Hi there, here the updated version.
Am 2016-11-10 18:15, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger:
Oops, yes, thank you for spotting this!
It must read 0.125 of course!
Am 2016-11-09 15:21, schrieb Footleg:
This looks potentially very useful, but I have not yet explored defining
sd settings in my survey d
... i made a github pull request to make incorporation easy.
https://github.com/therion/test/pull/6
Howevr, i do not know if that repository is the projects central main code
base?
Greetings,
Beni
Am 2016-11-25 22:17, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
Hi there, here the updated
More extensively, in the centerline block use:
fix R84 10481.661 19219.410 115.967
In addition to that you can tell therion in which system those coordinates
are (again in the centerline block), because unless you do that, therion
operates in an "anonymous" local system. Using cs allows for f
Hello, and merry christmas!
I currently try to correct some old surveys without altering the original
data.
The manual proposes the "revise" command to accomplish this, at least i
interpreted it like this.
The problem with the old data is, that the declination setting is wrong but
i dont ha
Hello,
i get gray hair with metapost while i want to make a line symbol for
ladders, so i can nicely draw them in my maps as the cave have alot of them.
The basic idea i had was, t define a symbol of one "rung" segment (rung and
a little of either sides, like the letter "H") as a symbol pictur
draw rectangle and to add
the parameter as number of steps.
Odesláno z iPhonu
24. 1. 2017 v 23:51, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion :
Hello,
i get gray hair with metapost while i want to make a line symbol for
ladders, so i can nicely draw them in my maps as the cave have alot of
them.
The basic i
Hello again,
my idea somewhat worked... see attached picture.
The ladder segments are overlapping, this is still hacky.
However it gives me the desired result and also works with curved lines.
An optimisation cold be to draw the outer sides just as a single line
following the Path slope, howeve
Hello, thank you for your elobaration on the steps.
The difference to "line:*-ladder" is, that steps are not ladders ;)
this has influences on the legend, for example, as well as that with
"line:steps" it is not correctly tagged in the data (for example if someone
would want to list all scraps
would assume, when each centerline has a date
specification.
The main issue here is, that we have surveys which were taken in the 1950s
and extended with an additional centerline in 2000s.
Am 2017-02-17 23:26, schrieb Olly Betts:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 07:08:48PM +0200, Benedikt Hallinger via
?
Am 2017-02-18 23:24, schrieb Olly Betts:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 10:20:54AM +0200, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
If therion calculates the average position of all fixed points this is
fine.
the cave spans about 5km w/e and about 3km n/s.
Ah, the 100km is total passage length not extent
Clay trees are small treelike structures consisting of clay.
Its called "Lehmbäumchen" in german.
Am 2017-02-21 17:16, schrieb Rodrigo Severo via Therion:
Hi,
Im making a small revision on the translations I did yesterday. Im not
entirely satisfied with some of them.
Whats a "clay-tree" poin
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2017-02-21 14:09 GMT-03:00 Guy Demars via Therion :
And called « sapins d’argile » in french.
Guy
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I am able to export fixed stations and entrances with therion 5.3.15.
They are nicely visible once the button is activated in the aven viewer.
Am 2017-02-22 23:34, schrieb Footleg via Therion:
Therion strips most of the data apart from staions and legs out of 3D
files it generates. Colour by er
I do not think this is a bug.
The way i understand (and use) is that with select/unselect you can define
the data to export for one particular run of the compiler.
So you can say "export all of this map, but exclude xyz".
However, it would definitely be more comfortable to have it like discusse
would be great if it would work in one compiler file.
Am 2017-03-03 14:26, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion:
You are right, Rodrigo, "unselect" doesn't work in any way.
Martin
On Mar 03, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Rodrigo Severo via Therion
wrote:
2017-03-03 4:52 GMT-03:00 Ben
Hello,
i currently have the following immutable centerline:
- immutable.th
survey immutable
centerline -id zug_1
date 2014.11.15
team "Some One" notes
team "Some Other"
team "PersonWhoDidNot Attend"
endcenterline
input extensions.th
endsurvey
--
:07 +0200, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion wrote:
Hello,
i currently have the following immutable centerline:
- immutable.th
survey immutable
centerline -id zug_1
date 2014.11.15
team "Some One" notes
team "Some Other"
team "PersonWhoDidNo
Hello,
i try to generate a PDF with the whole cave rendered with LRUD centerline
data only.
The goal here is to generate a complete picture of the cave (>100km) with
walls generated from LROU data, because i still have very few scraps at this
time.
However therion aborts with an error.
How ca
Hello again,
i try to export some lists and want the titles to appear in german.
for this i added "language de" to my export definition ("de_DE" is not
accepted...).
However, it does not do anything, the text appears still in english.
What am i doing wrong?
Or is the translation still missin
r thconfig file?
m.s.
10. 3. 2017 v 20:27, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion :
Hello again,
i try to export some lists and want the titles to appear in german.
for this i added "language de" to my export definition ("de_DE" is not
accepted...).
However, it does not do anyth
Odesláno z iPhonu
9. 3. 2017 v 22:43, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion :
Hello,
i try to generate a PDF with the whole cave rendered with LRUD centerline
data only.
The goal here is to generate a complete picture of the cave (>100km) with
walls generated from LROU data, because i still
Same result.
I dont know much C, however if i peek into thexptable.cxx, it seems that
there are only fixed strings put into the output. It seems the
translate-method is not invoked, thus no language settings/translations can
be applied.
If someone would add the needed calls, i would happily
, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion :
Same result.
I dont know much C, however if i peek into thexptable.cxx, it seems that
there are only fixed strings put into the output. It seems the
translate-method is not invoked, thus no language settings/translations can
be applied.
If someone would add the
eed to dig into this deeper, but regarding the mailing list, this
issue can be considered done.
Thank you everybody for help, private and public!
You are amazing!
Am 2017-03-11 22:29, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
Hello,
this did not work unfortunately.
However i got a solution.
tself.
I think i need to dig into this deeper, but regarding the mailing list,
this issue can be considered done.
Thank you everybody for help, private and public!
You are amazing!
Am 2017-03-11 22:29, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
Hello,
this did not work unfortunately.
Howev
What is the different between "point dimensions" and "point passage-height"?
If i understand the therion book correctly:
- dimensions is ONLY for the 3D-tube generation and invisible in rendered
maps
- otherwise behaves as if "point passage-height [+ -] would have
been given.
Or are there any
When i do this, i add an -author for the original paper plan and another one
for myself in the scrap.
I feel the original plan author should be mentioned because its his work the
digitalization is widely based on. Here, several persons work on one scrap
(possible at least) and i would add my nam
May i suggest, when altering the rotation speed, please make it
customizable. Do not enforce a static compile time min or max value but
introduce a factor setting so each user may compensate for himself.
Am 2017-03-31 10:34, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
Now this is getting picky I know.
Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 3:34 PM Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
Hello,
in my loch model i get some strange artefacts.
It seems that the further-away objects are rendered in front of the
nearer-in-front objects.
I would expect that the passages far away would be covered by those in
the
front
on of
Therion.
On windows 10, as perfect a lox file as I’ve ever seen!
Maybe it is an Debian 5.3.15 thing?
Bruce
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To: Footleg
Cc: Ben
s are inside out. Do the walls appear and vanish as you
rotate the model? That is a sure sign some of your scrap boundaries are not
right. Common causes are the insides of loops not flagged as outline in, or
walls which cross other walls.
Footleg
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 3:34 PM Benedikt Hallinge
Hello,
when compiling my project, i get an cavern error:
therion: warning -- cavern exit code -- 256
Everything seems to be fine in the map, but what does this exit code mean?
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I found it, the following error is reported by cavern:
### cavern log file
1> Survex 1.2.30
2> Copyright © 1990-2016 Olly Betts
3> /tmp/th24737/data.svx:113:47: Fehler: Standardabweichung muss positiv
sein
4>
*fix 1 --.-- --.--
Thank you very much!
I corrected all my fixes to the right syntax now and it works fine.
Am 2017-04-05 20:02, schrieb Olly Betts:
On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 11:49:54PM +0200, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
The source giving causing it is:
>fix 1.0 x y z 0 0 0
If i remove
Can't wait to see it in debian testing :)
Am 2017-04-05 21:22, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion:
On Github!
No any 1th April!
m.s.
5. 4. 2017 v 20:02, Olly Betts via Therion :
On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 11:49:54PM +0200, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
The source giving causing
Hello,
i have a bunch of Lox files here, that i want to combine with surface data.
I also want to combine all this into one new lox to investigate the caves
relationships.
Is there any possibility to do that without the source therion data, similar
to the survey use method for survex 3D files
files, if anyone is ever tinkering with Loch.
Bruce
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Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2017 8:23 AM
To: therion@speleo.sk
Cc: Benedikt Hallinger
Subject: [Therion] Combining several lox
Hm, can i display the coordinates of entrances somewhere in loch? survex
shows the coordinates of the stations / mouse pointer.
Maybe the dataset i have received is not georeferenced at all; i just
guessed it because i see coordinates on rendered therion maps of the caves,
but of course this cou
Hello,
i wonder why i can produce altitude lines in projected elevation, but not in
extended elevation.
How can i enable the depth lines in xelev output?
(grid-command and friends did nothing)
With best regards,
Beni
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Hi,
let me add that imtoo have issues with the proprietary nvidia drivers.
I was not able to debug this, but all info is on the mailing list.
Probably here is something with the proprietary drivers.
Am 2017-05-22 15:00, schrieb Bjørn Egil Johansen via Therion:
I have a fairly fresh Debian 9 Str
Hello,
is it possible to give a specific bounding box in therion thconfig and to
produce a map clipped by that borders?
With best regards,
Beni
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I am supporting this proposal from my experience.
Am 2017-08-11 15:09, schrieb Footleg via Therion:
Having finally got around to updating my install to 5.4.1 I was trying to
work out how the line colours had appeared in the official builds (Im on
Windows). I see the ini file entries in both xt
Hi there,
i currently draw a very narrow floor meander that has some places where the
walls spread wide open.
Is there a way i can tell line:floor-meander to render on just one side?
The reason i ask is, that i need a differentiation in the dataset between
floor-meander and floor-step for colo
The option to use "alias names" for fixes instead of directly numbers would
be good, this would allow to ship standards with therion and allow the user
to to define custom ones, just like in grade definitions.
Why not extend the grades definition to allow specification of fix std
deviation the
No, i meant the following:
currently one has to give std-dev explicitely:
fix 1.2a 0.5 0.5 0.5
it would be nice to use instead:
fix 1.2a gps
where the term "gps" is some predefined accuracy, like in grade definition
Am 2017-09-11 10:08, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
Benedikt wrote
The
Jesus!
Am 2017-09-16 11:19, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion:
3DS MODEL FROM LOCH:
M.S.
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This could be achieved by some perl or bash.
Maybe also php PEAR::File_Therion is also already capable of doing this.
Maybe you could also just comment the scrap command in the to-be-included
file and place an import statement in the sourcing scrap.
Am 2017-10-08 20:17, schrieb Martin Sluka vi
Hello,
i think the upside-down notation is actually more natural and intuitively to
understand.
Am 2017-11-02 11:05, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
I've just noticed that the latest development snapshot 5.4.1+4369eea seems
to have messed with the altitude legend.
You can see from the scre
Hello,
i agree, the old behavior of sorting is the one i prefer. Sorry k7xed old
euth new behaviour.
Am 2017-11-08 20:02, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
I'll just post the image again.
We are dealing with absolute altitudes, height above sea level, here, as
per the established Therion imp
Hello,
i have a scrap containing a pit signature that is in the wrong place.
How can i move the pit line to a new x/y-position without changing shape or
m8ving all points msnually individually?
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s to correct
positions.
Copy calculated numbers from spreadsheet back to plaint text editor.
Save .th2 file
Manual work:
select point after point and change proper value /s in point coordinates
fields in right side menu.
m.
8. 11. 2017 v 20:18, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion :
Hello,
i ha
It would be cool to be able to cl7ck to a line point, and while pressing
ctrl and move the mouse to m8ve the entire line.
Am 2017-11-09 8:55, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion:
8. 11. 2017 v 20:47, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion :
for the future: it would be very cool to have a nice drag&
Hello Martin,
is the blow limit of 4096 scraps still valid in the current version?
Or is it already fixed so we can use more scraps?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Carl Magnuson wrote:
It looks like the solution is to issue the following metapost command:
warningcheck := 0;
Indeed. The ne
Am 2017-11-28 22:19, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
Hello Martin,
is the blow limit of 4096 scraps still valid in the current version?
Or is it already fixed so we can use more scraps?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Carl Magnuson wrote:
It looks like the solution is to issue the
.
And yes, the limit applies just to the data selected for export.
Martin
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
Maybe another question:
Assume a large cave with thousands of scraps.
When i make a thconfig file sourcing all that data, but using "select"
can select or enter 2
points of vector and move entire line or scrap just by one click. Controls
for this feature are at the end of objects toolbar.
S.
On 9 November 2017 at 11:22, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
It would be cool to be able to cl7ck to a line point, and while
It would be very good if one could add this to the wiki and/or book :)
Am 2017-12-04 0:00, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
Very cool.
If I might expand on the instructions, as I almost did not figure out the
easy way.
* Create or select a point (or line point) that defines the start of th
Thank you very much, i was not aware that it already was in the wiki :)
Am 2017-12-04 12:18, schrieb Stacho Mudrak via Therion:
https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/tips#moving_lines_and_scraps_within_drawing_area
[6]
Feel free to modify it.
S.
On 4 December 2017 at 10:52, Benedikt Hallinger
thdb2d::pp_process_joins(thdb2dprj * prj)
// prida na koniec automaticke joiny
jci = joincandlist.begin();
+ jci = joincandlist.end();
while (jci != joincandlist.end()) {
njci = jci;
njci++;
On 27 December 2017 at 13:26, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
Hello,
for
5000x5000 joins for each line end.
And this is the problem. I have modified your script to add some randomness
to the coordinates (just shift every scrap by random vector) and it solves
the problem.
S.
On 29 December 2017 at 15:42, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
Shouldnt they be
dom vector) and it solves
the problem.
S.
On 29 December 2017 at 15:42, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
wrote:
Shouldnt they be placed at the actual position according to station
coordinates prior joining, ie the scrap point reference coordinates be
local to its namespace?
Am 2017-12-29 11:2
Hello Bruce,
i would welcome the most recent date being top.
Greetings from Germany,
Beni
Am 2018-01-07 0:01, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
The default date colour legend looks like this…
… with the most recent dates at the bottom. As with altitudes (which has
already being adjusted) my
You can also let aven viewer display the loop errors by color, so you get
the information quickly graphically.
Am 2018-01-19 15:19, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion:
If there is active Survex loop closure on the end of log of compilation is
the list of loops and their errors there.
m.s.
19
Another option would be to engrave it into a glass block using laser. Has
someone already done this?
Am 2018-01-31 9:20, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion:
Therion’s Loch viewer is able to export VTK file, which is compatible with
several 3D modeling programs and you may convert it to format for
The uis grades work!
Am 2018-02-23 8:40, schrieb Bruce Mutton via Therion:
Phil
I don't do this much, but here is what I do for a low grade survey.
I put this near the start of the low grade survey file.
centreline
grade BCRA3 # low accuracy
# grade BCRA5 # high accuracy
..
Did you just select the centerline?
Not selecting anything but active selection on the other cave?
Am 2018-03-01 20:37, schrieb Nick Bairstow via Therion:
I have just added a small cave to my main index .th. Everything compiles
but the pdf shows the new cave as shots and splays not as the normal
Ok, well, i found it shortly after my mail.
it works when i give
def l_waterflow_conjectural (expr Path) =
instead of
def l_waterflow_conjectural_SKBB (expr Path) =
sorry for any inconvinience...
Am 2018-09-24 23:06, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger:
Sorry, i want to override the "conjectural" ty
Hello,
i currently try to make the little points in an "intermittent waterflow"
more visible on clay background.
For this i tried to make the points bigger and added to my layout
section:
layout hvho_basic.layout
# more irrelevant stuff here...
symbol-set AUT
# Thicker
Sorry, i want to override the "conjectural" type, not the
intermittent...
Am 2018-09-24 23:04, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger:
Hello,
i currently try to make the little points in an "intermittent
waterflow" more visible on clay background.
For this i tried to make the points bigger and added to my
Hi,
i try to add a layout for showing the question mark texts.
For this i tried the additions from the websites:
a) https://therion.speleo.sk/samples.doc/60.html
b) http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_05/m_054.htm
but neither seems to work. a) produces no change and b) triggers a
compil
endfor;
);
clip tmp_pic to p;
draw tmp_pic;
enddef;
endcode
endlayout
Regards,
Alastair Gott.
alastairg...@hotmail.com,
M: 07931779380.
-
FROM: Therion on behalf of Benedikt
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SENT: 22 December 2018 11:
used 'show continuation text' before?
>
> I just checked one of my projects, and both my continuation layout metaposts
> are working just fine with the latest Therion release 5.4.1+a08b94e
> (2018-12-17)
>
> Bruce
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Therion
Forwarding an off list mail to me that explains
Am 2018-12-24 11:27, schrieb Marco Corvi:
benedikt,
from my tests,
options, eg "-text", are referred as ATTR__text (double underscore),
custom attributes, eg "-attr code", as
ATTR_code (single underscore)
feel free to forward to the list.
thx fo
(0,-0.5u), 0.0, 8);
% restore original labeling color
pop_label_fill_color;
fi;
---
Thank you everybody!
Am 2018-12-26 23:20, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
Forwarding an off list mail to me that explains
Am 2018-12-24 11:27, schrieb Marco Corvi
ill_color;
>fi;
> ---
>
> Thank you everybody!
>
>
>
> Am 2018-12-26 23:20, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
>> Forwarding an off list mail to me that explains
>> Am 2018-12-24 11:27, schrieb Marco Corvi:
>>> benedikt,
>>&
Hi, you can join scraps but not maps. Scraps are not tied to maps in any way,
maps are just „collections“ of scraps. Scraps however are part of a survey.
So what you want is achieved by adding join commands on scraps of subsurveys in
your overall index th file allcaves. You can reference those sc
That would indeed be helpful.
> Am 15.04.2019 um 08:43 schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion :
>
>
>
>> 14. 4. 2019 v 21:15, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion :
>>
>> I do wish these error messages were a little more informative, pointing
>> out where you made a mistake, but I am so glad it was some
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