[tw5] Re: TonyM - Sharing current thoughts and activities in TiddlyWiki

2019-03-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Tony! These are great! I think the core also should add some extra features to carefully handle these. For example a. if you put the type="number, it does not work with min and max values look here as an example https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input/number b. the

[tw5] Re: TonyM - Sharing current thoughts and activities in TiddlyWiki

2019-03-19 Thread h0p3
* https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/4aCyZ3FAq9U * https://philosopher.life/#2019.03.19%20-%20TWGGF%3A%20TonyM's%20Current%20Activities Hey TonyM! Wow! You are working on so much. It's intense. I may not fully understand all of it (sorry, I'm slow, and I'm not an expert or an

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread Jan
Hi admls. I installed it now and I am still fascinated! Great work you did. In the outdated FF38 Browser I use for testing comabilty the Plugin throws some bugs. Syntax error in boot module $:/plugins/admls/volant/globals/volant.js:128:

Re: [tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jeremy I do see its "accurate" as a representation of a kind. Though some of the *colouration is not logical--that is a compounded styling fault* I think--but important to note as it might be addressed? The problem is the demands on the user to 1, grasp its just a representation, not what

[tw5] Re: Getting the value of a field when the known fieldname is a variable

2019-03-19 Thread steve
Thanks, Eric. works perfectly For the rest of us, here is the documentation of this capability: As described in Introduction to filter notation , you can also transclude

Re: [tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josiah To explain it another way, the example diff you quoted earlier was "correct", in that it is an accurate depiction of a set of modifications which will turn the first string into the second. The problem is that what an algorithm sees as a reasonable way to display the differences may

[tw5] Is TW in the Sky supposed to work on Android?

2019-03-19 Thread stefano franchi
I am asking because on my phone it loads the TW file from Dropbox, but it is unbale open any link---it only shows the TW's frontpage, so to speak. Just wondering if it is expected behavior or some issues of mine I should look furter into. Cheers, Stefano --

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Very practically helpful Mark, tx. Josiah On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:23:13 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: > > Ok -- don't panic. You can make more than one tiddler a day by changing > the date stamp format to include other units. Like hours, seconds, > milliseconds. So maybe just workout what you

Re: [tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jeremy I definitely think access to change parameters could be helpful. In the case of SNR one needs a logical consistent representation. It doesn't matter if its very long--so long as its consistent. The biggest problem at the moment is the Diff. Engine creates a mix of representations that

Re: [tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jeremy On this I can specify where it breaks down by examples in detail if you want. I don't understand the code but I can see what it is doing. Let me know if it would be helpful and I will.. Best Josiah On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:45:00 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Josiah,

Re: [tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josiah, Mohammad, The core uses Google's Diff-Match-Patch library by Neil Fraser: https://github.com/google/diff-match-patch It turns out that reliably creating human-readable diffs is one of those tricky problems in computer science that doesn't have a clean solution. The docs for the

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ok -- don't panic. You can make more than one tiddler a day by changing the date stamp format to include other units. Like hours, seconds, milliseconds. So maybe just workout what you want your journal titles to look like in advance. -- Mark On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 12:11:49 PM UTC-7,

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > The problem with the Journal button is that it only makes one entry per > day, right? > Eek! I had no idea. That is NO good. Shouldn't a Journal Button give an exact timestamp? Otherwise why bother? I mean you don't just journal only at 00.01 am. Are you using some other

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The problem with the Journal button is that it only makes one entry per day, right? Are you using some other logging/recording macro or tool kit? -- Mark On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 11:05:53 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Mark S. > > Initially just dates and time stamps. > > In Italy

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread BurningTreeC
Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019 12:08:30 UTC+1 schrieb admls: > > Hi BurningTreeC, > > I hope I can bring a bit of my knowledge in where it's needed >> > > That sounds excellent! There's no pressure of course, but if you want to > collaborate on this, I'd really welcome it. The code is in an

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. Initially just dates and time stamps. In Italy which is currently UTC+1. FYI the idea is initially only to log an experiment. The timing matters. There may be later analyses but no original times should be changed. I'm mainly concerned its gonna get complicated if the timings are not

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No hypotenuse is good hypotenuse? At the moment you create a tiddler, including a journal tiddler, the created field is populated with the UTC date. Is that the field you plan to use for comparison? Or the title field? Will you want to create post-dated entries, that you may not have had time

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark S. I naively believe in the Journal button. All I need to do is press a button that registers NOW (not <>)? All I need know is if a Journal Entry works as advertised. I'd rather not have to deal with the square of the hypotenuse. Josiah On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:14:30 UTC+1,

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread mauloop
Dear TiddlyTweeter, You are correct and JSON bundle could be a practical way to solve the issue once or few times. Actually I have many wikis where I need to load the same customization. Therefore I need to maintain it in a single place and share with many wikis. I found two ways to achieve

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Isn't the issue here overwrite priority? I found that PMario's Bundler plugin good for that since it can force overwrite. Of course you need do it in the correct order. Which is what, in a way, you are saying. My point is do you need bother with a new plugin at all when JSON import can

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi TT, How are you capturing dates and times? If you're recording the output of the <> macro as a UTC stamp into a date field, then you should be good to go. The problem comes if, like S.S., you want to roll your own date format so that you have a date that is human-readable. Then there may

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread mauloop
Last minute thought. Why not to invert the logic in the core (two lines in the code of boot.js): 1. core 2. plugins with no priority defined in alphabetical order 3. plugins with priority defined ordered ascending by priority This way one would have the chance to force plugin

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. & others The many discussions of dates I find confusing. I see solutions to issues I never knew existed. LIKELY because I never bothered on dates/times. I want to avoid issues next month when I need to track through journal entries a project that needs exact recording of day and time.

[tw5] Re: workaround for apache webdav

2019-03-19 Thread Lost Admin
On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 10:27:46 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 1:42:43 PM UTC+1, Lost Admin wrote: >> >> I wonder if that is going to make it into the core saver if/when it is >> determined to be stable. I would happily add compression to my WebDav sites >> at

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread mauloop
Hi Tony, *Examine the changes both plugins make to the shadow tiddler and construct > a third that incorporates both changes and add it to your package so it is > applied last. This condition is only true when you use your package so it > makes sense.* > Your suggestion is good, but not very

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I think this might require a JS macro. I'm thinking of a version of the "now" macro that takes a date parameter (in your own date format). Note that padding a date the way you have will lead to a wrong displayed date unless you live very close to, or west of GMZ 0 . If you live in timezone TMZ

[tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread Mohammad
What Josiah said can be tested on SNR at https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ It seems the Tiddlywiki diff-text works fine for simple cases like alphanumeric but working with more complex cases like regexp, it encounter difficulties. --Mohammad On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 5:08:54 PM

[tw5] Re: TW5: Indirect referencing for external files

2019-03-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
My memory is kicking in. I realize now that I may never have actually used relative paths on AndTidWiki. I *suspect* hat it might work if you tried it on the real AndTidWiki directory, which is burried under something like Android/data/data/comantidwik/... The problem is that AndTidWiki

[tw5] Re: workaround for apache webdav

2019-03-19 Thread PMario
Hi, Also see the INTRO thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/kBfqChfLnRk -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: workaround for apache webdav

2019-03-19 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 1:42:43 PM UTC+1, Lost Admin wrote: > > I wonder if that is going to make it into the core saver if/when it is > determined to be stable. I would happily add compression to my WebDav sites > at that point. > Hi, It would be nice, if you could test it with your

[tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Admls, Please have a look at (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/zpzMoGUGM0g/_u1DT6V4BwAJ) Is it possible to use this feature to NOT overwrite any of core tiddler including those overwritten by Volant? @Mohammad > > Is it possible to have another button arrange floating tiddlers

[tw5] Re: Issues with the Difference Engine

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Repeat for email users ... On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:38:54 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > The Difference Engine is an incredibly useful feature of TW. For writers, > for coders, for versioning systems that are now commonly used. And, more > recently, in tools like Mohammad's regular

[tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao admls (and BTC & JD) and all ... I wanted to pitch in as an end-user focused on practical writing needs. I can see this is a major step in the basic presentation of information. It adds needed components. It, in effect, adds a flexible "dimensionality" to document creation. In particular

[tw5] Re: workaround for apache webdav

2019-03-19 Thread Lost Admin
I wonder if that is going to make it into the core saver if/when it is determined to be stable. I would happily add compression to my WebDav sites at that point. On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 6:41:38 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I did upload BETA 0.1.0 ...

[tw5] Re: TW5: Indirect referencing for external files

2019-03-19 Thread Watt
No, it doesn't show up in my plugin list either. I think it might be a macro that has aspirations to plugindom. If you look in the sidebar tabs > More > System then scroll down you should see a tiddler called plugin/TWaddle/richlinks/main and then several richlinks related tiddlers including

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread admls
Hi Tony, I'm a little concerned about using a commenting solution like bimlas' disqus due to how much the plugins might change in the near future. I don't understand bimlas' plugin very well, but I'm a concerned about comments and threads getting lost if tiddlers get renamed/deleted. Do you

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread admls
Hi BurningTreeC, I hope I can bring a bit of my knowledge in where it's needed > That sounds excellent! There's no pressure of course, but if you want to collaborate on this, I'd really welcome it. The code is in an unfortunate state of not being well-commented, which may make it difficult to

[tw5] [INTRO] WebDav PUT saver plugin which allows server side compression

2019-03-19 Thread PMario
Hi folks, I did just release a WebDav PUT saver plugin , which has a slightly different behaviour than the core. This plugin is *BETA *at the moment. -> Please test and give feedback here or at github [1]. - This plugin takes precedence

[tw5] Re: TW5: Indirect referencing for external files

2019-03-19 Thread Al Thorpe
Hi Watt, Thanks for the reply, this looks interesting but... I seem to have trouble adding plugins. I drag and drop from the link in richlinks, and get a green bar at the top of the target tw5. I get an import tiddler pop-up and it appears to update ok. Save - refresh, but a review of plugins

[tw5] Re: TW5: Indirect referencing for external files

2019-03-19 Thread Al Thorpe
Hi Mark, Thanks for the reply. "When you say "opens in an external window", is this some other app, or does it offer you a slate of apps to open it with?" This is a video tiddler. I get a separate window, almost like a pop-up that the video plays in. On completion, it drops back to the opened

[tw5] Re: workaround for apache webdav

2019-03-19 Thread PMario
Hi folks, I did upload BETA 0.1.0 ... https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/webdav-lm/ It would be nice to get feedback. I did test it with IIS and FF. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread BurningTreeC
> > Hi Simon, Hi admls, > great, volant looks pretty like movable. You know how I longed for that! > Yours Jan > Movable is more a trial in finding usecases, volant achieves making the functionality usable right away, the direction these plugins are going is very pro-user, which I failed to

[tw5] Re: ckeditor does not load plugin BJ Tools VisualEditor

2019-03-19 Thread BJ
Hi Rvphx, you download different versions of ckeditor from https://ckeditor.com/ckeditor-4/download/. The 'full package' contains a color picker. (it is also easy to 'build your own' and select the plugins you want) can just put in the path to the lib in the includelib tid (example path is a

Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing 4 New Plugins (sort of)

2019-03-19 Thread Jan
Hi Simon, Hi admls, great, volant looks pretty like movable. You know how I longed for that! Yours Jan Am 18.03.2019 um 23:36 schrieb BurningTreeC: Hi Jan, Thank you! It has a long way to go yet, but I think it is promising! At the moment it doesn't seem to get touch-gestures

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread TonyM
Looks like this issue may be reduced in future https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/zpzMoGUGM0g If the difference is about widget changes. Regards Tony On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 4:09:25 AM UTC+11, mauloop wrote: > > I have a bunch of tiddlers that I use to import in every

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread mauloop
Thanks, Matt and Jed. You've been very kind and exhaustive. Now it's clear to me what happened and why I had to force priority for certain tiddlers and not for others. Regards, )+( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: Same shadow tiddler in different plugins: a question about priority rules

2019-03-19 Thread TonyM
A suggestion, Examine the changes both plugins make to the shadow tiddler and construct a third that incorporates both changes and add it to your package so it is applied last. This condition is only true when you use your package so it makes sense. To do this take a vanila wiki, an use a

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread TonyM
S S, I would store the date in the full serial number such that you can use the view widget date format when needed. You could accept a year value then append the necessary number of zeros as desired when saving into a date field. I suggest - *Do not call it a date field unless it is in

[tw5] Re: My DATE is misbehavin'

2019-03-19 Thread TonyM
No Problems with Journals. I updated the journal button to include a full "serial" date when created in a journal-date field that I use rather than trying to decode the Journal title. I then use the view widget to present it in any desirable format when I need to. Ask me if you want the code.

[tw5] Re: Getting the value of a field when the known fieldname is a variable

2019-03-19 Thread TonyM
Steve, In the example you give, you are not closing $vars or one of the $list statements, so it is not clear where the result of either should be available. I recommend using indentation to start with. <$list filter="[title[title:tiddler-a]has[tiddler-b]]"> <$vars myName={{!!my-name}}>

[tw5] Re: Getting the value of a field when the known fieldname is a variable

2019-03-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 10:48:24 PM UTC-7, st...@sunypoly.edu wrote: > > I'm having troubles with the value of a field to render correctly. It's a > bit hard to explain, so I built a quick demo (below) that can be pasted > into any wiki (such as tiddlywiki.com) -- it will create two