Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread F.P.
Hi, That may be a LOT deeper issue than the wrong icon when started from a shortcut. OK, we cant repair your car. We build it but we doesent have time to fix this problem because its much harder to find. We have to change wheel-screws primary on all the other cars. Not our problem if you cant

Re: Chinese language filtering bug

2011-04-30 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi, Could any one make a try and create rule with that Chinese expression (已读:) save it, close Filter and reopen to check if it changed to ??: at your system as well? -- Best regards, RS Friday, April 29, 2011, 11:53:32 PM, you wrote: Hi, It's my first post, so if there are any formal

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:17:35 -0400, Rick wrote: I am curious. You complain a lot about the Bat. No, I don't. Are you reporting the issues that bother you, I did report the rather outdated Help file more than 2 years ago, without any hope of RL taking care of it. Now, out of curiosity, I

Re: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List)

2011-04-30 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Guys, As I said before I'm new here but I watched the list for last two days and I have a feeling that there is rather a battle ground ... unfortunately one side only (haven't seen any feedback messages from The Bat! team). Frustrated user - I can understand them/us. I'm frustrated

Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello F.P., Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:44:20 AM, you wrote: FP OK, we cant repair your car. We build it but we doesent have time to FP fix this problem because its much harder to find. We have to change FP wheel-screws primary on all the other cars. Not our problem if you FP cant drive.

Mod: HTML use (was: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List))

2011-04-30 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo RS, On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:02:31 +0800GMT (30-4-2011, 12:02, where I live), you wrote: R As I said before I'm new here but I watched the list for last two R days and I have a feeling that there is rather a battle ground moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all

Mod: Top posting (was: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List))

2011-04-30 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo RS, On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:02:31 +0800GMT (30-4-2011, 12:02, where I live), you wrote: R Best regards, R RS R Saturday, April 30, 2011, 4:44:20 PM, you wrote: Hi, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:33:31 -0500, Dwight wrote: Some of their implementations are superior to anything else out there Yes, we've all heard that before. More than once... and it continues to be true. Yes. Over the years I've learned that Beta! Fanboy's reactions fall into 3 rather

Re: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List)

2011-04-30 Thread Marck Pearlstone
Dear Rs, @30-Apr-2011, 18:02 +0800 (30-Apr 11:02 here) RS (FEDARA) [R] in mid:1462547914.20110430180...@fedara.com said to F.P.: That may be a LOT deeper issue than the wrong icon when started from a shortcut. OK, we cant repair your car. We build it but we doesent have time to fix this

Re: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List)

2011-04-30 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:35:46 +0100, Marck wrote: One argument is that software with known bugs is never releasable. I even once held that view myself. As software and its sphere of use and influence ever expands, so this ideal goal slips ever further into the distance. 4) All software has bugs,

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Arjan, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 12:29:05 PM, you wrote: AdG Over the years I've learned that Beta! Fanboy's reactions fall into 3 AdG rather stereotypical categories: Let's conclude that part of this thread by adding that these reactions invariably are given in answer to postings made

Error TMailMessage released before its use. (was: Re: 5.0.9.7)

2011-04-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Friday, April 29, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.0.9.7 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5097.rar I am getting this error very often: --- The Bat! --- TMailMessage released before its

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:41:56 +0200, Mark wrote: Let's conclude that part of this thread by adding that these reactions invariably are given in answer to postings made by what in (y)our language is called an azijnpisser, a translation from the French pisse-vinaigre. 5) The best method to

Re: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List)

2011-04-30 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marck! On Saturday, April 30, 2011 at 12:35:46 PM you wrote: Sometimes a bug will take too long to fix and the attempt will delay a release that contains many other important fixes and feature updates. While frustrating for those affected by such a bug, I can understand why these

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Arjan, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 2:02:50 PM, you wrote: AdG 5) The best method to defend yourself against what is in yout eyes AdG unjust or unfair criticism is to put the motives of the critic in AdG question. Why should I defend myself for something I am not responsible for? It is not

Re: Mod: HTML use (was: Chinese language filtering bug)

2011-04-30 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 4:42:23 AM, Marck Pearlstone wrote: Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of testing. Just curious. Is there a way to mix fonts as the sender here did with plain text. I'd love to know how I can do that. -- Dwight A. Corrin

Re: HTML use

2011-04-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 15:44:01, Dwight Corrin wrote: Just curious. Is there a way to mix fonts as the sender here did with plain text. I'd love to know how I can do that. Not fonts - plain text always displays with the default font. Though I don't see where the OP used different fonts

Re: HTML use

2011-04-30 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 9:02:28 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: OP used different fonts (except in signature) my bad. don't use chinese characters, but assumed different font than the roman alphabet. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm

Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 5:04:39 AM, Mark Partous wrote: As you can see, I'm still using 4.2.44.2 (and should go back because 4.2.44.2 suffers from the problem with images on https servers) because I don't have the time, nor the setup to simply test it on a non-productive setup.

Question RE: Folder Views

2011-04-30 Thread Art
Hi, I've noticed an issue in the past Alphas and Betas regarding Folder Views, in particular when Grouped by Date. Each time I navigate away from the folder all of the threads get collapsed again. I do have Expand All Threads checked in the view, however it doesn't work with the Grouped By

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:37:23 +0200, Mark Partous wrote: Now you can call me whatever you want, I won't react anymore: someone has to stop this pointless conversation. 6) If you're starting to suspect you have no longer control over the conversation or feel you're are in danger of losing the

TBMapi Error

2011-04-30 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi TBBETA After sending a doc file from Office Word 2010 via send option with TheBat! and closing Word I got an error window: --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module TBMapi.dll at 000116F5. Resource leak: 2 instance(s)

Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread Rick
Hi, That may be a LOT deeper issue than the wrong icon when started from a shortcut. OK, we cant repair your car. We build it but we doesent have time to fix this problem because its much harder to find. We have to change wheel-screws primary on all the other cars. Not our problem if you

Re: HTML use

2011-04-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 16:14:58, Dwight Corrin wrote: my bad. don't use chinese characters, but assumed different font than the roman alphabet. Oh, you just need to use an appropriate character set for that (best to simply use UTF-8, which covers practically everything). ‮⊥ɥǝu ʎon ɔɐu

Re: TBMapi Error

2011-04-30 Thread Rick
Hi TBBETA After sending a doc file from Office Word 2010 via send option with TheBat! and closing Word I got an error window: Did you install the new TBmapi.dll? Just in case you didn't here are the original instructions Please download

Encoding Error

2011-04-30 Thread Rick
This is the first time I have received this when replying to message 513596993.20110430172...@yahoo.com --- Edit Mail Message - Martin Schoch tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com --- The message characters that cannot be encoded using currently selected

Re: 5.0.9.7 (Priority List)

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Arjan, On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:33:34 +0200 GMT (30/Apr/11, 18:33 PM +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: AdG In short, they let people pay for software that has trouble with basic AdG functions, like filtering and virtual folders. Moreover, it did take AdG less than a day after release to

Re: 5.0.9.6 - Virtual folders

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Arjan, On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:29:05 +0200 GMT (30/Apr/11, 17:29 PM +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: AdG 3) When they feel TB! is being unfairly criticized they invariably AdG argue that their beloved toy can do things that no other mail client AdG can do. AdG The 3d argument is, of

Re: Chinese language filtering bug

2011-04-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello RS, On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:53:32 +0800 GMT (29/Apr/11, 22:53 PM +0700 GMT), RS (FEDARA) wrote: RF It's my first post, so if there are any formal mistakes please let me know I am sorry to see that you got bashed by the mods before anybody even attempted to help you. RF There are couple of

Re: TBMapi Error

2011-04-30 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi Rick On Saturday, April 30, 2011 6:08:18 PM you wrote: After sending a doc file from Office Word 2010 via send option with TheBat! and closing Word I got an error window: Did you install the new TBmapi.dll? Just in case you didn't here are the original instructions Oops - thanks for

Re: HTML use

2011-04-30 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, JS ‮⊥ɥǝu ʎon ɔɐu po ʇɥıuбs lıʞǝ ʇɥıs´ ʇoo˙ Wow. :-) How did you do that? Not searching through the charset for each character manually, did you? -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service

Re: HTML use

2011-04-30 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 19:02:55, Alto Speckhardt wrote: How did you do that? Not searching through the charset for each character manually, did you? I've got a script that does it for me. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use utf8; binmode STDOUT,':utf8'; while() {

Re: HTML use

2011-04-30 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Guten Morgen, JS I've got a script that does it for me. Impressed. Thanks! ;-) -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 pgp0LNVdMHUHg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Dwight, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 4:19:13 PM, you wrote: DC another thing which I am confused about is users who threaten to or do DC leave because a feature is causing trouble but it doesn't exist in the DC product they move to. :-) Oh well, some people tend to create their

Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, April 30, 2011, 1:42:06 PM, Mark Partous wrote: mail tracker or ticker? ticker -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com

Re: 5.0.9.7

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Dwight, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 9:10:39 PM, you wrote: mail tracker or ticker? DC ticker I already thought it was a feature of TB! I did not know about. :-) I only use it for a few folders containing mail from professional partners. -- Best Wishes, Mark

5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_5-0-10.msi

Access violation when adding contact from Certificate Viewer to AddressBook

2011-04-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, when I open certificate of signed message and hit Add to Address Book, folowing AV appears: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 007A8A2C in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . --- OK

Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, April 30, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote: We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: - what about TMailMessage released before its use. error, is it fixed? - reply/Forward icons are not added to original

Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Stuart
Hello Marek, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 3:26:51 PM, you wrote: We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: - what about TMailMessage released before its use. error, is it fixed? - reply/Forward icons are not added to original

Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Rick
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? [-] (#0008204) Image smileys were not working when The Bat! was started from a desktop shortcut with no Start in folder defined

Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Marek, Could you please test wether 5.0.10 have new bugs comparing to 5.0.8? If no, we will release it and will be working on the bugs that you have mentioned. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com

Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Maxim, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:40:22 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)? [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and the Delete key is

Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?)

2011-04-30 Thread Miles Chang
Hello Maxim, Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:40:22 AM, you wrote: We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you please test the following files: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi

Re: Chinese language filtering bug

2011-04-30 Thread Miles Chang
Hello RS, Friday, April 29, 2011, 11:53:32 PM, you wrote: There are couple of bugs connected with Chinese characters. Sample Subject and Message Body below (had to remove sender and topic): Subject: 已读: Re:5YY Body: 这是邮件收条,收件人: x...@x.net 原邮件主题: Re:5Y