[Talk-ca] Tagging of roads in Vancouver

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Norman
I've been looking at the tagging practices in the lower mainland and the documentation on the wiki. I'm having trouble finding a consistent practice, particularly around residential collectors. Is there a consistent practice? ___ Talk-ca mailing

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging of roads in Vancouver

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Norman
Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Weait Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:46 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging of roads in Vancouver On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Paul Norman penor

[Talk-ca] UBC, Vancouver orthography, and street alignment

2010-10-30 Thread Paul Norman
UBC in Vancouver has been suffering from issues of building misalignment because the Yahoo orthography is misaligned with the ground and suffers from distortion[1]. The City of Vancouver offers some mapping data [2] which can be used with OSM. I've taken 16 tiles that cover most of UBC and

Re: [Talk-ca] UBC, Vancouver orthography, and street alignment

2010-10-31 Thread Paul Norman
...@gmail.com [mailto:samvekem...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Vekemans Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:25 AM To: john whelan Cc: Paul Norman; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] UBC, Vancouver orthography, and street alignment were still waiting for OpenStreetMap to change it's licence

Re: [Talk-ca] UBC, Vancouver orthography, and street alignment

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Norman
it is more specific than Re: Contents of Talk-ca digest... Today's Topics: 1. UBC, Vancouver orthography, and street alignment (Paul Norman) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:18:03 -0700 From: Paul Norman

[Talk-ca] Surrey Data

2010-11-01 Thread Paul Norman
The City of Surrey has released their GIS data under the PDDL at http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx Included in this is addresses for the entire city, lamp posts, manholes. I've glanced at some of the files in ArcGIS Explorer and the level of detail in them is excessive if anything. That

Re: [Talk-ca] Surrey Data

2010-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
given out enough detail to do so. From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 12:44 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Surrey Data Asked on irc, and PDDL is okay to import, so we can do this one if we want. Lots of great

Re: [Talk-ca] Surrey Data

2010-11-04 Thread Paul Norman
are outside their tile system but photographed. -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Norman Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:21 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Surrey Data

[Talk-ca] How to tag London Drugs?

2010-12-01 Thread Paul Norman
list. -- Paul Norman ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Hospital list...

2010-12-04 Thread Paul Norman
To get this info *out* of OSM you could use XAPI. A query like http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*[amenity=hospital] might work. The wiki has more xapi documentation at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi which might help. You should be warned that xapi is at times slow and outdated. You

[Talk-ca] Bing mis-alignment at UBC

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
Just an FYI for anyone mapping at UBC - my measurements show that the bing imagery is offset approximately 2m in the direction 150 degrees meaning everything should be about 2m north of where you draw it based on bing, where north follows the street direction. I took the true position as canvec,

[Talk-ca] Proposed import: Surrey Address Data

2011-01-04 Thread Paul Norman
I'm proposing to import the surrey address data located at http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx I've written a translation script for the data, and it, along with the data untranslated and translated are located at http://maps.paulnorman.ca/surrey/addresses/ Legal: The data is PDDL,

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Surrey Address Data

2011-01-04 Thread Paul Norman
I just wanted to note a couple of mistakes are present in the conversion of rd - road, etc, which are now fixed, and I'm re-running the conversions. -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Norman Sent

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: UBC Buildings

2011-02-08 Thread Paul Norman
a number of buildings with invalid geometries that it doesn't like. A site survey is needed to do addr:* data, but I find this a lot easier to do when I can print a map that has buildings and then write in each building the details. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal: Cleanup of NHN ways in BC

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
As an aside, the imports in the lower mainland were not done by Sam, but by mbiker. I'm not sure on the exact import process used for the NRN data. If I were to do the imports over again myself I think I'd use CanVec 7.0 which seems to have the same data but I haven't evaluated it in any detail.

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal: Cleanup of NHN ways in BC

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
, but it should be significantly fewer than currently and after simplification and joining named ways together it should be easier to go in and edit. -Original Message- From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:38 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-ca] Secret routing demo.

2011-03-05 Thread Paul Norman
I think I have a note somewhere that says This is confusing in OSM. It's worse on the ground. I try to include those when I map something that seems completely illogical, but is an accurate representation of reality. I fixed the Brunette/Bernatchey intersection - my imagery indicates that you

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
I prefer http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ogr2osm to do the conversions. To convert you have to write a python function that maps the shapefile tagging to osm tagging. This is not technically very hard, but mapping to osm tags is very easy to get wrong. If you're using Windows, I'd suggest

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
I'd suggest doing a conversion and posting a .osm file somewhere so we can see the proposed tagging. -Original Message- From: Samuel Dyck [mailto:samueld...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:40 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing MLI park boundaries

2011-03-26 Thread Paul Norman
The other information of note is that Sam did not remove his release to PD until Febuary 2011.[1] My interpretation would be that any changeset uploaded by him in this time is released into the public domain. Therefore, it'd be acceptable to re-import any of his changesets as they are public

[Talk-ca] Proposed import of IBC data (was RE: NAD83-SCRS vs WGS84 Reference systems)

2011-03-27 Thread Paul Norman
Adding talk-us@ and imports@ to the cc list since this touches the border. The IBC data matches decently with the NAIP and Bing imagery on the border, and very well with my 10cm Surrey imagery. The existing border data in OSM is about 20m away in parts (near monument 32 for example) The proposed

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Proposed import of IBC data (was RE: NAD83-SCRS vs WGS84 Reference systems)

2011-03-27 Thread Paul Norman
of the survey point. -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:46 PM To: Daniel Begin Cc: impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org; Paul Norman; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import of IBC data

[Talk-ca] Data Source for Surrey Roads

2011-03-28 Thread Paul Norman
I just finished converting the Surrey road data to a .osm file. This may be of interest to anyone mapping in the Surrey area. I've posted it to http://maps.paulnorman.ca/surrey/SurreyRoads2010.zip along with the ogr2osm translation file I wrote. I'm not planning to import it wholesale, just

Re: [Talk-ca] Data Source for Surrey Roads

2011-03-28 Thread Paul Norman
this data? Corey On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I just finished converting the Surrey road data to a .osm file. This may be of interest to anyone mapping in the Surrey area. I've posted it to http://maps.paulnorman.ca/surrey/SurreyRoads2010.zip along

[Talk-ca] Proposed import: Surrey, BC waterways

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Norman
In short, the waterways in Surrey BC are largely from NHN data which in some cases is accurate, but tends to be 20-30 years old. I'm proposing importing data from the city, licensed under PDDL. I'm at least 2-3 weeks away from being ready to do the import as I have some other priorities currently

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Proposed import: Surrey, BC waterways

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: In short, the waterways in Surrey BC are largely from NHN data which in some cases is accurate, but tends to be 20-30 years old. I'm proposing importing data from the city

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Proposed import: Surrey, BC waterways

2011-04-03 Thread Paul Norman
for waterways is can be found in Bridgeview at http://maps.paulnorman.ca/surreywater.html?bbox=-122.8773,49.2068,-122.8680, 49.2108 Hopefully this will help with determining if we want the roadside ditch information. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports

[Talk-ca] New Background layers for Surrey

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Norman
I've developed a couple of new layers that I use as background layers when working in Surrey, BC. First off though, do NOT import these files. Instead, merge objects from them or trace from them if you want to use them. The first is cadLotsSHP, the Surrey castradal data. Castradal data

[Talk-ca] Township of Langley goes open

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Norman
The Township of Langley has released a number of data sets under the PDDL, a license that is compatible with OSM, at http://www.tol.ca/ServicesContact/OpenData/OpenDataCatalogue.aspx They have released about 40 datasets which I will be looking at after my exams to see what has usable data. A

Re: [Talk-ca] NTS tile 040P

2011-06-07 Thread Paul Norman
From: James A. Treacy [mailto:tre...@debian.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:06 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] NTS tile 040P Hello, I believe I am looking for a subtile of 040P but the directory ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub/040/P/ is empty. This brings up

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoTiff in JOSM

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Norman
Two options 1. Covert to tiles with gdal2tiles or another program. 2. Set up MapServer and server it with WMS 1 is faster at serving tiles but takes more disk space and pre-processing. 2 is slower but better for large files since you don't have to pre-process. As your GeoTiff isn't very large,

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoTiff in JOSM

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GeoTiff in JOSM On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:55 PM, penorman penor...@mac.com wrote: I'm at work and going on vacation so I can't give a detailed answer for a few days, but this might help No problem, any help is appreciated. Once the

[Talk-ca] NHS=* in Canada and network types

2011-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
I'm hoping to do some highway work this weekend and would like to do any changes to the highway tagging at this time. The two unresolved issues were 1. NHS=yes on ways The apparent reason for adding this was that it was used in the US and is referenced on some Wiki pages. I've reread

Re: [Talk-ca] Alberta? Quebec? BC? Where are you?

2011-09-18 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] It is wonderful to see the increasing numbers of OSM groups in Canada. Fredericton, NB is the newest group to start, earlier this year, but who will be next? Will it be Vancouver, or do Van-OSMers just pop across to

[Talk-ca] Okanagan lake

2011-09-18 Thread Paul Norman
I noticed an issue with Okanagan lake in the BC Interior. June56 had mistakenly messed it up and it was no longer rendering. After consultation with them, I reverted changesets 9328821, 9338303 and 9338413 with changeset 9339109. I then restored the road and POI changes they had done in 9328821

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Fredericton Open Data website

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Norman
A quick reading of the terms of use at http://www.fredericton.ca/en/citygovernment/TermsOfUse.asp seems to show that they suffer from the same problems as the Vancouver terms of use and are non-open. http://weait.com/content/unintended-restrictions has an analysis of them. This is not just a

[Talk-ca] Proposed import: Surrey, BC waterways

2011-10-05 Thread Paul Norman
Back in April in http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2011-April/003929.html I proposed importing data from Surrey, BC to replace the current OSM waterway data for the city, which is derived from a NHD import. The license and accuracy of the data is not an issue, the only questions

[Talk-ca] Old CanVec versions

2011-10-15 Thread Paul Norman
Does anyone know where I can find old CanVec versions? I was looking into http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.608497 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.608497lon=-63.629537zoom=18layers=M lon=-63.629537zoom=18layers=M which I was pointed to on IRC and has a footway and a track running over

[Talk-ca] Motorways tagging at ferry terminals/boarders

2011-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
There are two different and conflicting ways of tagging motorways at ferry terminals. The first of these, as shown at the Horseshoe Bay terminal http://osm.org/go/WJQnahqdV- is of having one way where there are many lanes and tagging as highway=motorway. The second, shown at Swartz Bay

Re: [Talk-ca] Old CanVec versions

2011-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Old CanVec versions I've got a copy of v6 on my network. Did you want one sheet or all of it? Best Regards, Brent Fraser On 10/15/2011 2:06 AM, Paul Norman wrote: Does anyone know where I can find old CanVec versions

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] High-visibility Vests

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
. They look like this: http://schaaltreinen.nl/openstreetmap-hi-viz-vest If it looks a little wrinkly, that's because I brought them from Europe ;) Martijn On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: In another thread, the subject of high-visibility vests came up and I

[Talk-ca] Calgary Area Trail Mapping Project

2011-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
I was looking at the new truck rendering layer at http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=160 and ran across an import called the Calgary Area Trail Mapping Project. This is, as far as I can tell, the only significant use of hgv=* between Vancouver and Toronto. Does anyone know

Re: [Talk-ca] Calgary Area Trail Mapping Project

2011-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
From: si...@mungewell.org [mailto:si...@mungewell.org] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Calgary Area Trail Mapping Project I ran across some trails from the project when out on a week long horseback riding camp... http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.0671916007996lon=-115.9683108329

[Talk-ca] Surrey Open Data Hackathon

2011-11-07 Thread Paul Norman
Surrey, BC is holding an Open Data Hackathon on Sunday November 20th. More details are at http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/10036.aspx I will be attending and looking at writing some new conversion scripts. Does anyone have suggestions for any printed OSM materials to bring?

[Talk-ca] network=* tags

2011-11-08 Thread Paul Norman
I'm writing this late at night so hopefully everything make sense. Currently there are two competing schemes for the network=* tag. The first of these is ca_bc_primary and the second is CA:BC. (Using the example of a numbered route in BC) I propose moving to one standard. I do not know

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Argh, Canvec imports

2011-11-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Argh, Canvec imports On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I do bimonthly runs of the worldwide coastlines (http://metro.teczno.com/#coastline), and Canada seems to be a

Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM -- Canvec artifacts

2011-11-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frank Steggink [mailto:stegg...@steggink.org] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM -- Canvec artifacts Due to the use of Natural Earth (?) as a base layer, certain artifacts from the Canvec import become more visible, especially at the lower (= 7) zoomlevels. See for example the

[Talk-ca] Surrey Imagery

2011-12-15 Thread Paul Norman
Thanks to iandees, the imagery from Surrey BC is now mirrored with an OSM US server. It can be accessed with an imagery URL of tms[10,20]:http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.osm.osuosl.org/tiles/bc_surrey_2011/{z oom}/{x}/{y}.png in JOSM, or http://a.tile.osm.osuosl.org/tiles/bc_surrey_2011/$z/$x/$y.png in

Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM -- Canvec artifacts

2012-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 12:43 AM To: 'Frank Steggink'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Cc: gravityst...@gmail.com; impo...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM -- Canvec artifacts From: Frank Steggink [mailto:stegg

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 7 and lanes=-1 / surface=unpaved

2012-01-18 Thread Paul Norman
lanes=* and surface=* are present in BC (e.g. 092G02) surface=unpaved is wrong for the most part - they're generally paved back lanes. From: Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:33 PM To: rich...@weait.com; harald.kli...@mail.mcgill.ca Cc:

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap

2012-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
The administrative boundaries in the lower mainland are not complete. I've been looking for a source for the rest of them, but haven't found one. From: SAMUEL LONGIARU [mailto:longi...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:42 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca]

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap

2012-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
, Vancouver, Richmond and Delta are all incomplete I believe. From: Samuel Longiaru [mailto:longi...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:56 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap Ah... well that could be the issue

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:24 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Cleanup Most of the Canadian data that needs cleaning is very low impact. Two of the high-volume decline accounts are primarily imports that have not

Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline

2012-01-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: James A. Treacy [mailto:tre...@debian.org] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Andrew Allison wrote: Hello: I'm in the process of recreating non-ct data. What areas need to be replaced? I know that some PGS coastline

Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline

2012-01-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: David Groom [mailto:revi...@pacific-rim.net] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline - Original Message - From: Andrew Allison andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com Subject: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline Hello: I'm in the process of recreating non-ct data.

Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands

2012-02-09 Thread Paul Norman
If the aboriginal lands are the same as were previously imported in BC I don't think they're really suitable for use. A single reserve is split up into much smaller areas at each of the roads. While I'm sure this is legally correct, it's not much use for mapping. I think boundary=aboriginal_land

Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative Boundary

2012-02-09 Thread Paul Norman
Can you give an example of a municipal regional or upper municipality? Looking at the global usage, admin_level=5 is seldom used. I would think that Municipal Regional would be 6 and upper municipality would be 7, but I can’t really say without examples. I would also suggest that these

Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline

2012-02-12 Thread Paul Norman
, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: James A. Treacy [mailto:tre...@debian.org] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Clean up - natural coastline On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Andrew Allison wrote: Hello: I'm in the process of recreating non-ct data. What areas

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian Municipal Open Data Licenses

2012-02-12 Thread Paul Norman
I make extensive use of the data from Surrey and Langley and consider them to be models of the best practice for open data licensing, with all their data licensed under PDDL. -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:55 PM To:

[Talk-ca] British Columbia Coastlines

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
For the last couple of weeks I have been replacing the portions of the BC coastline which were PGS or CT-dirty imports with the latest CanVec/GeoBase data. I elected to use GeoBase since it's coastlines require less manual processing to get into workable form. This process is now finished, with

Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
Does this mean that they would form closed areas split like large lakes are? If so, this makes them unsuitable for importing into OSM without significant work. Can we see an example area so that we know what you are proposing? -Original Message- From: Bégin, Daniel

Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
Then I don't think they should be included in canvec.osm -Original Message- From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:04 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Bonjour again Paul

Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: James A. Treacy [mailto:tre...@debian.org] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 08:37:17AM -0600, Tyler Gunn wrote: With wooded areas and lakes I've noticed we tend to just leave them un-merged. I can imagine for boundaries we'd like to have them

Re: [Talk-ca] British Columbia Coastlines

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
any. -Original Message- From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:00 AM To: Paul Norman; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] British Columbia Coastlines Amazing task! And I understand that we should eventually have

Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative Boundary

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Norman
From the wiki, those look consistent with what I’ve seen locally, although naturally I can’t comment about Quebec. From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 5:54 AM To: Paul Norman; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Norman
it :-) Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: February 13, 2012 18:55 To: Bégin, Daniel Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Then I don't think they should be included in canvec.osm -Original

[Talk-ca] BC Highway tagging

2012-02-17 Thread Paul Norman
In BC we have remarkably consistent road tagging. Unfortunately, it bears little resemblance to what the wiki suggests. Being familiar with the tagging, I propose changing the wiki to match practice. Call it anti-wiki-fiddling. I've drafted what I propose using at

[Talk-ca] Coastline in 082L10.0.1

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Norman
Aside from the usual oddities, the coastline in 092L10.0.1.osm seems odd up in unique ways. There's a multipolygon with natural=coastline and the coastline is ways in the MP with the role inner. If you were to try to interpret this, it would be an area with the inside being the water.

Re: [Talk-ca] Closed Road Tagging

2012-02-25 Thread Paul Norman
If they were doing work on it I’d suggest highway=construction. If they’ve just closed it indefinitely then I’d say access=no is the best way, but is it really a primary if it’s closed until further notice? Access=no should likely be rendered at lower zooms when on major road types From:

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:56 PM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Richard

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I suggest that we can have more

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] The vandalism has begun

2012-03-11 Thread Paul Norman
Frederik, can we get these reverted? I'd do it myself but I'm not confident enough with the revert tools and I doubt this changeset will revert cleanly. In the particular example of way 44925685, a quick look shows no tags that could not be recovered with TIGER and odbl=clean. As an aside,

[Talk-ca] Bug in canvec street names

2012-03-11 Thread Paul Norman
In 092G03.2.2.1.osm I noticed streets named East 51st Avenue with two spaces between East and 51st. Additionally most of the lanes are tagged highway=service lanes=1 surface=unpaved but are paved, and should also have service=alley. They're also over-noded. This may be an issue with the

[Talk-ca] Proposed mechanical edits: GeoBase/CanVec Service Surface and GeoBase/CanVec name spaces

2012-03-16 Thread Paul Norman
The GeoBase and CanVec imports in the lower mainland suffered from two tagging errors I propose fixing with two one-time mechanical edits. 1. surface=unpaved service ways GeoBase and CanVec highway=service ways are mis-tagged with surface=unpaved regardless of if they are paved or not. I propose

Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:22 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM I've notice a few ways in OSM like this one:

Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM On 12-03-19 19:45 , Paul Norman wrote: I'd just retag as highway=service, but it definitely belongs in the DB if there's a road

[Talk-ca] Township of Langley roads background layer

2012-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
I have finished my translation file for the Township of Langley roads data. The resulting output is available at http://maps.paulnorman.ca/langley/Roads-201204.zip Included are the shapefiles, ogr2osm translation file, and .osm output file. This file is not to be blindly imported, but used as

[Talk-ca] City boundaries on the Canada/US border

2012-03-30 Thread Paul Norman
There are a significant number of cities in BC and Washington which have borders that in practice[1] coincide with the Canada/US border. Currently in OSM these are represented with many nearly-overlapping ways. The Canada/US border here consists of the BC-WA border, BC-ID border, BC-MT border,

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed mechanical edits: GeoBase/CanVec Service Surface and GeoBase/CanVec name spaces

2012-04-06 Thread Paul Norman
Since no one has objected (or commented) I'll go ahead with this if I can get it in before the rebuild starts. -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:04 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed

Re: [Talk-ca] upcoming Canadian press coverage and your local group

2012-04-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] upcoming Canadian press coverage and your local group Dear all, I expect that OSM will be getting some press coverage in the Canadian media in the near future. This is a wonderful opportunity to launch your

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline or water polygon

2012-04-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:55 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] coastline or water polygon Hello: I'm removing red dots on the north coast of Nova Scotia at the moment with canvec data. The canvec data

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? Dear All, Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ian Bruseker [mailto:ian.bruse...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:31 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? On 2012-04-15, at 6:37 PM, Steve Singer st...@ssinger.info wrote: I also feel that not of all data sources are

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Publicly available WMS server?

2012-04-20 Thread Paul Norman
Websites normally use TMS for backgrounds, not WMS. WMS is generally a lot slower than TMS. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WMS might help with finding a WMS server for OSM data. To make your own WMS server you could either use a program that turns tiles to WMS or renders directly to WMS.

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
2. There is not a consensus among the community that CanVec data can be imported without verifying the data for internal consistency and where possible against imagery. If no one disagrees with the fact there is not a consensus that importing CanVec without minimal verification is acceptable

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? Steve, Paul, I was on the impression that the consensus was more about using Canvec where it is the best available source and, when it is not, the data could be imported, but

[Talk-ca] FW: [Talk-us] City boundaries on the Canada/US border

2012-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
Whoops - forgot to include talk-ca@ in this -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:50 PM To: 'Toby Murray'; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] City boundaries on the Canada/US border I started working my way across

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Service New Brunswick address data

2012-06-21 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: webmas...@the506.com [mailto:webmas...@the506.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:51 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Service New Brunswick address data Hello...long time reader, first time poster. You may know me as

Re: [Talk-ca] Tr : [OSGeo-qc] Données ouvertes : gouvernement du Québec...

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Fabian Rodriguez [mailto:magic...@member.fsf.org] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 4:16 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Tr : [OSGeo-qc] Données ouvertes : gouvernement du Québec... On 06/30/2012 03:51 AM, Frank Steggink wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] redaction bot coming soon!

2012-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] redaction bot cbbboming soon! Dear All, The redaction bot is now in North America. You can watch the progress here: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php Each area starts from the

Re: [Talk-ca] redaction bot coming soon!

2012-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
The logs (linked from that square) say which way it was. It looks like the maritime boundary was large enough that two instances of the bot tried to delete it at the same time From: Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:43 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk-CA

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again?

2012-07-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: David E. Nelson [mailto:denelso...@yahoo.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again? Now that the redaction bot has apparently finished its sweep of Canada, is it safe for CanVec imports to be resumed?  I want to try my hand at importing a few tiles around where I live. The

[Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
This is based on http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-July/008830.html, a recent talk-us@ discussion about TIGER tags. Parts of this message are a copy/paste from there. Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the created_by tag if it exists on any

Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:57 PM To: Steve Singer Cc: Paul Norman; Toby Murray; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags I'd keep the accuracy:meters around. I've used that for other things (mainly

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:40 PM To: talk-us Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags I was unaware of the TLID bug and the fact that TIGER has changed their data model although I kind of wondered about this because I didn't see a

Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags I think the ways tagged with sub_sea would need to be deleted, not just the tag itself. These tend to be hydrological topology connectors under lakes

[Talk-ca] New Lower Mainland Imagery sources

2012-08-18 Thread Paul Norman
After some technical and legal work, I now have a number of imagery layers hosted on a rented server. These layers cover from Vancouver to Hope in 20cm or better and Lions Bay to Pemberton as 40cm or better. 10cm imagery is available for Vancouver, Richmond, Ladner, West Delta, the North Shore,

Re: [Talk-ca] New Lower Mainland Imagery sources

2012-08-21 Thread Paul Norman
You're supposed to copy and paste the URL from the table or click on the link, not copy the link. I'll see if I can clarify that in the documentation. From: Matthew Buchanan [mailto:matthew.ian.bucha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:01 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec import issues

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Norman
I see the problem as being the importing of everything as being the problem, not the geometric model :) From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:49 PM To: 'Pierre Béland'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec import issues Bonjour

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