Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I must confess taken from their open data source. Thanks John On 20 Jan 2017 8:17 pm, "P

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
We spent four years working with Treasury Board and Ottawa on the Open Data Licence and they took extensive consultations. Given four lawyers I'm sure one will say it isn't compatible but the feeling at Treasury Board was it is and the Ottawa license is based on the TB license. This particular dat

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
We aren't talking about removing all the bus stops in Ottawa again are we? I thought we'd been through the licensing issues before and for those of us without cars knowing the bus stop number is extremely useful. Thanks Cheerio John On 20 January 2017 at 16:06, Martijn van Exel wrote: > The l

[Talk-ca] building guidelines for Canada

2017-01-10 Thread john whelan
We have map features fine but there are a couple of things that don't seem to be as granular or directly applicable. So suggested guidelines please. The first is a strip mall with businesses inside. All the businesses have the same street number and postcode so they can be attached to the buildi

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread john whelan
My expectation is the full City of Ottawa building foot print file will be made available around the twelfth of January on their Open Data portal. Although the formal decision has been made apparently they allow their employees to take vacation from time to time hence the delay. At which point the

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread john whelan
> no one maps Gatineau(seriously, maybe cause it's the French side?) Tact my son tact, look the word up in the dictionary or you'll have Pierre descending on Ottawa demanding double Lattes. Cheerio John On 22 December 2016 at 18:40, James wrote: > Paul, I am aware of conflicts may occur, but s

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread john whelan
Ask him to show you his gaming mouse with the Hyperglide teflon engineered mouse skates. Cheerio John On 22 December 2016 at 16:28, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi James, > > Am 22.12.2016 um 21:23 schrieb James: > > And suddenly the osmcha disapproval from Nakaner(Michael has > > disapearedI

[Talk-ca] Community conduct / mapping

2016-12-22 Thread john whelan
Just a gentle comment. We do have mappers on the ground in Ottawa/Gatineau and we do talk face to face believe it or not and we have been known to discuss things over coffee. We have ways of disciplining tatty mappers, they get to buy the next round of coffee. Our local mappers have been known t

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread john whelan
Both the City of Ottawa and the Canadian Federal Government have rules in place about bribery and corruption. Buying a civil servant a coffee these days is one of the forbidden activities. I do trust you are not suggesting that illegal methods were used when the data was obtained. The use of the

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings has the revert finished? Is it safe to add a new Internet cafe yet?

2016-10-24 Thread john whelan
Thanks John On 24 Oct 2016 4:54 pm, "Frederik Ramm" wrote: > John, > >the bulk of the revert has run its course, I'm just sifting through > the remaining incomplete things for a little fixup here and there. I > think normal mapping should be safe now ;) > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik R

[Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings has the revert finished? Is it safe to add a new Internet cafe yet?

2016-10-24 Thread john whelan
Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread john whelan
need to allocate > sufficient time afterwards for people to review and to make adjustments > based on the results.* > If you are just going to skim over documentation, what is the point of > creating it? > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:28 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >>

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread john whelan
gt; note like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/741666 >> >> >> John >> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:57 PM, john whelan >> wrote: >> >>> A comment the data is of high quality and the building outlines are of >>> particular interest to

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread john whelan
A comment the data is of high quality and the building outlines are of particular interest to the Stats Canada Project where Statistics Canada is attempting to crowd source adding tags added to non residential buildings within the City of Ottawa and Gatineau. These include the number of levels and

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-18 Thread john whelan
I think it has been mentioned that unfortunately a number of buildings in Ottawa that were deleted already have some of the attributes that Stats Canada are after. I think step one is hands off any mapping of buildings for the moment in Ottawa. That unfortunately includes Stats crowd sourcing ini

Re: [Talk-ca] The Statistics Canada Project

2016-10-18 Thread john whelan
When I looked through the existing buildings I came across a tag that was ele often with a value of 2 or 3. I suspect this is the number of stories and the same as building:levels which is in wiki/Map_Features. Could any one confirm this as it is one of the attributes that Stats Canada is looking

[Talk-ca] The Statistics Canada Project

2016-10-17 Thread john whelan
First I'm not running it but I used to work there before I retired and have since have been bribed with a mug of coffee to provide some input so I think have an understanding of what they are trying to do. Essentially they are interested in adding details to non-residential buildings in Ottawa / G

Re: [Talk-ca] Avoiding data redundancy

2016-10-17 Thread john whelan
Orleans is one where the postal address does not match the municipal one. Orleans I'd a figment of Canada Post's imagination. Cheerio John On 17 Oct 2016 3:03 pm, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Hi Jamie, > > > Seeing as there are boundary polygons for Ottawa, Ontario and Canada. I > > think to r

[Talk-ca] Fwd: French street names in Ottawa

2016-09-26 Thread john whelan
​On 26 September 2016 at 15:02, Gordon Dewis wrote: I think John's point is that the official name for "Sparks Street" is "rue Sparks", not "Rue Sparks". If I were to go and confirm street names by conducting an in-the-field survey, I would find that the sign says "rue Sparks Street", not "Rue Spa

Re: [Talk-ca] French street names in Ottawa

2016-09-26 Thread john whelan
ot;, not "Rue Sparks Street". Whether this follows the rules of > French according to l'Académie française, or some other body, is a > different conversation. If I ask the City of Ottawa, they will tell me "rue > Sparks", and that's what should appear in OSM. >

Re: [Talk-ca] French street names in Ottawa

2016-09-26 Thread john whelan
unes” does not yield Gatineau’s > Boulevard de la Cité-des-Jeunes. But that’s another issue.) > > > Jonathan Crowe > The Map Room > http://www.maproomblog.com > > > > > On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:51 AM, john whelan wrote: > > > > I was under the impression that

Re: [Talk-ca] French street names in Ottawa addr:street:fr

2016-09-26 Thread john whelan
If I load the city up into JOSM it reports 1,306 entries for addr:street:fr. It's not a particularly important entry and its rarely used but politically its important as it is something that only OpenStreetMap and one other mapping system have the data for and can handle rendering in either Englis

Re: [Talk-ca] French street names in Ottawa

2016-09-26 Thread john whelan
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[Talk-ca] French street names in Ottawa addr:street:fr

2016-09-25 Thread john whelan
Some appear to have been changed. Please note the correct French name for rue Sparks is "rue Sparks" and not "Rue Sparks" The first word is not capitalised. This was carefully verified before the names were added. Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list

Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut place names language

2016-09-20 Thread john whelan
gt;>> using Native Languages. >>>> >>>> However, I think we should get some feedback from local mappers and >>>> other people who use the data, not someone from Toronto. If you look at the >>>> Government of Nunavut website http://www.go

Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut place names language

2016-09-16 Thread john whelan
You realise that the written language is actually European shorthand which was used to record the verbal language. Cheerio John On 16 September 2016 at 17:35, James wrote: > I personally dont mind having it in Native language, but if there is going > to be changed there should be a correspondin

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa has changed its Open Data licence.

2016-09-15 Thread john whelan
When I spoke to the head of OC transpo he assured me that OC transpo has full rights to the information as it created the set of where the bus stops are and maintains this information for disabled access reasons. OC is 100% owned by the city of Ottawa. Cheerio John On 15 September 2016 at 14:13,

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa has changed its Open Data licence.

2016-09-15 Thread john whelan
I'm fairly certain that the city owns the bus stops and doesn't rent them from a third party. Do you have an example of what to look for for the GTFS data? Thanks John On 14 September 2016 at 22:18, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > On 2016-09-14 05:15 PM, john whelan wrote: > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa has changed its Open Data licence.

2016-09-14 Thread john whelan
Robert has just added the water fountains as well. http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/public-drinking-water-fountains Cheerio John On 14 September 2016 at 18:30, john whelan wrote: > I thought it was quite quick as well. Still it gave me something to do in > my retirement lobbying for it f

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa has changed its Open Data licence.

2016-09-14 Thread john whelan
I thought it was quite quick as well. Still it gave me something to do in my retirement lobbying for it for the last few years. Cheerio John On 14 September 2016 at 17:19, James wrote: > Only took 3 years.*hurray*! > > On Sep 14, 2016 5:16 PM, "john whelan" wrote: &g

[Talk-ca] Ottawa has changed its Open Data licence.

2016-09-14 Thread john whelan
http://ottawa.ca/en/mobile-apps-and-open-data/open-data-licence-version-20 It should now be aligned with the Federal Government one so that should mean we can import the GTFS bus stop file. In Ottawa unlike some GTFS files the bus stops are very accurate, they carefully recalibrated each one as p

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Local community approval building & addresses in Peel region

2016-09-08 Thread john whelan
Good heavens and I thought guidelines meant guidelines not that must do everything that someone has written in the wiki. I think perhaps the use of I would suggest the following in carried out as recommended in the wiki would go a lot further on the community side of things as opposed to thou shal

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
>I think a super good first step would be try and ensure that future imports are done diligently and don't introduce new issues. I think that is a reasonable way forward, and I concur with the rest of your post. I think we need to identify which parts of CANVEC are giving concern, each province i

Re: [Talk-ca] unnamed roads

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
CANVEC has some road names in it for some provinces and areas. However cities do change street names over time and currently there seems to be a desire to remove all CANVEC data from OpenStreetMap. Cheerio John On 1 September 2016 at 18:31, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > My colleagues c

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
I think my concern is that Canvec data has been imported over many years. JOSM validation is now far more sophisticated than it was in 2008. We refined CANVEC over time, identifying problems with it back to the group that created it. Bing wasn't even available then. My feeling is that part of th

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
Canvec data has been imported for many years so why the sudden challenge and change? Are you willing to reimport the CANVEC data or are you intent on leaving a blank area in the map? Cheerio John On 1 September 2016 at 15:41, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi James, > > Am 2016-09-01 um 15:04 schri

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
ohn, > > Am 2016-09-01 um 14:47 schrieb john whelan: > > The Canvec data was imported with the knowledge and support of the local > > mappers and I think that's all that matters. > > An import of such a size and has to be discussed and approved on an > international

Re: [Talk-ca] Forests/Land Use, was: Canvec reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
And as someone who has deleted quite a few things in OSM I would agree with that statement. When I didn't have a better replacement available then I prefer not to delete unless I have done a ground level inspection and there really isn't anything there. I think my favourite was a mapper who was d

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
experience than Michael, we worked with the Federal Government to get the data released and although there are some problems with it the vast majority is of good quality. Cheerio John On 1 September 2016 at 10:18, dega wrote: > On September 1st, John Whelan wrote: > > I suggest we for

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
om making changes to Canada. He thinks he knows > better than the local mappers > > On Sep 1, 2016 8:49 AM, "john whelan" wrote: > >> It would appear that Michael has no appreciation of how we the local >> community work or of how large Canada is nor does he appear

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
It would appear that Michael has no appreciation of how we the local community work or of how large Canada is nor does he appear to be able to communicate with us and understand our concerns. I suggest we formally request that he is prevented from making any changes within Canada and his reversals

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
Note to Michael Reichert I think you should respect the views of the local community. We know the data isn't perfect but for the most part its good data and as Daniel has said when I've imported the work is done in JOSM off line over a period of time so the time apparently taken doesn't really in

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-31 Thread john whelan
> we need to have a "Whats up with the forests in Canada?" page on the wiki to explain our situation and how we've tried to deal with it Sounds like a plan. Cheerio John On 30 August 2016 at 22:41, Sam Dyck wrote: > After reading through the changeset discussion, I discovered that one of > my

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
But Daniel's comments make sense, I'm not sure we should go for this type of approach. Still I concur with them. On the forests there is an issue but its not open to a simplistic approach and hence difficult to resolve. John On 30 August 2016 at 18:28, James wrote: > I'm totally in agreement

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM - Gatineau largebuilding

2016-08-23 Thread john whelan
Stats Canada are arranging to make the Ottawa building dataset available on the Federal Government's open data web site to avoid any licencing issues. My understanding is the Gatineau data set will be made available in a similar manner. Jamie is more likely to be conversant with the availability a

Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap at the Crossroads – The Map Room

2016-08-17 Thread john whelan
There are guidelines on imports and change sets can be deleted if they aren't followed but if you leave it too long it gets messy as others add to the map. Cheerio John On 17 August 2016 at 18:44, Laura O'Grady wrote: > Interesting post [1] following up on Michal Migurski's [2] comments, > "ope

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings - project with StatCan

2016-08-12 Thread john whelan
I would recommend grabbing the Ontario and Quebec files now. You have already announced what you'd like mapped and I strongly suspect mappers have already started adding these attributes. Cheerio John On 12 Aug 2016 9:25 am, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > Hello

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread john whelan
) < >> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: >> >>> The postal code subject is interesting for many reasons. I read that >>> France has released a National address database, publically and free. >>> >>> >>> >>> There must be a way we ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
ts/postal-code-database > [2] https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/ > geo/bound-limit/bound-limit-2011-eng.cfm > > On Aug 6, 2016, at 2:12 PM, john whelan wrote: > > ​I understand the current intent is data.gc.ca > > There is actually a lot of postcode data

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
ugust 2016 at 14:12, john whelan wrote: > ​I understand the current intent is data.gc.ca > > There is actually a lot of postcode data in Ottawa adhresses as it stands > especially for commercial buildings. Don't hold your breath for Canada > Post and postcodes. > > Some at

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
​I understand the current intent is data.gc.ca There is actually a lot of postcode data in Ottawa adhresses as it stands especially for commercial buildings. Don't hold your breath for Canada Post and postcodes. Some attributes they would like at the moment I can't see how a mapper would map the

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
I think the Stats Canada project is evolving as Bjenk understands a little more about what he’d like and what we can do. My understanding is currently he’s looking getting hold of the City of Ottawa building outline data and making it available to OpenStreetMap without the current license restrict

[Talk-ca] Stats Can Guidelines for mappers

2016-08-04 Thread john whelan
It probably sounds dumb but building:levels etc will need some guidance, for example in the case of a shopping centre where most is single level but part, perhaps a third, is two levels. Gas stations building=roof with a separate building=commercial for the till? Is there somewhere in the OSM wik

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
Do you really want to add 300,000 building outline to the map? If it was just the non residential ones I think that is reasonable but adding every residential house is adding less value. Can we identify and omit the obvious single family homes? Cheerio John On 3 Aug 2016 7:57 pm, "Ellefsen, Bje

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
n Aug 3, 2016 12:23 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" < > bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > > The city of los angeles went through the same process(importing buildings) > and this might be useful for the project: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_angeles,_C

[Talk-ca] Wiki comment about Bilingual street names in Ottawa

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
Currently OSMand amongst other rendering systems will display most street names in Ottawa in either English or French according to the settings in the software, some street names have only an English entry. In 2010 a request was made to discuss the issue since the method used although used in othe

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
> Bjenk > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* August-02-16 3:10 PM > *To:* john whelan > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap ; Ellefsen, Bjenk > (STATCAN) > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada > > > > buil

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
geoJSON format > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, john whelan wrote: > >> In order to identify those buildings that need extra tags it would be >> extremely useful to have a map of Ottawa / Gatineau that could be loaded >> into JOSM. The Ontario map is too big and do

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
ce is. Thanks John On 2 Aug 2016 3:56 pm, "john whelan" wrote: > Most buildings in Ottawa are wheelchair accessible do you want them tagged > as such, we also have a tag for toilets:wheelchair > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:toilets:wheelchair> which mean

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
Most buildings in Ottawa are wheelchair accessible do you want them tagged as such, we also have a tag for toilets:wheelchair which means States if a location has a wheelchair accessible toilet or not. I think this might be useful to map

Re: [Talk-ca] Identifying non residential buildings

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
I think James has answered this one with the building tag. Thank you James. Cheerio John On 2 Aug 2016 2:56 pm, "john whelan" wrote: > Stats Canada is after information about them but the first question that > springs to mind is there a tag or set of tags we use to identify

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one tag building with the building tag and type? How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for the stores? Thanks John On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" wrote: > There is a way to tag a building type > He

[Talk-ca] Identifying non residential buildings

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
Stats Canada is after information about them but the first question that springs to mind is there a tag or set of tags we use to identify them? Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-c

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-19 Thread john whelan
e data of their clients >> to be able to ship their products >> >> On Jul 18, 2016 10:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: >> >>> On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote: >>> > >>> > … for the pilot what they would like >>> &g

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread john whelan
groupes > intéressés à vous contacter. > > Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient > par exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types > d'accès aux immeubles publics par les handicapés. > > > Pierre &g

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread john whelan
>Board of Directors I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca. Cheerio John On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > Dear members of the Board of Directors, > > My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and > Integratio

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
ill unfold over time. Thanks John On 15 Jun 2016 6:14 pm, "Paul Norman" wrote: > On 6/15/2016 3:08 PM, john whelan wrote: > >> >> Thank you Paul I think that sums up the issue nicely, someone at Stats >> Canada is going to have fun working out which tags are relev

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
at all. Fun times, I'm glad I'm retired from Stats Canada these days. Cheerio John On 15 Jun 2016 5:52 pm, "Paul Norman" wrote: > On 6/15/2016 8:01 AM, john whelan wrote: > >> >> As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used when mapping >>

Re: [Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
it could be done. > > Adam > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >> As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used when mapping >> buildings in Canada and the number of times used. This is to get an idea >> of what is already mapped

[Talk-ca] Stat Can and buildings

2016-06-15 Thread john whelan
As a first step Stats would like to know the tags used when mapping buildings in Canada and the number of times used. This is to get an idea of what is already mapped and to see which values should be used when new tags are added. I looked at a small sample from Ottawa and noted 127 different tag

Re: [Talk-ca] source http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/

2016-05-26 Thread john whelan
change will > happen or if it will (and they are just dicking around). > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:44 AM, john whelan > wrote: > >> I was looking in downtown Ottawa when I noticed two sets of addresses in >> the map. >> >> One appears to be labelled source

[Talk-ca] source http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/

2016-05-25 Thread john whelan
I was looking in downtown Ottawa when I noticed two sets of addresses in the map. One appears to be labelled source=http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/ which is city of Ottawa Open data portal which to my understanding isn't licensed for our use. I'm not certain how many other things have been importe

Re: [Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires

2016-05-13 Thread john whelan
s GIS Team Lead. I'm on his team and have >>>> been deployed to Canada to work in-person with the Canadian Red Cross. In >>>> terms of OSM-CA / Red Cross coordination, I can be considered the point of >>>> contact on the RC side until someone within Ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires

2016-05-13 Thread john whelan
Have you talked to dale.ku...@redcross.org? A coordinated approach might be better. OSM can use data obtained through the Gov Canada open data portal and has done in the past as far as I am aware. Thanks John On 13 May 2016 at 14:37, Dan Joseph wrote: > Hi James, > > It looks like some good p

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan
an mapbox in that region. For addressing do you > mean building by building or CanVec interpolation? > On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john whelan" wrote: > >> Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add >> addresses, the processes are quite

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan
Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times. Are we u

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-09 Thread john whelan
Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for buildings to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data sets we might be able to get hold of. I'm thinking of using the Treasury Broad gateway which means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with the prov

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread john whelan
I think she pulled stat can address data for Toronto from GCODP. Cheerio John On 5 May 2016 at 14:55, Begin Daniel wrote: > I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the > GCODP. > > May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? … > > Daniel > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread john whelan
roads nor for > buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan? > > > > Daniel > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* May-05-16 12:42 > *To:* john whelan > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort M

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

2016-05-05 Thread john whelan
I'm not so sure of how much value this is. HOT doesn't activate until it gets a request from the ground for that reason. If it does then we get two tile systems over the same area. Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every building, Ottawa certainly does. Th

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-27 Thread john whelan
hould just about work downtown. Cheerio John On 27 April 2016 at 12:38, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > This task was created for testing I believe. > > > > *From:* Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* April-24-16 7:20 AM > *To

[Talk-ca] Bicycle GPS tracks

2016-04-25 Thread John Whelan
My local city is purchasing bicycle GPS track data from a company that has a fitness app. Apparently many cities would like this sort of data. However it doesn't capture those who don't have a smartphone nor those who choose not to install a commercial app on their phone. OSM has a history o

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-22 Thread john whelan
Since you're looking to combine data from different sources I assume you know about the TB standards for addresses? I think they're mentioned here: http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=16553 I'm not sure how those standards would map to OSM and if all the elements are there. Apols to th

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-22 Thread John Whelan
Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: 1. precise location (coordinates, polygon) 2. footprint, size 3. year of construction 4. activities (use) 5. number of floors above ground 6. address (number, street, postal code) I think the first step might be to identify which tags are either in map featur

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-21 Thread john whelan
MSF have used this approach in Africa etc with the HOT mapping but you need the bodies to map the data. There maybe enough data in OSM already but the structure/tags might not be as you'd prefer. Cheerio John On 21 April 2016 at 11:35, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] Attributs des sentiers de vélo de montagne

2016-04-20 Thread john whelan
>petits chemins dans des parcs publics In Ottawa these are very definitely paths not footways, cycling etc is permitted. Cheerio John 2016-04-20 20:52 GMT-04:00 Bruno Remy : > Bonjour, > > Remarque très pertinente, Claude. > Cette recommandation mériterait d'être prise en compte, personnellemen

[Talk-ca] bus stops, post codes and rent-a-crowd

2016-03-19 Thread john whelan
​Mojgan recently identified that data from the government of Canada’s open data portal could be imported into OSM. I was nattering to Treasury board today and they were aware of the interest in Post Code data. Some of the Open Data crowd are making a push to try and get the Post Code data publish

Re: [Talk-ca] what looks to be imports in North Vancouver - valid?

2016-03-19 Thread john whelan
That would be my interpretation as well so there is hope for James's bus stops in Ottawa. Cheerio John On 17 March 2016 at 12:33, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Hi Michael > > Hi, > > > > I see a bunch of activities by user Marcott such as this (see comment in > > this and other changesets). > > >

Re: [Talk-ca] bus stops, post codes and rent-a-crowd

2016-03-18 Thread john whelan
afternoon and the advice given was every added request at the moment helps. Thanks John On 16 March 2016 at 20:26, James wrote: > Postal codes have already been suggested a long time ago > http://open.canada.ca/en/suggested-datasets/postal-code-database > On Mar 16, 2016 8:22 PM, &qu

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Thread john whelan
March 2016 at 09:02, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > On 2016-03-01 07:19 AM, john whelan wrote: > > > > My understanding of the terms and conditions for uploading data is you > > have to give permission for OSM to change the license from ODBl. > > Isn't it more that the O

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-03-01 Thread john whelan
n 1 March 2016 at 02:40, Paul Norman wrote: > On 2016-02-29 2:46 AM, john whelan wrote: > > I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the > license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to > City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-29 Thread john whelan
mport vs user created. > On Feb 28, 2016 8:48 PM, "john whelan" wrote: > >> I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the >> license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to >> City of Ottawa etc we'd like yo

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread john whelan
I think with the clause in the uploading terms that OSM can change the license its very difficult to import anything as it is difficult to say to City of Ottawa etc we'd like your data but we don't know what license it may have in OSM in the future. Is anyone going to take the responsibility on fo

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread john whelan
date nor to removing any bus stops already mapped. Oh well such is life. Cheerio John On 28 February 2016 at 15:19, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > > On Feb 28, 2016 3:05 PM, "john whelan" wrote: > > > > It appears in august 2013 user andrewpmk imported the OC transpo b

[Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread john whelan
It appears in august 2013 user andrewpmk imported the OC transpo bus stops, which is fine I don't have a problem with imports but I understand OC transpo issue a new updated GTFS file every year. Are there plans to reimport all the bus stops or will they simply become unreliable? ie most will be

Re: [Talk-ca] Triplinx import

2016-02-01 Thread john whelan
I had a skype call with Mojgan where we discussed some of the issues and there was an email sent to talk-ca on Jan 12th 2016. To me a couple of issues first are that the Stats Canada data was designed for Stats Canada use, probably for the labour force survey and as such provided the interviewer c

Re: [Talk-ca] Metrolinx: OSM Golden Horseshoe Address Data

2016-01-12 Thread john whelan
The issue has come up in Ottawa as well, some street names or incorrect, the city has been correcting them but there are some hundred to be changed when I spoke to the person at the city. CANVEC address import seems often to have been done by different people in different ways and in Ottawa many o

Re: [Talk-ca] Cycling map vs Standard map

2015-11-03 Thread john whelan
You can always download the area and render it locally with Maperitive or OSMAND. Cheerio John On 3 November 2015 at 11:06, Pierre Boucher wrote: > Hi, > Can someone have and explanation (and a solution) to the fact that for the > same specific area (small area a few square kilometers) the cycl

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-12 Thread john whelan
> This would be referring to the explicit permission that NRCan/StatCan gave OSM some years ago. This is a form of attribution. However my understanding is this was given before the OSM license change and before the OSM requirement that anything uploaded may have its license changed by OSM in the

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-11 Thread john whelan
not a requirement, just a suggestion. > > http://geonb.snb.ca/documents/license/geonb-odl_en.pdf > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. > *From: *john whelan > *Sent: *Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:19 PM > *To: *Bruno Remy > *Cc: *talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > *Sub

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