Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-29 Thread Glenn Plas
-- > Van: Glenn Plas [mailto:gl...@byte-consult.be] > Verzonden: donderdag 28 juli 2016 23:03 > Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium > Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken > > > Wat ik trouwens wel een grappige changeset comment vind is de probl

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-29 Thread Bart Van Lancker
bericht- Van: Glenn Plas [mailto:gl...@byte-consult.be] Verzonden: donderdag 28 juli 2016 23:03 Aan: OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken Wat ik trouwens wel een grappige changeset comment vind is de problematische way : https://www.openstr

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-29 Thread Sander Deryckere
Just some notes on waterway=river vs natural=water+water=river. For me, a riverbank is either a line (a wall) separating the land from the river, or a sloped land area with water-loving plants that can be inundated when the water level rises. When you describe the water of the river, you

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
Now back on topic: we have the Leie's banks back on the render. On donderdag 28 juli 2016 17:54 Jakka wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/646584#map=17/50.82877/3.25798=N > > Please feedback what and where was the cause There were two places where there were problems with relation

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn Plas
On 28-07-16 22:38, Karel Adams wrote: > Hehe, Glenn, zo'n openhartig antwoord apprecieer ik wel. Ik heb geprobeerd het proper te houden met respect voor de mening van ieder individu, vandaar dat ik me oprecht afvroeg wat 'veel' voor je betekende. :) > Wat ik eigenlijk bedoelde te zeggen: er moet

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
On donderdag 28 juli 2016 20:38 Karel Adams wrote: > Wat ik eigenlijk bedoelde te zeggen: er moet toch ergens een "howto" of > een "preferred practice" zijn voor het mappen van een courant en > essentieel landschapselement als een rivier? > > Enne, jawel, het ging er me over dat er op tijd van

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Karel Adams
Hehe, Glenn, zo'n openhartig antwoord apprecieer ik wel. Wat ik eigenlijk bedoelde te zeggen: er moet toch ergens een "howto" of een "preferred practice" zijn voor het mappen van een courant en essentieel landschapselement als een rivier? Enne, jawel, het ging er me over dat er op tijd van

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
On donderdag 28 juli 2016 22:21 Glenn Plas wrote: > On 28-07-16 22:03, Ruben Maes wrote: > > On donderdag 28 juli 2016 21:56 Glenn Plas wrote: > >> No , not for canals, when I researched this became pretty clear this > >> was only meant for rivers. But the Leie is a river so it's ok here. > > >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn Plas
On 28-07-16 22:03, Ruben Maes wrote: > On donderdag 28 juli 2016 21:56 Glenn Plas wrote: >> No , not for canals, when I researched this became pretty clear this >> was only meant for rivers. But the Leie is a river so it's ok here. > > Well that's weird, because there's a canal connected to the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Karel Adams
Wat ik in dit hele verhaal compleet niet snap: Waarom is e nu klapsplots zoveel te doen over het mappen van 1 rivier (en dan nog *) Waarom zou die Leie anders gemapt worden dan de Rijn of de Seine of de Nete, Klein of Groot? Verder bemoei ik me niet met de discussie, ze gaat duidelijk

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
On donderdag 28 juli 2016 21:51 Marc Gemis wrote: > Some background: the natural=water, water = x was proposed by Zverik. > His idea was to make it easy for mappers using aerial imagery to map > anything "water"-like with natural=water, eventually someone would add > the water=x detail. x, can be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
On donderdag 28 juli 2016 21:56 Glenn Plas wrote: > No , not for canals, when I researched this became pretty clear this > was only meant for rivers. But the Leie is a river so it's ok here. Well that's weird, because there's a canal connected to the river and it also needs cleaning, and we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn Plas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28-07-16 21:42, Ruben Maes wrote: > Hi Glenn > > We can do away with the relation and make sure waterway=riverbank > is placed everywhere. But this has seemed always strange to me: for > canals as well? A canal is not a river, and the wiki on >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Marc Gemis
Some background: the natural=water, water = x was proposed by Zverik. His idea was to make it easy for mappers using aerial imagery to map anything "water"-like with natural=water, eventually someone would add the water=x detail. x, can be pond, stream, river, canal, oxbow, etc. etc. [1] carto-css

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
Hi Glenn We can do away with the relation and make sure waterway=riverbank is placed everywhere. But this has seemed always strange to me: for canals as well? A canal is not a river, and the wiki on waterway=riverbank says: "This describes the tagging scheme for large rivers", linking to the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn Plas
Hey Ruben, >> I do not see the merit of natural=water scheme at all on a river or a >> canal. It's a waterway. imho, there is nothing to migrate to. >> Unless I seriously missed something, the way to do it is the way (not >> the area) is the logical waterway. > > Both have disadvantages. They

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
On donderdag 28 juli 2016 20:42 Glenn Plas wrote: > On 28-07-16 20:10, Ruben Maes wrote: > > On donderdag 28 juli 2016 19:34 Glenn Plas wrote: > >> Ik vraag me ook sterk af wat de bedoeling is van de 2de relatie > >> die ook Leie heet waarin enkel de riverbanks steken. > > > > I believe someone

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn Plas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28-07-16 20:10, Ruben Maes wrote: > On donderdag 28 juli 2016 19:34 Glenn Plas wrote: >> Ik vraag me ook sterk af wat de bedoeling is van de 2de relatie >> die ook Leie heet waarin enkel de riverbanks steken. > > I believe someone tried to migrate

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
On donderdag 28 juli 2016 19:34 Glenn Plas wrote: > Ik vraag me ook sterk af wat de bedoeling is van de 2de relatie die > ook Leie heet waarin enkel de riverbanks steken. I believe someone tried to migrate to the natural=water scheme but didn't remove the waterway=riverbank. > Als ik straks ga

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn Plas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ik vraag me ook sterk af wat de bedoeling is van de 2de relatie die ook Leie heet waarin enkel de riverbanks steken. Als ik straks ga meten hoelang de Leie is adhv. deze data gaat dit niet juist zijn. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1201127

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Rendering of stream "Leie" broken

2016-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
Seems someone screwed up the Leie multipolygon relation pretty bad. I can deal with it after dinner. On donderdag 28 juli 2016 18:56 Glenn Plas wrote: > Area=no should not be needed on a riverbank. It's implied by creating > a closed way. The problem is elsewhere. > > Glenn > > > On