[tw] CreatePath Fails on Network Drive v2.5.2

2009-08-04 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Problem: Version 2.5.2 fails to save backup on a network drive in a Windows domain environment with IE7. I've got two empty TiddlyWikis. One is v2.5.0 and the other is v2.5.2. I have saved each in the same folder on a network folder (i.e. \\servername\sharename\foldername). I have defined

[tw] Re: CreatePath Fails on Network Drive v2.5.2

2009-08-04 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
twFile.html, renamed to twFile.hta works SOMETIMES. FileSystem.html, renamed to FileSystem.hta works ALWAYS. twFile.hta works when accessed via Y:\Kevins-Useful-Pointers \twFile.hta. twFile.hta fails when accessed via \\servername\sharename\folder name with spaces\twFile.hta. I don't know

[tw] Certificate Expired - Can't Save Changes With Java 1.6

2010-03-30 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I started getting certificate errors on TiddlySaver.jar this morning. Chrome with Java 1.6 simply refuses to run TiddlySaver.jar. By disabling Java 1.6, it reverts to using Java 1.5, and that permits me to ignore the certificate error. Is there a newer TiddlySaver.jar that is signed with an

[tw] Re: Certificate Expired - Can't Save Changes With Java 1.6

2010-03-30 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'll answer my own question. Yes, downloading the newest tiddlysaver.jar from tiddlywiki.com fixes the problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[tw] Tiddlywiki5 with Tiddlers in Tabs

2017-03-21 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
How do I get Tiddlywiki5 to open tiddlers with tabs across the top of the page, instead of opening new tiddlers below the current one? I've been out of touch with TW for a few years and things have changed a bit. ;-) I've been using a TW I configured years ago. Now, I'm trying to upgrade to

[tw] TiddlySpot Wiki, Local Backups

2017-04-04 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'd like to run a TW5 on TiddlySpot, with backups to the local disk, with auto-save enabled. Motivation: I need to share the TW between my work and my personal laptop, and TiddlySpot enables that. I'd like an up-to-the-minute backup on a machine I control, and local disk backup enables that.

[tw] Re: Keystroke to Close Current Tiddler in TW5

2017-06-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
While viewing. On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 3:14:38 AM UTC+2, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: >> >> How would I implement a keystroke to close the current tiddler in TW5? >> > > Do you mean while editing? saves ... closes edit mode. > > -m > -- You received this m

[tw] Keystroke to Close Current Tiddler in TW5

2017-06-19 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
How would I implement a keystroke to close the current tiddler in TW5? I have a plugin which does this for TW classic, and I really miss it in TW5. Tnx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[tw] Disable CameCaseLinks in TWC-formatted Tiddlers in TW5

2017-09-19 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Oh my. I imported 700+ TWC tiddlers from a wiki which has CamelCaseLinks disabled via a plugin. Of course, that plugin won't work in TW5, and the TW5 control panel setting to "Enable automatic CamelCase linking" does not disable CamelCaseLinks in tiddlers marked type = text/x-tiddlywiki. How

[tw] Hide UnknownUser

2017-09-19 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'd like to suppress the display of UnknownUser in the tiddler header. I just imported 700+ tiddlers from TWC, where I used to have them suppressed. I'm not asking how to tell TW5 what my user name is -- I just want to turn off the display of the user name in the tiddler sub-header. Thanks!

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

2017-09-21 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
a > little bit gilded. > > Mark. > > On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 6:51:48 PM UTC-7, Kevin Kleinfelter > wrote: >> >> One of my main use-cases for Tiddlywiki is to capture my configuration >> when I build/rebuild a machine. In the old days, on a fr

[tw] Re: Disable CameCaseLinks in TWC-formatted Tiddlers in TW5

2017-09-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
ot;) rules[n].match=".^"; > } > } > catch (e) {} > > > all the best > > BJ > > On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:36:10 AM UTC+2, Kevin Kleinfelter > wrote: >> >> Oh my. I imported 700+ TWC tiddlers from a wiki which has CamelCaseLinks >

[tw] node.js - Full Function Via 127.0.0.1 and Read-only Via Other IP

2017-09-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
It would be real handy if *I* could edit my node.js TW, share links to it, and block the sharers from updating. I understand that I can export the site as HTML and publish that HTML file, but I've got lots of images. 99.9% of the time, I only need to say to someone, "Here's a permalink.

[tw] Re: Getting Images Into node.js Tiddlywiki

2017-09-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
s the path that it is in, not the path from the folder it is in. On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 12:25:19 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > I'm trying to migrate from TWC to TW5. I'm struggling to get my library > of .png images into my node.js Tiddlywiki. With TWC, I had my html file

[tw] Getting Images Into node.js Tiddlywiki

2017-09-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm trying to migrate from TWC to TW5. I'm struggling to get my library of .png images into my node.js Tiddlywiki. With TWC, I had my html file in a folder, my images in a sub-folder named images, and I referenced them with [img[./images/image-name.png]]. After reading assorted postings,

Re: [tw] Re: Is there a permanent TiddlyFox solution?

2017-09-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
One of my main use-cases for Tiddlywiki is to capture my configuration when I build/rebuild a machine. In the old days, on a fresh OS, I could - login - download from tiddlywiki.com - And begin capturing my config Or I could copy my existing TW knowledge base from a backup, and

[tw] Re: Disable CameCaseLinks in TWC-formatted Tiddlers in TW5

2017-09-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Thank you for your reply. >From what I've read, there is no automated process to mass-convert TWC tiddlers to TW5 (or Markdown). With 700 TWC-formatted tiddlers to convert, I just can afford to take a week off from work and lovingly hand-convert each one. As I have a need to update content

[tw5] Save and Continue Edit

2018-05-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
How would I go about adding a Save-and-continue-editing button? Or an auto-save-every-60-seconds? I often open a Tiddler and accumulate data into it throughout the day. If I get a browser crash or just a twitchy finger clicking the wrong button, I lose my accumulated content. I'd like to

[tw5] Re: Save and Continue Edit

2018-05-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Thank you. This sounds like exactly what I want. However, when I try to use it, I don't see that it changes the behavior of my wiki. (I am using a node.js served wiki.) Whether it is enabled or not, TW appears to constantly save whatever characters I typed to "Draft of ". If I reload the

[tw5] syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - Error retrieving skinny tiddler list: XMLHttpRequest error code 0

2018-05-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm getting frequent "syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - Error retrieving skinny tiddler list: XMLHttpRequest error code 0" errors. I run 3 node.js Tiddlywikis in 3 browser tabs, continuously. Often, after I wake my laptop from sleep, they all three report this error. I haven't observed any data

Re: [tw5] syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - Error retrieving skinny tiddler list: XMLHttpRequest error code 0

2018-05-09 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
rrors and expected errors, so TiddlyWiki > currently dutifully displays them to be on the safe side. My own habit at > the moment is to refresh the browser tab when I return to one with such > errors. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > On 8 May 2018, at 01:18, Kevin Kleinfelte

[tw5] Is the Entire Wiki in Browser Memory With node.js?

2018-05-10 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
If I'm using the node.js edition of Tiddlywiki, it is storing the tiddlers in individual files on the server's file system. Is it loading only the open tiddlers into the browser, or is it loading every tiddler in the wiki into the browser? i.e. If I have a 1,000 tiddler wiki served by node.js

[tw5] Extract Tiddler Files From HTML Tiddlywiki

2018-05-10 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
If I have a stand-alone HTML Tiddlywiki, is it possible to run a command line to extract the tiddler files which would be the result of running the GUI import into a node.js TW? Excluding system tiddlers... I see

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-11 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Backups are a concern for me too. Since it is the node.js version, every tiddler is in the file system. Right now, I'm vacillating between three options: - A shell script (or batch file) which runs as a scheduled task to zip up the tiddler folder. In an unrelated project, I use such a

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-11 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
If the name is not yet permanent, perhaps "BobPlugin" would meet both goals. It is still Bob, and it adds a degree of uniqueness. Or if you really want unique, BobCarty. On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Jed Carty wrote: > Every time I gave a descriptive name to what I

[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-05-05 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
The material theme always has the sidebar closed on initial page load (for a node.js TW). I'd prefer it always open. Curiously, this behavior is backwards from the built-in themes. I understand that state tiddlers are not persisted with a node.js TW, so I tried

[tw5] Re: Stuck On Apache Proxy to node.js TW

2018-05-18 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Found it. Since TW puts encoded slashes in the URL, one must use the following Apache directive: - AllowEncodedSlashes On On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 9:35:10 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > I set up a reverse proxy with nginx in front of a node.js TW, using SSL > and b

[tw5] Stuck On Apache Proxy to node.js TW

2018-05-17 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I set up a reverse proxy with nginx in front of a node.js TW, using SSL and basic auth. It worked reasonably well. I pulled out nginx and put apache 2.4 in its place. It fetches the initial page, but it soon throws a 404 on a PUT of $:/StoryList. According to the Apache log, it receives

[tw5] Editing Problem on Kindle Fire

2018-07-01 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm unable to edit old TW5 content on my Kindle Fire. When i press the edit icon, TW switches to the editor. It lets me enter new characters, but I can't backspace over existing characters or otherwise replace them. A real Handy use-case for TW on a Kindle is to run TW in a browser (to a

[tw5] Re: Editing Problem on Kindle Fire

2018-07-01 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 9:58:51 AM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > I'm unable to edit old TW5 content on my Kindle Fire. When i press the edit > icon, TW switches to the editor. It lets me enter new characters, but I > can't backspace over existing characters or otherwise rep

[tw5] Re: Anyone Currently Using MathJax with node.js TW

2018-05-01 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
trick is to use the manually-created files in the plugins directory, not to create a startup tiddler. It looks to me like maybe there are no tc-story-river nodes at the time the code is executed as a startup tiddler. On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 5:23:33 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > &g

[tw5] Anyone Currently Using MathJax with node.js TW

2018-05-01 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Is anyone *currently* using MathJax with the *current* node.js TW? What's the secret sauce? When I try http://mathjax-tw5.kantorsite.net/ directly, I get proper rendering but also an error "Uncaught TypeError: Failed to execute 'observe' on 'MutationObserver': parameter 1 is not of type

[tw5] How to Disable Side-by-side Auto Preview

2018-05-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
After upgrading from 5.1.15 to 5.1.16, my editor now shows markup in one column and rendered view in another column. How do I turn that behavior off, and have the full editor width allocated to markup? I'm sure this is documented somewhere, but I can't seem to find the magic search terms to

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Is there a way to run the single-executable on a headless Linux box? It seems to launch the server OK, but then it fails and throws errors because it can't launch a web browser. On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 6:07:44 PM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote: > > There are some new updates to the (not yet

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I too have the tiddlers-don't-show-up-in-Recent-after-page-refresh-until-after-restart problem. And I turn off the preview pane, and it doesn't remember that change after a page refresh. I'm running on Ubuntu Linux 16.04, with node 10.0.0, using the plug-in (not the one-file executable).

[tw5] Three Markdown Options for Tiddlywiki

2018-04-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I see at least 3 options for using Markdown in a Tiddlywiki: - The 'standard' TW Markdown - $:/plugins/bj/plugins/marked - $:/plugins/anstosa/tw5-markdown There may be more. I've standardized on GFM, and at a high level it looks like: - standard doesn't handle several GFM

[tw5] Three Markdown Options for Tiddlywiki

2018-04-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I see at least 3 options for using Markdown in a Tiddlywiki: - The 'standard' TW Markdown - $:/plugins/bj/plugins/marked - $:/plugins/anstosa/tw5-markdown There may be more. I've standardized on GFM, and at a high level it looks like: - standard doesn't handle several GFM

[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-06-20 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
than next week, as this is a bug I would > like to fix completely. > > On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 6:59:27 AM UTC+9, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: >> >> The material theme always has the sidebar closed on initial page load >> (for a node.js TW). I'd prefer it always open. Curi

[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

2018-04-06 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Ah! You are right. It *is* just the Recent tab that's missing them. It is curious that it occurs only when running in a Docker container. If you're not familiar with Docker and 'containers': - I'm running the TW node server in a lightweight VM. - The VM's network is isolated from the

[tw] Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

2018-04-06 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
When using the wonderful MultiUser Plugin, after adding new tiddlers and letting them complete the auto-save, I get the unsaved-edits warning when navigating away from the page. This happens whether I use the single-executable or the manually-installed plugin. It doesn't happen with a

[tw5] Plugin Overriding Core Tiddler

2018-04-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
When I see a plugin which says it contains a shadow tiddler from $:/core/modules/ , I presume it is overriding a core tiddler. Is that right? When the developer is developing that plugin, is he editing on the core

[tw5] Re: Keystroke to Close Current Tiddler in TW5

2018-04-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Almost a year later, and I'm most of the way to a keystroke to close the current view-mode tiddler. - I added tabindex="1" to the div in ViewTemplate. This makes it possible to select a view-mode tiddler. - I wrapped the div with: <$keyboard key="alt-W"

[tw5] Help With BJTools StoryTopTabs

2018-04-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
StoryTopTabs is an elegantly brief extension. I'm hoping someone (BJ?) can help me to tweak it. A view-mode tiddler can be selected by clicking it. TW shows it is selected by putting an outline around it. This works whether StoryTopTabs is installed or not. With StoryTopTabs, the 'active'

[tw5] Re: Help With BJTools StoryTopTabs

2018-04-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Well shucks. I'm an idiot. Selecting the current tiddler is a function of a plugin - plugins/nome/KbShortcuts. On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > StoryTopTabs is an elegantly brief extension. I'm hoping someone (BJ?) > can help me

[tw5] Re: Keystroke to Close Current Tiddler in TW5

2018-04-07 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
99% of the way there. In addition to what I said before: - I added tabindex="1" to the div in ViewTemplate. This makes it possible to select a view-mode tiddler. - I wrapped the div with: <$keyboard key="alt-W" message="tm-close-tiddler"> I also had to edit

[tw] MultiUser Plugin - Relocating the Wiki

2018-04-06 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
After installing the MultiUser plugin, it puts the wiki files in node_modules/tiddlywiki/editions. How would I make it run with the 'live' files elsewhere? As explanation, I'm trying to run my TW in a Docker container. It would be convenient to put all my image setup operations in the

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-04 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
The Command/Terminal window drives me nuts. Both Windows and Mac offer ways to run programs without a Command/Terminal window. If I were to run it invisibly, redirecting stdout and stderr to log files... Does it have to have an orderly shutdown in order to save files? If I waited 10 seconds

[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

2018-04-06 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Hmmm... Ironically, it appears that sometimes changes aren't fully saved for me. I'm running with node.js inside a Docker container. I exposed ports 8080 and 8081. When I save a title-only tiddler (i.e. click the new-tiddler button and immediately save the new tiddler without entering a

Re: [tw] Re: TW WebDAV Failing Status 412 - but not curl

2018-04-04 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Thanks for the replies. Now that I know that's just how it works, I decided to hack the code and change if(this.etag) {\n\t\theaders[\If-Match to if(false) {\n\t\theaders[\If-Match I'll lose race-condition prevention, but it's a single-user wiki and I prioritize low-friction use in this case.

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-04 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
And one more question: Suppose I run it on my Mac for a few weeks and then decide to move it to my Linux server. Can I just: - Recursively copy the directory containing tiddlyOSX.command to my Linux server - Replace tiddlyOSX.command with tiddlyLinux - Launch tiddlyLinux and I'll

[tw] Re: MultiUser Plugin - Relocating the Wiki

2018-04-06 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Whoops. My mistake. I interpreted your instructions from gihtub: *cp -r TiddlyWiki5/plugins/OokTech/MultiUser/MultiUserWiki TiddlyWiki5/editions/* *cd TiddlyWiki5* *node ./tiddlywiki.js editions/MultiUserWiki --wsserver* as meaning it was the mandatory location. Hey! The up-side of all my

[tw] node.js non-global install

2018-03-26 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Whenever I see instructions to run TW under node, they look like: - npm install -g tiddlywiki Must TW be installed globally? I'd like to run two completely independent TW. TIA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw] TWC to TW5 - Substitute User Habit

2018-04-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I keep trying to move from TW Classic to TW5 and I keep running into the same problem. With TWC and the right extensions, I can do a search that returns many tiddlers and press alt-C until I see the one I want. I have TWC configured to show only one tiddler at a time, with TiddlersBar showing

[tw] TW WebDAV Failing Status 412 - but not curl

2018-04-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm trying TW from an Apache WebDAV server. I'm getting Error while saving: XMLHttpRequest error code: 412 All I did was to load a brand new TW file into my browser via http://192.168.1.2/webdav/testfile.html, add a new tiddler, and let the auto-save do its thing. I did no concurrent

[tw] Re: TW WebDAV Failing Status 412 - but not curl

2018-04-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
The value in the If-Match was the same before/after the page reload. I think that's evidence that the file did not change. I'm using the latest (just downloaded today) TW. Any ideas for how to make TW WebDav work? TIA On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 2:20:25 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > I'

[tw] Unable to Download Empty on Windows - Tested on 3 PCs

2018-04-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
When I click the big green "Download Empty" button at TiddlyWiki.com from IE, I get an IE bottom-of-screen error "8C10A12D-A5F6-4155-9FD1-9A1EADBD5FE4.html couldn't be downloaded". I tried this with IE11 on two different Win7 machines and a Win10 machine. All give similar errors. If I click

[tw] Re: Unable to Download Empty on Windows - Tested on 3 PCs

2018-04-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'll answer my own question -- opening any of the tiddlers which reference empty.html, right-click and save. That works, but the big green button looks like it is broken on IE. On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:21:30 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > When I click the big green &qu

[tw5] 404 Error With WebDAV but Not Via File

2019-06-22 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
when I serve my TW5 via WebDAV. But when I access the SAME file via file:// I do not get errors. Any suggestions as to how I might solve this? tnx Kevin Kleinfelter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

[tw5] Re: 404 Error With WebDAV but Not Via File

2019-06-22 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I should add that I got this .html file by doing a 'wget' to download the .html file from a Node.js TiddlyWiki. i.e. I'm trying to convert a wiki from Node.js to WebDAV. On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 5:07:51 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > I'm getting > syncer-browser-tiddlywe

[tw5] Re: 404 Error With WebDAV but Not Via File

2019-06-23 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Using the standard save button seems to have cured it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[tw5] Wiki Loads and Renders But Gives 404 Error

2019-08-26 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I broke my node.js wiki. Can I get some guidance to fix it? I suspect it using the DAV saver, but I don't know how to go about fixing that or why it started. When I load https://external-url:443/ , the default page loads and renders, but the save icon (diskette) remains red for about 5

[tw5] Re: Wiki Loads and Renders But Gives 404 Error

2019-08-26 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
into the individual vhosts, it works again. On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 6:26:52 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > I broke my node.js wiki. Can I get some guidance to fix it? I suspect it > using the DAV saver, but I don't know how to go about fixing that or why it > started. &g

[tw5] Display Tag In Tiddler Body

2019-09-01 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
How would I display a tag in a tiddler body? For example, I might say: - This is what the howto tag looks like --> (show howto tag here) TIA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[tw5] Re: Losing Multiple Versions On Server Restart - node.js

2019-09-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
indow/tab, presumably you have autosave to immediately >save changes? > > In some single file wikis, I have not looked at on node yet, you could use > 5.1.20's local storage plugin to save changes locally, pending the wiki > save. > > Regards > Tony > > On Tuesda

[tw5] Re: Losing Multiple Versions On Server Restart - node.js

2019-09-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I just now made a change to a Tiddler. I copied the tiddler body to the clipboard and saved the Tiddler. Then I waited 2 minutes, I went to the server and killed the node process. The file for the tiddler I just updated has a timestamp of Aug 22 21:32. Today is September 3. "git log --

[tw5] Re: Losing Multiple Versions On Server Restart - node.js

2019-09-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
. I opened the tiddler and pasted in my clipboard to restore. What's happening here? I really need my wiki not to forget edits! On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 4:38:32 PM UTC-4, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > > I'm running multiple node.js tiddlywikis. Twice in the last few days I've >

[tw5] Losing Multiple Versions On Server Restart - node.js

2019-09-02 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm running multiple node.js tiddlywikis. Twice in the last few days I've lost some data. I need help to improve my operating practices! The symptom is that I have lost the last 2-3 edits to a tiddler. I've been mostly editing the same long tiddler. I've had a need to reboot my Linux

[tw5] Re: Loading Existing Wikis Into Bob

2019-09-13 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
perfect. thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[tw5] Changes May Not Be Saved - Ensure They Have Been

2019-09-13 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Doing a page reload of a node.js Tiddlywiki often results in "Changes you made may not be saved," when using Chrome (but, curiously, not with Safari or Firefox). With plain Tiddlywiki, these messages don't happen so long as I wait for the red save icon to turn gray. With Bob, these messages

Re: [tw5] Re: Data Model Changes 5.1.20 Moving BACK TO 5.1.18

2019-09-10 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
The only data is ordinary tiddlers. And yeah, I could QA the cross version combo, but honestly, that's never going to reach priority #1 before I retire. Thanks On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 3:13 AM Jed Carty wrote: > There shouldn't be any problem. I can release the new bob version today > and just

Re: [tw5] Re: Data Model Changes 5.1.20 Moving BACK TO 5.1.18

2019-09-10 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
If there's a new Bob coming in the next day or so, that's worth waiting for! On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 1:04 PM Kevin Kleinfelter < kleinfelter.gro...@gmail.com> wrote: > The only data is ordinary tiddlers. And yeah, I could QA the cross version > combo, but honestly, that's never go

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.4, lightly steamed asparagus, file server and wiki management updates

2019-09-13 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Fantastic! It looks like neither of these is tagged as a release on GitHub. The last tagged release is 1.2.2. Does that signify anything? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[tw5] Re: Bob's Browser Isn't Putting

2019-09-14 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
It gets curiouser and curiouser. When I connect to my Bob wiki via https://my.site.com, which passes through the Apache reverse proxy: - The browser does not send PUTs on updates. - Updates to tiddlers don't persist. - 'Auto-populate list from Wikis folder' doesn't show any wikis. -

[tw5] Re: Bob's Browser Isn't Putting

2019-09-14 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Ah, that makes sense. If there's supposed to be a second network connection from the browser to the server, it too will have to be forwarded. To make the main web-page connection happen via HTTPS, I have Apache handle the authentication and pass incoming port 443 to internal port 8088. If Bob

[tw5] Bob's Browser Isn't Putting

2019-09-14 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
My browser isn't sending PUTs for new tiddlers when connected to a TW using the Bob plugin. I have an Apache reverse proxy in front of multiple web servers. Apache handles SSL and authentication and then forwards the traffic. It forwards to plain TW on port 8084. It forwards to Bob on port

[tw5] Re: Bob's Browser Isn't Putting

2019-09-15 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Oh gosh no objection. If it makes a shred of sense, propagate it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[tw5] Re: Bob's Browser Isn't Putting

2019-09-15 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Jed - thank you for the information. You've shared what you know and are clear where your knowledge ends, and that's all too rare. All - I'm going to continue to try and work out here how to make this work, since I can't believe I'm the only person on the planet who wants to access TW-Bob from

[tw5] Re: Bob's Browser Isn't Putting

2019-09-15 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Aha! Apache does need to distinguish which traffic to proxy as WebSocket. Many examples on the web assume that the URI path can be used to recognize WebSocket traffic. e.g. All WS traffic begins with "/ws". But Bob issue the same URI for the WS connection as the Tiddlywiki page itself.

[tw5] Data Model Changes 5.1.20 Moving BACK TO 5.1.18

2019-09-09 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I've got wiki data created/updated with Tiddlywiki 5.1.20. I'd like to move it to a machine running BobExe, and the latest BobExe looks like Tiddlywiki 5.1.18. Have there been changes to the data model which would make running a 5.1.18 wiki server with 5.1.20 data a bad idea? TIA -- You

[tw5] Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

2019-09-18 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm seeing weird behavior with Bob on a corporate network. I don't think Bob is at fault. I'd sure appreciate any suggestions based on knowledge of how Bob works. - From my laptop on the corporate network (which uses a proxy server and the proxy is aggressive about preventing access to

[tw5] Loading Existing Wikis Into Bob

2019-09-12 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
What's the sensible way to get data from multiple node.js plain old Tiddlywikis into one Bob serving multiple wikis? I have a few thousand tiddlers, so it Control-C and Control-V of each tiddler isn't going to cut it. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[tw5] Re: Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

2019-09-19 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Hmmm... Curiouser and curiouser. Today's behavior is: - Loaded TW in Firefox (behind the corp proxy). - Created 'deleteme' tiddler. - Loaded TW in Chrome (behind the corp proxy). - 'deleteme' showed up in both browsers It *appears* that the second attempt to load, which clears the

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-30 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Having looked at the code a bit between meetings, maybe the unsaved data indicator could be handled by a plugin. Something like (pseudocode): $tw.settings.heartbeat.indicator = setInterval(function () { if there is an '$:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/Unsent' tiddler with content {

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-30 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I am (clearly) not a programmer and (clearly) not familiar with how to program for Tiddlywiki, but here's what I came up with. (function(){ exports.name = "test1"; exports.platforms = ["browser"]; exports.after = ["story"]; exports.synchronous = true; exports.startup =

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-30 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Oops. Another issue can cause Bob to lose data. I wanted to simulate dropping out of WiFi coverage, to test Bob. I loaded TW+Bob, I turned off my WiFi, I created a tiddler, I turned WiFi back on. Bob never put up the disconnected warning and $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/Unsent shows that he's

[tw5] Re: Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

2019-09-26 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
This fails to save the tiddler: - Load TW from inside the corp firewall. - Add tiddler - Wait 5 minutes - Close the tab This saves the tiddler and displays it in all browser tabs immediately: - Load TW from inside the corp firewall - Add tiddler - Load TW from outside the

[tw5] Re: Bob - Anti-conflict, Data NOT Lost

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Since the silent failure to save updates looks like it only happens on the initial connect, perhaps it would be simple to 'just' invoke the existing "WARNING: You are no longer connected to the server" if the initial websocket connect times out? (My wife says that 'just' means, "I'm going to

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-30 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I'm not troubled by having to restart the browser after a server restart. That's reasonable. The two things which trouble me are: - The TW/Bob server crashes. That's a problem for me when I'm away from home because I can't always ssh into the host to restart it. (I'm reluctant to

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I think I can force it to happen. - Starting from a happy Bob session in Firefox. - Stop and start my Apache reverse proxy. That puts the "WARNING: You are no longer connected to the server" banner on the browser. - Tail the Tiddlywiki logs. No lines are being written to the log

[tw5] Re: Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
It happens after I click the reconnect button. When I tail the log file, things look OK at first. Then, something causes a disconnect. The log file still looks OK. Then I press the reconnect button, and Bob goes into his stuck record routine, showing the websocket error over and over again.

[tw5] Bob Is Unhappy - Hundreds of Attempts to Read fields of undefined

2019-09-29 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Bob is deeply unhappy. He's said so 93,494 times this weekend. (I counted.) Here's how he puts it: saved file with metadata /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/Wikis/pkb/tiddlers/Connecting to Boxtop3.md WebSocket error: TypeError: Cannot read property 'fields' of undefined at

[tw5] Can't Make Upgrade From 5.1.21 to 5.2.22 Happen (node.js)

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
I need help debugging why my TW upgrade didn't work. After I run `npm update -g tiddlywiki@5.1.22` then `npm show -g tiddlywiki version` reports 5.1.22. But TiddlyWiki control panel still says 5.1.21, even after I stopped and restarted it. -- You received this message because you are

[tw5] Re: Can't Make Upgrade From 5.1.21 to 5.2.22 Happen (node.js)

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
- `node /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js --version` reports 5.1.21. - `npm show tiddlywiki version` reports 5.1.22 - `find / -name tiddlywiki.js` reports: - /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js -

[tw5] Network Error Obnoxious on Chrome

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
When network connectivity is down, the node.js edition of TW works nicely and as expected with Firefox. With Chrome, the minute I open a tiddler, it goes nuts with the gold Network Error message. If I close the message, it comes right back. This makes the node.js TW unusable offline with

Re: [tw5] Re: Can't Make Upgrade From 5.1.21 to 5.2.22 Happen (node.js)

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
len Beiler wrote: > can you run `which tiddlywiki`? > > Also, is you current folder a data folder? Meaning is there a > tiddlywiki.info file in the folder you are running the tiddlywiki command > from? > > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 1:34 PM Kevin Kleinfelter < >

Re: [tw5] Re: Can't Make Upgrade From 5.1.21 to 5.2.22 Happen (node.js)

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
*_ui_ViewTemplate..tid On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:08 PM Arlen Beiler wrote: > check if you have any files in the tiddlers folder of your data folder > that start with $__core > > If you do, please paste the names here. > > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:00 PM Kevin Kleinfelter &

Re: [tw5] Network Error Obnoxious on Chrome

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
As a quick hack, I edited tiddlywiki/core/modules/syncer.js and made Syncer.prototype.displayError look like this: Syncer.prototype.displayError = function(msg,err) { if(err === ($tw.language.getString("Error/XMLHttpRequest") + ": 0")) {

Re: [tw5] Network Error Obnoxious on Chrome

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
ber in the control panel. If you click the > gear icon it will open the control panel, and the main tab should list the > version. > > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 6:54 PM Kevin Kleinfelter < > kleinfelter.gro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's a good suggestion, but no joy.

Re: [tw5] Network Error Obnoxious on Chrome

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
That's a good suggestion, but no joy. I removed and re-installed tiddlywiki with npm. I created a new wiki, so I've got a clean tiddlywiki.info, no content and no plugins. If I open or close a tiddler from an already-open wiki while wifi is down, the status icon turns red and start spinning

Re: [tw5] Re: Can't Make Upgrade From 5.1.21 to 5.2.22 Happen (node.js)

2020-05-03 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter
Ha! Found it. npm upgrade tiddlywiki@5.1.22 # has no effect on a 5.1.21. npm upgrade tiddlywiki # upgrades it to 5.1.22 This happens on multiple system. I went to my Mac which has never had Tiddlywiki. I went to my home directory and ran - mkdir node_modules - npm install

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