be displayed).
Enable by checking Standard.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
lately? What about purging / compacting
your mailboxes?
As for winsxs: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2795190
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com
arrow keys and highlight
the address you want to remove - press the delete key - presto!
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Related info:
Locate 16.5.1 To Configure Back End Stores with LMTP and a Minimal MTA:
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19566-01/819-4428/6n6j426tp/index.html
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL
and a Minimal MTA:
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19566-01/819-4428/6n6j426tp/index.html
Doh! The former - the error is probably caused by a configuration error. It
is not your PC (per se) that is rejected, but a machine outside your control
(unless these are your servers).
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea
it's now free for
registered users? Do we trust that? What actions should you take BEFORE your
account(s) expire(s) AND you start losing mail?
Current SpamCop status: It's on intravenous therapy - abandoned; no support.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
St:
As for support: If you have a problem with your account: You are on your own.
This isn't strictly true - one can always use forum.spamcop.net - BUT the
forum is NOT an official channel of SpamCop - if you get a response it's from
not an employee.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea
I send Spam to Spamcop.
Lately I have excessive Spam containing Trojans and Virus.
SpamCop is now at end-of-life - aka. dead.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http
it useless.
People used to talk to the SpamCop deputies @ support-ca...@spamcop.net
These are either fired or should be - because support-ca...@spamcop.net
is un-manned and no-one answers mail there anymore.
And: If you need to renew your account - good luck - that's a 404.
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St - Musaic.Net
- take notice: You will lose mail.
The SpamCop ship is abandoned - it's a Ghost Ship...
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
PS! But to be nice - I am yet again testing their lines - it could be they
are yet again re-organizing - I'll keep you posted on my findings
I'd like to correct myself:
I also USE SpamCop - since 1997.
Since 1999 - it's a small, unimportant detail - but now it's corrected. :)
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information
Has anyone seen files named bat4AA7.tmp, batDF96.tmp, bat4A27.tmp,
batB537.tmp etc, etc, etc?
As you say, these are TheBat Temp files. You can safely delete them when
The Bat is not running. It is a bit pity that TheBat is not houskeeping
itself.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:s...@musaic.net
it to be a
possible phishing attempt. But blocking a message just because PayPal
is present in Subject is just stupid.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com
(remember IMAP support?) an error can go unfixed
for years. And if it hasn't been fixed by then it will never be fixed.
But you *could* try: [MENU] Help - Feedback - Bug Report in TB.
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Current
(?) discover any lost
folders. That is what I think at least - can anyone confirm this?)
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:s...@musaic.net
Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
.
A REDIRECTed message will look as it was sent to the recipient (in this
case the credit card company). This should give them some extra options
and possibilities to trace the origin of the message as the redirected
message will be forwarded with the original headers fully intact.
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St - Musaic.Net
differently about the following:
Geoff:
Personally, I think that St - Musaic.Net was doint Ritlabs a favour
by making his post, as that should alert them to the issue of poor
customer service and permit them to do something about it.
Whether the support from RitLabs is poor or not, I don't know
Bill McQuillan:
Has anybody found a trick to get rid of this ugly field?
Marek Mikus (Czech support of The Bat!):
no
Do I find such an answer a bit arrogant and so what'ish
with regards to Bill's challenge?
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St - Musaic.Net mailto:listen2rea...@musaic.net
Is Kaspersky changing TB! AVConfig.INI without being asked for?
I think you should make sure Kaspersky is NOT running when you
edit its INI-file. It might be saving its marbles when you tell
Windows to shut down - hence, your manual edits are wiped.
Try to edit the INI-file and save
Hello!
I have a [Visual Basic] Focus Window problem with TheBat.
I have created an application that use the IPC-funtionality.
Basically, the application from time to time generates IPC-
files that are collected into a main IPC-file. This file is
then pushed into TheBat by way of the
Alexander S. Kunz:
I don't know if this has already been reported, here's a very nasty bug
that I accidentally stumbled across while finding out why certain email
messages wouldn't be delivered by the Exchange server of one of our
customers.
I can report a similar problem:
When
Finalcut:
What about a filter checking if @myisp.com is there AND [EMAIL PROTECTED]
isn't there? that wont kill e-mail from here right?
Alexander S. Kunz:
I think I don't understand what you mean...
A message that is sent as BCC to you has no header that gives a hint that
it was meant
I want to use TheBat! reading and sending my emails through an anonymous
proxy server
to hide my IP address. Is there anybody who has set up a similar environment?
Sending by the way of a non-traceable IP is prone to blocked mail. Most
ISPs would
probably think twice before accepting
Anyway, I also have a totally anonymous e-mail address you can absolutely not
figure out where it has been sent from other than the server, but the IP
address
doesn't mean anything:
Received: from mailvault.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by gateway.mailvault.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
Tony Boom:
http://www.firetrust.com/
I see that...
...MailWasher is still suggesting that you should bounce back unwanted
email to the spammer so it looks as if your email address is not valid.
That feature is a big problem, and I can't believe it is still in there!
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St
Steve Lee:
It is Spamcop.net not spamcop.com - big difference.
Yes - spamcop.com is is someone trying to trade on SpamCop.Net's
trademark and reputation. spamcop.com's marketing tactics are down-
right un-sporting. Gotta ask yourself what FirstTrust's deal is in
this...
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St
Tony Boom:
[MailWasher's Mail Bouncer] is a feature I never use.
Good!
My point is that the software suggest and promotes a feature that adds
to the spam problem: Say that a spam is misusing your address as Sender.
Would you dislike Mailwasher to accuse you of spamming and thus
St:
In the stricked sense...
Huh...that misspell was loud and embarrasing... :/
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St
Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Steve Lee:
I use Spamcop for filtering rather than TB or any other local product as
I find Spamcop usually very accurate with very few false positives but I
found 24 trapped messages from this group yesterday where I might expect
to find only 1 or 2 and identifying them so I can whitelist
Alexander S. Kunz:
But then again, the antispam solution you're using shouldn't catch on
TBUDlist messages... if it does, it would be interesting to see which
parameter raises the spam probability level of a list message - and
correct that error of the spam filter.
SpamCop allows
Only because some poor gullible soul took you too seriously :)
I have reason to belive I am that gullible person, thank you!
Please notice that the [TBUDL] tag was automagically added to
the subject line by the software I am running here on my PCs. And
when replying to the original
In order to easily identify emails from this group trapped in our spam
filters can all subject fields please be prefixed with [The Bat!] if
you have control over the emailer software used?
Why can't you just sort on list email adresses?!? You can not rely on
each user to insert a tag -
See strangemails.png
Doesn't really say anything - we need to see the headers of said message(s).
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St
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let us finish the current cycle first.
Put in context, some of the headers of you mail are a bit funny:
From: Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from argus.ritlabs.com ([195.138.101.49])
by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44)
Is it not possible to set up a shortkey within TB, as I have
done with other menu items?
A shortkey or a keyboard macro can be set up in a dedicated
macro designer á la Iolo Macro Magic;
http://www.iolo.com/mm/index.cfm
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St
There is a misprint in http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/about.php
The misprint is: A deep understanding of our customers real needs and
the pleasure of working with our products is an obligatory feature and
is also our trademark. We prefer to make everything of a high quality or
not to
I just filled out a Refund Claim form over at element5.
According to element5, refunds must be approved by the
software publisher. Upon receipt, we will forward your
refund request to the software publisher who will then
authorize the refund within 2 business days. Approved
refunds
Alexander S. Kunz:
AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls).
St:
True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_
short intervals. Or?
Roelof Otten:
But nevertheless it is extremely short. When a server has multiple
users with such a
Alexander S. Kunz:
AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls).
True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_ short
intervals. Or?
Alexander S. Kunz:
An environment that, as you said some weeks ago, requires you to restart TB
now and
St:
Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to
exactly so?
Thomas Fernandez:
No, I haven't. But I have noticed that I need to invoke check mail
for all in order to ensure that periodical mail check will occur.
I do, too. My problem is that I usually will have
St:
TB does not react to Windows Show Desktop try Windows+M
and see for yourself.
Allie Martin:
TB! disappears/minimizes here.
Andre Wichartz:
It depends on whether you have TB! set to show in the task bar.
I can confirm this. Options - Preferences - General, _check_
Do not
Alexander S. Kunz:
Options/Preferences/General - Display Connection centre - HIDE
Thanks - there is always something to learn!
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St
Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
St:
...exactly how do you send TB that IPC command when TB fails
to read the file that contains the request!?!
Alexander S. Kunz:
You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which
passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the
helpfile, too.
Don't be too
Alexander S. Kunz:
Have you investigated why this is happening? SysInternals
FileMon may be of help. Maybe your on-access virus scanner
blocks the file, something like that?
Funny that you ask - I am currently running FileMon here
(with an exclusive logging of thebat.IPC-accesses.
Connection Centre should minimize to System Tray, not Windows
Taskbar!. I have TB check for and download from three accounts
at a 30 seconds interval and the (non-timely) pop-in appearance
of the Connection Centre in the Windows Taskbar is pretty
disturbing! For example, say that I
Scenario: I use TB to download mail 24 hours a day mostly
unattended downloading and processing mail. I have TB redirect
mail to some friends (my system checks for spam and/or virus
and redirects a message if none is present). Every now and then
I reboot the PC (remotely). From time
Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to
do exactly so?
I have four accounts that checks mail. Accounts 1, 2, and 4 is set
to check mail every 30 seconds, the third is set to check every 30
minutes. But at the time of writing (12:49PM CET) TB hasn't checked
You want to exit and restart TB or reboot the PC. This is pretty
easy to do while in front of the PC - but if TB is downloading
mail unattended it is a totally different story!
[ Message contains pictures - read it here:
http://www.musaic.net/tb/warning.htm ]
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St
Rick Friedman:
Is there anyway to have TB! automatically park outgoing messages based
on who the recipient is?
Ian A. White:
You can by setting an outgoing filter where you set the recipients and
then in the Actions tab you pick park.
This only work on sent mail! If you want to park
Deleting or emptying thebat.IPC does not fix it.
Exiting the TB and then restart does not fix it.
Rebooting the entire PC fixes it - but that's not elegant!
That is, some sort of a _combination_ of 1 and 2 works:
Deleting thebat.IPC fixes it when TB is restarted (no reboot
is
Actually, it should be /EXPORTU=JunkShield - Musaic.Net;
Thank you - I will try that. Helpfile is wrong then?
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St
Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
St:
Helpfile is wrong then?
Stefan:
What about?
All over the information refers to /EXPORT - no U nor F unless one
look at the examples. The examples show U and F - but give no hint
_why_ you should add U or F to /EXPORT. But given the additional
info you provided, I'll manage!
From the Help-file:
FOLDER=value or F=value value is the source folder's pathname. If the pathname
does not include an account name, The Bat! will search all accounts for a folder
with a matching name; the first folder found will be used as the source folder.
If the specified folder is not
From the Help-file:
FOLDER=value or F=value value is the source folder's pathname. If the pathname
does not include an account name, The Bat! will search all accounts for a folder
with a matching name; the first folder found will be used as the source folder.
If the specified folder is not
The problem of developing new plugin is limited because of the not well
developed API Interface of TheBat!
How do these plug-ins work schematic? From the word _plug-in_ I figure
it is like downloading mail SMTP/IMAP - Plug-In - The Bat, right? How
do the plug-in grab the info, and how do
I am using Christmas Edition - 2.02 CE
The formatting of %TEXT seems to be buggy - the following quote
(5 lines) is what it looks like when viewing text in the inline
Message Text-viewer:
Rune Bæverrud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xilinx Field Applications Engineer |\ _,,,---,,_
Let me provide a follow-up to my message:
The formatting of %TEXT seems to be buggy - the following quote
(5 lines) is what it looks like when viewing text in the inline
Message Text-viewer:
I forgot to mention that both these messages had text/HTML-parts
properties set as:
Text:
Options / Preferences / General / untick X-Mailer...
Funny - that option is not present in my version (2.01).
Why is that?
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St
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I was spending ages looking for hypens in the original from,
but I see you meant quotes.
I was awfully tired at the time of writing - I am sorry for
this particular mistyping and the others I see are in there!
[Quotes] aren't needed in the header from what I remember...
I feel they are
One thing that annoys me is reading about functionailty and features
in TB! that for some reason suddenly behave different (and wrongly).
For example, I have a great number of rules. Some of these rules are
handling mailing lists. And suddenly, under certain conditions the
rules are
Hi Gordon, thanks for finding that line i thought i was going mad.
And thanks for the tip John.
Now - can you go one step further? What about not using Ritlabs
at all - and what about removing that Educational, Personal,
and Business? My X-Mailer line now looks much more personal! ;)
/
I would create an Incoming filter that is triggered by a secret code
(string) in the subject line. When you send a message with that code
to the account TB is checking, an automated message will be sent to
the account that you check while on the road. This way, you can check
wehther TB is
How do you do a restart if TB! hangs? Also my win2K system requires a
PW or when no pw is needed a press of the enter key.
Well, I am fortunated enough to have people around that can turn the PC
off and on - and when that has been done my PC logs in with the correct
user. It hasn't
This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this
on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain
threading.)
Point taken - but to those who don't follow TBOT, I'd like to say:
Please spank me no more! Weeeny! I am a repentant! Have Mercy! :)
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Why is it that each time someone violated the list rules regarding top
posting then the rest of us are punished with that extra error message
that apparently was meant for mr. Don T. Feelsingledout?!?
Why these repetitve instructions?!?
/ St
Oh, that's good to know. But still, can you tell me *how* they happen?
Look up the headers - messages with equal Message-IDs are duplicates.
/ St
Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information:
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Business
That is a faked header produced by the Advanced Mass Sender (AMS) by Max Terentiev.
This spamware offers four different X-Mailer lines:
Advanced Mass Sender
Outlook Express 4.72
X-Mailer
The Bat! (v1.52f) Business
/ St
For the Office Rules there is a provision to Export to File,
BUT the feature only allows for appending to an existing file
or export to a file with a fixed path and name. For my needs,
neither of these options preferred - I simply need an option
to Export to File where the file is given
Yeah, right. And the sad part is that if it was really
a vote, OE would probably win ;-)
Just like when you...they...vote for their President?
They voted - but it turns out the president actually
was not the president they wanted after all...
The comparison is maybe far-fetched, but
Can we please have the option to have *all* filter actions logged
rather than just those from incoming mail.
The log for Office Rules should mention _what_ condition (keyword
etc.) in a rule that triggered that particular rule.
As an example - some of my anti-spam rules has tons of
I had a situation occur over the weekend (when I am less attentive to
my mail) which caused a mail filter loop and sent out 457 'fwd: fwd:
fwd: ' messages to a mailing list I manage. That is 457 X
10,212 (or 4.66 _MILLION_ plus) messages before I caught the error.
I still don't
WOW! It certainly must take a lot of time from you to manage the filters
Up to now it _took_ a lot of time to create good filters.
Why re-invent the wheel! Haven't you thought about using something like
POPFile for detecting spam?
If I had to manage those filters I would delete them and
The subject of your message does not correspond completely
with what you are writing about! :-)
Hmmm, didn't know of that plug-in...
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How can one unsubscribe to this list? I haven't been
able to find any instructions for that.
Sure not - because you are just to lazy! Each and every
damn message to this list has this line in the signature:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Would you mind reading this
1:
How can one unsubscribe to this list? I haven't been able to find any
instructions for that.
2:
Sure not - because you are just to lazy! Each and every damn message
to this list has this line in the signature:
3:
No offence, but was that necessary? Pointing out the link is usually
I don't see it as a problem on TBUDL. There are two or sometimes three
such requests per month. I think your feeling fed up stems from your
other lists.
Not from the lists I administrate - my own system using explicit addys
for unsubscribing works as I want them to. But I have seen this
Can someone explain this to me, as I am getting HUNDREDS`of them or
similar. I don't seem to have a font that will display them (Netscape
says I need a Chinese font, when I try to load the HTML component)
It's likely Chinese spam - the spammers couldn't care less whether the
mail is
You would drop many messages from me if you and I exchanged business
e-mail :)
Can't see why since this is what a whitelist would and should fix.
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
Try replying to the right person. You just piggybacked my reply ;-)
I see that now...just forget I replied, people...and once again I
did not add anything clever to the discussion...
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
NEWS in TB?!? NO THANK YOU - and do not expect me to accept a price raise
of 30% because TB3 (or whenever it is coming out) now adds a newsreader!
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
Is there an upper limite The Bat! can handle?
Well, at least it can hold 2,5GB in more than hundred folders
containing more than a total of 300.000 messages... ;)
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
Could someone please explain what FTP is?
FTP = File Transfer Protocol - typically, you would use FTP
to transfer file(s) from one computer to another computer;
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213976,00.html
/ St
I checked my two folders for TB stuff (actually, there are four
when I include the external archives (old TB stuff)), and I
found that by topic many of the discussions could have taken
place on either of the lists (with the exception of the beta-
list)...
By ideal, there is a border
More hidden Microsoft miracles. :)
Oh, Microsoft is a notorious borrower...
One world, one web, one program - Microsoft
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
You are very right. But it is completely understandable that, being
English the official language of the list, those whose native
language is English, or have a good knowledge of it, tend to forget
that there may be words or expressions some of us may not understand.
Oh, don't worry -
What about TB? I will backup the whole folder, install TB anew, and
copy everything from the old folder back to where it belongs. This
should save all preferences etc.
Am I right? Or is there a better way to do it?
If you make sure the folder you are installing TB into is 100% equal
to
Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? One sort is the
order in which they were added. Another is alphabetical order.
Dangerous! (...at least for me!) My rules are IF? THEN! ELSE!! based.
Sorting then around alfabetically would be THEN what IF...HUH!? DOH!
Another might be
I just couldn't imagine someone having around 100 filters
under incoming and trying to manage them.
I have 301 rules working hard for the money...on a PII233!
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
('search engine')
JunkShield Spamvestigater (known spammers)
JunkShield Spamvestigater (if 'relay' and no '4703')
JunkShield Spamvestigater (if 'bomber' and no 9773055435')
St - Musaic.Net
St - Tritonhaven.Com
St - Whosh.Net
etc.
we could have
- VirusShield
VirusShield
Is it possible to apply a newly created 'Sorting Rule' to the messages
that are *currently* in the Inbox? This is possible in Outlook Expr,
but I can't find a similar function in 'The Bat!'. Can someone help me
out?
Folder - Re-filter - Click for Incoming Mail.
/ St
I've played with some filters but have done nothing with macros yet in
TB!. Could a macro be created to do this? IE: have the macro issue 10
ALT-DOWN ARROW commands?
Macroes in TB are not supposed to do that, and I use Macro Magic for
such things; http://www.iolo.com (it's for PC).
Denne mailkonto er lukket
moderator
Before anyone else jumps in, I've managed to work out that this is
Danish for This mail account is closed or something like it.
Mother Eyetor - you are right - and just for the record:
It could just just as well have been Norwegian, although lukket
I know and use the regular way of adding email addresses
to address book. Initially it seems that the registration
of an address is that the process is pretty much like
putting the First/Middle/Last thus creating Display name
as ie.
FIRST NAME = Gary
MIDDLE NAME =
LAST
Why does the Backup function not back up the Address book?
There is this Choose button associated with Addressbooks.
Unfortunately, it sometimes default to something you regret!
/ St
Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL
X-Authentication-Warning for filtering SPAM?
No!
To see how a filter will affect you system, just do a search:
Do a search (account level) for X-Authentication-Warning...
...how many messages would that affect - and are they spam?
/ St
I'm going to be moving TB to a different computer in the next few
days, would like simple, step-by-step instructions on what to do
please :-)
I do that from time to time - I think my system is particularly big
despite being private mailsystem: In total my system has close to
300
I wish to copy a pile of folders to another account.
Is there some way to really do this?
Close TB, copy folder in Explorer, open TB, press SHIFT+CTRL+ALT+L?
/ St
Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:
This puzzles me: Is there any particular reason why the dialog-
box for tweaking Sorting Office rules is non-resizeable?!?!?
And why the hell did they choose that useless small size?!?
/ St
Current version is 1.61 | Using
St This puzzles me: Is there any particular reason why the dialog-
St box for tweaking Sorting Office rules is non-resizeable?!?!?
TF I don't see a reason, apart from that all is displayed that you
TF need to access.
No - it's not.
My rules have decent descriptive names. Because of
St [it] puzzles me...
It just struck me...The Connmecting Centre is sizeable and you
may set it to a size and layout that you find comfortable. And CC
is a dialog box that you pretty much set-and-leave.
BUT the dialog box you desperately need more space in (although
that
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