Command Line Parameters
Hello TBUDL, I am new to The Bat! and I am having trouble finding the Command Line Parameters in the help file - clicking on 'Command line parameter' brings up an empty dialog saying 'Click a topic, then click Display' - a bit difficult! I want to be able to start The Bat! with the email editor open with an address entered - with Agent I passed the following parameters: -home:MailIniFile -url: + strEmail strEmail being a variable holding the email address. Is this possible in The Bat! please? -- Best regards, Jeff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Command Line Parameters
Hello Alexander, On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 4:05:45 PM, you wrote: Hello Jeff Gaines, 11-Aug-2004 14:54, you wrote: I am new to The Bat! and I am having trouble finding the Command Line Parameters in the help file - clicking on 'Command line parameter' brings up an empty dialog saying 'Click a topic, then click Display' - a bit difficult! Thats odd. It shows fine here with the same version (2.12.00) Is this possible in The Bat! please? Thats very easy with the /MAIL option. I'll send you the portion of the help text via PM. Many thanks Alexander, I received the PM and it works fine, even to the extent of putting a proper greeting in the email :-)) Thanks also for your comment about the help file - It encouraged me to find the solution - nothing to do with TB. I run dual monitors, if the 'Topics Found' dialog comes up on the secondary monitor it's blank, if it comes up on the primary screen it's fine - moving it doesn't help, it must appear first time on the primary screen or it doesn't work. I had a similar problem with Delphi and always put it down to the way the help file was written but it looks like a more fundamental Windows related problem, I'll have to do some investigation. Thanks again :-)) -- Best regards, Jeffmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Hello Graham, On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:00:10 PM, you wrote: Hello Morgan, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:15:27 PM, you wrote: MP Hi Graham, GD Anyone got any other suggestions for mail clients ? GD Graham MP The funny thing is Outlook is now a better client than TB!. Outlook MP 2003 has virtual folders, an excellent filtering system, secure MP e-mail reading features such as not downloading pictures or running MP scripts. dropping off the list.. Any idea how I can get all my mails from TB into Outlook Graham The 'classic' root is to install Eudora, import your Bat mail into Eudora then use O/L to import from Eudora. It's long winded but it works. I set up O/L 2002 and moved all my email from Agent via Eudora. I gave up on O/L though because (a) it doesn't use conventional 'unix' mail boxes so transferring mail is a pain and (b) it's not very good at threading - you seem to have to play around with group this group that etc. and end up with a gray bar you have to click to see your mail. Don't know if 2003 is any better? -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Hello Jeff, On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 1:30:58 PM, you wrote: [snipped] The 'classic' root is to install Eudora, import your Bat mail into Eudora then use O/L to import from Eudora. It's long winded but it works. [snipped] Sorry but having had a good night's sleep I had to correct this - I meant 'route' of course, I do know the difference :-) -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello Roelof, On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:40:19 PM, you wrote: Hallo Lynn, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:23:01 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 0:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L However, do you know how I can recover my message base on L a new installation? I have the old folder files stashed on L a different drive; I didn't use the backup/recover option L because there was some corruption there that I couldn't L get rid of. Create a new account and insert the same folders you had in your original account. Select one of your folders Tools - Import messages - From TB message base - Browse to your old folder corresponding with your current one, select the messages.tbb file and you're importing. Do this for all of your folders I have been following this thread with some interest as I have to do a re-install of XP soon. The long term answer would be for Ritlabs to keep TB!'s settings in an ini file instead of the registry - I think MS have been recommending for a couple of years that application specific settings are kept in ini files (or perhaps XML files nowadays). Agent does this and, since I keep all my 'well behaved' apps on the D: drive, after an OS re-install they are all available for immediate use, since they don't need any registry settings to work. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello Roelof, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 11:39:38 AM, you wrote: Hallo Jeff, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:12:56 +0100GMT (3-9-2004, 11:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG I have been following this thread with some interest as I have to do a JG re-install of XP soon. JG The long term answer would be for Ritlabs to keep TB!'s settings in an JG ini file instead of the registry I'd prefer that myself, but there's a workaround. You can save TB's registry settings to disk, that way you can import it when you've installed XP again. Sionce you're planning to do a re-install you can prepare yourself properly. It can also be automated by using a .bat file with a command like this: c:\windows\regedit.exe /e c:\thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Adjust the path settings to your preferences. I never fail to be amazed by command line wizards who can achieve in 10 seconds what it would take hours to do any other way :-) That's brilliant - I used it for XanaNews as well so I can re-install my news reader the same way. Many thanks! -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No more colons
Hello Michael,
On Friday, September 3, 2004, 11:56:47 PM, you wrote:
Jonathan Andrew Sheen wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Angle brackets. These are the arrow ones: {}
I always thought these {} were called curly brackets. Well... :-)
When I went to school, they were braces.
The Jargon File has this to say about their names:
When I went to school computers hadn't been invented and we had black
and white television (9 screen).
--
Best wishes
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello MAU, On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 9:44:32 AM, you wrote: Hello Lynn, JG Agent does this and, since I keep all my 'well behaved' apps on the JG D: drive, after an OS re-install they are all available for JG immediate use, since they don't need any registry settings to work. It would certainly be a godsend if they'd all do that; I had to reload the system recently, too, but I am a *long* way from getting my apps all reinstalled .. and as you say, they are all sitting intact on the D partition, but unusable. I won't say the Registry is the best of the inventions but, think of something. What if you and me were to share the same machine as different Windows users (i.e. with different login). Whose settings and Preferences should TB keep in the ini file? Should we share the same message base (i.e. mail directory)? Even if we use different mail accounts we would be forced to password protect each account and, even so, why should I see your accounts in my folder tree and you see mine in yours? Etc., etc., etc. Try it. Create another user and then log off and login as the new user and see what happens. Miguel (a) Anybody who touches *my* computer gets their fingers chopped off! (b) How about TB! asks which user you are and then uses jeff.ini, lynne.ini, miguel.ini etc? In fact I might patent that idea. (c) MS started to recommend individual configuration files some time back, surely we all do what MS says without question ;-) -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello Jeff, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 12:48:26 PM, you wrote: Hello Roelof, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 11:39:38 AM, you wrote: Hallo Jeff, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:12:56 +0100GMT (3-9-2004, 11:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG I have been following this thread with some interest as I have to do a JG re-install of XP soon. JG The long term answer would be for Ritlabs to keep TB!'s settings in an JG ini file instead of the registry I'd prefer that myself, but there's a workaround. You can save TB's registry settings to disk, that way you can import it when you've installed XP again. Sionce you're planning to do a re-install you can prepare yourself properly. It can also be automated by using a .bat file with a command like this: c:\windows\regedit.exe /e c:\thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Adjust the path settings to your preferences. I never fail to be amazed by command line wizards who can achieve in 10 seconds what it would take hours to do any other way :-) That's brilliant - I used it for XanaNews as well so I can re-install my news reader the same way. Many thanks! Just a follow up to say I have set up a new PC, copied TB! over, ran the reg files and I'm in business :-) Thanks again Roelof. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is a natural email system?
Hello Michael, On Sunday, September 5, 2004, 1:48:16 AM, you wrote: [snipped] I think they called it The Bat because of the location of the company: Transylvania (at least it used to be many years ago). So that's why I get a stinging feeling in my neck when I use it :-) -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello Jeff, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 10:12:56 AM, you wrote: Hello Roelof, [snipped] The long term answer would be for Ritlabs to keep TB!'s settings in an ini file instead of the registry - I think MS have been recommending for a couple of years that application specific settings are kept in ini files (or perhaps XML files nowadays). I have just realised that TB! was using an American spell checker so I downloaded the International pack and installed it. After re-starting I couldn't find the option for 'English'. Guess what? TB! installed it in Program Files and not into my Bat installation folder (on D:). What value the registry now? -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Registration issues with new user
Hello Doug, On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 5:36:58 AM, you wrote: Hi Michael, [snipped] TB! keeps its mail in standard Unix mailboxes - you can read you mail in any text editor. I know it's fixed now but you only need to open the inbox in a text editor and do a search for some likely key words. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: bayesit063.rar bayesit064.rar bayesit065.rar ?
Hello DZ-Jay, On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 11:19:24 AM, you wrote: Some time around 09/22/2004 05:35:48, I think I heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] say: I've never tried myself but it sounds like a challenge. Well... the manuals and documentation *start* with things like: Get this [obscure filename] from CPAN and make a build from the tar file into the kernel. Then go to usr and cmod the backflip overfile with a underbite of KMD. And that's the documentation for 'dummies'! Which distro is that? And what does that documentation pertain to? CPAN is the repository of Perl modules, and I don't think the average user would have anything to do with downloading or installing perl modules unless he is a developer or really knows what he is doing. Besides, even CPAN now has a built in module that comes with Perl that allows automatic installation (yes, it untars, makes and builds the modules for you, fancy that!). [snipped] dZ. I'll second that! I've recently installed Mandrake 10 and SuSE 9.1 on a spare machine and I was downloading newsgroups within an hour (sharing the connection on my XP box). Linux is very straightforward to install and use nowadays and the 'average' user who doesn't look under the bonnet would probably not notice the difference between a KDE desk top and XP. If Windows s/w continues to require me to activate it then I will move to Linux permanently, every app you need is included as well. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability
Hello admin, On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 7:33:05 PM, you wrote: Hi, Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:25:51 PM, you wrote: aacu b) Unspecified instability causing TB to quit and close down without aacu warning with a 'MS error 'Send Now' message thing. aacu This seems, so far, not to happen when TB is displayed on the primary aacu monitor. aacu Anyone else using dual monitors are you getting similar probs? After a day of complete nightmare with TB crashing out and system errors popping up everywhere I've uninstalled TB and am using it on my Laptop. I am very disappointed to discover that this has been a long term bug/problem and nothing seems to have been done about it. I can't believe this is regarded as trivial. I am running dual monitors here on a Radeon 9800 Pro. I have just been moving TB! between monitors and re-sizing column headers without problems. Unfortunately most s/w is not dual monitor aware (try Delphi 7 for some fun) and the older Windows help system produces blank dialogs on the secondary monitor. Are your graphics drivers up to date? -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability
Hello admin, On Friday, September 24, 2004, 1:40:48 PM, you wrote: Hello admin, On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 7:33:05 PM, you wrote: I am running dual monitors here on a Radeon 9800 Pro. I have just been moving TB! between monitors and re-sizing column headers without problems. Are your graphics drivers up to date? Interesting thought - I have now installed manufacturers drivers rather than the Plug and Play drivers XP used. Before I try TB again, then, can you convince me that the drivers might have a specific effect on the crashing of TB? Not really but it's better than the standard help desk suggestion of re-installing the OS :-) Many of the standard XP drivers are quite basic, I tend to keep mine up to date from the manufacturers' web site. You could install and play with TB! without putting any data in it? -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help file / manual for V3
Hello Stuart, On Friday, September 24, 2004, 2:54:37 PM, you wrote: My help file still refers to version 2 (at least it says What's new in version 2) and I can not find a more up-to-date version. Please can someone point me to the updated help file or manual. I am sure that RIT Labs would not have done a major release without producing a new help file or manual, I am just not able to find it. Well, assuming this is not a troll, and taking an expression from one of the IT support people many years ago comparing DisplayWrite with Word for windows, the help file is WYGIWYG - what you get is what you get! This is probably the best place for help, very knowledgeable and friendly people, along with the occasional moderator popping up to keep us in line, it's like being back at school :-) -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to version 3
Hello Group On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 7:08:53 PM, wrote: Dear TBUDL members, [snip] Anything else I need to know/do? Please do state what ought to be the obvious! Thanks in advance, Be careful if you don't have the current version in C:\Program Files - the installer defaults to that (it doesn't seem to check the registry). There is an option to tell it where to install but I missed it :-( -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dual monitor problem with adjusting headers
Hello Group On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 1:05:01 PM, wrote: [snip] BTW, does anybody know a good graphics gard with dual monitors support which is also good for playing games? I'm using a Radeon 9800 Pro and it comes up with good benchmarks in games, 220 FPS for Quake demo. I have played a couple of demos of Unreal but games don't keep my attention. For quality though I don't think you can beat Matrox, unfortunately my Parhelia is in the Matrox hospital at the moment, I hope it will be back soon! -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dual monitor problem with adjusting headers
Hello Group On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 4:46:33 PM, wrote: Hæ! Thursday, October 14, 2004, 16:35, Jeff Gaines wrote: I'm using a Radeon 9800 Pro and it comes up with good benchmarks in games, 220 FPS for Quake demo. I have played a couple of demos of Unreal but games don't keep my attention. Does it have Dual Monitor support? Yes - 1 x VGA and 1 x DVI (the Matrox is dual DVI, I think some of the newer games cards have dual DVI as well). -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Top posting (was: Save decrypted PGP messages?)
Hello Group On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 12:01:02 AM, wrote: Saturday, October 9, 2004, 1:12:44 AM, Mica wrote: MM Btw, is good to have local time also quoted, altho just a remark about MM time zone(s) helps enough too. I've been absent from the list for a while and have just taken the time to read some posts - this being the first. I have to agree with Mica's comment above. I haven't bothered in my personal emails, but in my line of work (IT) I deal a lot with people in other timezones. To this end I always put the following on my footer: GMT +13:00 I don't see the point of making any reference to what time it is *now* in anyone's timezone. I'm telling you I am at GMT + 13. When/if that matters to anyone, they can figure out whether to call me. It's a pity everybody in NZ isn't so aware of time differences :-) Before I retired, if my phone rang at 2.30 a.m. I would always pick it up and say 'hello James!' to which the reply was always 'did I get the time difference right this time?' Perhaps NZ Financial Controllers aren't as switched on as NZ IT people? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Group On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 7:13:09 PM, wrote: Hallo Bill, On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:34:59 -0700GMT (16-10-2004, 19:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM After getting the e-mail from Ritlabs announcing the availability of 3.01, I BM went to the download page and discovered that even though the page shows the BM size of each version of The Bat!, what I actually get when downloading the home BM edition is a tiny .msi file and NOT the actual program itself! The links on the homepage talk about archives 8.4 and 4.5 MB big and that's what I got. For the rest you don't need anything. It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is which :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Group On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 1:27:19 PM, wrote: Hi Jeff, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 5:34:25 AM, you wrote: JG It would be nice if the installer had a version number tacked on the JG end. I've lost track of the number I have and can't tell which is JG which :-) I know what you mean. My own practice is to alter the filename (not the extension) when I'm downloading something that may have a non-specific name such as setup.exe, so that it says something like setup_Program-A_ver_1-0.exe before saving it. That way I can at least know what the program is and which version I have downloaded. What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata so that I could enter a paragraph of information about each thing I download and what motivated me to do so. There are some programs, I know, like Total Commander for example, that provide the option to enter a one-line description, but that's not quite the same thing. I am not, however, optimistic that the option to enter metadata tags about downloads is on the horizon. I've written an app (in C#) which extends the Explorer context menu so that you can keep file notes in an Access database. Only problem is now that I've got it working I rarely remember it's there - and it needs unique file names to work. I've re-named the latest d/l and will try to discipline myself for the future :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Query of Interest] The Bat! Merchandise
Hello David, On Monday, October 4, 2004, 1:45:38 AM, you wrote: Hello, everyone. [snipped] If RITLabs were to offer The Bat! merchandise, via an agreement with CafePress.com (http://www.cafepress.com/), for example, would you be interested in purchasing The Bat! merchandise? (RITLabs would make some money via the arrangement, but we would, in turn, get some cool stuff.) :-) Absolutely not, I want an email client, if I want a jumper I'll go to a clothes shop. [snipped] :David_Dickerson: Your sig separator is broken, it should be dash dash space. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
V3 Upgrade
Hello TBUDL, I've just upgraded to V3, well I thought I had :-( I discovered that TheBat! installer ignores all the registry entries relating to current versions and installs itself in C:\Program Files, what is the point in writing entries to the registry and then ignoring them? So I then un-installed TB!, re-installed it (telling it where this time) and it lost all my current settings :-( Fortunately I had exported the branch of the registry for a previous re-install and by double clicking the reg file I have got my settings (and mail) back. I fully accept that I missed the option to select the install directory but normally when you upgrade the installer can work out for itself where it should go. Should this be brought to the attention of Ritlabs or is it just carelessness on my part? -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rogues
Hello TBUDL, OK, now I've got a working V3 can I check a point on the rogues gallery please? I think that to get my picture to show up I have to put my name between colons as I have in this email (I don't think you'll get a picture until the DNA tests are complete). Presumably this means that when I email somebody who is not switched on enough to use TB! they just see an extra copy of my name at the end of the message? I can see that there is a broader option for templates in V3 though. Does that mean that I can set up a template for my TBUDL common folder including the :xxx: bit and that it will over-ride the template in my normal BTI account? That seems logical, and useful, to me but I don't want to break this, it's only an hour old :-) I can also see that with some people their picture shows up even though I can't see the :xxx: bit in their email. e.g. Thorvald (like the hat!) has a picture but no :xxx: whereas Lynn has a :Hawthorne: in her sig, although interestingly her picture isn't showing. Is there a 'howto' for this, I'm not sure I've understood it at all! Many thanks -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogues
Hello Roelof, On Monday, October 4, 2004, 5:36:48 PM, you wrote: Hallo Jeff, On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 16:39:21 +0100GMT (4-10-2004, 17:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: [snipped] Yuck, that was nasty of you. You inserted Lynn's rogue-handle in your message and since it was placed before yours, it was used in the header. Bad, bad, bad, bad. ;-) The reason that you don't see Lynn, is that you either use the plain text viewer or didn't download the latest rogues.zip (that includes a picture of you too, I'm just wondering: Are you the oldest or the youngest person on that picture?) Whoops! Apologies to Lynn, who is obviously much prettier than me :-) I discovered that I was using the plain text viewer so I've changed that. Thank you very much for that explanation Roelof, I will save it to my help folder. I am, sadly, the older one in the picture, my grandson was seven days old when that was taken! -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What is CPS ?
Hello Group On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 6:29:47 PM, wrote: Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else 05-Okt-2004 17:45, you wrote: [snipped] But then again, BPS (or bps) is already taken, too: as bits-per-second. Its very common in the fax/modem world... making it KB/S (as for example in Opera when it is retrieving a page) would be better - with more and more broadband connections, who's counting characters, anyway? :-) Those of us who live in small English villages connected to the outside world by pieces of damp string :-) Nearly everybody in the developing world? Anyway, who cares, 96 days until we get Broadband :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purge unread messages?
Hello Group On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 5:59:28 PM, wrote: Hello Gerard! On Tuesday, October 05, 2004, 11:16 AM, you wrote: G h2g2 :) h2g2 , it should be, if you want to call the image. :42: At this rate we'll soon see more *cons in messages than text :-) Perhaps I should scan in the naval signal flags, then we could abolish text (except for our sig separators of course). -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability
Hello Group On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 2:17:29 PM, wrote: Hello Steven, Wednesday, October 6, 2004, 8:56:57 AM, you wrote: admin, I also use TB (v2) on a multi-monitor (3) configuration. Do you have a physical 3 screens or virtual ? I tried on 2 physical screens, works fine. Since application have no idea that there are more than 1 screen. And since I use TB2, I doubt it will ever be fixed because I get a strong impression that v2 has been abandoned. RIT wants us to pay for v3 to get features we neither need nor want in order to get bug fixes to v2 that haven't even been implemented. Welcome to the real world (c) A black guy with a blue pills from a place that calls Matrix. I wonder if the key may be whether you use the multi monitors as one big screen (stretched mode in Matrox speak) or run them independently? I often have problems when old style help dialogs appear on the secondary monitor in that the dialog has a caption asking me to select something but the body is empty. My Parhelia is having a break at the Matrox hospital in Ireland at the moment, I'll do some experiments when (?if) it comes back. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: : TB 3.01 Installer
Hello Group On Sunday, October 17, 2004, 6:03:49 PM, wrote: Hi Allie, Sunday, October 17, 2004, 11:33:45 AM, you wrote: What I'd really like to see though is for the OS to provide some way to enter a narrative description of each DL as metadata ... AM XP does this for you. AM Right click the download and look at the properities. You'll see a AM summaries tab. You can type what you wish under Comments. Well, sonofagun, so it does! Thanks, Allie. It had never occurred to me to look for that feature. And here, I thought I had come up with something new! Also thanks for your extended comment to Miguel. That pretty well meets all the needs I had envisioned. Super! Don't forget you lose all the data on re-install of the OS - unless anybody has found a way to save it? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Clicking on URL in TB! Opens Firefox Twice
Hello Group I thought that TB! was firing up Firefox twice when I clicked on a URL in a mail. I put it down to user error because when I used Agent I had to double click. However, I have just spent a few minutes experimenting and on my PC I can confirm that one click fires up two instances of Firefox. Has anybody else noticed this? Is there any way to stop it? Regards -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Clicking on URL in TB! Opens Firefox Twice
Hello Group On Monday, October 18, 2004, 5:24:49 PM, wrote: Op Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:15:29 +0100 schreef Jeff Gaines: Has anybody else noticed this? Doesn't happen here, using Firefox/0.10.1. Perhaps the bug has been fixed. Thanks everybody for that, I thought I was going mad or getting trembly hands. The .reg file didn't get through but I did a manual edit (and will save the post for the next time) - and it's fixed :-) I'll also get V1 of Firefox down, I really appreciate its tabbed browsing. Thanks again. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail Update
Hello Group On Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 4:05:20 PM, wrote: Hello I have uninstalled everything and removed all traces (that I can find) from the Register. Reinstalled everything and fed BayesIT with 500 good and 500 bad emails. I will let you know (if you are interested) if I find any further email stripping. Let us know if you want any of us to send you test emails of any type. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronise 2 installations
Hello Group On Friday, October 22, 2004, 10:57:14 AM, wrote: PJ Dear All, PJ I want to run TB on my laptop as well as my Desktop and keep the PJ installations in sync. Both could be receiving and sending between PJ synchronizations. My questions are: PJ Does anyone do this on a regular basis? PJ The help file is a bit thin on detail; do I need to create a backup PJ for each sync? (That would be a lengthy process) Or have aI PJ misunderstood the instructions. PJ Thanks What about treating the Desktop as the main installation and then running that PC using Remote Desktop / VNC from the Laptop? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Boycott then purchase of V3
Hello Group On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:47:18 PM, wrote: MB Hello WilWilWil! MB On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 5:33 PM, you wrote, in part: W So good developers team with so pitiful sales service... MB Yes. But something got through to them between the almost immediate, MB very bad response to MFPA and the weeks-later rude offering to you of MB a substantial discount for the Upgrade fee. MB So perhaps there's hope? MB I hope MFPA will go to that link which you posted and get v. 3.0.1.33. MB It's deserved, and as you and I just agreed, WilWilWil, only right MB that someone who's used v. 2.12.00 for only 2 weeks before the v. 3.0 MB announcement should have it. [snipped] I d/l v2.x, installed and used it for five days then registered it on 28th August 2004, the email containing the key is dated 28 August 2004, 16:52:16. I emailed sales, reminded them 2 weeks later then 2 weeks after that I found a different email address on their web site and forwarded my earlier mails to that address. I was offered, and accepted, the same discount as WilWilWil. I wasn't delighted but for the sake of a few Euros I didn't think it was worth pursuing, not that I had any grounds for so doing except for goodwill. I have, however, been treated very much better by other s/w companies in similar situations in the past (Borland being worth a mention, they know what goodwill means). So, I don't know if I was the closest to registering just before the new version but they seem to be treating us consistently. (If I had taken advantage of the full thirty day trial I could have had v3 as my first version). To be fair when this fuss first blew up somebody did say that Ritlabs would come up with 'something' -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu Pulldowns Blank
Hello Group On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 1:34:03 PM, wrote: MA Hello all, MA When I click on any of The Bats! menus, the pulldowns are completely MA invisible. But if I move the mouse down the list, the items begin to MA show up. If I close the menu pulldown, then open it again, the same MA thing happens. Hi Michael What O/S, 98X or NT based? Are you running dual monitors? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [the_bat] Re: Menu Pulldowns Blank
Hello Group On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 5:42:11 PM, wrote: MA Sunday, October 31, 2004, 9:56:19 AM, (Internet Time - @705) you wrote: MA Hello Jeff, JG Hello Group JG On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 1:34:03 PM, wrote: MA Hello all, MA When I click on any of The Bats! menus, the pulldowns are completely MA invisible. But if I move the mouse down the list, the items begin to MA show up. If I close the menu pulldown, then open it again, the same MA thing happens. JG Hi Michael JG What O/S, 98X or NT based? JG Are you running dual monitors? MA Sorry about that. I am running Windows XP Pro and not running dual MA monitors. As I mentioned, it only started happening when I added the MA extra memory. I am hoping that it is not a bad memory chip as MA everything is working fine except for that little problem. MA I have Windows XP SP2 running and running The Bat! 3.0.2.4, but as I MA said The Bat! is not the only program that this is happening to. MA Thanks for asking... :) I just wondered if it might be a resource issue on a 9x based PC, or a dual monitor issue that some people have. The only time I have seen this on XP is testing programs I have written that poke into the innards of Explorer's context menu. Perhaps somebody else will have some ideas? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Move From 3.01 Home to 3.01 Pro
Hello Group On Sunday, October 31, 2004, 10:39:37 PM, wrote: MB Hello Michael! MB In the absolute worst case of a non-working application--highly MB unlikely scenario--you can get help here on tbudl. Many very MB experienced people read here and are happy to try to help. I am sure Michael will be relieved to hear that if his email client doesn't work he can get email support here :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Move From 3.01 Home to 3.01 Pro
Hello Group On Monday, November 1, 2004, 12:54:38 PM, wrote: MB But I am still puzzled as to how he will put his Pro key in, when he MB receives it--if I had paid $6 or 6 euros or whatever it was, extra for MB the Upgrade, I would want my Help/About at the very least to say: MB Professional Edition. :) Perhaps it depends on the key? Mine says Professional Edition. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Query] Norton AntiVirus and The Bat!
Hello Group On Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 1:18:19 AM, David wrote: DMD Based upon the progress bar that I see when I send DMD e-mail from other clients, it appears that NAV is DMD not scanning The Bat!'s outgoing messages (and I DMD want to be a good netizen). :-) Of course, NAV DMD does not indicated that it is scanning incoming DMD messages, unless one has a virus, and -- knock on DMD wood -- I have not had this problem. DMD I would be very grateful for any information or DMD suggestions. Hi David I've run NAV 2003 on W2k/XP Home/XP Pro with a variety of email clients while I was looking for a replacement to my much loved Forte Agent. It has always worked 'out of the box' and shows an indicator when scanning out going mail and a much smaller indicator in the task bar (in the form of a small envelope, easy to miss) when scanning incoming mail. I have found it very effective in picking up problems. I don't change any settings when installing it except for the silly scheduling and automatic updates it sets up (it's my PC, I decide when it does what!). I also have Hotmail Popper installed since I use a Hotmail address in news groups. Hotmail Popper also uses Localhost (127.0.0.1) and they work fine together. Do you have anything else running that may affect NAV? Is it set up to check mail (sorry, silly question)? If you have been trying different email apps is it possible that one of them is interfering? It my be worth un-installing any you have tried and don't want to keep (and I found lots in that category!). Have you carried out a system scan with up to date virus signatures just in case it's a virus causing the problem? Otherwise it may just be necessary to work through the settings again although that can be soul destroying. It is worth persevering, it does work but I suppose there may be a combination of apps/settings that confuse it. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Total Commander
Hello Group On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 2:44:47 PM, Mica wrote: MM Yes, that might be very handy when we share our machine. g On my MM machine, Windows is even not visible at all. You firstly have to MM boot in DOS, then in (command line/terminal) Linux, then to MM decrypt some sensitive WinOS files, and reboot to DOS, and MM proceed to Windows. Then, if you want to get/send a mail, you have MM to mount a container with Mail and The Bat, and before you get MM connection you have to decrypt Dial-up Networking. Is that what we can all look forward to in the next version of Windows :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Total Commander
Hello Group On Friday, November 5, 2004, 6:06:15 AM, z5worg wrote: The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files and folders and Hide protected operating system files is also unchecked. But I still cannot open the System Volume Information folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that folder? If not, would you try and let me know? I am simply trying to use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new installation of WinXP); so that if I need to reinstall a clean copy of WinXP, I can simply do a copy from this backup and it would be mostly all configured. [snipped] zzc Thanks for the info. Does that mean that I can have a clean zzc reinstall of WinXP by copying back from the backup copy described zzc above -- without the System Volume Informaiton files? So does the OS zzc create/configure a new System Volume Informaiton ONLY IF I reinstall zzc from the WinXP installation CD? [snipped] I doubt that you can make a backup that you can just copy back in the way you suggest and expect it to work. If nothing else the registry changes all the time and, even if you can copy it (it is always open or in use) it won't be up to date because it will be a snapshot. You'll also need an OS already installed to run TC. The best thing to achieve what you want would be Norton Ghost or Symantec Drive Image. With those tools you take a complete sector by sector copy of the drive and the tool will copy it back sector by sector, it's a good way of keeping a clean install to hand. You need to 'activate' XP before you do this or re-instating it after the days of grace expire will leave you looking at a screen which basically says 'no entry' until you have activated by telephone. On the subject of the dreaded System Volume Information directory - if you have more than one logical drive and want to do a complete clean re-install from CD/DVD then turn off system recovery on all drives before you do the re-install - XP will then empty those folders. If you don't do this then SysVolInfo on all drives apart from C: will be full of useless junk and, as you have discovered, you can't get in the directory to empty it! I realised this part way through an install once, the drives were FAT32 so I could see them after booting from my rescue CD and it took 90 minutes with DelTree to clean them out, I've never done it since :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help!
Hello Group On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 11:21:47 AM, wrote: LJ When I click on the Help Menu Bar option, I get an independent Window LJ titled The Bat! Help and displaying Whats new in version 3. LJ However, the Contents and Index options don't seem to do anything. LJ Have I missed something? Is it time to re-install TheBat! ? Are you using dual monitors? It can sometimes cause odd effects with help - if so pull the window over to the other screen. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Restoring TB from a backup
Hello Group On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 3:50:15 AM, wrote: PJ Hello Roelof, PJ On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 9:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped] PJ Roelof, thank you. I don't know what went wrong. But I appreciate your PJ help in this. This a a general question rather than specifically for Pat. In view of the difficulties people face in restoring TB! is it worth putting a FGA together? I would be happy to draft something for comments incorporating the advice that has been given in this group - although I wouldn't propose using a TB! backup, it seems much easier to just copy the directories and restore the registry keys. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Line Breaks in Emails
Hello Group I have just sent an email to a company with my mailing address so they can send me some goods. I tried to single space the address but every time I hit 'enter' and start typing the text all flows back into one line, it's just happened here - I hit 'return' after I typed 'goods.' and as soon as I started typing again it all flowed back into one paragraph. Is there a way round this annoying behaviour please? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Line Breaks in Emails
Hello Group On Sunday, November 14, 2004, 10:26:39 AM, wrote: ASK Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else ASK on 14-Nov-2004 at 10:56:55 (GMT +0100), you wrote: Is there a way round this annoying behaviour please? ASK Disable the auto-formatting. ASK Global prefs: select Options | Preferences and uncheck the auto-format ASK checkbox that is found in Viewer/Editor | Editor Preferences ASK For each message while writing it: press ctrl + shift + f to en-/disable it ASK or ASK Right-click click the small icon bar right of the cursor position indicator ASK in the message editor's bottom status bar - a context menu appears where ASK you can adjust the setting. ASK HTH Many thanks for the prompt replies :-) Line1 Line2 Line3 It works! -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Netsky Virus
Hello Group This may not be the best place to ask but I am banging my head against the wall... I seem to have picked up the Netsky virus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), despite using the NVidia firewall. Each time I start TB! Norton a/v pops up and says it has found an infected file in my temp folder, NAV then deletes the file. I have scanned the PC (which was freshly built 20 days ago) with NAV, Spybot and Ad-Aware which find nothing. I have also down loaded and used both the F-Prot and Norton versions of the Netsky dis-infector. If it comes to it I will re-install XP, but I was trying to hold off until XP64 is released. Can anybody tell me the mechanics of TB! starting up that causes this file to be written to the temp folder - I am concerned that my MAPI has been hi-jacked. I did un-delete one version of the file from Norton and looked at it in a text editor, it seems to be classic Netsky, an email addressed to me with an attachment. This machine has not been run without the firewall and I don't click on unexpected attachments so I'm mystified as to how it got through at the moment. Any advice would be much appreciated. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Netsky Virus
Hello Group On Sunday, March 27, 2005, 6:36:26 PM, Alexander wrote: I'd say that you do not have an infected computer. Its just that NAV deletes the temporary file before TheBat can put it into its message base. Thus, TheBat thinks something went wrong and does NOT delete the file from the server, and you end up downloading the same message over and over again (and each time TB tries to access the tempfile, NAV pops in and catches it). You should open the mail dispatcher (menu Account | Dispatch mail on server) and delete the offending message from the server. Alexander/Marck Many thanks, as you said the message was sitting on the server so I went in via web mail and deleted it :-) I have a new hosting company for my email and its virus checking doesn't seem to be very effective yet :-( I do try and practice safe hex and I was a bit concerned that something had crept through. Thanks again. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group Apologies if this is way off topic for this group but Norton Anti Virus (AKA as Over Bearing Net Nanny, per Marck) is driving me mad, it is now putting up a dialog every ten second telling me my A/V protection is turned off, which it isn't. I have a paid for copy of F-Prot but it doesn't check email which I feel is quite important nowadays. Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? I doubt I can repair Norton so I am in for a re-install but I'd like to find a decent A/V app first. Many thanks. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group On Friday, April 1, 2005, 4:14:36 PM, Mark wrote: You can try out Nod32 for free and see if it suits you... Many thanks for all the input :-) I have uninstalled NAV (4 separate apps!) and installed the trial of NOD32. In fact I have installed it four times, the first three times I set 'AMON' to start on boot and the PC crashed each time it started. For the fourth install I didn't enable AMON until after the PC booted and it works fine so far. I will re-enable 'AMON' on boot, it seems to be an important part of the package, and see how it goes. Just need somebody to send me Netsky again to see how effective it is. Thanks again for the input. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group On Friday, April 1, 2005, 4:11:27 PM, Alexander wrote: Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 12:05 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? Question is - why do you want to check incoming mail? Isn't it enough if a malicious attachment is caught once you accidentally try to save/run it? The filesystem realtime protection will catch it. Remember, we're using TheBat (and not that other program where its enough to look at a message to get infected by a virus). Fair point but it acts as an additional spam trap to some extent, my new email host isn't as effective at catching spam as my old one. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group On Saturday, April 2, 2005, 6:53:46 AM, Rich wrote: You can try out Nod32 for free and see if it suits you... JG Many thanks for all the input :-) JG I have ... installed the trial of NOD32. ... Just need somebody to JG send me Netsky again to see how effective it is. I doubt you'll have to wait very long! No, five this morning :-( I have installed F-Prot temporarily, I can't get past this 'AMON' lockup, I have reported it to the NOD web site. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: ignore a thread
Hello Group On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, 1:38:58 AM, MAU wrote: That is a long wished and waited for function in TB that no one know if it will ever be implemented. Since a couple of years ago, or so, I use a PowerPro script and some flitters to accomplish this Ingore function for the newsgroups I read with TB. Is it possible to use TB! for news groups? If so are there any set-up instructions available? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate (was: ignore a thread)
Hello Group On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, 12:29:46 PM, Peter wrote: Hi all, on Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:03:48 +0200GMT I wrote: PM ... MyGate by Andrew Perevodchik, http://en.barin.com.ua/mygate. This address is the one provided under Help - About in my copy of MyGate. Like Thomas' link it produces a 404 error. Does anyone know the current URL (if there is one)? I managed to find this: http://en.barin.com.ua/ Moving Sorry, I'm changing hoster at the moment. This won't take more than few days, be back! No date on it, but hopefully he'll do an Arnie :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat crashed and now the folder with my mail folder is not
Hello Group On Friday, April 8, 2005, 9:40:04 AM, Tony wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], A reminder of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBUDL typed on: 08 April 2005 at 10:16:00 GMT +0200 zzc I don't know this command at all. Is this available in the DOS mode in zzc WinXP-Home? And does the fixmbr works on JUST one particular drive at zzc a time? Or the root of the physical disk? I just want to make sure zzc that if fixmbr does work, that it doesn't mess up my other partitions. It is a dos command and you need to boot direct into dos. It will fix a trashed boot block on your main bootable drive ie c:\. You did ask about it in your original post but I doubt it'll help fix your L partition. It shouldn't hurt anything if you try it but don't take my word for it. I think there may be a little confusion here. The original command Tony enquired about was the DOS fdisk /mbr which re-writes the Master Boot Record, and you would need to boot from a DOS floppy or CD to use it. The other command - fixmbr - is available from the XP recovery console (I don't know if this is available in XP Home) but effectively does the same job, i.e. re-writes the Master Boot Record. I believe the MBR is a short piece of code pointing to the OS the PC is to boot from. In any event I don't think it will fix Tony's problem. I have used it a couple of times, usually after playing with Linux as it seems to be the only way to blow LILO away. It is also useful after using a boot menu manager such as System Commander when you need to uninstall it. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looking for suggestions to structure my accounts
Hello Group On Friday, April 22, 2005, 2:33:31 PM, Robin wrote: Batlovers, I have a single email address at which I receive both personal and business email. I use Popfile and a filter to separate the two sets of mail and want to store each in a separate tree of folders. I also want to use separate templates for sending email from the two accounts, although they will go via the same SMTP server. I am looking for suggestions about the best way to separate the personal and business email. I could set up a new account for one of them and set it up to never check mail. That would allow me to use completely separate templates for business and personal outgoing mail. However it would mean I would have to set outgoing mail to immediate send. This is probably not a major problem, but it is not my usual way of doing it. I could have two separate folder sub-trees in one account, but that would appear to make separate templates for business and personal outgoing mail difficult to manage. Using common folders appear to offer no benefit over using accounts. Does anyone else have a similar set up? If so, how do you arrange it? I collect email from 7 different accounts with TB!, a couple of them using Hotmail Popper and the rest direct. I collect mail with Alt+F2 which collects it all and puts it into the appropriate account. Each account also collects mail every 15 minutes or so. I tend to leave stuff in each account although I have a dozen or so folders for stuff I want to keep, specific people, this list etc. Works well for me but I wouldn't be surprised to find we all do it differently! My mail account with Demon gives me unlimited email addresses, [EMAIL PROTECTED], which can be separated with filters. I tend to use this for Internet subscriptions so I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it's not ladies, it's my 'phone account), [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. but it depends what your ISP gives you. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Short Cut Key for Junk Mail
Hello Group I have just installed the Bayesit add in (v 0.8.0) in an attempt to control junk, unfortunately my hosting service doesn't have very effective controls. Is it possible to allocate a short cut key to mark junk mail? I have a hundred or so that would be good for training but I'm wearing my trackpad out :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Short Cut Key for Junk Mail
Hello Group On Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 8:19:03 PM, Stuart wrote: Hello Jeff, A reminder of what Jeff Gaines typed on: May 4, 2005 at 19:55:41 GMT +0100 JG I have just installed the Bayesit add in (v 0.8.0) in an attempt to JG control junk, unfortunately my hosting service doesn't have very JG effective controls. JG Is it possible to allocate a short cut key to mark junk mail? I have a JG hundred or so that would be good for training but I'm wearing my JG trackpad out :-) Hang on for a few days. Once V3.5 is released you will be able to, but not before and not in your version. Many thanks, Alexander and Stuart. I didn't see your responses earlier since Bayesit decided tbudl was spam :-) Apart from that it seems quite effective. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Group On Friday, May 13, 2005, 10:10:28 AM, Steve wrote: A few of you may be aware that I owned a company called Atlantic Coast PLC and for many years we published an email/news client called Virtual Access. We made VA Open Source a few years ago but unfortunately development has been so slow that now the time has come to move on as VA still has very poor html handling and nowadays html is used a lot. I still have VA on the original floppies, and the manual, I seem to remember 'Taz' from the Compuserve forum. It's a pity that development stopped, I don't see lack of HTML handling as an issue though, it gets deleted automatically here. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
My Bat Keeps Dying
Hello Group I have just installed 3.5 pro over my previous 3.0 pro. When collecting mail TB! died, three times, no warnings/errors just disappeared off the screen. I went in to check by webmail and found some spam which I deleted off the server and TB! was fine after that. It seems odd behaviour though, what could be in spam email to kill TB!? Is there a log file I can check or is it possible to turn logging on so I can keep an eye on it? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: My Bat Keeps Dying
Hello Group On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 6:13:49 PM, Roelof wrote: Hallo Jeff, On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:09:54 +0100GMT (17-5-2005, 16:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG It seems odd behaviour though, what could be in spam email to kill JG TB!? Maybe it's some interaction with your spamkiller? (just guessing) Are you using that the rest of us doesn't? I am using the Bayesit plugin, for the first time admittedly. I have looked at the logs but there seems nothing untoward, I suspect TB! fell over too quickly to log anything. I'll keep an eye on the group for any similar reports. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Horizontal line under account names in v3.5
Hello Group On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 2:22:07 PM, Nick wrote: Personally, I'd like to see it used in between accounts and not as an account name underline. Well I thought it was an excellent improvement until I read your mail, now I can't make up my mind if it's in the right place or not :-( -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit Add In
Hello Group I'm still struggling a bit with this plugin (v 0.8.1). It seems to regard everything as spam except this list, which I've managed to whitelist. It's a pain because I am selling my first item on eBay and I'm getting some questions. Instead of going through my inbox and deleting junk I'm going through the junk folder un-deleting stuff that isn't junk :-( Any recommendations as to the best way to make it a bit less aggressive? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayesit Add In
Hello Group On Thursday, May 26, 2005, 9:08:08 AM, Barry wrote: [snipped] Many thanks Vili, MikeD and Barry. I switched to BayesFilter and I'm training it. For some reason TB! is not retaining this add in between sessions, I have to keep adding it at the start of a session, although it seems to maintain its training. I am running as admin on XP Pro SP2, anybody else come across this? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayesit Add In
Hello Group On Thursday, May 26, 2005, 2:31:56 PM, Kevin wrote: Close The Bat! and locate and edit this file with your favorite text editor: Thank you Kevin, that seems to have done it:-) Now for some more training... -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what's new in 3.5.0.17 ?
Hello Group On Friday, May 27, 2005, 3:25:37 AM, Mary wrote: It's looking pretty good and stable. There's a keyboard shortcut now, to use the space bar to advance to the next unread message, while at the same time marking the message you're leaving as Read. Yippee :-)) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello, my email has changed, I can no longer make post to the list
Hello Group On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 6:29:39 PM, MFPA wrote: Hi On Tuesday 31 May 2005 at 1:54:06 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Arjan de Groot wrote: Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] What non-text portions would that be? I could not find any. No, they've been removed :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is it worth upgrading to v3.5.25?
Hello Group On Friday, June 3, 2005, 9:12:22 AM, Robin wrote: Batlovers, Now that v3.5.25 has been released, can anyone volunteer an opinion about whether it is worth upgrading from v3.0.1.33? Are there any significant bugs, issues or other annoyances still left in it? If you want to be sure then better wait three months and monitor this group. We haven't been hit (yet) with the flood of issues that were reported after 3.5.0 (?) was released and it's running fine for me. Whoops, just noticed it's lost my user dictionary in the u/g, does it every time :-( -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Why can't I copy the raw text of a message?
Hello Group On Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:19:25 PM, Tony wrote: I didn't really do it for you anyway, I did for the good of Mankind in general :) In that case you should put your picture in the rogues gallery so we can see what our Saviour looks like :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat on Mac? Tips please...
Hello Group On Thursday, June 9, 2005, 11:58:23 AM, Nick wrote: Hello Dragan, My question here is then - could you recommend an email client for Mac that can do similar things? Don't worry, you're in good hands! The default Mac Mail uses the GNU Mail.app which *I* reckon to be the best all-round mailer out there. Lots of intuitive features (like thread selection) and a very clean look. Just don't expect much help from the Mac forums... it's a different world :-( I second Nick's advice, Mail 2 on Tiger is excellent and its built in spam prevention much better than that available for TB!. I had an iBook for a month but despite 1.25 GB of RAM found it very unresponsive compared to my current Toshiba M300. I also found a lot of problems similar to those arising in Linux, e.g. app a v1.02 only works with OS 2.3 and so I gave up and sold it on eBay (thank God they hold their values). But despite that Mail 2 is superb, better than TB! in many ways. Finding a decent news app will be your problem (have a look at Gemini). -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering for TBUDL
Hello Group On Monday, June 13, 2005, 2:36:50 PM, Darrin wrote: I dont see these options when filtering. Is this for an older version of TB? I think it must be, it even confused me in V2. My TBUDL filter is: Recipient Contains tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com with the action set to move to my TBUDL folder, seems to work OK :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello Group On Monday, June 13, 2005, 5:04:58 PM, Thomas wrote: I agree with this. Every time I go to the ocean, I can actually see that the Earth is a flat disk. And there are never any reports of casualties falling off the edge because all governments conspire to keep such incidents secret... -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inline spellchecker auto correct?
Hello Group On Thursday, June 16, 2005, 5:13:14 PM, Darrin wrote: Hello TBUDL, I thought TB can check the spelling automatically and auto correct many words. I get it to underline words it considers misspelled. But I cant get it to auto correct anything. Something wrong here? I have never seen auto correct in TB!, but I do have red lines under lots of words in this reply. I have just u/g to x.26 and TB! has lost my user dictionary again :-( -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Inbox-known
Hello Group On Saturday, June 18, 2005, 3:00:48 AM, Darrin wrote: Hello Thomas, Friday, June 17, 2005, 8:22:23 AM, you wrote: The Known fitler should be there by default under the Incoming filters. It has a tickbox for Active - maybe yours is not ticked. I checked and nothing. I know how to re-create the known inbox, but how do I re-create the filter? Thanks The condition is: Address Book Contains Sender Action is: Move To The Folder (folder name) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Ancient bug finally revealed!
Hello Group On Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 7:06:46 AM, Allister wrote: Personally, I've never understood the fascination Windows software has with the Registry. What on earth is wrong with properties files? If you give the user a choice where to store them, then proper backups are a breeze and multi-user setups are simple. You'll be glad to hear that Microsoft has come round to this way of thinking, to some extent at least. They have been recommending for some time that applications should keep configuration data in their own configuration files, with the advent of .NET probably an XML file rather than an INI file. I expect that it will take some years for developers to catch up, having learned how to use the registry. The key advantage, apart from avoiding registry bloat, is that apps don't need to be 'installed' if they don't use the registry, you can just copy them to your HD. 80% of my most used apps don't use the registry. They are on my 'D' drive and, after a periodic re-install of XP, they work immediately. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parked Message problem
Hello Group On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 12:25:51 PM, Robert wrote: Hello all, Is this a known issue: when I hit the + in the messages window, to expand the thread, also the [P] Parked trait appears. Interesting, when I hit the plus the branch expands and a search box appears, no 'P' though. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Parked Message problem
Hello Group On Thursday, June 23, 2005, 2:14:22 PM, Robert wrote: Recently, Jeff Gaines squawked: Interesting, when I hit the plus the branch expands and a search box appears, no 'P' though. It is, perhaps, dealing with the respective View-Mode each of us has? *If* a thread is un-parked (no P) then when I click the (+) the thread opens AND a [P] appears at the topmost level . the branches are expanded, the first in the thread has a [P]. Then, when I close the thread, by clicking the topmost [+], the [P] is removed This calls for more wine Robert, apologies, I clearly need the wine :-) I didn't have the parking column on display so it's not too surprising the 'P' didn't show! I have now displayed the parking column and you are absolutely right, clicking on the plus sign causes the 'P' to show. That reminded me why I hid that column. If it's on the left it gets tangled up with the threading symbols. Change your display to move the parking column so it's not the left most column and see how that looks to you. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! and K9
Hello Group I've given up on the spam add-ons for TB!, neither of them seem to work very well. I've installed K9 and set it up for two of my eight email accounts. I am filtering on Subject contains [Spam] because I couldn't find out how to filter on the 'X-Text-Classification' - is this, or something similar, possible in TB! to avoid altering the subject line? Is anybody using TB! / Hotmail Popper / K9? I haven't tried it yet, I'm hoping it will work because Hotmail Popper used port 110 and K9 uses . Many thanks. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! and K9
Hello Group On Wednesday, June 29, 2005, 5:08:49 PM, Roelof wrote: Now you can filter in the sorting office on: Header field - Text-Classification - contains - whatever Thank you, Roelof, now carefully filed away in my help folder :-) It's been awhile since I played with K9, but IIRC you can set it to every free port on your computer. Just make sure that Hotmail Popper does the collecting from Hotmail, K9 from H Popper and TB from K9. OK, I took the plunge and this does seem to work, it's astonishing when you follow the route of an email on just one PC! I must say the signs are good with K9. I guess now some parts of my body will shrink, I'll have to live without a supply of Rolex replicas and my sex life will be crap - buy hey what's different :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! and K9
Hello Group Where have you been? :) The exact same question has been answered two days ago. Sorry, Alexander. I've been sweltering in the awful humidity in the UK and watching all our players being knocked out of Wimbledon :-( -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mod: Top posting (was: Sending Mail automatically using TB)
Hello Group On Saturday, July 16, 2005, 10:45:30 AM, Paul wrote: Apologies for not reading this when it arrived. I'll try to stick to the preferred etiquette! You only feel you really belong here once you've been moderated :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keeping TB! Data Files on a Server
Hello Group
I am having a bit of a play/experiment :-)
I have just built myself a server out of old bits and have attached to
it a Buffalo Terrastation. The plan is to use a Shared Data directory
on the server for all my data and then run scheduled backups to the
Buffalo. Hopefully this will stop me from updating the wrong files when
I switch PC's.
Is anybody running TB! with data kept on a server? The laptop I
use is wi-fi connected - 801.11g- and maintains a pretty reliable connection
to the network.
If anybody is doing this I would appreciate comments on usability. I
guess it's technically possible but every time the laptop goes into
standby it loses its network connection. It re-connects automagically
but only after loads of error messages from Explorer ('My Documents'
is on the server now) - which could be avoided if it was intelligent
enough to wait for the connection before doing anything else.
The laptop doesn't travel so I don't need access to the data while
away from base.
Many thanks.
--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
:Jeff_Gaines:
Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hotkeys
Hello Group I set up a hot key so that pressing 'N' (while focused on the message tree) takes me to the next message. Can I modify this so it also marks the current message read? Can anybody tell me how I did it in the first place. I can't remember where I found the option, sorry :-( -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hotkeys
Hello Group On Monday, July 18, 2005, 3:21:50 PM, Michael wrote: Can anybody tell me how I did it in the first place. I can't remember where I found the option, sorry :-( If I understand your question correctly you need to click on the Toolbar and hit customize. In the Select Container choose the Message List Popup Window (Pop-up) and in the Current Items on the right select Move to Next Unread. That should show you the Hotkeys available and if you are like me, I added the N to the list. Thank you Michael, I reckon I read every menu in view without finding it, I've saved your message in my help file :-) It would be good if I could mark messages read with the same key stroke. I am running a massive re-build of my data disks at the moment and getting a stream of emails advising me of progress, it's a pain to have to leave them on view even for 1 second before they get marked as read. Thanks again :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keeping TB! Data Files on a Server
Hello Group On Sunday, July 17, 2005, 6:10:27 PM, Michael wrote: worked for me, I gave up. Now I use a SyncBack, a scheduled backup program to back up to the server (http://www.2brightsparks.com/index.html). Michael Many thanks for that recommendation. I have been using Smart Sync Pro, I left it running for 30 hours and it only completed 25% of the backup. SyncBack did the full 150GB in seven hours, excellent app :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.50 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Current TB! version?
Hello Group Thanks a mil! Sorry to have been so pedantic about everything! I know how busy you are. :) The easiest way may be to use the BATVERSION macro, I've tried it in this reply. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.5.26 Current version is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Current TB! version?
Hello Group On Wednesday, July 20, 2005, 4:41:51 PM, Mary wrote: But, we were discussing what is the current public version displayed in the TBUDL footers, not what version an individual poster is using. Ah, I'd lost track of that, I don't envy Marck's task :-( Might be nice of Ritlabs could offer him some sort of link to the current release version then he could automate the task. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.5.26 Current version is 3.5.30 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version Numbers
Hello Group I have had an email telling me that version 3.51 is available. I am running 3.5.26 and I'm confused about the numbering. Is 3.51 later than 3.5.26 please? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using 3.5.26 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version Numbers
Hello Group On Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 5:48:59 PM, Alexander wrote: ...and besides that, 51 is of course larger than 5, isn't that obvious? :-D *hehe* Maths is not my strongest subject :-) Thanks! -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.5.26 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hello Group On Friday, July 29, 2005, 4:30:44 PM, Leif wrote: Hello Handsome, What a lovely intro, you never call me Handsome :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and multiple desktops
Hello Group On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 11:07:35 AM, G. wrote: I use virtual desktops, four of them, and all my other applications are happy to dwell on just one of them. Not the Bat, though, which will inhabit all four wherever it is started. This is beginning to annoy me as TB needs to be minimised when switching to another desktop: has anybody else experienced this, and is there something that can be done about it? I'm not using virtual desktops but would like to try, and will report back. Which virtual desktop app do you use? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB and multiple desktops
Hello Group On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 12:29:55 PM, G. wrote: On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 9:17:33 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote: Which virtual desktop app do you use? Altdesk. OK, I've down-loaded and installed it. TheBat! stays on Desk 1 for me, you haven't perhaps set TheBat! up as 'sticky'? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: TB and multiple desktops
Hello Group On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 3:00:42 PM, G. wrote: On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 11:20:27 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote: OK, I've down-loaded and installed it. TheBat! stays on Desk 1 for me, you haven't perhaps set TheBat! up as 'sticky'? Sorry, didn't read your reply properly - no I haven't. Well I made it 'sticky' and it followed me around, then I removed it from the sticky list and it's back to desk1 - and stays there. It's a neat app but I can't reproduce your problem, sorry. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes, and still trying to recover from installing vs 3.5
Hello Group On Saturday, August 6, 2005, 5:11:14 PM, Handsome wrote: How can I get this resolved? You need to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you bought it direct. See: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/contacts.php?phrase_id=854920 -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rogues Updates
Hello Group I have had five emails enclosing an updated 'rogues.zip' dated from 15 August to 17 August. I don't know if the lady whose details have been updated is trying different pictures or if there's something wrong with the auto-mailer, they are all sent to the same email address. Anybody else seen this? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Forwarding HTML w/ v 2.12
Hello Group On Thursday, August 18, 2005, 1:03:00 PM, Spike wrote: Any e-mail that comes only as HTML with no text alternative will remain forever unread by me. Is there a way to filter this spawn of Satan so that HTML e-mail goes straight to the junk folder? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to anew pc
Hello Group On Sunday, August 21, 2005, 10:56:05 AM, John wrote: Need to plan to move all Bat! settings, folders with mail, filters, rego info, etc, etc., to a new pc shortly. If the path will be the same on the new PC you can export the registry branch (run this from a temp directory so it's easy to find the output file): c:\windows\regedit.exe /e thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT This will produce a file called thebat.reg Then just copy everything over to the new PC and copy over then double click on 'thebat.reg' to put the data back in the registry. You can edit the .reg file if the path has changed. There is another method involving exporting the data but I've never used it, will leave somebody else to run through it :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving to anew pc
Hello Group On Sunday, August 21, 2005, 1:18:21 PM, Thomas wrote: Hello Jeff, On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:28:34 +0100 GMT (21/08/2005, 18:28 +0700 GMT), Jeff Gaines wrote: JG You can edit the .reg file if the path has changed. I have a similar question and quote your reply, because I am afraid that is the only solution for me as well. In the office, I have one HD with two partitions, C: and D:. The TB program resides on C: and the mail on the data drive D:. I am planning to install a second HD, with two partitions. AFAIK, this would make Windows assign C: to the first partition on the first HD, D: will be the first partition on the second HD, E: the second partition on the first HD, and F: the second partition on the second HD. It will if you set up a primary partition on the new HD, but it doesn't have to be :-) On the new HD do *NOT* add a primary partition, add an extended partition and logical drive(s) within that partition and then the drive letters will be in a more logical order, i.e. they will follow the physical drives. If you are already using drive letters up to say, L, then the new drive will be allocated the next available letter - but you can change this after the drive is installed. Windows defaults to putting primary partitions on a new HD, I suspect this may be for historical reasons, it's certainly not the best approach nowadays in my view. XP sets up new drives in the same way as DOS, go through each physical drive in order, pick out the primary partitions, allocate drive letters, go back and go through again picking up the logical drives in extended partitions and allocate drive letters. I can't see a reason for having any primary partition apart from the very first nowadays. Come back if that's not clear enough :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Bayesit or Bayes Filter
Hello Group On Sunday, August 21, 2005, 8:33:48 PM, P. wrote: So, BayseIt is definitely not working. I've tweaked the settings and guess I'll wait for the onslaught of spam on Monday to see if that helps. I found BayesIt very poor even after training. I have switched to K9 now and find it much better. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving to anew pc
Hello Group On Monday, August 22, 2005, 11:11:44 AM, John wrote: When installing on a new pc, does the software have to be downloaded from Bat! site? If so, how about registration problems (i.e lost rego data, etc.) or is all of this covered in the Registry Key? It must be in the registry I think, I've moved it from a desktop to a laptop, then to another laptop when the first one broke, then back again when it was fixed. I just exported the registry keys (this is done automatically each day as part of my backup regime), copied over and ran the .reg file. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
