Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 13:26:00, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> - set Windows to High Contrast Black colour scheme, and fix all >> elements that retain light background (status bar and tabs in main >> window, some icons in status bar of message editor) > Noted, thanks! Another

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread mse
Hello Stefan, STvT> - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please STvT> feel free to name your favourite ones), make some minor additions and STvT> facelifting, then release a new v9.x.x update. welcome back! I appreciate your work I am happy to see future developments. In

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Andrew, Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 9:15:58 AM, you wrote: > ...Isn't anyone concerned about the concept of "rich HTML" messages > here? Remote content, embedded 1px images and JS... > Good HTML parser - simple HTML parser. Yes, however, my preference would be that messages by default open

Re[3]: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Paul, Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 11:35:45 PM, you wrote: > I have been opening html messages with a browser since v. 1.1. Nothing > like using the right tool for the job. This policy has never failed me > yet... ...Isn't anyone concerned about the concept of "rich HTML" messages here?

Re[2]: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Paul Van Noord
6/10/2020 10:05 AM On 6/10/2020 The Bat Beta wrote: >> Except... not even Microsoft use the IE engine any more. Edge browser >> on Win10 uses Chrome. I am not enthusiastic about keeping ties to an >> API that the maker no longer uses. >> The TB native rendering engine doesn't do a great

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:59:22 +0100 GMT (10-Jun-20, 15:59 +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: > On 10 June 2020 at 09:36 Jernej Simončič wrote and made these points JS>> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 23:48:18, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >>> - after that, we're going to remove

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Jernej, > Welcome back :) Thank you! :) > - set Windows to High Contrast Black colour scheme, and fix all > elements that retain light background (status bar and tabs in main > window, some icons in status bar of message editor) Noted, thanks! > Oh great, another copy of Chromium

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Jernej, Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 1:23:45 PM, you wrote: > IE engine should suffice for e-mails - pretty much all newsletters are > designed with Outlook in mind, and that uses Word to render HTML > (which is even more limited than IE). Outlook has its own rendering engine, it's quite

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 10:59:22, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > Except... not even Microsoft use the IE engine any more. Edge browser > on Win10 uses Chrome. I am not enthusiastic about keeping ties to an > API that the maker no longer uses. IE engine should suffice for e-mails - pretty much

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello NetVicious, > Welcome back Stefan. Thank you! > - Allow translating the new customizer. > > - Finish it. I loved when I can edit all the menus of TB! and leave > only things what I use and hide other ones. We'll need to review both of these in light of dropping the DevExpress

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Johannes, OK, I see. Thank you for explanation! > RitLabs publishes, as many others, a DMARC setting for their domain > (v=DMARC1; p=reject; rua=mailto:dmarc-...@ritlabs.com; ruf=mailto: > dmarc-...@ritlabs.com). This mailing list thus cannot generate a mail from > you @ritlabs.com without

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Marck Pearlstone
On 10 June 2020 at 09:36 Jernej Simončič wrote and made these points JS> On Monday, June 1, 2020, 23:48:18, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: >> - after that, we're going to remove the outdated built-in HTML >> renderer and IE-based system's one and use Chromium-based renderer ... JS> Oh

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Monday, June 1, 2020, 23:48:18, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > I beg your pardon for keeping you waiting for so long. The deal on > Ritlabs was a bit unexpected by me and I could not believe in it > completely until the last Monday when I received a state certificate > of ownership.

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-09 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 1 jun. 2020 at 23:48, it seems you wrote: > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones), make some minor additions and > facelifting, then release a new v9.x.x update. Welcome back Stefan. My votes go to: - Allow

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-09 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Stefan, Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 08:19 Uhr schrieb Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA < tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com>: > Hmmm. Just noticed the difference between sending messages to TBBETA from > different accounts. In the Sent folders, they look the same, but messages > sent from the ritlabs.com

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-09 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Stefan, > Yes, I'm pretty sure - yesterday, I ran into a similar problem on > my GMail accounts. Then, I changed the browser engine in the OAUTH > window and everything worked just fine :) Hmmm. Just noticed the difference between sending messages to TBBETA from different accounts. In the

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-09 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Daniel, S>> This one must be resolved when we start using Chromium engine. Both S>> rendering engines used in The Bat! now are outdated beyond repair, I'm afraid. > Thanks, but are you sure that the rendering engine is involved here? Yes, I'm pretty sure - yesterday, I ran into a similar

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-08 Thread Daniel van Rooijen
Hi Stefan, >> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum4/topic14455/ S> This one must be resolved when we start using Chromium engine. Both S> rendering engines used in The Bat! now are outdated beyond repair, I'm afraid. Thanks, but are you sure that the rendering engine is involved

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:47:57 +0300 GMT (08-Jun-20, 12:47 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Hello Daniel, >> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum4/topic14455/ > This one must be resolved when we start using Chromium engine. Both > rendering engines used in

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Daniel, > https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum4/topic14455/ This one must be resolved when we start using Chromium engine. Both rendering engines used in The Bat! now are outdated beyond repair, I'm afraid. Implementing Chromium engine is planned for the next Beta circle, i.e.

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread Ira
Title: Re: Kinda roadmap ;) Something is hinky in this version, This message from Daniel indicated it was from me.  I've put the header as it showed up in Mailwasher at the bottom. You can see that the reply shows "Hello Ira" even though it's not from me. I made the "From:&quo

Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread Daniel van Rooijen
Hi Stefan, good to see you return to the bat's nest and I'm glad that The Bat's development will get a new impulse. I've seen quite a few fixes of inconveniences and annoyances requested, but I think the pita that deserves priority is the one that, for quite a few people, causes The Bat to not

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones) I forgot to mention my favourite PITA: - Smartspace reading (Preferences/Message List) does not work with HTML messages. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Zarzalejo

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread Luca via TBBETA
MAU: > Hello Luca, > > > What about refurbishing the text editor? I've been coping with no undo/redo > > function for... how long? maybe 15 years? I'm fed up with it. > > There is certainly an Undo action in the Edit menu (or Ctrl+Z), and > you may try Ctrl+Y for Redo, it does work many

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stuart, Sunday, June 7, 2020, 7:07:49 AM, you wrote: >> There is certainly an Undo action in the Edit menu (or Ctrl+Z), and >> you may try Ctrl+Y for Redo, it does work many times. > You can even add it as an icon in the Edit Mail Message window. Oddly you can also add the Redo button,

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU, Sunday, June 7, 2020, 3:59:47 AM, you wrote: > There is certainly an Undo action in the Edit menu (or Ctrl+Z), and > you may try Ctrl+Y for Redo, it does work many times. You can even add it as an icon in the Edit Mail Message window. -- Best regards, Stuart

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-07 Thread MAU
Hello Luca, > What about refurbishing the text editor? I've been coping with no undo/redo > function for... how long? maybe 15 years? I'm fed up with it. There is certainly an Undo action in the Edit menu (or Ctrl+Z), and you may try Ctrl+Y for Redo, it does work many times. -- Best

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-06 Thread Gleason
Luca, > Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA: >> - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please >> feel free to name your favourite ones), > What about refurbishing the text editor? I've been coping with no undo/redo > function for... how long? maybe 15 years? I'm fed up with it.

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-06 Thread Luca via TBBETA
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA: > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones), What about refurbishing the text editor? I've been coping with no undo/redo function for... how long? maybe 15 years? I'm fed up with it. -- Windows 10

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-06 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, > The past is water under the bridge You are very right. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Zarzalejo (Madrid) - Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.1.18.6 (ALPHA) (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 18363 'Using TBBETA'

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-05 Thread MFPA
Hi On Monday 1 June 2020 at 10:48:18 PM, in , Stefan Tanurkov wrote:- > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top > PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones) 1. 0001239: You receive an openPGP-encrypted and signed email. You have a key to decrypt but not a key to

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-05 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello MAU, > Welcome back Stef. I just wish you and Max had not been so stubborn > four years ago and you had not left Ritlabs then. Thank you MAU! Let's look at the brigh side - I have learned a lot in those four years and I'm sure it'll help us to boost TB! development now. The past is

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-04 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, > I was missing you badly since I left Ritlabs office back in 2016 and > was dreaming to get back to The Bat! development all those years. Welcome back Stef. I just wish you and Max had not been so stubborn four years ago and you had not left Ritlabs then. -- Best regards,

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-04 Thread Joerg Schiermeier
Ira wrote: > when editing an email address in the To field The Bat assumes you're > entering it from scratch and erases what your doing. For example. I'm > replying to j...@somecompany.com and I jighlight "jane" and type > "bob". The Bat (...) Could you please tell us which number has your bug

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 09:10:32 +0100 GMT (04-Jun-20, 15:10 +0700 GMT), Marck Pearlstone wrote: > On 04 June 2020 at 04:27 Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points > ... Thomas Then your editor behaves different from mine. I use MicroEd, and you Thomas can see my Windows

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-04 Thread Marck Pearlstone
On 04 June 2020 at 04:27 Thomas Fernandez wrote and made these points ... Thomas>>> Then your editor behaves different from mine. I use MicroEd, and you Thomas>>> can see my Windows and TB version in my sig. How about yours? >> It's been broken since V9 was released. I've reported it before

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ira, On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:59:50 -0700 GMT (03-Jun-20, 23:59 +0700 GMT), Ira wrote: Thomas>> Then your editor behaves different from mine. I use MicroEd, and you Thomas>> can see my Windows and TB version in my sig. How about yours? > It's been broken since V9 was released. I've reported

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-03 Thread Ira
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 6:22:15 AM, you wrote: Thomas> Then your editor behaves different from mine. I use MicroEd, and you Thomas> can see my Windows and TB version in my sig. How about yours? Thomas> -- It's been broken since V9 was released. I've reported it before and it's

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ira, On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 00:23:44 -0700 GMT (03-Jun-20, 14:23 +0700 GMT), Ira wrote: > Hello Thomas, > Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 8:14:14 PM, you wrote: >>> when editing an email address in the To field The Bat assumes you're >>> entering it from scratch and erases what your doing. For

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-03 Thread Ira
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 8:14:14 PM, you wrote: >> when editing an email address in the To field The Bat assumes you're >> entering it from scratch and erases what your doing. For example. I'm >> replying to j...@somecompany.com and I jighlight "jane" and type >> "bob". The Bat

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ira, On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:03:47 -0700 GMT (03-Jun-20, 1:03 +0700 GMT), Ira wrote: > when editing an email address in the To field The Bat assumes you're > entering it from scratch and erases what your doing. For example. I'm > replying to j...@somecompany.com and I jighlight "jane" and

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Ira
Hello Stefan, Monday, June 1, 2020, 2:48:18 PM, you wrote: Stefan> - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please Stefan> feel free to name your favourite ones), make some minor additions and Stefan> facelifting, then release a new v9.x.x update. Glad to here there's hope

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Stefan, Welcome back! I'm sure we each have a thing or two that we would like to see working better. I'd add the address-book system to your list. Currently it is quite clunky and lacks the sophistication and reliability of the rest of TB. Looking forward to working with you again. --

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Curt at Down in the Country
Hello Stefan, This couldn't have come at a better time. My little corner of this dismal world has suddenly brightened up. A big "welcome back." Curt Sent from my office desktop by The Bat! Using The Bat! Version 9.1.18.6 (ALPHA) (64-bit) Windows 7 (32) with HughesNet Gen5 Satellite

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 7:18:18 AM, you wrote: > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones), make some minor additions and > facelifting, then release a new v9.x.x update. Seeing "RitLabs" and "roadmap" in one

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hello Stefan, > Now, it's time to reveal our development plans. At least, what I think > our current plan is. > So, here it goes: Looks like a plan, and "I love it when a plan comes together" John "Hannibal" Smith ;-) -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit,

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stefan, Thanks for the roadmap. Looking forward to things to come! -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.1.18.2 (BETA) (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 18362 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-02 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Hello Marek, > Hi Stef, > same for me, I missed You too :-) I'm already thinking of a way to add reactions in email. Before that, I'm doing it in writing - big smile and soulful hug :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov 'Using TBBETA'

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-01 Thread Stuart Pye
Hello Stefan, The Bat! is the best-kept secret in all of email-clientdom. All any of the few reviewers that comment ever mention is how secure it is. I think its best attribute is the sheer volume of mail that it can handle; the Sorting Office has no equal. Welcome back. Long live The Bat!

Re: Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hi Stef, same for me, I missed You too :-) -- S pozdravem, Marek Mikus mailto:marek.mi...@gmail.com 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Kinda roadmap ;)

2020-06-01 Thread Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA
Dear TBBETAers, I beg your pardon for keeping you waiting for so long. The deal on Ritlabs was a bit unexpected by me and I could not believe in it completely until the last Monday when I received a state certificate of ownership. Then, I started taking things over and there is a lot of them,