slightly disturbing thread on the legal-talk list about defining critical mass, so far things aren't any closer to being defined and statistics are being abused to suit positions: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-J

Re: [OSM-talk] Defining critical mass...

2010-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 14.07.2010 12:03, schrieb Andreas Labres: On 14.07.10 09:59, Ulf Lamping wrote: I had hoped that after the dust settled a bit the OSMF learned from these discussions, but reading the above legal talk thread I still see the same elitist behaviour from the "inner circle" as before

Re: [OSM-talk] Defining critical mass...

2010-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 14.07.2010 11:08, schrieb Andy Allan: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: See what our (IMHO not so) respectful OSMF chairman and project founder Steve C had to say about license (working group) critics in December 2009: http://fakestevec.blogspot.com/2009/12/fable.html

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing "free and open license"

2010-07-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 20.07.2010 03:10, schrieb Elizabeth Dodd: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, you wrote: Tell me Liz, have you contributed anything positive to this entire process, ever, in any way? I have, whether or not you see it as positive. I have pointed out that there are problems, and asked people to reconsider

[OSM-talk] mountain_pass=yes: combination with place=locality and rendering

2010-07-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! Our current "default maps" will display mountain_pass=yes only at very high zoomlevels (z17), although these are often "important geographic features". Especially road maps will usually display passes even more prominently than surrounding peaks. Nowadays people seem to "fine tune" their

Re: [OSM-talk] mountain_pass=yes: combination with place=locality and rendering

2010-07-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 28.07.2010 17:24, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: For bikers - at least in Italy Alps and Appennini mountains - a mountain pass along a road is often used as a meeting point or as a trip destination. So the use of place=locality is not so mislea

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 30.07.2010 13:18, schrieb Frederik Ramm: To them, I say: Yes, you're right, it can be a pain sometimes, but if you practice it for a while, it will be an easy routine. I'm doing this day by day while doing software development - but there it has a much higher value: Very often you can't get

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 31.07.2010 11:19, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: If that can be solved introducing meaningful new name spaces like emergency, which could give easy way to filter emergency items, why not? What is cost of this? 1) Changing it in wiki - one day tops 2) Changing it in db - mass convertation, doable

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 31.07.2010 11:24, schrieb David Earl: On 31/07/2010 10:05, Ulf Lamping wrote: There are people who actively watch out "their area" what changes there. That's fine and valueable. But IMHO it's *their job* to make sense of the changes, not the mappers job. What a se

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 31.07.2010 12:17, schrieb David Earl: On 31/07/2010 10:50, John Smith wrote: Frankly I'd rather spend my time mapping than telling everyone to the nth degree what my life story about why I made a change. sad, sad, sad to be so selfish towards your colleagues. Calling someone selfish when

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 31.07.2010 14:00, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: 2010/7/31 Ulf Lamping: 4) Change it in every map renderer / router / other software that is out there - hundreds (or already even thousands?) of applications Really hunderds and thousands? I think it is more in tens ballpark, 20 at the best

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 01.08.2010 16:40, schrieb Ross Scanlon: On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:08:10 +0200 Ulf Lamping wrote: Am 31.07.2010 14:00, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: 2010/7/31 Ulf Lamping: Please remember, that it's not done to change only the software (e.g. mkgmap), but each rule file or alike in use

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 31.07.2010 14:05, schrieb Frederik Ramm: I, too, find your attitude funny. You spend an hour doing edits, then cannot be bothered to spend a minute to think of a good changeset comment. That's one thing I want to do and the other I often find a burden to enter. What's so funny about that?

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 11.08.2010 20:26, schrieb SteveC: Despite the discussion resulting from my post yesterday, there continue to be individuals on the talk@ mailing list disrupting the community. Well, who is really disrupting the community?!? People like John Smith with a "usually high volume output", or the

Re: [OSM-talk] Contributor Terms

2010-08-12 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 12.08.2010 22:17, schrieb Pierre-Alain Dorange: 80n<80n...@gmail.com> wrote: [...] That said, the strategy adopted by OSFM is one that is calculated to load the bases in favour of enabling them to switch to ODbL eventually. They do not intend to ask the whole community to vote on whether t

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 13.08.2010 23:09, schrieb Frederik Ramm: The problem is: The system is there to balance your right to say something and the receiver's right to not be bothered by what you have to say. Someone who is interested in legal topics is invited to join legal-talk. Someone who isn't should not have t

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 19.08.2010 21:39, schrieb Frank Fesevur: 2010/8/19 Pierre-Alain Dorange: For convent, monestary and generally religious place but not open to the public there is no "official" tag. I just found a proposition (2) to tag building=convent, building=monastery, buiding=seminary and even a building

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 14.10.2010 14:07, schrieb Milo van der Linden: Dear 41latitude, I came accross your blog on "critique of OpenStreetMap". http://www.41latitude.com/post/1310985699/openstreetmap-critique and read it with interest. Some points are true, others need better explaination and I think you misinterpr

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 10:05, schrieb Richard Weait: Anybody object to adopting a Code of Conduct for behaviour with OpenStreetMap mailing lists, fora, blogs, and other communication channels? Yes, unless absolutely necessary (which I currently can't see), we should *absolutely* avoid such guidelines.

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 10:54, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: In the long run they tend to do more harm than good. Hi, can you give an example of this? The german Wikipedia has so much "please do this", "please read that" , "ple

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 14:15, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: The german Wikipedia has so much "please do this", "please read that" , "please follow ...", ... that it turns out to be no more fun working there. I've almo

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 14:36, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: Here's the contents of that page, so we can discuss it on the list: = Draft OpenStreetMap Code of Conduct = Why did you leave out the "Violations and Enforcement" section of that page altogether? Please not again some voodoo-magic circle that

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct Draft

2010-10-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 16.10.2010 16:04, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: Please not again some voodoo-magic circle that decides what is best for us Do you have some suggestion? Yes, don't do such things ;-) Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] tile downloader

2010-10-20 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 21.10.2010 01:51, schrieb David Murn: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:35 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Anyone interested in the openstreetmap tile downloader 5.0 ? It is now available for only 29,95 $ http://www.bestsoftware4download.com/software/k-mapnik-t-free-easy-openstreetmap-downloader-dow

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 06.12.2010 17:58, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: The LWG is part of the OSMF, and the OSMF is who runs this project. The LWG is part of the OSMF, and the OSMF is part of the ~3 people who runs this project :-) Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 08.12.2010 22:59, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:33 AM, davespod wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners_Guide_1.1 See item 3.* Very interesting. That line was added by "Ben" in January 2009, and that sentence hasn't been touched since. So the question arises

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 08.12.2010 23:46, schrieb davespod: By the way, I don't think the intention is to suggest that it is not ok to trace an area and then visit it to correct errors and add detail. It is when you are not going to do that, it is frowned upon. I can understand why. I have cancelled a trip to survey

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 09.12.2010 02:49, schrieb Kenneth Gonsalves: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 08:59 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: (Personally, I would be arguing against it. "Don't do X because the result would be less accurate than if you did Y" is an unhelpful kind of perfectionism. The line makes the point that accura

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 09.12.2010 12:42, schrieb Richard Fairhurst: Ulf Lamping wrote: Am 09.12.2010 02:49, schrieb Kenneth Gonsalves: what I object to is mapping a place one has no intention of visiting Fine, seems you don't like the wiki principle ... I think you're getting confused with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor

2011-01-23 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 24.01.2011 02:19, schrieb Anthony: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Vincent Pottier wrote: Le 24/01/2011 00:25, Anthony a écrit : I'm not quite sure why, but I really don't like JOSM. Of the four main editors (others being PL1, PL2, and Merkaartor), it's my least favorite. I realy don't

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Hi, > > Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> There's three categories to consider relating to existing data. > >> 1. People who have made edits and can't be contacted. >> 2. People who don't like ODbL and withdraw their data. >> 3. Large organisations. > > I have a fourth cate

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Hi, > > OJ W wrote: >> Currently OSM surveyors do their thing in the understanding that >> cartographers will turn the result into something nice that they can >> use (and the surveyors know that they will benefit from this due to >> the map images being sharealike) > > T

[OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? -> How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! I'm not sure you're aware, but you're currently on the best way to make the "license to kill" phrase come true! First of all: If you're not aware, it's all about trust. When I first uploaded data to OSM, I made sure about the license - so my effort wasn't only commercially consumed. This

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tobias Knerr schrieb: > Frederik Ramm wrote: >> I have never mapped anything thinking >> "hey, maybe someone else is going to make a nice map from this that I >> can then use". Not one single time. I don't know if that makes me an >> exception. Most people I talked to were enthusiastic about the

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Russ Nelson schrieb: > On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Matthew Toups wrote: >> If we can't change the data, what's the point of having it in OSM? > > Having consistent metadata and a consistent single-source API. > On what bases would someone with no formal training, no legal deed descript

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
80n schrieb: > > The problem with GPS toting mappers is that they will often believe > their GPS tracks are at least as accurate as those used for all the > other data in OSM, so there's a strong temptation to move things around > a bit based on the information they have to hand - I know, I've

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? -> How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
SteveC schrieb: >> (This is meant as a funny way to say that, when other important >> business >> has been resolved, we should perhaps one day clean up the AoA; it is >> not >> meant to suggest that there was something wrong with those serving on >> the OSMF board.) > > Well I don't really get

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki page for big data contributors needs updating

2009-03-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Mike Collinson schrieb: > Simone, > > The ODbL is still a "BY-SA" license but written with databases rather than > creative works in mind ("ODC-BY-SA"). So my opinion is that Frederik's advice > is the right one, it depends on how narrow or wide-ranging the original > authority was. > > At the

[OSM-talk] What is amenity=food_outlets in map features?

2009-03-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! Someone added amenity=food_outlets to the map features and even after reading the comment "An area with several food outlets" I'm quite unsure what this could be. Is this a collection of several amenity=fast_food or a kind of vending_machine or ...? Can someone explain this a bit? Regard

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Propoasl - RFC - Gym

2009-03-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Adrian Moisey schrieb: > Hi > > Someone else started a proposal for a gym, I need it in my area. So I'm > finishing it off: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gym Why not simply use: leisure=sports_centre sport=work_out (or gymnastics or ...) Regards, ULFL _

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Propoasl - RFC - Gym

2009-03-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Guenther Meyer schrieb: > Am Montag 30 März 2009 schrieb Adrian Moisey: >> Hi >> > Someone else started a proposal for a gym, I need it in my area. So > I'm finishing it off: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gym Why not simply use: leisure=sports_cen

Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=tool_booth also for automated toll cameras?

2009-05-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Greg Troxel schrieb: > David Lynch writes: > >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:45, Maarten Deen wrote: > >>> Is it ok to use barrier=toll_booth for portals over the road with >>> cameras for automated toll collection, like the ones used for LKW >>> Maut (HGV toll) in Germany? To me, toll_booth indi

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - 'living_street'

2009-06-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
USHAKOV, Sergey schrieb: > Paul, thank you for being the first to respond to my post with the new > subject :) > > OSM wiki is a great resource and really does clarify a lot. Meanwhile it is > "work in progress" like all wikis and still leaves some space for possible > confusion here and there...

Re: [OSM-talk] Map legends: Another option

2009-06-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Stefan Baebler schrieb: > It's nice seeing changing road width with zoom also in the legend! > > It would be also interesting to hide features that are not appearing > in the map currently being shown. > Sure it would require a bbox query, but it would be much more user > friendly (eg when matchi

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Hughes schrieb: > On 14/07/09 08:30, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: > >> Now we have the changesets like >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1815935 >> >> It's relative easy to identify bad edits. >> >> Is it possible to add an "undo request button" or "spam button" to this >> pa

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Ulf Lamping
Shaun McDonald schrieb: > > On 14 Jul 2009, at 09:50, Ulf Lamping wrote: > >> Tom Hughes schrieb: >> >>> because in general terms it won't work - reverting >>> will often need manual intervention to resolve conflicts. >> >> I've h

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Love Hotels ("Brazilian Motels")

2009-07-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Joseph Scanlan schrieb: > On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> Well, I would tag them completely differently. It is a different kind >> of object, it is not a Motel where you just pay according to a >> different fee system / business modell. > > Around here I would not use a separ

Re: [OSM-talk] Search field on www.openstreetmap.org

2009-07-30 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Hughes schrieb: > The whole home page needs a redesign, and I don't really want to start > fiddling with little things like this when we should be doing the job > properly. > > There are also issues with search at the moment which mean we don't > actually want to make it too prominent. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: > 2009/8/2 John Smith : >>> list" but before annoying everyone on that list, I thought >>> that which is the >>> preferred tag should be decided. >> JOSM has numerous tags that aren't "official" >> >> Speaking of which, can anyone think of a better way to put aren't lis

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: > 2009/8/2 Ulf Lamping : >> Well, when I introduced doctors in JOSMs mappaint (and Christoph to the >> Presets), there was a clear majority of doctors and not doctor. >> >> If people use the term doctors, we shouldn't force them t

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
OJ W schrieb: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Marc Coevoet wrote: >> You can try the quadcopter too.. > > how would launching a quadcopter into orbit help? That's a small step for openstreetmap, one giant leap for quadcopters ;-) Regards, ULFL ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Hi, > > Tom Chance wrote: >> 1 – Nobody can actually agree what highway=path means so it is being used >> in different senses all over the world, which reduces its usefulness to >> near zero > > Perhaps it really *is* useless and it was good that our process > demonstrat

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Roy Wallace schrieb: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Emilie Laffray > wrote: >> We should stop reinventing the wheel. >> Let's work on those definitions first to make sure that everyone and every >> languages are on the same wavelength. > > Agreed. I think: > > step 1) Work out how the tags a

Re: [OSM-talk] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Liz schrieb: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Nop wrote: >> You cannot force anything but you can discourage putting presets for >> disputed tags in editors (if it is frowned upon as some sort of indirect >> vandalism and rolled back) and you can make an organised effort to bring >> a newly established taggi

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (geological=palaeontological_site)

2009-08-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
marcellobil...@gmail schrieb: > Deal all, > I'd like to propose a new tag: > > "geological=palaeontological_site". > > I would welcome comments on the Proposed Features page: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/geological=palaeontological_site Hi Marcello! In my years of

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-12 Thread Ulf Lamping
John Smith schrieb: > --- On Wed, 12/8/09, Kate wrote: >> At the last DC mapping party in >> Silver Spring, Maryland, I came across >> a giant acorn that should be marked on OSM, but not sure >> the best way >> to tag it: > > tourism=viewpoint ? To qoute Map Features about viewpoint: "A place,

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Vikas Yadav schrieb: > I made this icon for JOSM. > My not an artist. > This is the top with walls on both sides. Hi Vidas! I'm not an artist as well. Anyway, I've took your icon as an inspiration (your icon looked blurred when scaled down to 16*16 pixels) and added a similar one to the JOSM d

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Patrick Petschge Kilian schrieb: > Hi, > >> Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on >> all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, >> so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. > In short you missed http://www.unicom.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Jonathan Bennett schrieb: > Tobias Knerr wrote: >> How about "offer reliable service with good uptimes"? After the recent >> maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really >> intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just >> experiment with them) and we are o

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
andrzej zaborowski schrieb: > 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell : >> For any external use like SFD it makes sense to stay with a commercial >> solution where they can get paid support and customization if needed. > > My only issue with this is that it places OSM behind Google, because > when you go to

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robert (Jamie) Munro schrieb: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ulf Lamping wrote: >> Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google >> maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your >> j

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Serge Wroclawski schrieb: > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Ulf Lamping > wrote: > >> Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google >> maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your >> javascript code (co

[OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

2009-09-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! The openlayer wiki examples in [1] links to none existing example files at [2]. Have the files moved somewhere else or are they gone due to the recent dev server changes? Regards, ULFL [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenLayers [2] http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~edgemaster/OpenLayers

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wiki "OpenLayer live examples" get "404 not found"

2009-09-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tom Hughes schrieb: > On 08/09/09 00:24, Thomas Wood wrote: >> My apologies, I meant to change the links. >> Try errol.openstreetmap.org/... > > Please don't do that, both because it doesn't work and because we don't > have to get people used to referring to the machine by that name. > > You jum

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Craig Wallace schrieb: > On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote: >> On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> >>> Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so >>> confusing for this simple thing to map. >>> >> I think the original distinction was that a graveyard

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

2009-09-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Craig Wallace schrieb: > On 10/09/2009 01:21, Ulf Lamping wrote: >> Well, it's simply a bad thing to indicate stuff by something that's >> "nearby". What's nearby? 1m/10m/100m/1000m? Is it indicated by a >> place_of_worship, a building=church or xy? &g

[OSM-talk] [voting] amenity=fountain

2007-12-19 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! The corresponding RFC was updated two times - now it seems to make sense to most people. Voting is opened for the next two weeks at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Fountain Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@open

[OSM-talk] After approval of a map feature, please also add the feature to the "Appoved Features" page

2007-12-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! There were some approvals in recent days. Please don't forget to add them to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Approved_features (simply moving the according line from the proposed to approved page will do the trick). I've added place=locality, but there might be others ... Regards,

[OSM-talk] [voting] shop=dry_cleaning - approved

2007-12-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about shop=dry_cleaning ended with 7 approvals and no disapprovals. I've moved it from the proposed to the approved pages and also added it to the map features page. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] shop = laundromat -> shop=laundry

2007-12-31 Thread Ulf Lamping
Ulf Lamping schrieb: > There's an RFC about shop=laundromat, please have a look at: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Laundromat > There were some comments and talk on the list about Laundromat vs. Launderette vs. Laundry. I've changed th

Re: [OSM-talk] more votes requested - man_made=sub_station

2008-01-04 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > On 04/01/2008, Brent Easton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You don't need any more votes. If there are no negative votes, then 6 Yes's >> is enough to approve it. >> > it is? oh, i thought it was 10. 6 seems awfully low > > thanks though, wil move it across to app

Re: [OSM-talk] redundant proposal? - man_made=fenced_compounds

2008-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > On 04/01/2008, Michael Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> is there an acknowledged way of removing them, without going through >>> the whole comments/opinions/voting process? >>> >> Ye, it would certainly be good to be more aggressive in cleaning up >> up

Re: [OSM-talk] more information needed - tourism=rest_camp

2008-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > could the person who proposed: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Rest_Camp > > please provide some more information on the proposal? > > it is unclear what it is actually for, beyond duplicating a range of other > tags > > failing that, could it

[OSM-talk] [voting] amenity=fountain - approved

2008-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about amenity=fountain ended with 13 approvals and no disapprovals. I've moved it from the proposed to the approved pages and also added it to the map features page. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org htt

[OSM-talk] [voting] highway=living_street - approved (in the end)

2008-01-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about highway=living_street ended with 24 approvals and 15 disapprovals. After a lot of discussion about this tag, I've approved it now - in the end the proposal has a majority in it's current form. Reading most of the comments and votes (again), I think that starting anoth

Re: [OSM-talk] "Approved" and "Rejected" proposals in the Wiki

2008-01-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Hi, > >> What about moving proposals not actively worked upon to a new >> inactive_proposals page (or simply to the rejected features page)? >> > By the way, who has come up with these rejected/approved features > pages? Don't know. > I don't like that too much -

[OSM-talk] [voting] mountain_pass=yes - some more votes please

2008-01-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about moutain_pass=yes is still a bit undecided - we need some more votes. Please go and vote at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Pass Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://l

Re: [OSM-talk] new proposal - paintball

2008-01-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > a new tag for proposal > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/paintball > > please could i get some opinions > > thanks > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/c

[OSM-talk] [voting] mountain_pass=yes - approved

2008-01-07 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about mountain_pass=yes ended with 18 approvals and 2 disapprovals. I've moved it from the proposed to the approved pages and also added it to the map features page. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed - kiosk

2008-01-08 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > this proposal has been open for voting for 8 weeks now > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Kiosk > > it has been approved with 14 yes votes > > it has been moved to the map features and approved features page > > Hi! There's a very similar prop

[OSM-talk] [voting] landuse=railway - approved

2008-01-08 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about landuse=railway ended with 16 approvals and no disapprovals. I've moved it from the proposed to the approved pages and also added it to the map features page. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

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