Re: [Talk-us] Cycleway Crossings

2020-08-07 Thread Harald Kliems
Yeah, I think the defaults in iD are most likely what's causing this tagging. I've seen a lot of it in my area as well. Harald (hobbesvsboyle) On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 1:36 PM James Umbanhowar wrote: > I think that iD doesn't have a preset for cycleway=crossing so that > editors may think that

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballots pending AASHTO approval

2020-04-16 Thread Harald Kliems
Another quick update: Work on the relatively short USBR 230 segment is complete as well. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10967108 Harald (hobbesvsboyle) On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:37 PM stevea wrote: > I just finished entering the last 15% - 20% of USBR 50 in California as a > "first

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballots pending AASHTO approval

2020-04-15 Thread Harald Kliems
I'm happy to report that the proposed WI segment of USBR 30 is complete now. My route relation skills are a little rusty, and so it's possible that some of the forward/backward sections may have QC issues, but based on what I saw in JOSM's route editor, things look pretty good. If anybody has the

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballots pending AASHTO approval

2020-04-09 Thread Harald Kliems
As Bradley pointed out, Google Street View and Microsoft Streetside both show a "no trespassing" sign. However, Street View imagery is from 2012; Streetside from 2014. So maybe access restrictions have changed since then. I'll check the Slack channel to see if anyone has local knowledge about

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballots pending AASHTO approval

2020-04-06 Thread Harald Kliems
Thanks for the update, Steve. I'm user hobbesvsboyle -- anybody who wants to work on this, feel free to reach out by email or OSM message. Thanks to the large on-trail sections of the route, getting this into OSM shouldn't be too difficult. Harald. On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 6:16 PM stevea wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Thread Harald Kliems
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:17 AM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > What cities allow cycling on sidewalks anyway, seriously ? This sounds so > inadequate. That it is tolerated is one thing, but outright legal or > encouraged ? Makes no sense to me. > In the US

Re: [Talk-us] When is your doctor a clinic?

2020-01-23 Thread Harald Kliems
German native speaker who has lived in the US for a good while and works in health research. Jmapb's definition sounds pretty good to me. I think the "accept walk-ins" may not be a great distinguisher. I can think of several clinics here that don't accept walk-ins, and my small dentist practice

Re: [Talk-us] Railway improvements; stations vs. halts

2020-01-08 Thread Harald Kliems
FWIW, the German wiki page for railway=halt has a section that acknowledges that the German definition and international usage differ: "Outside the German-speaking world, railway=halt is defined as an unimportation railway station that only has the most basic equipment and isn't staffed (in

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

2019-03-21 Thread Harald Kliems
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:31 AM Martijn van Exel wrote: > The benefit is that it gives mappers a reason to examine places - not just > the disappeared feature itself but also the area around it - that would > otherwise go unexamined. Since we have so much unexamined space in the > U.S., any

[Talk-ca] Bike infrastructure in OSM

2019-02-08 Thread Harald Kliems
I just learned that US-based bike advocacy organization People for Bikes is going to expand their "Bicycle Network Analysis" (BNA) to the following Canadian cities: Toronto, Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Ottawa, Halifax, Saskatoon, Edmonton, Montreal, Hamilton, Mississauga, Brampton. What is the

Re: [Talk-ca] New MapRoulette challenge to address highway class flip-flops

2019-02-04 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Martijn: I just tried the challenge, and all of the first four tasks that came up produce an "area too big" error in JOSM (long highways in very rural areas). Is there any way to fix this? Or maybe warn people to not use JOSM for this challenge? Harald. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:37 AM Martijn

Re: [Talk-ca] Business Improvement Area tagging

2019-01-09 Thread Harald Kliems
To me this is a clear case of something that doesn't belong in OSM. It sounds like the boundaries aren't verifiable on the ground and may change frequently. Therefore any data in OSM would go stale quickly and the only verification of accuracy would be to go back to the source. Yes, we have

Re: [Talk-us] Review named junction nodes

2018-11-06 Thread Harald Kliems
Yeah, this seems to be a PA Turnpike thing. The first Maproulette task I got was this https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xaK6JK7CzFYTEfkAp_kwtQ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/345383389 Harald. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:39 PM Martijn van Exel wrote: > I found a case[0] where the name is

Re: [Talk-us] OSM map use w/o attribution at US News & World Report

2018-09-28 Thread Harald Kliems
Yeah, same for me: https://i.imgur.com/t7VuFDB.png Maybe they fixed it *very* rapidly? Harald. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:37 AM Levente Juhász wrote: > Maybe I am missing something here but when I checked the link you provided > I can see the proper attribution displayed in the Leaflet map.

Re: [Talk-us] Gravel roads and surface tags in the US

2018-04-19 Thread Harald Kliems
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:10 PM Rihards wrote: > While possibly correct for western Europe, more eastwards that is not > correct. A lot of compacted roads. By distance, probably more than paved. > Pure gravel usually is reserved for smaller segments where very low > travel

Re: [Talk-us] Gravel roads and surface tags in the US

2018-04-18 Thread Harald Kliems
I think compacted is definitely the best way to tag, but I agree with Toby's point that common terms conflicting with OSM terminology is going to lead to lots of errors. Looking at my own edits, I have mistakenly used surface=gravel quite frequently. Not really sure what to do -- a "did you really

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

2018-02-16 Thread Harald Kliems
See also: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/19609/saint-or-st-is-there-an-official-osm-policy On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:50 PM James wrote: > http://saultstemarie.ca/ > > thats how its written. even on signs to there > > On Feb 16, 2018 3:47 PM, "OSM Volunteer stevea"

Re: [Talk-ca] Meaning of lcn tag - designated route, or any cycling infrastructure

2018-02-04 Thread Harald Kliems
I agree with your interpretation of the meaning of the lcn tag. I suspect this may be a case of mapping for the renderer, where people want bike lanes or other infrastructure to visibly show up on OpenCycleMap or elsewhere. Harald. On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:41 PM Mike Boos

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:56 PM john whelan wrote: > Perhaps what we need is a way to tag cycle friendly streets. Typically > I'll use a mixture of minor side streets and paths when using the trike. > > So I'd prefer a routing that used these as much as possible rather

Re: [Talk-us] Potential vandalism or very misguided edits near Madison

2017-11-09 Thread Harald Kliems
I am local, and yes, there is no good reason/explanation for those deletions. Looks like a clear case for a revert. I'm not confident enough in my revert abilities, though. Harald, Madison (WI) On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM Simon Poole wrote: > See at least the last 5 or so

Re: [Talk-ca] Planning mapathon @ McGill in OSM Geo Week

2017-10-25 Thread Harald Kliems
There is a Montreal-specific listserv: Harald (who no longer lives in Montreal) On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:38 AM James wrote: > I think Pierre is a good contact for the local Montreal group. > > On Oct 24, 2017 11:02 PM, "Tim Elrick, Dr."

Re: [Talk-us] Bicycle infrastructure

2017-10-04 Thread Harald Kliems
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:23 PM Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Shoulder information is good, especially on rural roads. A simple > shoulder=yes/no suffices. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shoulder Yes to adding shoulder info! You may be talking specifically about

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Thread Harald Kliems
Dear Zoe: Thanks for doing the study -- I saw it posted earlier in OSM Weekly. I look forward to seeing the results, whatever they may be. And I'm quite ashamed (but not surprised) by the open hostility your study is facing on this list and elsewhere. Best, Harald (hobbesvsboyle) On Tue, Sep

Re: [Talk-ca] Ferry key on ways

2017-07-17 Thread Harald Kliems
My question would be how the different levels of ferry are defined. What makes a ferry a "trunk ferry" versus a "primary ferry"? Its speed? Capacity? Not allowing pedestrians and bikes? My suspicion is that the classification in the end comes down to which types of roads the ferry connects, which

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing

2017-04-26 Thread Harald Kliems
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:37 AM Marc Gemis wrote: > Oh , I thought position 2 was where the physical barrier ended. Must > have misinterpreted the image > I had a quick look at the street level imagery ( https://goo.gl/maps/YYRH4eWpnjz or

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing

2017-04-26 Thread Harald Kliems
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:09 AM Marc Gemis wrote: > I thought the "standard" was to put the exit and entrance nodes at the > place where there is no physical barrier. Continuous white lines > should be mapped with change:lanes and should have no impact on the > position of

Re: [Talk-us] People For Bikes Connectivity Tool

2017-04-06 Thread Harald Kliems
Clifford: I've been in touch with Spencer about updating data in Madison, WI. I'm a longtime OSMer and vice president of a local bike advocacy group, Madison Bikes. In both those capacities I'm really excited about this project. We have a supportive Metropolitan Planning Organization with good

Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-10 Thread Harald Kliems
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:28 PM Joshua Houston wrote: > It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be > phased out from OpenStreetMap language. The philosophy of OpenStreetMap is > very inclusive and that should be represented even in the way data

Re: [Talk-us] RRFB Tag

2017-02-22 Thread Harald Kliems
The wiki page seems to suggest that it should be flashing_lights=button instead of having the separate button_operated tag. But I'm not sure if that tagging actually makes more sense than the one you suggested. Harald. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:40 PM Spencer Gardner

Re: [Talk-us] Combined parking/bike lanes

2017-02-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Bradley, in colder climates the difference is more than aesthetic. A lot of these bike become unusable for people riding bikes in the winter because they don't get fully plowed to the curb and then parked cars take up the whole remainder of the lane. Admittedly, this often also happens where there

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

2016-08-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Manohar: It is my understanding that including destinations in the name is an artifact of people tagging for the renderer (and/or tagging destinations at a time before there was an established tagging scheme). If you search through the talk-ca archives, you should be able to find some

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

2016-06-04 Thread Harald Kliems
All these discussions are the reason why I almost never touch the highway=* tag and rather add surface=* or other descriptive tags to TIGER roads. There just isn't any consensus and many good reasons for many positions about residential, unclassified, track, etc. Harald. On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

2016-06-03 Thread Harald Kliems
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:52 AM Steve Friedl wrote: > Ø Unless something changed, I think both Potlatch and JOSM will remove > the ‘junk’ tags from TIGER if you delete the reviewed=no > > > > I’ve deleted thousands of tiger:reviewed tags (after proper review) and > have never

Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

2016-04-13 Thread Harald Kliems
Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify: http://www.mobify.com/contact/ Harald. On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger

Re: [Talk-us] Gosh ... something about mapping ...

2015-12-01 Thread Harald Kliems
Very useful, Simon. Thanks! Slightly OT: Can anybody explain what R5-5, "No vehicles with lugs" means? I'm assuming it doesn't refer to vehicles like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MyBrrEGexIg/TEIogw5nrdI/AFk/Jl7SF5tfQV0/s1600/L9990154.JPG Harald. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:20 AM Simon

Re: [Talk-us] Growing OSM (was OpenStreetMap US elections: October 12 townhall with candidates)

2015-10-14 Thread Harald Kliems
One example I encountered yesterday: A bike friend posted a link to http://gravelmap.com/ on Facebook. It's a website where people collect the unpaved roads that have become increasingly popular in the US cycling community. The GravelMap slippy map is Google Maps, and I'm assuming their data is

Re: [Talk-us] Cycle_greenway

2015-09-28 Thread Harald Kliems
I would map greenways/bike boulevards as lcn=yes or, if they have a name, maybe as a lcn route relation. Other than that, I think it's more important to map physical characteristics such as stop signs, bike-specific infrastructure, diverters, and speed limits on those routes. Harald. On Mon,

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-06 Thread Harald Kliems
Did you try clicking the Edit in JOSM button instead of using the keyboard shortcut? For me, when I use the keyboard to get to JOSM, Maproulette skips the task and opens another one in iD and JOSM at the same. When I click the button to load in JOSM instead, all works as expected. Harald. On

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Also, please even if you see the crossing rendered, do go in and check, because I have seen more than once that the crossing node is not a shared node between way and rail. (Hint, use 'j' to join node to way and 'm' to

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Harald Kliems
I initially got that message too. But when you re-select the challenge, it will correctly show you the remaining ~19.5k tasks On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:57 PM Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Martijn, I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true? Less than

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Harald Kliems
I initially got that message too. But when you re-select the challenge, it will correctly show you the remaining ~19.5k tasks On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 3:57 PM Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Martijn, I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true? Less than

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

2015-06-19 Thread Harald Kliems
Richard, I would somewhat caution against penalizing unpaved roads too much. In many areas of the US they actually make wonderful cycling routes, whereas the paved alternatives are high traffic and unpleasant to ride on. Of course, proper smoothness tagging would help but that will be a long way

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data quality in Canada

2015-06-17 Thread Harald Kliems
A few things I can think of: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:13 PM Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: * Are there any Canada-specific mapping and tagging conventions? - There seems to be a strong consensus that what elsewhere would be highway=unclassified is highway=residential, no matter if the

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

2015-06-14 Thread Harald Kliems
Well, you've certainly motivated me to from now on always modify the tiger:reviewed tag :-) Thanks again for your efforts! On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:38 PM Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Harald Kliems wrote: Very nice, Richard! One quick comment: I might not be the only who

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

2015-06-13 Thread Harald Kliems
Very nice, Richard! One quick comment: I might not be the only who doesn't always change the tiger:reviewed tag when fixing TIGER-imported roads. I don't know if that's technically feasible, but maybe it would be better to check if a way has been modified since import, independent of the

Re: [Talk-us] Paved Shoulder Tag for US Highways

2015-06-04 Thread Harald Kliems
Larry, I think it's important to keep shoulders and bike lanes separate because they are governed by different rules. I'm assuming those rules are different state by state, but for example I would think that in many places it is illegal for motor vehicles to pass in a dedicated bike lane, whereas

Re: [Talk-us] Happy weekend - join the #Mapathon!

2015-04-12 Thread Harald Kliems
Madison Maptime Mapathon will begin in 1.5 hours, and it's a beautiful day here! In case there are Madisonians on the list who for some strange reason have missed the event announcment, please do come! http://maptime.io/madison/event/2015/04/12/event/ On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:28 AM Serge

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

2015-04-11 Thread Harald Kliems
In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky assigning the number to the correct building. And

Re: [Talk-us] Elevation in local units

2015-03-24 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Steve: one tag where units are in common use is maxspeed. The default is km/h but you can also use mph or knots. I don't see why this wouldn't be feasible for the ele tag as well. If you look at taginfo, you can also see that ft is used quite a bit -- unfortunately often in an inconsistent

Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Harald Kliems
A while ago I was also looking for a tag for this type of amenity but couldn't find anything appropriate. I guess in a way they're a type of leisure=playground -- so maybe tag them as that, plus some additional tag (playground=...?) for the fact that they're a water-playground? Or maybe coming up

Re: [Talk-ca] Jeux d'eau

2015-03-22 Thread Harald Kliems
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:32 PM Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It's commonly called a splash pad, but tag usage seems scattered. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=splash_pad#values http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_pad If you look at the discussion page of the wikipedia

[Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Harald Kliems
In continuing mapping destination tag on highways based on Mapillary imagery, I've come across the problem of how to tag weigh stations on Interstate highways (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weigh_station). I haven't found anything in the wiki, and I don't know enough how they work to come up with

Re: [Talk-us] Weigh stations on Interstates

2015-03-16 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM Paul Johnson Only place I've known this to be true is California. Everywhere else I've been, it either reverts to a highway parking area (midwest) or a public access scale (northwest) when trucks aren't required to stop, and when trucks are required to stop,

Re: [Talk-us] Bus flag stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:15 AM Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: or are they dynamic (meaning you can waive your hand in any place along the route and the bus will stop)? In this case I'd not map any bus stops (as there aren't actually spots). Also possible so much as there isn't an

[Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
With help from the wonderful folks at Maptime Madison, we're planning on hosting the first Madison (Wisc.) mapping party on the Spring Mapathon weekend. Nobody involved has ever organized or even attended a mapping party, so we wouldn't mind some advice. From reading on the wiki and various user

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
Thanks for the advice, Steven! On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:13 PM Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: It's great to see more events like this popping up all over. Is it due to the spring thaw? Or greater community interest? Let's say that they're probably both necessary ingredients to

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: The real core question is: will you have newbies or not? I believe we will be more on the newbie side. There was a Maptime meet with an introduction to OSM in November, which generated a couple new contributors who will hopefully

[Talk-us] Destination tagging

2015-03-03 Thread Harald Kliems
I recently captured Mapillary imagery along I-90W between Madison and Wisconsin Dells with the aim of adding destination tags to exits. The example section of the documentation in the wiki [1] only has German signs, which is not that useful. I'm wondering how people handle the highway destinations

Re: [Talk-us] Destination tagging

2015-03-03 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:35 AM Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see where you're getting the interstate references shouldn't go in the destination tag bit...can you quote the sentence/paragraph on that? Not in the text, but the first and last two examples

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-17 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 1:16:55 PM Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Are there methods of remote sensing (street-level imagery, data from other places on the internet) that could help us with the locality problem? Mapillary[1] seems to have tremendous potential there. They've recently

Re: [Talk-us] Why does the USA currently lag in OSM map quality?

2015-02-17 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 2:53:44 PM Paul Johnson Could use a bit of work. It appears to be detecting Share the Road signs as Cycleway Slippery When Wet/Icy signs. Feel free to help make it better: http://www.mapillary.com/map/games/traffic Harald.

Re: [Talk-us] The to way does not start or end at a via node.

2015-01-31 Thread Harald Kliems
at 7:41:01 PM Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 06:30:37PM +, Harald Kliems wrote: I think I figured it out. It's the no-U-turn relations (4286903 and 4286904). Instead of having the same way as from and to, they reference a segment further

Re: [Talk-us] The to way does not start or end at a via node.

2015-01-30 Thread Harald Kliems
I think I figured it out. It's the no-U-turn relations (4286903 and 4286904). Instead of having the same way as from and to, they reference a segment further down the road as their to. Probably that was caused by someone splitting the ways near the intersection. I haven't made any edits, as I

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations

2015-01-13 Thread Harald Kliems
I wonder if this isn't something that could be more elegantly solved via wikidata [1]. It looks like population data is not yet routinely included in the entries of cities and towns, but to me this would make a lot of sense. Much easier to maintain than having to regularly do mass mechanical edits

Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues

2015-01-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Okay, why don't we just ask the creator of the relation? I have added Paul Johnson to the conversation -- he created the first version of the relation and is usually quite active on this list anyway. Paul, what was your intention with adding I5 as a bike route? Harald. On Sun Jan 11 2015 at

Re: [Talk-us] Routing on Ferries

2015-01-01 Thread Harald Kliems
Graphhopper doesn't have the problem. It could be that other routers are using outdated data that did indeed have a tagging problem. https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=47.811656%2C-122.379627point=47.809696%2C-122.528286layer=Lyrk Harald. On Thu Jan 01 2015 at 10:20:45 AM Clifford Snow

Re: [Talk-us] access road routing - two real world cases

2015-01-01 Thread Harald Kliems
I don't think that this is a tagging but a routing problem. It seems easy enough to me to program a router do not use roads with access=private unless they are the first or last segment of a route or something along those lines. RE: access=destination. Not sure what the convention is in the US,

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season

2014-12-23 Thread Harald Kliems
It sure is -- as long as the postal code is coming from an appropriate source, e.g. a store receipt, a business's homepage, or your local knowledge. Maybe a note about that fact could be added to the instructions. Harald. On Tue Dec 23 2014 at 10:01:50 AM Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

2014-12-22 Thread Harald Kliems
Access tags seem inappropriate to me in this case. I would only tag the last node as noexit=yes (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit) as a way of making clear that the trail does indeed end and hasn't just not been mapped. Leave the rest to the users of the map -- maybe there is actually

Re: [Talk-ca] Discussion: zones boisées

2014-11-21 Thread Harald Kliems
On Fri Nov 21 2014 at 8:05:08 AM Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: It all depends on what you think the line that makes up the road itself on the map represents. If it represents a type of land use tag, then the first case makes sense as the land is residential in general, except for

Re: [Talk-us] Bicycle Routes

2014-10-23 Thread Harald Kliems
It is common practice to only tag the ones with actual signs on the road. For all the other ones you mentioned you should instead add the physical characteristics that make them popular with cyclists (surface, lane count, width, shoulder, smoothness, incline, etc.). Harald. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014

Re: [Talk-us] changeset 25081346 spanning contiguous United States

2014-10-06 Thread Harald Kliems
I use the operator=* tag and sometimes double it up with brand=* Harald. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 09:33:08AM -0700, Peter Dobratz wrote: After checking a

Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits

2014-09-10 Thread Harald Kliems
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking more like a stop sign is red and eight sided. A traffic engineer told me that there is a federal standard governing how intersections are marked, etc. You're probably thinking of the Manual on

Re: [Talk-ca] Question on CANVEC

2014-07-22 Thread Harald Kliems
Just delete and recreate. There have been several discussions on this list about the data quality of the landuse data and if it should've been imported in the first place (no data vs. bad data). Working with gigantic multipolygons is indeed a pain and I don't think there is any value to preserving

Re: [Talk-ca] Question on CANVEC

2014-07-22 Thread Harald Kliems
to some data) or I guess (no data to PIA data? :-) Andrew aka CanvecImports. aka I guess, one of the offenders :-) On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 09:25 -0500, Harald Kliems wrote: Just delete and recreate. There have been several discussions on this list about the data quality of the landuse data

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec

2014-04-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Just to add to that: The question of coastline versus riverbank is not just a mapping/geographical question, but also a technical one. Because of the length and complexity of the coastline and the requirement to render it at low zoom levels, there is special pre-processing for converting the

Re: [Talk-ca] Seasonal ferry routes

2014-03-10 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Bernie, I believe I looked into this a while ago and came to the conclusion that no routing engine currently supports conditional access. It's possible that this has changed in the meantime. But as there is an approved proposal you should go ahead and add the proper tags, maybe in addition to

Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-10 Thread Harald Kliems
Since this phenomenon is not specific to Canada (see for example http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/29/the-fake-townhouses-hiding-mystery-underground-portals/) it might be a good idea to ask on the general tagging list. I quickly looked up the examples mentioned in the article and didn't see

Re: [Talk-ca] workflow for elevation data

2014-02-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Charles, did you see the elevation profile feature on the Lonvia map? It only works for properly defined trails that have exactly one start and one end point, but in those cases it seems to do what you want it to. See for example here

Re: [Talk-ca] workflow for elevation data

2014-02-23 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Charles, last summer I messed around a bit with trying to get contour lines into my homemade maps for my Garmin GPSr, using SRTM2OSM. Unfortunately, I eventually gave up, as I wasn't proficient enough to in the end combine all the data with mkgmap into one map. There are pretty good tutorials

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2014-01-16 Thread Harald Kliems
I am happy to report that all of Canada should now be free of this issue! I just fixed the last one all the way west in Saint John's. Yay! Harald. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: Some updates on this issue: I contacted Martijn a while ago

[Talk-ca] Motorway_junction ref/exit_to

2014-01-16 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi everyone, while working on the oneway issue on motorway junctions I noticed that there are a lot of exits that lack a number (ref) and destination (exit_to). You can roughly see the extent of the problem here: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/27T Does anyone know of a source for this information

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2014-01-12 Thread Harald Kliems
the progress on the Overpass map. Cheers, Harald. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: So before contacting Martijn I want to be sure that we can properly identify the potentially problematic ways. What we are looking for are ways that match the following query

[Talk-ca] Overpass Turbo has gotten even better!

2013-12-24 Thread Harald Kliems
First the was the Overpass API, a powerful usable only by a few; then there was Overpass Turbo, usable also by folks like me. And now there is a wizard for Overpass Turbo, which should make the tool accessible to an even wider audience: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tyr_asd/diary/20548 Happy

Re: [Talk-ca] Montreal new editor needs help

2013-12-23 Thread Harald Kliems
I reverted the changeset and recreated the POI, hopefully at its proper location. Probably not worth contacting the person, but maybe we should keep an eye on him. Harald. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19598209

Re: [Talk-ca] Les licences Creative Commons 4.0 (CC-BY-4.0 et CC-BY-SA-4.0) est-elle acceptée par OSM

2013-12-17 Thread Harald Kliems
Bonjour Diane, there recently was a discussion of this topic on the OSM-legal list: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-About-CC-4-0-and-ODbl-td5779531.html As per usual, the bottom line is maybe, or maybe not. Harald. 2013/12/17 Diane Mercier diane.merc...@gmail.com Bonjour,

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Bing

2013-12-04 Thread Harald Kliems
Oops, this should have gone to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Bing To: Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com Oh no! I haven't seen any announcements and couldn't find anything

Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??

2013-12-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Yeah, I've been looking into that. I'm no Overpass pro either, though, but should be able to come up with something. Bug me again in a couple days if I don't :-) Harald. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: Richard, What I would like

Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??

2013-12-03 Thread Harald Kliems
Okay, so I've done some digging. Unfortunately, the Overpass API does not have a function to identify intersecting ways with a shared node. The only way to find those would be do do an Overpass query for all the bridges and then use javascript to identify the ways that share nodes. I lack the

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2013-11-27 Thread Harald Kliems
: The example I provided yesterday was not fixed. Most the exits having a similar look along the trans-Canada Highway in Quebec are the same. I have also found examples in Alberta and In BC. Daniel *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] *Sent:* November-26-13 10:04 *To:* Daniel Begin

Re: [Talk-ca] Keep Right Error

2013-11-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Adam, has this been a persistent error? I've also spent a while finding the source of the disconnect and couldn't track it down. There seems to be a random boundary somewhere on Cape Breton Island, but all the highways seem to be connected. So I'm wondering if maybe the problem was a temporary one

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2013-11-25 Thread Harald Kliems
Daniel, if you look at the motorway_link page in the wiki ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway_link) you'll see that by default it implies oneway=yes. That would explain the behavior you described. Most motorway_link roads will be one way, and should be tagged

Re: [Talk-ca] Why does a search for Edmonton show the city out in the country?

2013-11-20 Thread Harald Kliems
If you click on View Details you will get to this way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/28295454 I believe the problem is that the way is tagged as area=yes, despite not being closed. And I guess in general it would make more sense to have the city boundaries in a relation, not a way. I'm

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Cycle map

2013-11-11 Thread Harald Kliems
Having biked across that border myself, I can attest that there are indeed mean hills , but nothing quite as bad :-) I suspect that OCM uses two different DEM sources for the US and Canada, leading to wackiness neart the border. Harald. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Daniel Begin

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec 10 Data

2013-11-04 Thread Harald Kliems
I think Daniel's email got cut off at the end :-) On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not familiar with imports using Potlatch but importing it using JOSM is quite easy - open the file, select the features, copy then in a new layer and then upload the

Re: [Talk-ca] Where the streets have no name...

2013-11-03 Thread Harald Kliems
there. Let's hope we have some locals to finish the work there. Alright, on to Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville. Harald (who's currently in Toronto and marveling at OSM's data quality downtown!) On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: +1 I've never done real Canvec imports

Re: [Talk-ca] Where the streets have no name...

2013-10-31 Thread Harald Kliems
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Re: [Talk-ca] Where the streets have no name...

2013-10-29 Thread Harald Kliems
Bruno, thanks for this list! Something to do for me on those cold and rainy fall days... Would it maybe make sense to make a cake with MapCraft to coordinate the effort and avoid conflicts? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapCraft I've never set up a cake, only used ones baked by others, but

Re: [Talk-ca] Offset in Montreal

2013-10-13 Thread Harald Kliems
Bruno, in my experience the difference in offset is not the same everywhere in Montreal. In my neighborhood (Pointe-Saint-Charles) it is only minimal, but in other parts of the city I have noticed larger offsets -- though maybe not as much as 17m, more in the 5m range. Which one is more accurate:

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Larder Lake, Ontario completely missing

2013-10-01 Thread Harald Kliems
-- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Larder Lake, Ontario completely missing To: James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com I've quickly traced the basic street grid based on Bing and Geobase. Improvements

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