[OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
tl;dr It may be not OK to import data from Wikidata despite that this database is CC0 (adding wikipedia/wikidata tags is still OK, but this connection is mostly useless for adding data into OSM). It may be necessary to revert some imports of data from Wikidata Note: it is likely that some

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 10:28:29 -0800 Mark Wagner wrote: > Not an issue. The CC0 license explicitly calls out database rights as > being released to the greatest extent possible. From the text of the > license (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode) What about cases where: 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Dispute on wiki page Collaboration_with_Wikipedia

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 13:45:25 +0100 Michael Reichert wrote: > I think that the question if someone may copy > data from OSM/Wikipedia/Wikidata to Wikipedia or Wikidata should not > be discussed in the OSM wiki in full length. Especially Wikidata to Wikipedia and Wikipedia to Wikidata imports are c

Re: [OSM-talk] CC0 in UK, CC0 in USA, sui generis database right and Wikidata

2017-11-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 21:29:21 +0100 Simon Poole wrote: > Back to WD: as pointed about above, the issue is not that the WMF is > claiming that WD can be used on CC0 terms when it couldn't be, aka > laundering the data (quite to the contrary), it is that because  we > would need to vet the provenance

Re: [OSM-talk] Hillshading on OSM maps

2017-11-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
For examples of places where OSM seems to have higher quality than relief see sloped lakes in Tatra mountains at http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/49.2044/20.0272&layers=C On 7 Nov 2017 8:48 a.m., "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 7. Nov 2017, at 03:22, Daniel Koć

Re: [OSM-talk] Effecting change in OpenStreetMap

2017-11-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:47:26 + Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: > Many words, long story short: technology-wise, OpenStreetMap core is > dead. This sounds bad and it is hard for me to discuss other examples, but in > "I'm worried about this. I have not performed a technical review." as

Re: [OSM-talk] finding overlapping buildings

2017-11-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 00:49:10 + Dave F wrote: > Note: Some building are drawn on top of eachother to produce 3D > rendering of multi-storey buildings. It is still tagging that should be fixed (building:part is typical solution, in rare cases like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Ankar

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
> This policy applies as soon as someone is > directed by a third party exactly what and how to contribute to > OpenStreetMap. Maybe it would be a good idea to exclude small scale guided editing. For example my friend asked me to show how OSM worked. I showed him/her a map and asked to find some

Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?

2017-12-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:59:26 -0700 Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all,  > > For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good > understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for > you that would make it better?  > > I am asking because I am working on a new major rele

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing in Front Range of US State of Colorado

2017-12-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
During deleting of destroyed features I typically leave outlines with notes reminding that aerial image is outdated and delete such historic days after aerial images are updated. Have you tried doing something like that? On 16 Dec 2017 4:37 p.m., "Mike Thompson" wrote: Hello, If you are armcha

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tagging validation lib

2017-12-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
> conform validation to wiki Sometimes wiki is wrong and should be changed. Note also that authors of different tools have different opinions how and what should be reported as errors. On 24 Dec 2017 11:12 a.m., "François Lacombe" wrote: Hi Here is an idea I got regarding tagging validation

[OSM-talk] massgis:MANAGR_ABR=M173BS, massgis:DEED_ACRES=0.00000000 and other useless(?) tags

2017-12-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I encountered https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29690455 that is obviously result of some unfinished import - somebody dumped random database fields into OSM such as massgis:DEED_ACRES=0. massgis:MANAGR_ABR=M173BS and many other tags such as: massgis:ARTICLE97 massgis:ASSESS_ACR massgis:

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard map style contributions

2017-12-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
If somebody tried contributing and missing documentation was what stopped him/her - what was missing? On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 08:34:34 -0500 James wrote: > Although the rest seems like CSS or a variation there of the project > is big and they may not grasp everything. Proper documentation for me > i

Re: [OSM-talk] Advertising on OSM

2018-01-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:55:56 +0400 (GMT+04:00) "Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com" wrote: > I can't seem to find anything on the OSM Wiki. Have you checked https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:description ? It has "Never use description=* to add advertising messages." __

Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically generated changeset discussion comments by OSMCha

2018-01-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:07:11 +0100 Michael Reichert wrote: > If third-party tools start to post comments to lots > of changesets automatically In that case that would be clearly wrong. But if I understand > From now on, when we review a changeset in OSMCha, a comment will be > posted in the

[OSM-talk] how one may detect notes closed by people who made less than 10 edits on this account?

2018-01-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is there some existing tool to query note activity (especially closing) by user with low edit count? I noticed a vandal creating multiple accounts*, all with 0 edits and closing random valid notes (or at least closing without explanation notes that seemed to not be clearly invalid). I undid it

Re: [OSM-talk] Limitations on mapping private information

2018-02-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:50:32 +0100 Tom Pfeifer wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_private_information What I miss is some generic "do not map completely private data". For example, while mapping amenity=place_of_worship in Europe is OK, I would expect it to be h

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:53:07 + Dave F wrote: > I see no requirement for a separate segment: Can you give example of roundabount (preferably, with good aerial images) where such requirement makes mapping problematic? ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:23:39 +0100 Johan C wrote: > The present tagging (used since 2005 or so, and all around the globe) > is fine. I agree, I see no problem with this recommendation. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] Roundabouts - why is a separate segment required?

2018-02-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:52:19 +0100 Tom Pfeifer wrote: > May we ask you to undo your revert in CS 56352276? You still have not > explained how the two node solution "fudge OSM". Especially, as from looking at aerial images it is clear that these roads are not entering/leaving at the same point.

Re: [OSM-talk] Oracle is changing Java's license how will it affect JOSM?

2018-04-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:26:13 -0400 john whelan wrote: > Someone who worked at Oracle has mentioned Oracle would like to be > out of JAVA by 2020 and that is the date for individual free licenses > to expire. Source? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:25:12 +0200 Tobias Knerr wrote: > Comparing the mapping styles solely based on ease of mapping would > only make sense if separate ways were able to express the same > information contained in sidewalk tags. Note that some information may not be expressed (or extremely har

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:27:02 +0200 Rory McCann wrote: > Thoughts? Feedback? Anything I'm missing? Note that defining tag with proposal on wiki will not change existing data or immediately change how people understand tag. I was not investigating the situation in this case but have you considere

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I fully agree that it is a problem. I encountered nasty issues after implementing name rendering fallback with following language order (order is simplified for this example): name:pl, name:en, name:de, name Intention was to render English name in China/Korea rather than unreadable (for typical p

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:16:08 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > I.e. we'd have tons of "name:xx" tags > plus one tag called e.g. "language=en", that would then mean: The > default name to use is the name:en name. > > I think this would be more elegant than the duplication that you are > suggesting. T

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
24. Apr 2018 20:03 by md...@xs4all.nl : > I think you're opening another can of worms here. How would this work out for > me (in Dutch) where I don't want to see places in latin script translated? I > do not want to see Londen or Berlijn or Brunswijk, I also don't want t

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. Apr 2018 07:01 by marc.ge...@gmail.com : > I wonder why those arguments always pop up when we talk about separate > sidewalks and not when we talk about separate cycleways. > AFAIK it is common practice to map cycleways as separate ways in OSM > as soon as there i

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
24. Apr 2018 21:29 by rich...@systemed.net : > If I read Frederik's proposal right, the language=en tag would be placed on > the object with the name tag > Interesting idea, I like it. Is there already a page on the OSM wiki describing this proposal? __

Re: [OSM-talk] New wave of Pokémon Go mappers – check the parks

2018-04-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. Apr 2018 06:17 by roland.olbri...@gmx.de : > Thus, I suggest the query > here is overpass link with it: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/yee (navigate to your area, click "run" and wait) At least in my region detecting parks

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It is not handling - regions with more than one widespread language - features that have name tag in an atypical language 26. Apr 2018 10:04 by jan...@gmail.com : > > > sri, 25. tra 2018. u 08:51 Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski <> m...@komzpa.net >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. May 2018 07:36 by md...@xs4all.nl : > On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote: >> No fallback is currently defined for Polish. We’ll be happy to >> change that if you can show community consensus. > > Community consensus? You mean a bunch of people who decide for th

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3. May 2018 22:49 by jmatazz...@wikimedia.org : > I’d very much like to get your suggestions for a short list of Help links on > OSM—pages you think a user coming in to add multilingual names would find > useful. Also please send your thoughts about any informat

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
preference.  The exact same code (it's all in JavaScript) can >> be used to decide the labeling. Caching would only improve, because instead >> of caching multiple raster tiles, it would only cache a single vector tile.  >>  Mapbox.gl or open layers can both do this fairly eff

[OSM-talk] Using Wikipedia to add names in other languages

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
For example: mapper encounters https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/244082386#map=18/36.62214/101.77352 and wants to add missing name:pl (s)he opens linked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xining

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Wikipedia to add names in other languages

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5. May 2018 14:55 by dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > sent from a phone > >> On 5. May 2018, at 14:28, Mateusz Konieczny <>> matkoni...@tutanota.com >> <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>>> > wrote: >> >> (and

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Wikipedia to add names in other languages

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5. May 2018 16:14 by dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > On 5. May 2018, at 15:39, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> > wrote: > > >> >> sui generis database right is not existin

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Wikipedia to add names in other languages

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5. May 2018 16:14 by dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > On 5. May 2018, at 15:39, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> > wrote: > > >> >> How copying location data[1] from Goo

Re: [OSM-talk] highway="corridor" tag

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5. May 2018 18:07 by winw...@gmail.com : > my code assumes unknown highway tags are > vehicle-routable (and filters out footpaths, stairs, etc). > that is (1) not relevant (2) a really bad assumption - making highway=cyclewa vehicle-routable is a surprising design,

Re: [OSM-talk] highway="corridor" tag

2018-05-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5. May 2018 21:38 by winw...@gmail.com : > So back to my original questions: The only way to find a new valid > tag value is to wait for a user to complain about a funky or lack of > calculated route? > Yes, but that is extremely unlikely to happen. List of values f

[OSM-talk] Android program with a custom map style

2018-05-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I am looking for an Android application that has bicycle-focused map style available offline. I am looking for features like - ability to distinguish road based on surface (=sand =dirt =asphalt should be easy to distinguish) - oneway arrows displayed based also on oneway:bicycle, cycleway=oppos

[OSM-talk] what can be mapped - temporary, pernament and reoccuring

2018-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Some features are always present and are indisputable mappable - like buildings. Some features are seasonal but are easily verifiable all the time as they merely change the form. For example an intermittent river - riverbed is always there, nearly always with obvious indications that water flowed

Re: [OSM-talk] what can be mapped - temporary, pernament and reoccuring

2018-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. May 2018 20:17 by frede...@remote.org : > How infrequent does the flea market have to happen in order for it to > become an un-mappable "event"? Take a Christmas market for example, > which is like a flea market just less frequent... or is it an event already? >

Re: [OSM-talk] what can be mapped - temporary, pernament and reoccuring

2018-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. May 2018 20:17 by frede...@remote.org : > I think the key here is, like so often, verifiability. Things in OSM > must be verifiable, and I'd like to add "... with reasonable effort by > an average person". If something is verifiable only with expensive > special ge

Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

2018-05-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
27. May 2018 12:47 by gthapa.w...@gmail.com : > collected every year I think that better solution would be to keep it in the external database, and create/use something to link them. For example external database may contain locations of school or this data

Re: [OSM-talk] Redactions in North Korea

2018-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2 Jun 2018, 13:11 by frede...@remote.org: > This particularly applies to information > sourced from Wikipedia/Wikidata - please do not use them as sources. > >From what I checked this two projects are generally unusuable as data sources >due to licensing issues. __

Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

2018-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
il.com: > Thank you for the replies. Is there an example of how this has been done > elsewhere? I think dumping into wikidata would be a good option and a > solution we will be pursuing. > > > > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com

[OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I am looking for an application for Android displaying amenity=drinking_water locations with available offline map - I am frequently using it to avoid buying plastic bottles just to almost immediately throw it out. Any simple open source map displaying locations of some objects would also be g

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edit for bus lines in Paris area

2018-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
"Summary: Adding values for two existing tags to bus stops"  example edit changes three tags. The same in the proposed changes etc comment. "This provides a link between the OSM node and the STIF stop_id." And how this match is obtained? Is source code of program generating matches and making

Re: [OSM-talk] finding drinking water with an Android app

2018-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. Jun 2018 11:04 by marc.ge...@gmail.com : > The wiki page of amenity=drinking_water lists 2 apps: > [1] > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bplaced.tapwater > >From what I see O

[OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving building=building to building=yes

2018-06-08 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
building=yes is a standard way to mark building without specifying its type. Editors wishing to specify building type would (directly or indirectly, for example using StreetComplete) look through buildings tagged as building=yes. building=building is an unexpected way to mark building without spec

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving building=building to building=yes

2018-06-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
8. Jun 2018 22:41 by james2...@gmail.com : > if building=building is not or was not a  wiki approved way of tagging, this > seems more on the side of linting osm tags than it does a "mass blind > edit"/import Note that just because tags are not described on wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving building=building to building=yes

2018-06-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
9. Jun 2018 11:36 by osm...@michreichert.de : > Did you investigate who used that tag and maybe why? Was it a bot, a > editor preset, an import or manual user input? I would like to have this > question answered before a mechanical edit. Are you aware about any

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving building=building to building=yes

2018-06-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
9. Jun 2018 12:17 by matkoni...@tutanota.com : > > But I would prefer to avoid spending time on creating > > > tool that already exists. > I found  http://taghistory.raifer.tech that reveals that this tag is target of repe

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving building=building to building=yes

2018-06-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
9. Jun 2018 12:54 by osm...@michreichert.de : > I did not expect you to write such a tool. It would be ok to pick some > random samples and look into their history. So, is analysis by  Christoph Hormann sufficient for this proposed edit?

[OSM-talk] overpass rurbo for beginners

2018-06-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is there some Overpass Turbo tutorial assuming no programming or OSM knowledge? I am planning to write one, I failed to find any description like this. I am asking to avoid duplication of existing resources. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [OSM-talk] overpass turbo for beginners

2018-06-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
19. Jun 2018 21:46 by mmd@gmail.com : > Take a look at the following presentation by Boris Mericskay, which is > one of the best and most up to date presentations on Overpass API and > overpass turbo I'm aware of (yes, some 0.7.55 features are missing, but > that's

Re: [OSM-talk] Golan Heights

2018-06-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf is an useful resource. 20. Jun 2018 15:40 by ma...@anche.no : > good day list! > > https://www.monde-diplomatiq

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
29. Jun 2018 17:27 by carlos.cam...@gmail.com : > OSM does not take "any ethical stance and display the world as it is." > It is for that reason that I want to raise that particular topic to OSM > community: > Is that true? yes   > and if so, should it be

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

2018-06-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
29. Jun 2018 13:18 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk : > On 29 June 2018 at 11:38, Max <> abonneme...@revolwear.com > > > wrote: > >> "Add the missing names to OSM in your language." >> >> That is inflating the OSM database with so

[OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
fixme tag is a standard way to mark fixmes. Editors wishing to finish mapping in their area would (directly or indirectly, for example using JOSM) look through objects tagged with fixme tags. FIXME tag is an unexpected way to mark fixmes, retagging this duplicate to fixme key would improve tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2. Lipiec 2018 19:49 od james2...@gmail.com : > are there any overlap with FIXME and fixme as in an object tagged with both? Yes. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/A0y As described in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_E

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3. Lipiec 2018 01:23 od osm...@michreichert.de : > > What's the benefit in this mechanical edit? It just sets the > last_modified attribute to a recent date and data consumers, mappers and > QA tools get the impression that the object is not old. > - removes co

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3. Lipiec 2018 10:36 od md...@xs4all.nl : > What will prevent users from adding FIXME tags in the future? Nothing, users may add any tags. It is impossible to change that by edits.   > What happens to the tools that read FIXME tags in the meanwhile? Tools that p

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3. Lipiec 2018 11:38 od md...@xs4all.nl <mailto:md...@xs4all.nl>: > On 2018-07-03 11:23, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> 3. Lipiec 2018 10:36 od >> md...@xs4all.nl <mailto:md...@xs4all.nl>>> : >> >>> What will prevent users from adding FIXME tags in t

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
eaning. > On 03.07.2018 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> - removes common duplicate confusing people > > I'm getting the impression that we cannot find agreements on more important > confusions (grass and forest landuse/landcover for example), so we start > looking at such d

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3. Lipiec 2018 21:53 od f...@zz.de : > IMHO fixing problems in the data always start with fixing the cause > why they are added in the first place. Otherwise you fix the current > state but errors start beeing added the minute you think you are "done". > That is one of moti

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. Lipiec 2018 08:28 od f...@zz.de : > I have myself always used > note=fixme ... > I would encourage you to use fixme tag (or FIXME tag if you really want) - note tag is rather about some nonobvious info, rather that statement that data is wrong and requires fixing. __

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. Lipiec 2018 08:28 od f...@zz.de <mailto:f...@zz.de>: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 11:17:29PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> 3. Lipiec 2018 21:53 od >> f...@zz.de <mailto:f...@zz.de>>> <>> >> mailto:f...@zz.de <mailto:mailto:f...@zz.d

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

2018-07-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. Lipiec 2018 10:16 od j...@liotier.org : > I am concerned about the cases where a building does exist in reality, the > shape is less than ten meters from its position, some of the shape > overlaps the building's position on the imagery and some of the shape > resembles

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed mechanical edit - moving FIXME=* to fixme=*

2018-07-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. Lipiec 2018 08:38 od f...@zz.de : > Its a big spaghetti mess > and data consumers take whats documented and ignore misspellings. Users > have to fix it with discipline noticing the errors in data consumers > products. Thats been OSM for more than a decade. It turned software

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #417 2018-07-10-2018-07-16

2018-07-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
it looks normal for me, but it is unclear what you mean by"Looks like it's been hacked or something" 21. Lipiec 2018 11:12 od o...@hjart.dk : > What happened to the website? Looks like it's been hacked or something. > > lørdag den 21. juli 2018 10.54.31 CEST skrev weeklyt

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

2018-08-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
31. Lipiec 2018 23:49 od frede...@remote.org : > an interesting read: "The social construction of technological stasis: > The stagnating data structure in OpenStreetMap." > It is hard for me to treat seriously something that has "Figure 6. Code revisions per mo

Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

2018-08-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
1. Sierpień 2018 21:27 od matkoni...@tutanota.com : > 31. Lipiec 2018 23:49 od > frede...@remote.org > > : > > >> an interesting read: "The social construction of technological stasis: >> The stagnating data structure in OpenStreet

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Part of Wikibase that are an attempt to create yet another preset and validator ruleset are probably not going to be used by anybody. Note that so far every editor creates its own (iD, Vespucci, JOSM...). 23. Sep 2018 14:05 by osm...@michreichert.de : > TBH, if

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26. Sep 2018 21:18 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com : > In the last week, we had 18 users making nearly 900 changes For someone maintaining an editor it is a drawback, not benefit. On wiki if someone decides to mark (for example) landuse=forest as wrong, evil and d

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

2018-09-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28. Sep 2018 08:18 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com>: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:50 AM Mateusz Konieczny <  > > matkoni...@tutanota.com <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>>  > > wrote: > >> >> Main point of separate prese

Re: [OSM-talk] OEM Wiki is still slow to load

2018-10-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3. Oct 2018 13:09 by davefoxfa...@btinternet.com : > Hi > > For the couple of weeks OSM Wiki pages are quite slow to load. Is it > coincidence it was at the same time OSM Wikibase was implemented? > > Are there any plans to rectify the situation?   I  notic

Re: [OSM-talk] LinuxFoundation Energy Summit 2018 in Edinburgh (too few OSM inside)

2018-10-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
5. Oct 2018 00:02 by fl.infosrese...@gmail.com : > Following my current professional experience, it becomes more and more usual > to clean-up proprietary and inside dataset with OSM data (my job, sometimes > on power infrastructure)   I wonder whatever they

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

2018-10-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
7. Oct 2018 23:07 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com : > JAVA has a number of problems.  Can you give examples that would justify a massive effort of reimplementing JOSM?   > Many corporations ban its installation citing security issues which restricts > the machines

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

2018-10-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
8. Oct 2018 16:33 by f...@zz.de : > Over the last 2-3 years i am getting my trouble with josm because it > is no longer an offline editor. Everyone who has tried starting josm > on Edge type connections (Yes - i do have DSL Light with 384KBit/s at > home) knows what i am talkin

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it time to redevelop JOSM?

2018-10-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
8. Oct 2018 01:01 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com : > There is probably an element of religion here, the existing developers know > JAVA and their existing development environment and are happy with it.  It > would be a lot of work and there would be a lot of testing to d

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap usage in scientific studies

2018-10-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Is there already some OSM Wiki page describing how OSM data was used in research? I wanted to documents some cases of using OSM data in scientific studies on OSM Wiki.But it seems that I am the first person that started doing this. I am looking both for - page itself- pages where it would be link

Re: [OSM-talk] Please help with name-suggestion-index project!

2018-10-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
To clarify why it is useful: https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index#name-suggestion-index hasindex of common brand. It allows for easier editing for editors using this data. For example in Vespucciwhen I encounter s

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
21. Oct 2018 15:12 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > Therefore we can all be satisfied there is clear guidance from the board how > to deal with this: the local situation determines how we map, and the OSMF is > explicit here: “National borders are particularly sen

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
21. Oct 2018 23:19 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com : > I think a country relation should describe how the specific country think of > its borders. So if two countries claim the same territory, those two > relations will overlap. That is absurd and conflict with OS

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Can you summarize parts of this article (5k+ words, in "long read" section) that are relevant totagging of Russian and Ukrainian border in the Crimea? 22. Oct 2018 00:44 by oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch : > > Hi Martin, > > Before continui

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22. Oct 2018 16:17 by dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > Am Mo., 22. Okt. 2018 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Yuri Astrakhan <> > yuriastrak...@gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com>> >: > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:22 AM Mateusz Ko

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22. Oct 2018 15:51 by yuriastrak...@gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com>: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:22 AM Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> > wrote: > >> >>> I think a country r

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22. Oct 2018 16:59 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl <mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>: > > On 2018-10-22 16:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> >> I strongly disagree, we map reality. >> > > There is no one true reality, only perceptions. > There is both a tru

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-10-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
23. Oct 2018 08:57 by frede...@remote.org : > It would however be interesting to develop a tagging scheme that lets us > not only record "this border is disputed" but also "this is the extent > of country X according to country Y", which we currently don't have. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile Application for optimizing OSM ski area data

2018-10-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26. Oct 2018 14:22 by v...@live.at : > > I am planning to develop an mobile app to optimize ski area data provided by > OSM. The user should be able to use the app for locating him- or herself in a > ski area and have a look at all the different slopes and lifts and all the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Short ways added to substitute barriers

2018-10-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
29. Oct 2018 04:08 by jem.maw...@gmail.com : > > Re: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/634085262 > > and several more like it in > the area. > It seems that new, short ways have been introduced to replicate the purpose

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Short ways added to substitute barriers

2018-10-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
29. Oct 2018 11:43 by davefoxfa...@btinternet.com : >  It's the gate which is the restriction. The problem is the gate > doesn't have any subtags to indicate access. > I am using access=*, vehicle=*, bicycle=*, foot=*, opening_hours=*  At least

Re: [OSM-talk] How to get an overview of multiple gpx on OSM map?

2018-11-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I would open JOSM and open GPX file(s). JOSM is primarily an editor, but I use it alsofor visualisation of GPX files. https://josm.openstreetmap.de QGIS is another tool - typically used for processing of data, but showing GPX tracks is alsoa thing that it can d

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
16. Nov 2018 17:06 by sandor...@gmail.com : > > When multiple errors appear in the same location the question is what to do? > The same as with a single error - fix the problem (how it should be done depends on situation) or wait until it is done by someone el

Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd party API integration

2018-11-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
17. Nov 2018 17:01 by sebastian.kuer...@fu-berlin.de : > I'm just looking for more examples to get an idea of what people are > doing already to connect OSM with other services, especially via APIs. I have a script that takes area and lists the most int

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle.travel's OSM bike routing now covers Scandinavia and Eastern Europe

2018-11-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Great news! I remember checking it some time ago and now it is available! >From quick checks it seems to give really good results in my town. Thanks for making it available! 19. Nov 2018 13:41 by rich...@systemed.net : > Hi all, > > I've just added coverage of Scan

Re: [OSM-talk] Plus code grid service

2018-11-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It is still not clear to me why new way of writing latitude and longitude is supposed to be interesting. 19. Nov 2018 16:43 by drinc...@google.com : > We're really excited to launch a free plus code grid service at > > https://grid.plus.codes

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

2018-11-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
20. Nov 2018 07:15 by tomasstrau...@gmail.com : > Hello > > I think this needs more attention and should not be silently buried > in archives. > > OSMF/DWG has sided with Moscow to recognise illegal annexation of > Ukraine's territory - Crimea. > > > https:/

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

2018-11-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
21. Nov 2018 15:17 by tomasstrau...@gmail.com : > But I see no objective reasons why this should be the case in the > data. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule   >

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