Re: [OSM-talk] Opportunity for a new featured layer on osm.org

2016-06-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 15.06.2016 21:25, Paul Norman napisał(a): With the MQ Open changes, there is an opportunity for a general-purpose map style to become a new featured layer on osm.org. The requirements for a new layer are at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_lay

Re: [OSM-talk] Video of node edit history

2016-06-23 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 23.06.2016 10:14, Rory McCann napisał(a): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRO-QZaWX8 Someone's made a video of the node edit history of OSM. As nodes were edited, the pixel changes. It's from 2006 to 2016, and covers the whole world. Pretty cool. ~3:16 in USA - what was that?... =

[OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-07-14 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, It seems that Lambertus, the admin of OSM forum, is not accessible for some time: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=54959 Does anybody know what's going on and if there's another forum admin who can be contacted instead of him? Nothing bad happened, only some annoyances t

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-07-14 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 14.07.2016 23:46, Hakuch napisał(a): did you try to contact him by mail? I had last contact in april and could try again Last time it was in September 2015, so not lately. =} Please, try again and let us know. I'm glad at least we have spam protection working, which was a big issue

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-07-16 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 15.07.2016 0:42, Michał Brzozowski napisał(a): Somebody also tried to contact Lambertus to no avail, asking for creation of users:Iceland http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=55089 It's not created yet, however (as a forum moderator) I've just found that last action on report

[OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2016-08-12 Thread Daniel Koć
What should I do with clear spam acconts/comments like this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/thepackersmoversdelhicom http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/39069#comment35334 Is there a simple "flag/report" tool available? -- "Low, low, low..." [M. Kempa] _

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-08-15 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 15.08.2016 15:15, Tom Hughes napisał(a): Lambertus is the server administrator. There is literally nobody else that can help you as far as I know. 1. Are we aware of any other part of OSM infrastructure vulnerable to such "hit by bus" situation? 2. Do we have a place where we could i

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-08-15 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 16.08.2016 0:42, Simon Poole napisał(a): May I suggest that switching to panic mode is a bit premature. Lambertus last contribution to OSM is just over half a year old, and there are other ways to contact people than just e-mail. Let me remind my own words: "I've just found that last ac

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-08-16 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 16.08.2016 12:04, Hakuch napisał(a): as this new-server-software project will take some time. How do you think about hijacking another country-subforum? There are a lot where no one is active with only very few posts. I would accept it as temporary solution. No need to invade Uruguay

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto issues of interest

2016-08-19 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 19.08.2016 1:53, Paul Norman napisał(a): There are some OpenStreetMap Carto issues which might be interesting to a larger audience Thanks for spreading the message! I guess making construction color less dominant might be interesting too, since it's quite popular (>76k uses): https:/

[OSM-talk] Artwork problems

2016-08-25 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.08.2016 11:10, Svavar Kjarrval napisał(a): My artwork changesets would like to thank you for this update. It's now a little easier to impress the tourism boards. :) Great! =} I was planning to create such icon long time ago, but it was hard to find something good enough for such a ge

Re: [OSM-talk] Artwork problems

2016-09-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 31.08.2016 13:04, Janko Mihelić napisał(a): čet, 25. kol 2016. u 15:30 Daniel Koć napisao je: I've also noticed that the line between artworks and memorials is blurred, especially with statues In my opinion, we can use both tags. If something is a sculpture, add tourism=ar

Re: [OSM-talk] Artwork problems

2016-09-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.09.2016 8:15, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): actually, if it's just decorative, it's not art ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decorative_arts =P -- "To co ludzie zwą marskością wątroby/ Tak naprawdę jest śmiercią z tęsknoty" [Afro Kolektyw]

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

2016-09-06 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 06.09.2016 10:10, Tom Hughes napisał(a): This release will likely be deployed next weekend once the third tile server has been upgraded. Will this upgrade bring any interesting features and optimizations or it's just a typical system/security upgrade? -- "To co ludzie zwą marskością

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

2016-09-06 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 06.09.2016 13:52, Tom Hughes napisał(a): Well it brings the tile servers to mapnik 3 which may have a few immediate effects like improved rendering of asian scripts but which mostly allows future stylesheet updates to use mapnik 3 features. That's great! This should be an improvement in

[OSM-talk] Planned water color change on osm-carto

2016-09-22 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I want to change the water color on default OSM map layer (osm-carto style) and wile the code itself is very simple: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/master...kocio-pl:water the water is so important map feature, that I want to test it as wide as possible. So i

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned water color change on osm-carto

2016-09-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.09.2016 20:55, Christoph Hormann napisał(a): Note there is also the suggestion for a more discerning change in the way water features are rendered by showing different types of waterbodies in different colors. I was not sure what do you think about it after my answer, since there wa

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned water color change on osm-carto

2016-09-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.09.2016 19:48, Pierre Béland napisał(a): That lengthy discussion mentions that contrast is not high enough with surrounding forest. The question is Should we modify lake or forest color? This was just a starting point, which pushed me to think about the bigger problem. I simply dis

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-10-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 16.08.2016 11:45, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson napisał(a): As for "no panic" then we've got several projects cooking in Iceland after a beneficial annual meeting but we've not launched them yet because we don't want to fragment any more than strictly needed so the forum issue has been plaguing

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.45.0

2016-11-28 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v2.45.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include: - Rendering all shops without a specific icon as a dot, not just a whitelist - Scrub pattern change to random - Changing pitch and track color - Rail

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.45.1

2016-12-03 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v2.45.1 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. This is a bugfix release restoring two icons: -

[OSM-talk] Arabic script at default OSM.org map style

2016-12-16 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I'm one of the developers of osm-carto (default OSM.org map style). Recently we're trying to improve text rendering, especially for non-western scripts. However we're not sure which font to use for arabic labels, because we're not familiar with it, and we're looking for more input on this

Re: [OSM-talk] Square (Place, Platz,Piazza, Plaza, …)

2017-01-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.01.2017 13:16, mbranco napisał(a): *Request* Please render the place=square tag (or a new tag, whatever you prefer). If you mean default style (osm-carto), it's already appointed for rendering =} : https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2203 I support th

Re: [OSM-talk] Square (Place, Platz,Piazza, Plaza, …)

2017-01-02 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.01.2017 17:34, mbranco napisał(a): Also, to speed up the process I'd like to inform all interested people that I've done some tests with guys of Osmose to report in their excellent site all the (likely) Italian squares: to do this my script look for all osm objects tagged with "name=

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

2017-01-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.01.2017 12:42, Simon Poole napisał(a): It is less a HW issue but more that you would still need to keep 10+ tile servers plus databases running which is, ahem, silly :-). With Docker containers it might not be any wiser =} , but it should be at least easy to manage. -- "A dragon li

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 13.08.2016 16:10, Ruben Maes napisał(a): On vrijdag 12 augustus 2016 15:47 Daniel Koć wrote: What should I do with clear spam acconts/comments like this?: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/thepackersmoversdelhicom http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/39069

Re: [OSM-talk] Spam reporting

2017-02-23 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 23.02.2017 10:48, Jochen Topf napisał(a): Every larger system that allows user contributions has a "report this as spam" button. If a few people click on that, an admin reviews and handles this. Sounds like an obvious solution that could also work for OSM. Not being able to report proble

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=stream + intermittent=yes: in black dotted line

2017-06-18 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 19.06.2017 o 00:43, Sérgio V. pisze: Hi, please, is there still a rendering bug on waterway=stream? It only appeared for the ones also tagged as "intermittent=yes", rendering in black dotted. If I understand correctly, this bug is fixed in osm-carto 3.3.1, but this version is still n

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering questions

2017-07-06 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 06.07.2017 o 11:43, Maarten Deen pisze: 2) When rendering public transport platforms, the layer tag does not seem to be taken into account, making platforms that are areas render below roads that are running under the platform. Example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/222561489 but the

[OSM-talk] Openstreetmap-carto rendering environment

2017-07-11 Thread Daniel Koć
There's no release yet (it's just in our code repository), but I want to inform you that openstreetmap-carto offers now easy to set up, Docker-based rendering environment: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/DOCKER.md You can edit style files and see the results imm

[OSM-talk] Looking for a server for the map style testing

2017-07-12 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, We're almost ready to change how the mid-zoom levels are displayed on the default map style - and at the same time to change water color to a different shade of blue. See discussion with rendering examples here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2654 It can have a

[OSM-talk] osm-carto v3 - end of life?

2017-07-20 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I'm looking for the users who are deploying default OSM map style (openstreetmap-carto) from series v3. There is v4 series available for few weeks already, but the problem is you need to reload database for this upgrade, which might be a problem. We've made a statement in our documentati

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.1.0

2017-07-30 Thread Daniel Koć
|Dear all, Today, v4.1.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released |||and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering.| Changes include - Malls are no longer render

[OSM-talk] Planned text rendering changes on osm-carto

2017-08-11 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, At osm-carto (default map style for OSM.org) we plan to make some changes with general text rendering. For western scripts they look OK, but it would be good to test it by people using/knowing other scripts too. Let us know if you have any comments. Smaller line spacing: - https://gith

[OSM-talk] Macromapping problems

2017-08-21 Thread Daniel Koć
I guess most of you understand the problems of so called "micromapping" (very detailed geo data mapping). But when I started to look at the opposite end (macro level), it looks even worse. Low zoom rendering on default map style lacks lot of important things (see https://github.com/gravitystor

Re: [OSM-talk] Macromapping problems

2017-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2017 o 08:38, Oleksiy Muzalyev pisze: Irkutsk Oblast has got an area larger than the area of say Germany, California, or France. The nature, woods, rivers, lakes, etc. there is amazing. It is one of the most beautiful regions of the planet. Actually the whole territory at and arou

Re: [OSM-talk] Macromapping problems

2017-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2017 o 19:59, Oleksiy Muzalyev pisze: In fact I am working on a project in this field. I am mapping landuse of the South Ukraine http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/46.9634/31.5143 This is what I consider to be midzoom. You can see it here (and soon also on z8+on default map):

Re: [OSM-talk] Macromapping problems

2017-08-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.08.2017 o 22:29, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: it's not easy for forests or similar things either, because they might be split (for good reason) into several smaller objects. What you need for good macro maps is generalization, i.e. merging together of similar things, reduction of unwan

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.2.0

2017-08-25 Thread Daniel Koć
|Dear all, Today, v4.2.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include: Major changes - Water color and default water text color are changed to be more visible - Medium zoom level (z8-z12) rework: - Landuses colors are fad

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.2.0

2017-08-26 Thread Daniel Koć
By the way - I have also updated the "wiki key" as far as I could: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Standard_tile_layer/Key osm-carto is really huge if you look this way and I'm not even familiar with some of these features! If you see that something missing or not correct, please make an e

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing 850+ disambiguation errors

2017-09-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.09.2017 o 07:09, Yuri Astrakhan pisze: Hello mappers! Could anyone help with over 800 OSM objects that are pointing to Wikipedia disambiguation pages? Especially Polish community - 588. We have currently a coordinated effort in Polish community to fix it, so it should be cleaned soo

[OSM-talk] Place names tagging, rendering and processing

2017-09-10 Thread Daniel Koć
Sorry for cross-posting on 3 lists, but this subject is rather wide. There's a big discussion on osm-carto about rendering and tagging place=* names, especially when tagged as an area (but also in general): https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2816 It was also suggested to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

2017-09-19 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 20.09.2017 o 03:09, Devon Fyson pisze: However on the other hand GitHub is very popular and there would likely be poor buy-in if contributors were asked to use a different system. Therefore I propose that a new template be made on the wiki which is specifically for referring tools in any

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-25 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.09.2017 o 13:15, Maarten Deen pisze: Of course this is impractical in the UI in the current way of selecting layers (where each layer has its own check box to enable it), I was more thinking in the line of having a dropdown box for all language overlays. No idea if this is currently p

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.09.2017 o 23:00, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: for the record: using Latin would be the completely wrong message we could send out IMHO. It would make us look like an elitist circle [1] and would make many people feel rejected, or at least make them turn away as soon as they get to know

Re: [OSM-talk] All the subway systems in the world

2017-09-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.09.2017 o 18:35, Ilya Zverev pisze: usable, I've compiled a list of practices on this page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Metro_Mapping Some questions are answered on the Talk page there. Next week I'll open a voting, so that tagging schema could be made offi

[OSM-talk] Island/islet area tagging

2017-10-15 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, We'll probably start to render island/islet labels earlier (if the code will be merged, of course), so I've made a short info with renderings on z4-z6 showing only island names on the planet: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2890#issuecomment-336664545 It looks li

[OSM-talk] Hardware partnership and projects wishlist

2017-10-15 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I'm looking for partners with hardware resources in Poland to use it for some interesting OSM-related projects. I've made basic research with OSMF, French and German pages about hardware and network connectivity and it looks like they collaborate with academic and business world: - htt

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.4.0

2017-10-20 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.4.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include: Major changes - Rendering inland water areas and labels from z0 - Rendering island and islet labels earlier Changes - Rendering of amenity=marketplace

Re: [OSM-talk] How to create custom online map from OpenStreetMap

2017-10-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 23.10.2017 o 22:06, Andy Townsend pisze: On 22/10/2017 18:47, Carlos Cámara wrote: I would like to create a custom map for online use that loads OSM data but displays it in different ways as the standard, cyclemap, transport... layers. The most important question is: how do you want it

[OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move it to "Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users" or there are some not obvious problem

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-25 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:42, Maarten Deen pisze: On 2017-10-25 07:31, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users&quo

Re: [OSM-talk] Topology rules

2017-10-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.10.2017 o 23:36, Warin pisze: While natural=wood renders, I also tag them as landcover=trees as that is more truthful of what is there. So these tree areas get two tags from me until such time as landcover is rendered then I will remove the natural tag. If you mean standard tile laye

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-27 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 27.10.2017 o 08:36, Warin pisze: The landuse key is clearly to tag the use of the land by humans. It's also to indicate use of the water, hence it's not 100% clear and I understand why some people don't like it. The natural key is unclear - it seams to be for both things made by nat

[OSM-talk] Wiki problems (was: weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23)

2017-10-29 Thread Daniel Koć
Could we please use more descriptive subject for discussing wiki issues? W dniu 29.10.2017 o 08:45, Simon Poole pisze: Regardless of what measures I think are appropriate, it is clear that if something doesn't change the net result will be a perma-ban which has been pointed out to him multiple

[OSM-talk] MapRoulette task creation

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel Koć
I have two ideas for MapRoulette, but I haven't tried to set my own challenge yet and the main problem is that I don't know how to prepare the data, since both are about nested areas: 1. Checking if amenity=place_of_worship way without building=* tag inside another amenity=place_of_worship or

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-10-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.10.2017 o 18:13, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: one tag for what? An area with trees? A forest? How would you define "forest"? "Although /forest/ is a term of common parlance, there is no universally recognised precise definition, with more than 800 definitions of forest used around the

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-11-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 01.11.2017 o 14:36, Andy Townsend pisze: On 01/11/2017 13:28, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: Still, the OSM map remains unusable on the global scale. For instance, I read an article about the new railroad North-South. I wanted to see it on the OSM map but I could not even find Iran on the map.

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-11-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 01.11.2017 o 14:28, Oleksiy Muzalyev pisze: A would-be future vector map, probably, is not a a good solution, as it does not use the principle of precalculation. The Latin language has been used for centuries in science (including geography and cartography). Its popularity is growing no

Re: [OSM-talk] Woods vs Forests

2017-11-01 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 02.11.2017 o 07:14, Warin pisze: On 02-Nov-17 02:31 PM, Stephane Goldstein wrote: Do you have any other words that smean tree planting, growing and then harvesting?? And don't mean anything else? The closest I have is 'forestry'. landuse=forestry is a good option as well.

[OSM-talk] Hillshading on OSM maps

2017-11-06 Thread Daniel Koć
I was thinking about hillshading on the osm-carto as part of the low zoom improvement process. The idea was quickly rejected: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2931 but I wanted to look deeper and ask about your experiences with hillshading on the maps using OSM data (

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious JOSM performance degradation

2017-11-11 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 11.11.2017 o 22:55, john whelan pisze: >17MiB Interesting file size.  What is a MiB? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte -- "My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org htt

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.5.0

2017-11-17 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.5.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include: Major changes - Cleaning up low zoom levels (z5-z7): - Rendering roads from z6 instead of z5 - Rendering national parks from z8 instead of z7 - R

Re: [OSM-talk] How to show school icons ?

2017-11-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 24.11.2017 o 08:57, David SAUVAGE pisze: What would be the process to change this situation in order for school icons to be displayed on osm map with the same priority of a library ? Let me quote what I've just wrote in the osm-carto issue tracker: "We had a PR which was almost ready, b

[OSM-talk] OSM Tag History updates - call for help

2017-11-25 Thread Daniel Koć
OSM Tag History is a great service which shows the changes of a given tag used in the OSM database. Probably some of you already know it: http://taghistory.raifer.tech The problem is however that it needs a full database, which includes tag history. The author is not willing to run it himself,

[OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-11-30 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I'm thinking about changes in rendering of protected areas on osm-carto and I wanted to give community a hint, because it's a popular kind of objects. There is a fresh discussion about it from this comment on: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/603#issuecomment-347

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-11-30 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 30.11.2017 o 17:38, Christoph Hormann pisze: There are 62k uses of boundary=protected_area and 77k of leisure=nature_reserve and 31k of the combination - which does not really support your idea that the latter is used just as a hack. How would you detect such a hack then? In my opinion

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Koć
Thanks for the comments! They help me to get the bigger picture, which is not visible from just the tag names and definitions. TL;DR summary: I think that for now we should render all the existing tags with osm-carto, but make some of them appear earlier to encourage smooth migration to a more

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.12.2017 o 11:06, Christoph Hormann pisze: As said before: *do not mix rendering and tagging discussions*. I don't fully understand what you're suggesting (it's a long, complex sentence), but I feel you're  accusing me of something bad. Please note that the first point about general

[OSM-talk] Tagging/rendering relations

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.12.2017 o 18:43, Yves pisze: I do agree with Christoph here, tag depreciation should be discussed outside of the scope of osm-carto. It would be interesting for me to hear the exact reasons why do you think that? I would also like to know how do you think should we talk about the

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging/rendering relations

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.12.2017 o 19:31, Yves pisze: Because the discussion can be heated by the fear of seeing something 'disappear' from the map overnight. Well, the fear might be there, but the discussion was already here, it was not too heated, and that was just my conclusions after the discussion. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-12-07 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 07.12.2017 o 17:04, Greg Troxel pisze: I also object to deprecating leisure=nature_reserve. The protected_area scheme is too complicated for most people to deal with fully and leisure=nature_reserve has proved itself to be useful. This way or another it seems to me that leisure= key is

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas

2017-12-11 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 11.12.2017 o 14:43, Greg Troxel pisze: The property that is denoted by leisure=nature_reserve is mostly separate from the protected area information. It means that humans are able to hike in a land wich is in a natural state. In the meantime I've made a reality check with Poland lately

[OSM-talk] OSM website stats on the end of the year

2017-12-11 Thread Daniel Koć
I've just visited Alexa free stats on OSM website and here are some interesting facts: - Current Global Rank for OSM: 6988 (down 833) - Most visitors come from USA, Germany, China, UK and France (in both USA and China rank number is lower than global average, but probably much more people liv

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM website stats on the end of the year

2017-12-13 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 13.12.2017 o 09:29, Tom Pfeifer pisze: What measurements are these estimates based on? AFAIK they collect the data through the browser toolbar: https://www.alexa.com/toolbar -- "My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple] _

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.6.0

2017-12-17 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 17.12.2017 o 23:00, nwastra pisze: “- Do not render small national parks and nature reserves” At what zoom levels are they not rendered? Surely these are still rendered when zoomed in close on the map and I would consider a higher priority of importance that most other stuff that is re

[OSM-talk] Maritime borders rules

2017-12-17 Thread Daniel Koć
About a month ago maritime border of Peru has been changed from commonly used Territorial Seas to Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ): http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53890344 The problem has been reported, but it's still not clear if some global rules should be applied here: https://help.o

[OSM-talk] Standard map style contributions

2017-12-28 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, We have a lot of tickets waiting for solving in osm-carto (almost 400) and I'm interested how could we do it effectively. It's not realistic to expect that the core team would be able to catch up and that's why we took some care to help other people to contribute. Most important thing wa

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard map style contributions

2017-12-28 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 28.12.2017 o 14:04, James pisze: not everyone knows lua scripting might be one of the major herdles Is this what keeps you away from the code or there are some other obstacles? I'm most interested in hearing personal reasons, whatever they might be. Fortunately lua scripting is not n

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard map style contributions

2017-12-28 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 28.12.2017 o 14:34, James pisze: Although the rest seems like CSS or a variation there of the project is big and they may not grasp everything. Proper documentation for me is a major factor, if the project doesnt have documentation(developement not user guides or at least well placed co

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard map style contributions

2017-12-29 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 29.12.2017 o 03:41, Andy Townsend pisze: Speaking entirely personally, the main issue is just selfishness/laziness. I wouldn't name it "laziness" or "selfishness", just lack of motivation and I understand why - you have enough motivation to develop your own fork, so it seems to me that

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapzen is shutting down

2018-01-07 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 08.01.2018 o 00:22, Steve Coast pisze: A few of us are working on this - https://www.maphaven.com Map services with the profits going to open mapping. That sounds very intriguing for me, but the page is just vague at the moment. Could you provide us some more details? -- "My method

[OSM-talk] Brazil and Bolivia labels missing

2018-01-13 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I've just found that Brazil and Bolivia labels are missing on the main page. They were visible not so long ago: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OpenStreetMap_homepage_2017_en.png so most probably this is a tagging problem, not an osm-carto problem. -- "My method is uncertain/ It

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.7.0

2018-01-26 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.7.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Adding icon for tourism=apartment

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.7.1

2018-01-31 Thread Daniel Koć
|Dear all, Today, v4.7.1 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. This is a bugfix release, the only change is a co

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.8.0

2018-02-23 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.8.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Made military area rendering l

[OSM-talk] Donation from the Pineapple Fund

2018-03-04 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, You might remember news about big bitcoin donation from the Pineapple Fund: https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/01/11/donation-from-pineapple-fund/ I wonder how OSMF plans to use it? This is substantial amount of money, however I'm aware that it's just a one time shot and not a big change

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard map style contributions

2018-03-06 Thread Daniel Koć
11:45, Daniel Koć pisze: Hi, We have a lot of tickets waiting for solving in osm-carto (almost 400) and I'm interested how could we do it effectively. It's not realistic to expect that the core team would be able to catch up and that's why we took some care to help other people

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.9.0

2018-03-23 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.9.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include Major changes - A bug where closed

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.9.0

2018-03-23 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 23.03.2018 o 15:43, Stefan Keller pisze: > How can I help implementing rendering of castles (forts, ruins, > manors, palaces)? > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/744 Thanks! Well, I'm not sure - it's mostly about weighting the problems and picking the proper solut

[OSM-talk] Maps rendering forum

2018-04-04 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, I think we need a place to discuss maps rendering using OSM data, so I created special subforum to talk about it: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=100 -- "My method is uncertain/ It's a mess but it's working" [F. Apple] ___ talk

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.10.0

2018-04-20 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.10.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Adding rendering for historic=cas

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 11:51, Mateusz Konieczny pisze: > It is not handling > - regions with more than one widespread language > - features that have name tag in an atypical language In my opinion there's no single solution for atypical cases, yet it's sane to start with defaults. It can be used on m

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 13:53, Marc Gemis pisze: > Do you now assume that names in region B outside city C have a > namehr;nameit in the name tag? Yes, unless stated otherwise for cities E, F and G. To be clear: I assume only that if they name:hr=* and name:it=*, both are official, but that doesn't m

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 14:49, Marc Gemis pisze: > The name for the country in the name tag is " België / Belgique / Belgien" (*) > The name for any street in Brussels is either " - " > or " - " with the majority mapped with French in > front. > > The names never use a semi-colon. Without looking at na

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 14:32, Philip Barnes pisze: > If a place in England should we assume its name is in English? > > Name:en=Llanymynech would be a very odd assumption. As would Hengoed > or Rhydycroesau. > > This cannot be automatic, it needs mappers with local knowledge. That's pretty sane /gene

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 15:36, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: > > 2018-04-26 14:16 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć <mailto:daniel@ko%C4%87.pl>>: > > > Isn't it like this: > > Country Belgium - official_language=de;fr;nl > Region Brussels-Capital - of

[OSM-talk] Wikimedia Maps deployment

2018-05-02 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, Wikimedia are currently working hard on deploying maps based on OSM data - some basic information and links are here: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=62086 Now they started including them on the project Wikis: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps#Wikimedia_projects_that_have

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.05.2018 o 22:49, Joe Matazzoni pisze: > Please post your thoughts and ideas to the project talk page [4]. > Thanks for your help, and for providing the valuable service you do to > Wikimedia contributors and readers around the world.  I will try to put my thoughts there. However I also

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.05.2018 o 23:20, Yuri Astrakhan pisze: > I have posted in another threads about this, proposing > "default_language" tag to be added to the admin (or smaller) regions > to solve this.  I like this proposition. I was talking about "official_language", but they might be added where they a

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