[tw5] Re: What other tools compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

Keep is popular. I did look into getting tiddlywiki into a browser side bar in the past. I believed it worked in FireFox, but if not universal it is less interesting. That is the advantage of keep if you use a few of googles tools. Tones On Thursday, 22 July 2021 at 13:34:37 UTC+10

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

Charlie, Yes that is a very good idea if we build a search based permalink button, if could even be called a 404 tiddler with search or "did you mean" list (to match the missing page in html error code). But when I think about it if one uses the share button will there ever be a not found

Re: [tw5] I broke the json pre-release :|

Mario, I am glad someone concurs. For me with my de facto standards and the new freedom, if a field name looks like a tiddler title it possibly is. Do you think many ancient and / or unsupported plugins will break?,. if they use fields even extensively the issue will only be if they are used

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

Yeah, I only meant the building of that part you mentioned in the early part of your post, i.e.: *a tiddler with the "permalink" field=1* *the url wiki-url.html#:[permalink[1]] * That was the only thing I had previously played with, and I thought you meant to only build that, not all of the

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

Charlie, Yes, very similar, It is less about that working example which illustrates why we need not put much effort to obtain what is being discussed, but I do go on to discuss related issues and opportunities, such as creating bookmarks, did your reference solution include a share button for

Re: [tw5] I broke the json pre-release :|

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 3:24:54 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote: > However am I the only one who still intends to keep field names to a > defacto naming standard such as i-am-afield no caps or spaces? so It is > easy for me to tell field names apart from text and titles! > No -- you are not.

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

I've never used that link (to a specific post) feature. That's a new trick for me. Thanks! https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/nEDB3zRBALY/m/z0BXBncwBAAJ Well, I didn't' spend any time making it pretty ... On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:29:08 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: > Charlie, > > I

[tw5] Re: What other tools compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

I'm thinking it largely depends on the "ecosystem" one may be living in. Seeing as I've sold my soul to Google, Google Keep is my goto quick note taker. I can access the full screen Google Keep, sidebar Google Keep when I'm in the other Google Apps, and have the Google Keep Chrome Extension,

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

Charlie, I am not sure. I can't find that specific reply in this thread. Can you give me a link from the actual reply please? I expect its something similar but with a different scope. Thanks Tones On Thursday, 22 July 2021 at 13:12:58 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: > Silly question: are

[tw5] Re: Seeking general feedback on Grok TiddlyWiki

Soren, I have not used it much yet as I am already a super user so possibly not in the target audience. Although I am sure I can learn a lot from it, why it may be good for less expert users is its "narrative quality", which may not help me. Users of you manual can read through the story

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

Silly question: are you suggesting you are going to build what I already built and mentioned a little earlier in this thread (Jul 20, 2021, 10:09:07 AM) ? On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 10:17:10 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: > Springer et al, > > Forgive me for repeating myself, although a lot of

[tw5] Re: tidders created this week

Mohamad, Yes, I have used the days(-7) before but that is a sliding last 7 days. useful in its own right, but not always what you want. Consider using the view date format as barro said, or with the more recent versions the format operator

[tw5] Re: What other tools compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

Me too like Brian, Keep/tiddlywiki however I expect this to change to return to my DS Notes, or mobile tiddlywikis. A worthy discussion, and I am keen to hear others response's. I don't concur with your statement Si, as I think I said before *In my opinion a major weakness of TiddlyWiki is

Re: [tw5] I broke the json pre-release :|

I am glad you are onto this bug, spaces in fieldnames, However am I the only one who still intends to keep field names to a defacto naming standard such as i-am-afield no caps or spaces? so It is easy for me to tell field names apart from text and titles! Of course I look forward to naming

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

Springer et al, Forgive me for repeating myself, although a lot of interesting ideas, I believe these to be *non-problems.* A simple solution is available here. an Example would be an alternate button to simple permalinks, I think someone else used a share icon. When clicking this on a given

[tw5] Re: RFC: Building a macro solution for top-to-botton

Tones, I look forward to checking out the focus tiddler tool. Does it already exist in some public form? (If so, sorry I missed it.) I agree that there are lots of different workflows that might call for variations / different priorities. -Springer On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:04:21 PM

[tw5] Re: RFC: Building a macro solution for top-to-botton

Eric, Wow, having the history in the toolbar (without needing sidebar open) is likely to do most of what I need, though it's still mouse-driven. I could even imagine making a variant that *closes* the current tiddler while returning to some prior tiddler. So I'm likely to include it in

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 10:38:28 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: > So, you have to add manual config even though it's set up in the relink > plugin config? Since your rename is happening outside of the Streams UI, yes. If you trigger a rename using the built in affordances, it is handled

[tw5] Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

About obsolete permalinks: Surely a variant of the relink plugin could help maintain bread-crumbs for obsolete links: Whenever relink does its thing, have it offer to create a dictionary-tiddler entry pairing old-name and new-name; then have a filter-condition ViewTemplate element show up at

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

So, you have to add manual config even though it's set up in the relink plugin config? It might be helpful if this was mentioned in the installation tiddler. Most people are going to assume that if they have the relink tiddler that they're good to go. Thanks! On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

@Mark S $:/config/RelinkOnRename is in fact not enabled by default on the Streams site. I'll ensure that is next time I push an update. For now create $:/config/RelinkOnRename with a text field value of yes On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 10:12:02 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: > Yes. I'm using

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Yes. I'm using direct from your site. On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:46:06 AM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote: > @Mark S > > Is $:/config/RelinkOnRename set to yes? > > Streams does add configuration for Relink to act on the stream-list field: > [image: Screenshot 2021-07-21 204538.png] > >

Re: [tw5] I broke the json pre-release :|

I believe this check for field names is the cause: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/d455072f13dd00955ae82d62d2d6e44581bdba9e/boot/boot.js#L1606 On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 9:34:54 PM UTC+2 Saq Imtiaz wrote: > @Jeremy regarding this bug, I think it is related to having a space >

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

a new icon, improved readme, everything else is the same -> http://fastfreddy.gitlab.io/streams-fusion/ . should help interoperability with streams-to-text addon; though will only be able to test later @saq agreed; not ideal. That is the reason my plugin only inserts the wrappers in case a node

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Yes @Fred : this does indeed work... Though there is no streams-to-text addon in Saq's instance, so i'm guessing that's where the conflict lies. Anyway: i think i can deal w/ this conflict, so... All good Fred; your plugin's a real gem! Walt On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:02:04 PM UTC+1

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

With regards to exporting a stream as a wikitext list, I have never pursued the option involving wrapping things in DIVs because the resultant output is quite difficult to read and edit, at which point just outputting HTML might be cleaner. However one option that might be worth investigating

[tw5] Re: Excising Large Outlines in TW

@David I have been keeping my eye on the Subsume threads and this plugin may be what I'm looking for. Between my naiveté of TW and, for the moment, a rather nebulous pedagogical project, I am not convinced I know what I'm asking, but I appreciate the reply nonetheless. @ Mark S. You are

Re: [tw5] I broke the json pre-release :|

@Jeremy regarding this bug, I think it is related to having a space character in a field name. At https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/empty.html Create a new tiddler called "test" with a field name "my field" with a value of "hello". Save and open the resultant file. You get a blank white

[tw5] Re: What other tools compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

I use Google Keep to capture thoughts on the fly on my phone. When I get back to my laptop, it's easy to copy and paste from the Keep web interface into TW On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7 Si wrote: > This question was prompted by a discussion over in the thread on >

[tw5] What other tools compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

This question was prompted by a discussion over in the thread on incremental note-taking . In my opinion a major weakness of TiddlyWiki is that it is not well suited to quickly capturing information on the fly with minimal

[tw5] What other tools do you use that you feel compliment TiddlyWiki well? [discussion]

This question was prompted by a discussion over in the thread on incremental note-taking . In my opinion a major weakness of TiddlyWiki is that it is not well suited to quickly capturing information on the fly with minimal

[tw5] Re: Seeking general feedback on Grok TiddlyWiki

To start: I don't have any coding background. I've been using TiddlyWiki on-and-off for a few years with Classic and TW5 from a fairly strict end-user perspective while only messing with stylesheets and others' plugins. Over the last year I've started trying to understand more of the program

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

well, Saq releases faster than I can type. @walt again: can you confirm that doing these steps directly on Streams' page work for you? 1. drag the streams-fusion plugin from http://fastfreddy.gitlab.io/streams-fusion/ onto https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/ and install 2.

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Streams 1.2.22 is now live and should allow other plugins to add buttons at the end of a stream. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

@walt again: can you confirm that doing these steps direclty on Streams' page work for you? 1. drag teh streams-fusion plugin from http://fastfreddy.gitlab.io/streams-fusion/ onto https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/ and install 2. move the Streams-fusion shadow tiddler

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

@walt; hmm I'll have to experiment a bit more this evening. I have not tried to run both Jan and mine in parallel, though I will. my next version will have a different icon. I found a nice one on flaticon. Streams 1.2.22 is a future version, tongue-in-cheek, based on the github issue I put in at

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

@Mark S Is $:/config/RelinkOnRename set to yes? Streams does add configuration for Relink to act on the stream-list field: [image: Screenshot 2021-07-21 204538.png] On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:35:24 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: > Trying streams. I notice that when I change the name of a

[tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote: > @Saq: As shared in another post > i've > been too busy farming lately to think about this -but when i do get a > chanc, the focus Q is: how can i use this

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

@Mark: probably want the https://flibbles.github.io/tw5-relink/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fflibbles%2Frelink-titles add on also. On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 13:35, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Trying streams. I notice that when I change the name of a tiddler, it > drops

[tw5] Re: Excising Large Outlines in TW

The official slicer edition does pretty much what you describe https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/text-slicer/ . But it uses a complicated relationship between the resulting tiddlers that may be difficult to manipulate. Notowritey (https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html) allows you to

[tw5] Re: Excising Large Outlines in TW

My apologies. A cut-and-paste error compromised a link in my original post. My public TW is here (https://markcubberley.github.io). On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:06:42 PM UTC-4 Mark Cubberley wrote: > I have been using Soren’s Grok TiddlyWiki and his

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Hey @Fred: I've tried to install in my desktop TW instance, and am having some trouble. What i did was: 1. Installed your plugin (it's there and active, according to control panel); 2. Upgraded my Streams plugin from v1.2.19 to 1.2.22 (/notetoself: must keep closer tabs on Saq's

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Trying streams. I notice that when I change the name of a tiddler, it drops out of the original list, apparently because *relink* doesn't operate on the streams-list field. Is there a tweak to fix that? On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:46:03 AM UTC-7 fred@gmail.com wrote: > I think I'll go

[tw5] Re: Excising Large Outlines in TW

I doubt this fully addresses your question, but just so you are aware: my new Subsume plugin allows you to excise items as both links and detail elements, and thus create an outline in which you can view any number of levels from the top level, or "zoom in" to any level using the link. There

[tw5] Excising Large Outlines in TW

I have been using Soren’s Grok TiddlyWiki and his Zettelkasten shell over the last several weeks. Most of this time has been just getting stuff into TW and seeing what happens (or doesn't and trying to figure out why). I have not spent any time creating, connecting, etc.. The product of my work

[tw5] Re: Incremental note-taking (article/discussion)

TW Tones wrote: > Have you tried post it notes in software on the desktop? even google keep > starts you down a path which eventually overwhelms you.. You quickly > discover why they (post it notes) are the wrong tool in many cases, and its > not because they are hand written or on paper. >

[tw5] Re: tidders created this week

Hi, not exactly following , can you please clarify more what you mean? On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:07:20 AM UTC+2 barro...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm thinking of the SO-8601 week number of year of one the date formats ( > https://tiddlywiki.com/#DateFormat ) which would allow working with >

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

I think I'll go ahead and change my icon in my next release for users who may want to use both. Would I get away with just changing the colour? Any SVG artist out there? On Wednesday, 21 July 2021 at 09:42:05 UTC-4 Frédéric Demers wrote: > Hi Walt, thanks for the kind words. > > The only side

[tw5] Re: Incremental note-taking (article/discussion)

Ha Ha, A photo frame may have being better and cheaper. Have you tried post it notes in software on the desktop? even google keep starts you down a path which eventually overwhelms you.. You quickly discover why they (post it notes) are the wrong tool in many cases, and its not because they

[tw5] Re: Building a list of tabs dynamically in a performant manner

Oops; I must add the tab template contains <$tiddler tiddler=<>> <$transclude mode="block" /> and each tab contains <$list filter={{!!filter}}> The tabs work stand alone Tones On Wednesday, 21 July 2021 at 23:55:11 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote: > Soren, > > Given this thread, I am not sure if

[tw5] Seeking general feedback on Grok TiddlyWiki

Hi everyone, I know quite a few people on here have been reading at least some of my book Grok TiddlyWiki . While I've gotten quite a bit of specific feedback submitted through the built-in feedback mechanism, I've been coming up short on overall impressions

[tw5] Re: Building a list of tabs dynamically in a performant manner

Soren, Given this thread, I am not sure if I am on track here, but reading your Original post it seems so. As I understand it you want to use a filter in a tab tiddler to determine if it should have the tab displayed. The thing is the tabs macro is not designed for conditional tab display, it

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Hi Walt, thanks for the kind words. The only side effect of running both in parallel would be the appearance of two identical buttons that don't behave the same way... (I think) This problem could easily be avoided if I used a different icon, but I am not super creative and Jan's icon is just

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

Nice job, @Fred; it renders outlines from Streams not only faithfully, but beautifully! One question, before i install this in my primary desktop wiki: you say in your Credits that it borrows from -and is incompatible with- Jan's streams-to-text addon ... Does this

[tw5] Re: Building a list of tabs dynamically in a performant manner

Saq, the intermittent refresh every 5 seconds updates a clock and Pomodoro timer. The reason it's puzzling is that it doesn't appear by default in the public edition. If you're curious, tick the "clock" checkbox in the FeatureFlags tiddler. I'll give the :filter version a try later. I suspect

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

ok, here's a beta streams-fusion addon: https://fastfreddy.gitlab.io/streams-fusion/ please note the troubleshooting step is required until the next Streams release; beta users beware very open to constructive feedback; and/or different ways of shipping such as rolled in the Streams plugin

Re: [tw5] Re: NoteTaking in Streams - hierarchy-preserving flattening in wikitext

That is definitely an oversight from when I added that at Jan's request. If you open an issue on Github, it will be resolved for the next release. On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 3:15:33 AM UTC+2 fred@gmail.com wrote: > @saq > quick question: am trying to package my addon, am a bit of a

[tw5] Re: Building a list of tabs dynamically in a performant manner

Hi Soren, glad that was helpful. When I worked on performance improvements for Streams a few months ago, the biggest gains were from simplifying the widget and DOM structure, and replacing macros with transclusions, rather than from optimizing filters. I took a brief look at your wiki just now

[tw5] Please raise my baby (Subsume)

Hi everyone, As many of you know, I am a pastor. The few things I have done for TiddlyWiki have been side projects, cobbled together with what limited knowledge I have (and with lots of help from all of you, thank you very much!). And I have undertaken them for my own needs, and shared freely

[tw5] Re: Incremental note-taking (article/discussion)

ludwa6 wrote: > Still: i find it hard to forbear from changing names to reflect changes in > my thinking and/or popular usage. A constant struggle! > The whole PERMALINK thing is a bit of a nightmare. A factor is "social evolution". The first book was printed in 1454

[tw5] Re: Incremental note-taking (article/discussion)

cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: > For fleeting notes, I'm thinking of more often making use of my > Chromebook's dictation accessibility feature so that I can dictate my notes > in Keep when it makes sense to have individual notes, or maybe just add > notes in a Google Doc so that I don't have to

[tw5] Re: Incremental note-taking (article/discussion)

Ciao TW Tones Tones wrote: > Yes, Dictate directly into tiddlywiki.com from my android works after > hitting the mic icon on the keyboards. Right! I think you will find recent Android/Chrome very good at both VOICE and WRITING directly into TW. It is actually becoming usable. At last!

[tw5] Re: Incremental note-taking (article/discussion)

Ciao Soren Bjornstad Soren Bjornstad wrote: > *TT,* I like your phrasing of the “category error” involved in applying > one notes system to everything. There are likely very few people who have > needed to work with notes of such a wide variety of types that they can > speak confidently on

[tw5] Re: Random tiddler viewer tiddler

Thank you very much Soren for showing me where the shuffle operator plugin is. I saw mention of it in another thread and that it was to be included in a future version of TW. This will be interesting, might also be useful for my sidebar Internet radio and jukebox*. Does the shuffle operator

[tw5] Re: tidders created this week

I'm thinking of the SO-8601 week number of year of one the date formats ( https://tiddlywiki.com/#DateFormat ) which would allow working with actual calendar weeks. Does filter operators and search work with the different date formats or would week number have to be an user created field for