Re: [talk-au] Berry Train Station

2019-04-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
According to the wiki, railway=station areas start at the entrance signal from the perspective of the train, not the passenger, so based on that, the area would enlarge. However I wouldn't have though this entrance signal has any correlation to the cadastral parcels, which is what it seems you're

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

2019-03-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree. On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 10:59, Ewen Hill wrote: > This should be documented clearly. Whilst there is a lot of well known art > work, there are a significant number of sacred areas that should not be > mapped or identified due to the cultural significance. We only need one > person

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites.

2019-03-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 09:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > a rock engraving with no paint => site_type=petroglyph > a rock painting with no engraving => site_type=rock_painting > > Where it is both painted and engraved? site_type=rock_art > Yes, that looks fine to me.

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites.

2019-03-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 07:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Are you only tagging those sites that are open & already advertised as > tourism sites? > > I think that would be the safest way of doing it, because they are > considered sacred sites, so we should be taking care to not show the >

Re: [talk-au] Rock Overhangs

2019-03-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
rhang for what it is, and use tourism=camp_site to say if it's commonly used for sleeping too. On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 08:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 18:14, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> Rock overhangs (rock shelters) have been quite extensively

[talk-au] Rock Overhangs

2019-03-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Rock overhangs (rock shelters) have been quite extensively mistagged in Australia as natural=cave_entrance. Are there any objections to re-tagging these overhangs tagged as natural=cave_entrance to amenity=shelter + shelter_type=rock_shelter? Of course they would only be re-tagged where we have

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal art sites.

2019-03-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hey I was just thinking about this myself the other day. "Petroglyph is image created by removing part of a rock surface by incising, picking, carving, or abrading, as a form of rock art." So when there is on engraving, only paint then petroglypth would be incorrect based on that definition.

Re: [talk-au] Help with overlapping features

2019-03-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'd be cautious of using LPI Base Map as gospel, we don't know when where and how they source data and it's accuracy, so I'd trust on the ground survey/GPS first, then LPI imagery, then the LPI Basemap, in that order. On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 18:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On

Re: [talk-au] Bushwalking site using OSM

2019-03-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
e the same > :) > > > > > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > > > > > > > Original Message > > On 27 Mar. 2019, 11:17 pm, Andrew Harvey < andrew.harv...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I just launched a new map based on OSM data >

Re: [talk-au] Bushwalking site using OSM

2019-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
closures too, but that's less of an immediate priority. On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 11:27, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 22:19, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> I just launched a new map based on OSM data >> https://www.beyondtracks.com/ma

Re: [talk-au] Bushwalking site using OSM

2019-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
ost or > something about the under-the-hood on how it all works. That can help > others create the same :) > > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > > > > Original Message > On 27 Mar. 2019, 11:17 pm, Andrew Harvey < andrew.harv...@gmail.com> > wr

Re: [talk-au] Bushwalking site using OSM

2019-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I just launched a new map based on OSM data https://www.beyondtracks.com/map/ It aims to show much more detail at low zoom levels compared to most OSM map styles out there. On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 at 18:03, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I just wanted to share a project I've been working on recently, wh

Re: [talk-au] Station areas for railway=station

2019-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
would know this without being an actual train driver or with insider knowledge. iD warnings might need fixing in this case, but I haven't looked at them in detail so I'm not sure. On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 11:02, Sebastian Spiess wrote: > Am 2019-03-26 11:54, schrieb Andrew Harvey: > > O

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
For example https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/68527117 changed just one feature, there were about 20 other changes all in the same city, maybe the script has run it's course now I don't know, it's just lots of small changesets clog up osmcha making it harder to skip over them in bulk. On Tue,

Re: [talk-au] Station areas for railway=station

2019-03-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:43, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > If https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34891023/ is to be the > railway=station then it needs to be expanded to include the are of > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16748116 > I've expanded the landuse=railway area to include

Re: [talk-au] Correct tagging of railway=platform where it is a sandwich platform

2019-03-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
t the platform so it is clear which side is what, so I am >> for A. >> >> But am not worried by it. >> >> On 18/02/19 23:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> >> > All methods are in current use: >> > >> > An example of A: >> h

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-03-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Any chance you could do more changes per changeset? At the moment this is flooding feeds in osmcha with many small changesets, it would be easier if you did one big changeset. On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 18:05, Bryce Jasmer wrote: > I have written a script that will search for OSM objects that have

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

2019-03-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> Casual meetup of Sydney based OSM mappers, let's meet up and do some humanitarian mapping tasks on HOTOSM! Dion, is the intention to be a local OSM meetup + a Missing Maps ( http://www.missingmaps.org) style humanitarian mapathon? Should I come if I'm interested in Australian OSM, but not

Re: [talk-au] Very cool NSW transport real time map

2019-03-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Also https://anytrip.com.au/ On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 12:07, Dion Moult wrote: > Just thought I'd share this very cool real time map of transport in NSW > that I found online - don't know who is behind it but it's awesome! And > yes, it has OSM as a background. > >

Re: [talk-au] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Australia

2019-03-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Seems fine to me. On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 06:54, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in > value. > > For example "wikipedia:en=Australia" is an old style link, while > "wikipedia=en:Australia" is a form that is currently standard. > >

Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

2019-03-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm interested in a local OSM I meetup, I wanted to organise one last year, but finding a venue provide too hard, so count me in if anyone want's to organise one. Could just be an informal meet pub meetup. Personally I'm more interested in something around local OSM. On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:07,

Re: [talk-au] Station areas for railway=station

2019-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 11:43, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > If https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34891023/ is to be the > railway=station then it needs to be expanded to include the are of > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16748116 > That sounds good. > And

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2019-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Welcome! On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 08:55, Runarsson, Sigurjon < sigurjon.runars...@transport.nsw.gov.au> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > My name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW (TfNSW) Data > Services team which is a small but dedicated group which underpin the many > digital products and

Re: [talk-au] Station areas for railway=station

2019-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
You're right railway=station per the wiki Railway stations are mapped as an area covering the whole station (tracks, > buildings, platforms, etc.) or a node at the center of the station from > passengers' point of view. This is usually an unconnected node at the > platform area. This node does

Re: [talk-au] Correct tagging of railway=platform where it is a sandwich platform

2019-02-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
All methods are in current use: An example of A: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-34.04169/151.12293 An example of C: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-33.67210/151.11468 I wasn't aware of platform_edge https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dplatform_edge but in light of

Re: [talk-au] Accessing landcover/trees

2019-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
You'll probably run into limits using the Overpass API to extract large amounts of data. I'd recommend osmium as it's very fast. Here's an example using it to filter data by tags https://osmcode.org/osmium-tool/manual.html#filtering-by-tags So once you have an extract

Re: [talk-au] Bus stop info

2019-02-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Looks perfect to me. On Wed., 13 Feb. 2019, 3:48 pm Graeme Fitzpatrick Have recently been tagging a number of bus stops, & suddenly had a thought > of Am I doing it right? > > Here's one of them https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6273637341 > > Is that all OK, or should it be done differently in

Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

2019-02-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm not sure I follow your example, but... The rule of thumb is to only split the way when there is a physical barrier preventing moving from one lane to the other. As for Key:lanes, according to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes it's only for marked lanes, but Microsoft has been

Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

2019-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
At the Picton Road overpass you've got turn:lanes=through|right, only use through if there is a forward arrow marking, if not use none, so turn:lanes=none|right. Looks like you've done this everywhere, so should be fixed. If the road is oneway you don't need lanes:forward or turn:lanes:forward,

Re: [talk-au] more SEO spam?

2019-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree, unless they come to the table to discuss we should block as much as possible to limit their abuse of OSM. On Wed., 30 Jan. 2019, 7:24 pm nwastra We seem to be getting a lot of business edits in this form lately with > only a name and description tag, often with address details or just

Re: [talk-au] Access tagging for dogs

2019-01-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 08:10, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Would you need to specify that guide & other assistance dogs are allowed, or > is that a given? > > & how about Police, or are always permitted anywhere (same for Mounted Police > if you're talking about horses?) Unless the signage

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane City Address Import

2019-01-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Another option is take the CSV export from OpenAddresses http://results.openaddresses.io/sources/au/qld/brisbane_city_council and use https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm to convert it to .osm. It has options for title case, remapping tags, it already combines the road name and road type

Re: [OSM-talk] Streetview

2019-01-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 11:03, Alert Bouterse wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I know that it is not allowed to use Google Maps to "copy" streetnames, but > my question is: is it allowed to use Google

Re: [talk-au] NSW bus routes from opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au

2019-01-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 09:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was checking the use by another mapper of some Qld govt data for > copyright when I noticed OSM has permission to use Static timetables, stop > locations, and route shape information in > "General Transit Feed Specification"

Re: [talk-au] Drink bottle refund centres

2018-12-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree that these match https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=recycling perfectly. You can further use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type to specify if these are large recycling centers or just a container/machine. For Salvo's it depends, if there is a container

Re: [talk-au] Building Import for Ballarat - interest?

2018-12-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I think that now OSMF published their guidance on using CC BY data in OSM, https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ we should strive to obtain these waivers as much as possible going forward over the legacy permissions. I'm interested in an import like this, again done

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-12-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Just posting any questions here, works for me. I lost time to work on this, but I'm back again with free time heading into the holidays. I thought we still had some issues with the .osm files, specifically I needed to increase the generalisation to try to ensure ways that should be snapped are

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

2018-12-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult wrote: > I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! Admittedly > sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called "Transportr" on > the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. You could process the

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

2018-12-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi David, The process Dion set up is a valid way to contribute (at the same time you're not restricted to only using that approach). From my point of view, so long as 1. these changesets are somehow tagged or noted as being part of the NSW LPI Address import 2. addresses which are already

[talk-au] OSMF Local Chapter discussions

2018-12-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
There is a movement at the moment on the FOSS4G Oceania mailing list, https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g-oceania/, by the group who organised the recent FOSS4G SotM Oceania conference, looking to get a bit more organised through some kind of governance and organisation structure. Their

Re: [talk-au] Help with licensing

2018-12-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
the OSM data would be a mix of ODbL and CCBY licensed data? > > /cc Simon Poole > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM Jonathon Rossi wrote: >> >> I also want to make use of the QLD DCDB and was going to start a new thread >> on the mailing list about it today to work ou

Re: [talk-au] Adding lane tags to major roads

2018-12-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
ijn van Exel > m...@rtijn.org > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, at 17:29, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> On Sat., 8 Dec. 2018, 10:38 am Martijn van Exel >> That is a good point. The query would probably be easy enough to >>> modify.>>> Something like this... >&g

Re: [talk-au] Adding lane tags to major roads

2018-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
data). If you all think this is useful to fix / > complete perhaps we can set up a page to coordinate. I’m happy to help. > There's another thread ongoing on this list about importing suburb, localities and LGA boundaries. > > -- > Martijn van Exel > m...@rtijn.org >

Re: [talk-au] Adding lane tags to major roads

2018-12-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Overall I think it's a great idea. Could you filter out ways that have lanes:forward and lanes:backward? eg. https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3375/task/6686753 which shouldn't need a redundant lanes tag as you can just add them up. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 10:49, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > Hi

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-12-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 11:43, Sigurjón Gísli Rúnarsson wrote: > I have had some recent feedback regarding my changes to the ferry route paths > in Sydney Harbour in August this year. I basically changed the mapping from > single way approach to relation approach. The main reason for this

Re: [talk-au] SA Aquatic Reserves Import

2018-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for all the feedback, since this is very small scale and the feedback so far hasn't highlighted any issues I've done the initial import. I've continued to use type=boundary on the relations. I've omitted the protect_class since it's not in the original data, but followed up with a

Re: [talk-au] SA Aquatic Reserves Import

2018-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
https://data.sa.gov.au/data/dataset/marine-park-network-boundaries/resource/db08fa8c-2aaa-4937-9ba1-55a0934c534f is another dataset we can try to include as it bridges the gaps CAPAD leaves inside the coastal waters limit. On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 18:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I'm pro

[talk-au] SA Aquatic Reserves Import

2018-12-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm proposing to import 5 aquatic reserves in SA as sourced from https://data.sa.gov.au/data/dataset/aquatic-reserves 1. Licensing okay per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue will add a list to Contributors wiki page as part of the import 2. Conflation with existing -

Re: [talk-au] Hello!

2018-11-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Yeah it's the one you linked to in your intro on talk-nz, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 06:19, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > Hi Nick, > We generally focus on the road network and related tags / attributes first, > since Telenav tends to

Re: [talk-au] Hello!

2018-11-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hey Martijn, We ran a mapping session at the FOSS4G SotM Oceania Community Day today using maproulette. It worked really well spreading tasks out among the participants. Lot's of new people getting into using JOSM. I ran into an error trying to upload one particular GeoJSON files but apart from

Re: [talk-au] Question Regarding multiple alt_names

2018-11-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Do you have an Australian example? Highway name where the road segment has a different name I would create the relation and put it there. local_name is good for a local or informal or colloquial name. On Wed., 21 Nov. 2018, 4:22 am Nemanja Bračko Hi all, > > Can anyone help us, what we should

Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset

2018-11-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 12:29, Joel H. wrote: > > Thats pretty cool, I might compare a few of these roads. > > On 15/11/18 9:25 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I did some brief comparison it and there was at > > least one place where it was better than what's in OSM current

[talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset

2018-11-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I just got the permission waiver for the QLD Transport and Main Roads surveyed centerline dataset, they've only approved this one dataset for now, with the possibility to follow up about additional datasets.

[OSM-talk] Copying from a venue's website

2018-11-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
What's the acceptance on copying things like address, phone numbers, contact email, opening hours from a venue's website? Is that considered acceptable in OSM? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

2018-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:53, Andrew Davidson wrote: > Perennial streams are pretty rare in Australia. If you used the literal never > stops flowing definition, there would be almost none. Downstream of dams are commonly perennial since the dam will often let through a constant flow to maintain

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
get snapped together. In this case here, the two ways/nodes are 0.1m apart. On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Joel H. wrote: > > On 19/10/18 5:01 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > Is there a problem with crossing ways? Why do they need a shared node > > when they are different admin l

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Davidson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:29 PM Andrew Harvey > wrote: >> >> I'm in favour of first manually removing the >> state borders so we don't dump more nodes on top and then post-upload >> we can just join the new relations to the existing state bo

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Per the import guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines I've requested a review from the wider imports mailing list at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2018-October/005760.html On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 14:40, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > I d

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
ess this manually either during the import or immediately after. On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Joel H. wrote: > > On 19/10/18 5:01 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > Is there a problem with crossing ways? Why do they need a shared node > > when they are different admin levels? > > >

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
ck out > -22.5639465 147.0726169 in Queensland. > > As for way too long, I also don't think that needs fixing, just some > automated JOSM warning not taking context into consideration. > > On 18/10/18 12:30 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I tried to find out more about two JOSM warn

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
t 12:46, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:29 PM Andrew Harvey > wrote: >> >> >> So I guess at this point do people want to checkout the simplified OSM >> files for any issues? >> > They look OK, but I would like to have an opportun

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
want to checkout the simplified OSM files for any issues? On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 10:48, Joel H. wrote: > > OK, just tell me when you are ready, and I'll clean up QLD ready for > import. > > On 14/10/18 10:46 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 21:15, Joel H. w

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 21:15, Joel H. wrote: > > Hey Andrew, > > Today on the QLD slack, I had a local mapper ask me about suburb areas. > I personally think it would be an opportune time to start on the QLD > import at least. > > > What is the status on the PSMA data? Is it ready to import, and

Re: [talk-au] DELWP Victorian property data

2018-10-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 11:53, Philip Mallis wrote: > I noticed today on the new DELWP MapShareVic website that property boundaries > and addresses have been included: http://mapshare.maps.vic.gov.au > > Data page here: >

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Let's try to document things on the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/PSMA_Admin_Boundaries to help document, it's open to all to edit. On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 19:04, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 16:29, Ewen Hill wrote: > > > >

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 16:29, Ewen Hill wrote: > > Good afternoon all, >Firstly, I assume that this has been an issue elsewhere in the world > where a large body of official data over a wide area needs to be integrated. > Is there a way of going out to other countries and seeing how they

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 20:51, Andrew Davidson wrote: > One question would be should we be putting a place tag on admin > boundaries? According to taginfo only 34% of admin_level=10 has a place > tag. I say yes since these suburbs are an area not a single point. > > - how we'll manage that upload

Re: [talk-au] [Imports] Public Barbeques in the ACT

2018-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
with the search tool, then I'd use the Conflate plugin to merge with what's existing, probably keeping the original geometries. How do you plan to do this? On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 12:26, Riley Baird wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 18:09:20 +1100 > Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Sun, 7

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 13:10, Andrew Harvey wrote: > By state https://tianjara.net/data/PSMA_AdminBdy_OSM/ Just a note that I've just updated these files, to remove duplicate nodes Another issue is I've applied place=suburb to these Suburbs/Localities, but in many cases they'd probably be bet

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
By state https://tianjara.net/data/PSMA_AdminBdy_OSM/ On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 05:36, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I realised the JOSM PBF plugin doesn't like negative IDs. However > there are duplicate nodes, so i'm re-processing to fix this. I'll also > split it up by states.

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I realised the JOSM PBF plugin doesn't like negative IDs. However there are duplicate nodes, so i'm re-processing to fix this. I'll also split it up by states. Originally I was hesitant at doing that since you want shared borders, but we're going to want to reuse the existing state boundaries so

Re: [talk-au] Public Barbeques in the ACT

2018-10-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 17:48, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 16:19, Riley Baird wrote: >> At present, the data is released under CC BY 4.0 international, so it >> appears that I would have to send a message requesting permission to >> use it in a way compatible with the OSM

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've approached this from the angle of what we'd need to get the data to look like if importing as is into OSM. I couldn't find any tools which correctly ensure that boundary ways were shared via relations instead of duplicated so I wrote some new tools. The process I used is documented at

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for raising that. I'd seen some boundaries in WA defined in legislation as, follow this road, then that road etc. but I think that was for school zones. So the LGA and Suburb/Localities are defined by the cadastral plans then? I hear the points and see there is consensus to not reuse

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 15:57, Joel H. wrote: > > OK everyone I am currently editing the LGA shapefiles for QLD so no one > should attempt as to not create conflicts (although I'm not currently working > on the suburbs file). Don't worry, no one should actually be doing any importing until we

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
heck data > in their areas of interest and/or when they have time. (Andrew Harvey has > provided a script to assist working with PSMA Administrative Boundaries Data > and there is a link on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue) > > Administrative b

Re: [talk-au] Use of map data with no copyright?

2018-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Under the law, that map would be copyrighted regardless of if they mention it's copyrighted or not. It can be hard to work out where to draw the line, copying the name of a street from the street sign is okay, but going over a large map and systematically copying every street is not. On Fri, 5

Re: [OSM-talk] OEM Wiki is still slow to load

2018-10-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've noticed it too, it seems worse than it used to be. It'll around 4-10 seconds waiting for wiki.openstreetmap.org, but after than the whole page loads very fast. On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 21:15, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 3. Oct 2018 13:09 by davefoxfa...@btinternet.com: > > Hi > > For the

Re: [talk-au] Thoughts on highway=toll_gantry proposal

2018-10-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I supported the proposal, and see no harm in adding the tag on top of the existing barrier=toll_both tag for the immediate future. It will be nice to be able to distinguish these automated tolling points and the manual ones where you need to stop at (now mostly reserved for national parks, private

[talk-au] City of Melbourne Imagery

2018-09-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
City of Melbourne just released high resolution aerial imagery taken in May 2018. Right now I'm working to get the imagery into the editors out of the box (https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/pull/561) but in the meantime in iD and JOSM you can add a custom layer using this

Re: [talk-au] Sidewalk vs Footpath?

2018-09-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Americanisms creep into our language (and it > irks me a great deal!), I agree with you - sidewalk is more definitive. > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:57:05 +1000 > From: Andrew Ha

[talk-au] Sidewalk vs Footpath?

2018-09-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Personally I refer to the path next to the road designed for pedestrians as the footpath, assuming sidewalk is an american term not really used in Australian English. So I had set the translation of "sidewalk" in the iD editor for Australian English to Footpath, however it seems this is causing

Re: [talk-au] Proposed Brisbane City Council Datasets Import

2018-09-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but we just received the OSMF CC BY waiver from Brisbane City Council (updated at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue), so we're all green from the licensing side. On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 at 17:59, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On

Re: [talk-au] FOSS4G SotM Oceania

2018-09-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
now, so interested to > hear what ideas you might have to make it fun & engaging. > > Looking forward to seeing what's on the OSM community's mind! > > cc'ing the NZ-Talk list as well. > > Cheers > John > > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 07:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wr

Re: [talk-au] Australia maritime boundaries - import plan

2018-09-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for the detailed plan Lee. It looks okay to me. On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 23:23, Lee Mason wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Here is my import plan in regards to the earlier discussion about maritime > boundaries. Please feel free to ask any questions or make suggestions. > > > > Click here to

Re: [talk-au] Australia maritime boundaries - Geoscience Australia

2018-09-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I guess you saw already, but it looks like most of these have tags defined https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dmaritime Thanks Lee for posting about this and posting those GA links, very helpful! I'm in favour of importing these, it seems the GA data is good to use, but I would ask

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
arra, South Coast, New England, Eastern Suburbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_New_South_Wales but I've been tagging these using place=district. On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 17:21, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 31/8/18 16:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > (not sure why the split across 9 and 1

[talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
The Department of Industry, Innovation and Science which manages data.gov.au have just completed the OSMF CC BY waiver allowing the PSMA Administrative Boundaries[1] to be used within OpenStreetMap[2]. Quoting their email, "The Australian Government received great encouragement from PSMA

Re: [talk-au] Unmarked tracks (Figure of Eight Pools, NSW)

2018-08-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
would be worth adding some warning/risk information > if possible given concern for walkers in the area > > > > > https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/lookouts/figure-eight-pools > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > *From:* Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.h

[talk-au] Unmarked tracks (Figure of Eight Pools, NSW)

2018-08-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm seeking some feedback from the community about the way at https://osmlab.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/157934548 should it exist in OSM? https://www.flickr.com/photos/136319147@N08/22832546277/in/datetaken-public/ There isn't really any marked track on the ground, which is a big reason to

[talk-au] ACT, Australia Buildings Import

2018-08-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm interested in seeing buildings in ACT Australia imported into OpenStreetMap in line with the Import Guidelines . At this stage I'm seeking buy in from the local community as well as feedback on the plan. The data is available from

Re: [talk-au] Australian Marine Parks Import

2018-08-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
The Australian Marine Parks data owner reached out to me to bring the new Australian Marine Parks dataset[1] which went into effect on 1st July 2018 into OSM as they noticed we are mostly still using the outdated CAPAD 2016 data. I've updated the Contributors page[2] with the required attribution

Re: [talk-au] Where did we get suburb boundary lines in NSW?

2018-08-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Also http://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest/services/public/NSW_Administrative_Boundaries/MapServer On 21 August 2018 at 08:54, Andrew Davidson wrote: > http://spatialservices.finance.nsw.gov.au/mapping_ > and_imagery/lpi_web_services > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:35 Dion Moult, wrote: > >> Good

Re: [talk-au] Pedestrian/bike access near Wiley Park

2018-08-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
There are two main ways to tag footpaths (sidewalks) as you've pointed out, and documented at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks#How_to_map. Both are valid and there's no consensus. These two approaches can co-existing and an area can be mapped with both if you like. Personally I map

Re: [talk-au] City of Gold Coast / repeat requests of CC BY waivers

2018-08-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks Simon! I understand all agencies need to do their own due diligence in determining if they can agree to the waiver or not, but as you've seen at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue there are a number of other agencies in Australia who have agreed. On 14 August

Re: [talk-au] City of Gold Coast / repeat requests of CC BY waivers

2018-08-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
There's a number of people here in Australia who are keen to use our governments data to improve OSM and I'm sure there's been a lot of double ups in requests. I'd encourage everyone who's identifying data sources and asking for permissions or waivers to contribute to

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> If the OSM community accepts the OpenLocationCode, then it would become de facto universal addressing system. Only then people may start believing and investing in it. As others have pointed out the proper place for OSM to support the OpenLocationCode in OSM is in

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) Yes, but you're mapping the road centerline, which isn't a generalization but a real world feature. On 11 August 2018 at 15:56, Andrew Hain wrote: > The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 10 August 2018 at 22:47, Michael Reichert wrote: > > There is no need for this data in OSM because the data can be retrieved > automatically from latitude and longitude (plain coordinates) which are > already assigned to anything which has a location on the planet. > > Adding Plus Code tags to

Re: [talk-au] Ferry Routes mapping in NSW

2018-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I think so long as there's an active ferry route running between two terminals then it should have a route=ferry[1] connecting them, roughly following the actual geometry the route normally takes. Where you have a ferry route that sometimes has a few variants, eg. sometimes skips a terminal, or

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