[tw] How introduce TW to newbie?
A friend expressed interest in TW and I promised to e-mail him some info. I'm always afraid people get overwhelmed when they take look at TW because the whole tiddlyverse has grown so complex. Especially if they're not hackers - which I don't think he is, but then neither am I. He works as a teacher btw. . Flavor wise (for lack of better term) I'm thinking of only bringing up TW classic (and tiddlywiki.com) and TS. And I think post-it notes (programmable if you wish) are a fair analogy to tiddlers. And of course I'll mention this group. No mention of tiddlyspot, tiddlytools, TW5 or other concepts to begin with. IMO the smoothest start is probably to create a space on TS. Thoughts? What would you do? I'll suggest he reads this thread, btw. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: How introduce TW to newbie?
Thanks for your answers, both very interesting! Funny how such a simple tool can be such a complex tool. :-) On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:42:45 PM UTC+1, Mat wrote: A friend expressed interest in TW and I promised to e-mail him some info. I'm always afraid people get overwhelmed when they take look at TW because the whole tiddlyverse has grown so complex. Especially if they're not hackers - which I don't think he is, but then neither am I. He works as a teacher btw. . Flavor wise (for lack of better term) I'm thinking of only bringing up TW classic (and tiddlywiki.com) and TS. And I think post-it notes (programmable if you wish) are a fair analogy to tiddlers. And of course I'll mention this group. No mention of tiddlyspot, tiddlytools, TW5 or other concepts to begin with. IMO the smoothest start is probably to create a space on TS. Thoughts? What would you do? I'll suggest he reads this thread, btw. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] [TWC] MTC for slice transclusion - why does this not work?
http://mtc-slicetransclusion.tiddlyspace.com/ Trying to transclude slice content, but it only works for slicenames on singleword form, not double words nor [[links]]. The link illustrates the problem. What to do? I tried with WikifyPlugin but this did not solve it. I also tried in TW (ie. non TS) but no cigar. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] [TWC] dead link on tw.com
No biggie, but... no elegantie either ;-) http://tiddlywiki.com/#[[Image%20Formatting]] at very bottom there's dead link. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TWC] MTC for slice transclusion - why does this not work?
I might have found the answer at http://tiddlywiki.org/#Slices *A slice name may contain any of the characters a-ZA-Z_0-9.* Appears slices cannot contain spaces. It would be great if it could, and particularly [[links with spaces]], because you can then create tables and refer to items rather freely, eg: | Item | Quantity | |[[10k ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|2| |[[560 ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|16| Any suggestions what to do, anyone? Thank you! On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:12:51 PM UTC+1, Mat wrote: http://mtc-slicetransclusion.tiddlyspace.com/ Trying to transclude slice content, but it only works for slicenames on singleword form, not double words nor [[links]]. The link illustrates the problem. What to do? I tried with WikifyPlugin but this did not solve it. I also tried in TW (ie. non TS) but no cigar. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TWC] MTC for slice transclusion - why does this not work?
Hooray, not only did your help solve the space character problem but your
guidance led me to find a solution (albeit not perfect, see below) also for
square brackets, thus making my example possible to use, ie:
| Item | Quantity |
|[[10k ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|2|
|[[560 ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|16|
The magic lottery combo is:
\.\w \u005b\u005d
...resulting in:
TiddlyWiki.prototype.slicesRE = /(?:^([\'\/]{0,2})~?([\.\w
\u005b\u005d]+)\:\1[\t\x20]*([^\n]*)[\t\x20]*$)|(?:^\|([\'\/]{0,2})~?([\.\w
\u005b\u005d]+)\:?\4\|[\t\x20]*([^\|\n]*)[\t\x20]*\|$)/gm;
When you call for the slice value, you use:
tiddler SourceTiddler::[[slice name]]
...meaning that (and here's the not-perfect aspect) you must explicitly add
the [[ and ]] in the slice call, ie you must know that it really is a
wikilink you're calling. If anyone has a solution to this, please shout
out. For practical purposes I guess an ugly solution is possible, that is
to double call because the faulty call does not render anything (...as far
as I understand), ie:
tiddler SourceTiddler::slice nametiddler SourceTiddler::[[slice
name]]
(Better suggestions welcomed.)
Regarding that first bit Eric suggested for space character, should that
not be in TW core then?
Again, thank you!
:-)
On Friday, December 13, 2013 6:55:08 AM UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
[editor's note: reply re-posted after editing...]
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:27:03 PM UTC-8, Mat wrote:
I might have found the answer at http://tiddlywiki.org/#Slices
*A slice name may contain any of the characters a-ZA-Z_0-9.*Appears
slices cannot contain spaces. It would be great if it could, and
particularly [[links with spaces]], because you can then create tables and
refer to items rather freely, eg:
| Item | Quantity |
|[[10k ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|2|
|[[560 ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|16|
Any suggestions what to do, anyone?
You can experiment with changing the regular expression (text pattern)
that the TWCore slice mechanism uses for recognizing slice definitions
embedded in tiddler content...
Create a new tiddler, [[SetCustomSlicePattern]], tagged with
'systemConfig', containing this single-line of code:
TiddlyWiki.prototype.slicesRE = /(?:^([\'\/]{0,2})~?([\.\w]+)\
:\1[\t\x20]*([^\n]*)[\t\x20]*$)|(?:^\|([\'\/]{0,2})~?([\.\w]
+)\:?\4\|[\t\x20]*([^\|\n]*)[\t\x20]*\|$)/gm;
(note: GoogleGroups word-wrapping may insert a newline or two in the code
posted here... if present, remove them to make this work!)
For your purposes, the most important part of the pattern is: [\.\w],
which matches either any character except newline or any alphanumeric
character (see [1] for regexp syntax reference). Note that any character
expect newline *SHOULD* include spaces, but apparently does not. Try
changing the pattern to [\.\w ] (ie., add a trailing space before the
closing bracket) and see what happens.
One important caveat: because spaces in slice names are non-standard, your
tiddler content will be less 'portable' to other TW documents (unless, of
course, you include the above [[SetCustomSlicePattern]] plugin as well).
enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: [TWC] MTC for slice transclusion - why does this not work?
[Note: using google groups fancy formatting with { } seems to cause posting
problems, at least for this post]
Hooray, not only did your help solve the space character problem but your
guidance led me to find a solution (albeit not perfect, see below) also for
square brackets, thus making my example possible to use, ie:
| Item | Quantity |
|[[10k ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|2|
|[[560 ohm ¼ watt resistor]]|16|
The magic lottery combo is:
\.\w \u005b\u005d
...resulting in:
TiddlyWiki.prototype.slicesRE = /(?:^([\'\/]{0,2})~?([\.\w
\u005b\u005d]+)\:\1[\t\x20]*([^\n]*)[\t\x20]*$)|(?:^\|([\'\/]{0,2})~?([\.\w
\u005b\u005d]+)\:?\4\|[\t\x20]*([^\|\n]*)[\t\x20]*\|$)/gm;
When you call for the slice value, you use:
tiddler SourceTiddler::[[slice name]]
...meaning that (and here's the not-perfect aspect) you must explicitly add
the [[ and ]] in the slice call, ie you must know that it really is a
wikilink you're calling. If anyone has a solution to this, please shout
out. For practical purposes I guess an ugly solution is possible, that is
to double call because the faulty call does not render anything (...as far
as I understand), ie:
tiddler SourceTiddler::slice nametiddler SourceTiddler::[[slice
name]]
(Better suggestions welcomed.)
Regarding that first bit Eric suggested for space character, should that
not be in TW core then?
Again, thank you!
:-)
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[tw] Re: CAPS LOCK Links
Tobias very interesting Linkify plugin might be what you're asking about: http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#Linkify It takes a bit of studying to understand it, but it is very cool. IMO it makes even more sense for (personally administered) wikis than the whole CamelCase and bracket idea. If a tiddler is mentioned - it get's linked automatically. :-) On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:07:29 PM UTC+1, Daniel Sandström wrote: Hi all. I've just started using TiddlyWiki daily in my work after playing around with it on and off for a couple of months. I'm planning on documenting important info to aid my memory. I'm an engineer and deal with a lot of different equipment, for example setup specifics for a device. I just realized there's a lot of acronyms/abbreviations like AVR. These are currently not recognized as WikiLinks. Is there a plugin or code for it? BR Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How do (should) I start a new line in a Tiddler?
Various editors allow you to press Shift+Enter for hard line breaks. I
think this would be a nice(-r) solution, if possible.
But actually, if I understand it right there is now
and for block quotes (btw, I'm always unsure if it's or )
(with resevations for googlegroup messing up this here)
for monospace
for hard line breaks
double enter for paragraphs
and maybe more.
...am I alone in thinking that this is a bit much? It doesn't feel
coherent. Even CSS would be more intuitive and generic ; ie {{block{ ...
{{mono{ ...etc. So how about this idea, using the single and familiar as
a markup indicator
block
here's the
block text
block
mono
10 write Hello
20 goto 10;
mono
linebreaks
poetry for
the people
linebreaks
etc
Maybe that repetitive bottom command is not necessary, i.e instead of
bottom mono just a single to show end.
Could even be with optional commands for even easier use, ie all these for
the same result: mono or code or m or c
I think this is a LOT easier to learn (and there's already a LOT of other
stuff to learn in order to use TW). I think we should strive for as few, as
genereic and as coherent commands as possible.
:-)
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:16:58 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
I've just added support for hard line breaks using triple-double quotes:
The linebreak at the end
of this line
will be preserved
The new feature will be released with 5.0.2 shortly
Best wishes
Jeremy
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:50 AM, jb dall...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:
Me too. I am a long time TWC user (several yrs.) without really
understand all the underlying code. I have been able to mimic others and
use some or Eric's awesome plugins. I am having a really hard time warming
up to all of the extra spacing in TW5. If only we could get a theme that
have a more 'classic' look.
Awesome job Jeremy!
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:11:31 PM UTC+8, Gerald Strickland wrote:
First off, thank you Jeremy Ruston and to all of those involved with
TiddlyWiki. I started using TWC a few months ago and it completely
satisfied the way I like to keep my notes and document whatever I happen to
be working on. Simply incredible. Then early this month, while looking for
ways to tweak the look of my TWC, I came across TW5 and was blown away!
The question is exactly what's written on the subject line. In TWC, when
writing a tiddler, I can hit the enter key and start a new line. In TW5, I
can only (afaik) achieve this either by creating a bullet or numbered list.
There are cases where I would not want a bullet or numbered list and just
simply create a new line. The way I'm doing this now is by typing in br
in front of each line. Is there another way of doing this? Not that big of
a deal if there isn't, just curious. I understand hitting Enter twice
moves you down to a new line, but I'd prefer if I didn't have that much
space between my lines.
I could always experiment using a text expander software or something
like that to speed up the br inputs. OR I could make it easy on myself
and just get used to numbered lists and bullets.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How do (should) I start a new line in a Tiddler?
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:28:40 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote: a) There is no difference between the start and the end tag. So what if, you need to nest them You have a point - but is it my lack of imagination or is this relevant to anything else other than block? I'm not sure what nested monospace or linebreaks mean. Regardless, one could perhaps use the intuitive and established practice of repeating the command as is done in e.g bullet list levels. Perhaps block mary had a block (or blockblock ) little lamb b) IMO typing ``` is much easier [...and...] the mono tags interfere with the text in edit mode. I agree with the interfere aspect (altho only a minor problem) but while ```, , etc may look aesthetic my point is that these are magic commands and that they are too many that have to be learnt individually. How can we make these many formatting commands (or whatever these commands are called) more coherent? c) there may be some text eg: linebreaks that should not indicate a block, but start a single line quote with the text linebreak ... I did use a space to create a difference between linebreak and linebreak ... As you can see, it is quite errorprone LOL, maybe someone wants to type also! I think the number of times people write linebreak literally are quite few. That said, I do just realize that the sign is sometimes used in emails to indicate copied text. However, is just an example of course. Could be | , ~ ... So imo at the end there will be much more complexity and much more to type :) Well, complexity can bring simplicity and this is my very aim. Maybe we can come up with something quick and easy to remember? One running concern I have with TW is that I think we loose potential users because of quirks like these. The threshold to get into TW is unfortunately a bit high and these commands used from the very beginning are probably particularly important in this respect (as opposed to the later thresholds where you're forced to dabble with js and stuff.) However, this makes me wonder if it is possible with *alternative *syntax for these features? Both and something else. Maybe difficult to implement, I have no idea, but it would probably appeal to different people and thus increase the appeal of TW. I will raise this question on the dev board instead and hope to continue the discussion there. Always thought provoking and valuable thoughts from you Mario. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: link to external file
Of possible use: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/Q9Rngedektk/ac8DoqQ0hDgJ http://www.tiddlytools.com/#AttachFilePluginInfo https://addons.mozilla.org/sv-se/firefox/addon/local-filesystem-links/?src=hp-dl-upandcoming :-) On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:36:02 PM UTC+1, cangaroo joe wrote: I want to create links to external files. It seems that only absolute path is working, relative not. Ex. [europe.pdf[file://localhost\c:\Users\etc.]] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] TWC: Tabs not render until opened?
Is it possible to make tabs, such as in the sidebar, not take up loading time until actually opened? I have identified this as one main reason why my cell phone loads so slowly. (Actually for my main TW's I use a MainMenu consisting of a fET rendering a TreeView http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/... great automated menu, but browser goes into total coma every time I load the TW). I have currently solved it with a NestedSlidershttp://tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPluginconstruction where the buttons stay fixed (like in e.g a horizontal menu) that I picked up from Master Eric at some point in history. The content does not render until slider opened because the ... command is used. In case anyone is interested: +++[Areas ↴]#panel1:... brtiddler AreaTab === nbsp;nbsp;+++[ToDo↴]#panel2:... brtiddler ToDoTab === nbsp;nbsp;+++[Ref. ↴]#panel3:... brtiddler Reference === DOM move panel1DOM move panel2DOM move panel3 (I have my fET-generated TreeView in the AreaTab.) This is all pretty neat, but while the buttons stay fixed, the tiddler content pushes down one another upon opening. Also, you can't have the actual tiddlers referred to opened, i.e in the main tiddler column, as it confuses the DOM pointers, and me. Had it been possible to use a NestedSlider-tree instead of the mentioned TreeView all together, then that would be even better. Actually, I'll raise that as a separate question. So, my question is if tabs - or any other solution for that matter - could be used instead to prevent slow loading? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Classic Clinic Rebbot and February Pledge Drive - ALL WEEK!
I'm probably doing something wrong, but there doesn't seem to be anybody in that group? I do see Erics avatar (or whatever it's called in google chat) but it does not seem active.. :-) On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:54:59 PM UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote: TiddlyWiki Clinic Hangout for Wednesday, Feb 19, has started here: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe-AF5fPMvZtg95J7muIBwlPv8MIHoewl9y9P5T9wcYpFZQ7w I am available for the next two hours (1pm-3pm Pacific time) for live help, discussions, etc. See you there! -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Erics Classic Clinic!
So Erics session yesterday, as part of his incredible Classic Clinic weekhttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tiddlywiki/JEVjFzmQhLk, turned out to be with just me and Eric! Incredible - sitting for, was it 2 or 3 hours?, picking the brain of one of the TW giants and just talking about things tiddly!!! I'm just a regular user (who can't code) so it was really a treat to talk with someone who really has the full helicopter perspective. Eric - thank you so much! :-) P.S) By the way guys, don't forget his tip jarhttp://tiddlytools.github.io/fundraising.html#MakeADonation! I'm thinkin, if we all just put in contributions for long enough his fingers will grow roots into his keyboard and then he can't escape and he must do TW magic non-stop! Mwa-ha-h! P.S2) I think there is a clinic today also! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: What happened to TiddlyDocs?
TiddlyDocs is in deed a really cool thing. Here http://tiddlyspace.com/bags/osmosoft_public/tiddlers/TiddlyDocs are some clips on TiddlyDocs from the originators, Simon McManus and Michael Mahemoff. The latest related go is VanillaTiddlyDocshttp://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/, i.e an attempt to make TiddlyDocs in a regular (classic) TW. Hope this is of any help. :-) On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:35:21 PM UTC+1, xx@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Currently I am using TWc and recently I stumbled upon information about a Multi-User TiddlyWiki called TiddlyDocs. The referral to the downloadpage www.tiddlydocs.com is offline. Was this a project for commercial purposes with TiddlyWiki framework? Was this a project from Jeremy Ruston or was it a spinoff by other users? Is the project still alive? Also, I can't seem to find any proper documentation about this project except some bloggers highlighting some of the possibilities. Kind regards, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] [5] Questins from very first baby steps with Filters.
First baby steps with TW5 filtershttp://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlerFilters.html. I'd really appreciate if someone can comment on the following: Here's a direct copy-paste of some table in tiddler TiddlerFilsters. To my surprise it kept the two colum structure when pasting in this post. I guess I'll see if the two columns are intact also after posting. (Note: It may be that all my questions are answered in the tiddler TiddlerFilter Formal Grammar but I do not yet understand how to read that tiddler at all.) Thus: *Filter* [tag[important]sort[title]] Ok, looks fair. Does it make sense to refer to tag as a filter, but sort rather as a modifier or is there another term, cause it's not a filter, is it? *Explanation given at tiddlywiki.com* All tiddlers with the tag important sorted by title [tag[important]!sort[title]] I get it, but it seems a bit contrieved that what really reads not sort does a reverse sorting. What's the reasoning behind this? All tiddlers with the tag important reverse sorted by title[[one]] [[two]] [[three]] +[tag[tom]] Is a blank space interpreted as OR iff(!) the space resides between operands? ... and a space followed by an expressed operator (the +) is just a space? What's the general rule here? Alternatively, shouldn't there be some kind of surrounding brackets around the three first operands? AND is normally not that powerful... but maybe + is not a regular AND but a super-AND spreading onto everything? BTW, are regular brackets, i.e ( and ) allowed at all actually? Any of the tiddlers called one, two or three that exist and are tagged with tom[[one]] [[two]] [[three]] [tag[tom]] (no question) Any of the tiddlers called one, two or three that exist, along with all of the source tiddlers that are tagged with tom[tag[tom]] [tag[harry]] -[[one][two][three]] Now, suddenly there ARE brackets for the minus sign, hmm... And there are no spaces between one, two, three. Does no space make logic AND? Is outer brackets required for this? Why does tag require outer brackets? Shouldn't tag[tom] be enough (making the word tag holy). All tiddlers tagged either tom or harry, but excluding one, two and three [[MyTiddler]tags[]] Is this a *special* command or could someone explain how this translates into the explanation on the right. Does tags[] mean all existing tags? And does written directly after and without space (in this case referring the position of tags[]) generally mean that we're talking about something concerning what is written before it (in this case [MyTiddler])? Must it be an operator written after? All tiddlers being used as tags on the tiddler MyTiddler [[MyTiddler]tagging[]] Isn't this the same as [tag[MyTiddler]] ? If this means All tiddlers being tagged with MyTiddler then why does the name tagging make more sense than the name tagged. All tiddlers being tagged with MyTiddler Will be really grateful if someone answers. Now curious to see if the two column format holds up. Preparing for mess. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Application that writes a TiddlyWiki
As you will see in a second, I am definitely not a programmer so, FWIW: I recall that a fast way to search things is with a hash table. This can be genereated in advance and need only be generated once, into a static list, I think. Then TW instead of documents manages hash values (...not sure if that makes sense) so that upon clicking to open a tiddler the document get's located and presented. I'm guessing there's only a few links on each document so once a document is opened (including the starting document), you can scan it to locate all links and then have these open in the background (or even lazy loading) so that when the reader clicks a link, that doc is already fetched. (Gobbledygook?) :-) On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:20:56 PM UTC+1, Timothy Groves wrote: Some friends of mine and I are writing a program that outputs a metric crapton of text, and we stumbled across TiddlyWiki whilst looking for an easy way to store and view the data. It seems perfect, except for one tiny detail: creating the file. To clarify, we are talking literally millions of wiki entries at once - somewhere in the neighbourhood of fifty to one hundred and fifty million entries per run. Clearly, we don't want to manually import. Is there an easy-to-follow guide for outputting a fully populated TW file? If not, I can tear the program apart and examine it line by line, but I was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction to save me some work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: (TWC) how to get fET-output in cloumns?
Maybe this is of value: http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[%27Pagewise%27%20list%20all%20Tiddlers%20%2810%20Tiddlers%20per%20page%2C%20with%20page%20up%2Fdown%20buttons%29]] That fET does not have to be in the page turning format, but instead you can have it present the results in a column (instead of a page). You won't get exacly what you're asking for but mayb eclose enough? :-) On Monday, March 10, 2014 12:58:40 PM UTC+1, magev958 wrote: Hi, I'm using Udos example List all Tiddlers in an A-Z Grouping (1), but with many tiddler and on a big screen it it seems a waste of space not to get it in 3 columns or more. I still like all tiddler with the tag show grouped alphabeticlly like... AB C aa ba ca ab bb cb bc cc bd DEF da ea fa db eb fb dc ec fc Is it possible, or is it easier to make a matrix of different tiddlers, all with its own letter? And how can I such case brake up the fET to display only one letter? /Magnus (1) http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#%5B%5BList%20all%20Tiddlers%20in%20an%20%22A-Z%22%20Grouping%5D%5D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [5] Questins from very first baby steps with Filters.
Stephan, Jeremy - thank you! After playing around with Stephans comments in mind over this past week I happened to watch the last hangout just some hours ago... where Jeremy shows the update for the TiddlyFilters documentation tiddler... and then you post on this here! Neat coincidence! Just a note: While the link Jeremy provides does go to some documentation I believe this github pagehttps://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/6a63a459686f441d8bcdbe29f894cf671e5177de/editions/tw5.com/tiddlers/concepts/TiddlerFilters.tidof his to the TiddlyFilters documentation is more explanatory. (NOTE to anyone reading this: THE LINK IS TO JEREMYS GITHUB CODE AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT PUBLISHED/OFFICIAL YET.) Again, thank you Stephan and Jeremy! :-) On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:26:51 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Mat Sorry for the late reply. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Mat matia...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: (Note: It may be that all my questions are answered in the tiddler TiddlerFilter Formal Grammar but I do not yet understand how to read that tiddler at all.) I've added a note to the formal grammar tiddler for 5.0.9 making it clearer that the grammar documentation is just provided for people who are comfortable with the notation. Thus: *Filter* [tag[important]sort[title]] Ok, looks fair. Does it make sense to refer to tag as a filter, but sort rather as a modifier or is there another term, cause it's not a filter, is it? *Explanation given at tiddlywiki.com http://tiddlywiki.com* All tiddlers with the tag important sorted by title Both `tag` and `sort` here are filter operators. [tag[important]!sort[title]] I get it, but it seems a bit contrieved that what really reads not sort does a reverse sorting. What's the reasoning behind this? Do you mean that it should have been [sort![title]]? Or [sort[!title]]? The reason for not using the first alternative is that I through the prefix was clearer. The reason for not using the second alternative is that it would have restricted operands to not be able to start with an exclamation mark. All tiddlers with the tag important reverse sorted by title[[one]] [[two]] [[three]] +[tag[tom]] Is a blank space interpreted as OR iff(!) the space resides between operands? ... and a space followed by an expressed operator (the +) is just a space? What's the general rule here? I've updated the filter documentation for 5.0.9 to try to explain the way that they are processed a bit better: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/6a63a459686f441d8bcdbe29f894cf671e5177de Alternatively, shouldn't there be some kind of surrounding brackets around the three first operands? AND is normally not that powerful... but maybe + is not a regular AND but a super-AND spreading onto everything? The filter syntax intentionally doesn't use brackets for grouping, as I don't think non-technical users can readily understand them. The tiddler I linked above attempts to explain the processing algorithm. BTW, are regular brackets, i.e ( and ) allowed at all actually? Any of the tiddlers called one, two or three that exist and are tagged with tom [[one]] [[two]] [[three]] [tag[tom]] (no question) Any of the tiddlers called one, two or three that exist, along with all of the source tiddlers that are tagged with tom [tag[tom]] [tag[harry]] -[[one][two][three]] Now, suddenly there ARE brackets for the minus sign, hmm... And there are no spaces between one, two, three. Does no space make logic AND? Is outer brackets required for this? Why does tag require outer brackets? Shouldn't tag[tom] be enough (making the word tag holy). tag requires outer brackets because all filter operators require outer brackets. As explained above, we merge adjacent brackets to indicate an AND. All tiddlers tagged either tom or harry, but excluding one, two and three [[MyTiddler]tags[]] Is this a *special* command or could someone explain how this translates into the explanation on the right. Does tags[] mean all existing tags? And does written directly after and without space (in this case referring the position of tags[]) generally mean that we're talking about something concerning what is written before it (in this case [MyTiddler])? Must it be an operator written after? The [[MyTiddler]] part starts us off with a list of one entry, the title MyTiddler. The tags operator then returns the tags that are applied to all the currently accumulated tiddlers, in this case just MyTiddler. All tiddlers being used as tags on the tiddler MyTiddler [[MyTiddler]tagging[]] Isn't this the same as [tag[MyTiddler]] ? If this means All tiddlers being tagged with MyTiddler then why does the name tagging make more sense than the name tagged. [tag[MyTiddler]] is a synonym for [[MyTiddler]tagging[]], in that both those expressions will return all the tiddlers
[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #40 on Tuesday 25th March at 4pm GMT
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:14:40 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: TiddlyWiki Hangout #40 will be on Tuesday 25th March at 4pm GMT: https://plus.google.com/events/ci8johmghraligoo1ohqkh4sj9o If you've any questions or comments you'd like to see addressed in the hangout, please click the QA button in the corner of the video preview image on the event page. For some reason I can't find any QA button on the preview image, neither via the above link nor in the email-invitation. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Leaving TiddlyWiki for good, and moving to OneNote
HAHA - you b*stard! I read the line thinking oh, sad and then I saw the name next to it and WHAT!? Of all people!!! On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:31:36 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote: April Fools... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Node.js npm installation
maybe this guide for complete tw-node.js newbies helps http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/118970/wiki/tw5tribalknowledge.html :-) On Monday, April 14, 2014 7:22:54 PM UTC+2, deng@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team- I am new to the Tiddlywiki. I installed the Tiddlywiki using npm install and was able to initiate the server and bring up the server. I am also able to access the site via browser. But the web page shows no layout at all. Can you please kindly advise? Thanks in advance. Feng -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Some silly nodejs tw5 startup problem, please help
Hm, feeling a bit silly here but I'm doing something wrong trying to start up a fresh tw5 nodejs version. I get it started but I only see what appears to be the right hand menu column, no 'river' column at all. I've tried to attach an image to this post, hope you can see it. What am I doing wrong? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Some silly nodejs tw5 startup problem, please help
Excellent. I assumed that since I got *someting* then I had already done that step. Thank you Matabele! On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:12:32 PM UTC+2, Matabele wrote: Hi New wikis have to be initialised before they load correctly: -- http://tiddlywiki.com/#Installing%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js:%5B%5BInstalling%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js%5D%5D : 1. tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server to create a folder for a new wiki that includes server-related components On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:22:03 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote: Hm, feeling a bit silly here but I'm doing something wrong trying to start up a fresh tw5 nodejs version. I get it started but I only see what appears to be the right hand menu column, no 'river' column at all. I've tried to attach an image to this post, hope you can see it. What am I doing wrong? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Best practice to keep content separated from system?
How can I set up a TW5 so that everything but the actual content is public? I believe this could be beneficial for many people, particularly newbies, because it would make it easy to ask technical questions by referring directly to the TW. What happened with my major TWC's is that they eventually got so complex and intricate that I couldn't separate out the coding bits that I needed help with without including personal information etc. (The latter is what I refer to as content). So, what do you suggest? Could a TW perhaps be setup in the cloud and, by using nodejs, store the content-tiddlers in a separate private folder and the rest in a public one? Or maybe TW5 on tiddlyspot? I see no default TW5 on Tiddlyspot though which means extra steps that can go wrong. What should I consider? As far as I can see I'd need to add some kind of identifier to separate what I consider content and what is code. Or maybe there's some kind of qualitative difference between code and code? A plugin is always(?) tagged systemConfig. Maybe widgets have some specific characteristic too? Maybe some kind of censorship filter or encryption so that you could share it all but with the pure content not accessible? Yes, you can of course do this manually (eg tag specific tiddlers so they're encrypted) but I'm hoping there could be some automatic way - ? The background to this issue is that TW5 is just really difficult for me. It has made me totally face my incompetence as a programmer again. I got to a point with Classic (after years!) where I can use it efficiently thanks to various setups (most notably fET and some templates) but with TW5 I'm fumbling in the dark once again... A TW5 setup that differentiates between structure/system and content would hopefully allow me - and others - to manipulate it and, particularly, ask questions in a smooth way. Thank you :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] How do I create a theme?
Not 100% sure a theme is the correct word, but I want a setup that I can apply to any new TW5 I create. It should include a pagetemplate with that has both the regular right sidebar but also a left side and where the display of both can be controlled individually (ie both shown at same time, or none, or either). Ideally also with some kind of slider top bar, i.e a frame (or whatever it should be called) that is invisible until some button is clicked to display it. Additionally I'll want a lot of additional toolbar commands in both viewtemplate and edittemplate. I'm thinking the best would be a separate theme tiddler containing all theme specifics. Also, it should (obviously?) not interfer with the upgrading procedure. Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I create a theme?
Oh, I should add; for the node.js version... if that affects it. Thank you again. :-) On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 6:16:16 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote: Not 100% sure a theme is the correct word, but I want a setup that I can apply to any new TW5 I create. It should include a pagetemplate with that has both the regular right sidebar but also a left side and where the display of both can be controlled individually (ie both shown at same time, or none, or either). Ideally also with some kind of slider top bar, i.e a frame (or whatever it should be called) that is invisible until some button is clicked to display it. Additionally I'll want a lot of additional toolbar commands in both viewtemplate and edittemplate. I'm thinking the best would be a separate theme tiddler containing all theme specifics. Also, it should (obviously?) not interfer with the upgrading procedure. Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Nesting in shadowtids?
My overall question is how to be able to manipulate shadow tiddlers and still have them upgrade easily. Both keeping and eating the cake, in deed. Is the following possible: In TWC (and maybe also TW5, I haven't explored yet) you can nest stylesheets. I.e you simply add links to other stylesheets inside a stylesheet and the processing will ripple through them all in sequence. Could this idea be applied also to shadow/system tiddlers? I realize stylesheets are more trivial - it only(?) affects the looks of stuff and later commands simply override earlier ones. Still, maybe there could be some setup that allows prepending or appending code to a tiddler. Upgrading the original would then still be trivial. I guess what I'm asking for is if this is possible to add in the core(!) templates for shadow/system tiddlers? What other strategies are there to manipulate shadow/system tids but minimize upgrade consequences? I'm just looking into Ton's guides on how to add some basic menus and stuff - really basic use cases - but still I find I must manipulate shadowtids. Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Autoadding images!
An concept idea to make adding pictures a lot easier.. if it works.
I've described it (and other stuff) on my not-quite-launched TidBits
spacehttp://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Autoadd%20pictures%20to%20tiddlers]],
but here's a copy:
Inserting of images in TW is typically a very manual task, particularly
locally stored ones. Here's an idea making it automatic (well...) :
Keep a local folder (computer or cloud) with //all// pictures for a
specific TW. When you save those pictures there, you save them with the
name of the tiddler that you'll want them to appear in.
Then, in //tiddler template//, perhaps at bottom, theres a
{{{[img[localpath/tiddlername]]}}} where the localpath is hard coded but
the tiddlername is a generic 'current' reference.
For multiple pics in one tiddler save pics in that local folder using eg.
format //name (1), name (2)// etc. In the tiddler template there's a script
that //if// the link {{{[img[localpath/tiddlername]]}}} exists, then also
check {{{...tiddlername+1}}} etc. (The suffix //_(#)// is Windows default
when a filename already exists in a folder. I assume other OS'es use
similar solution.)
The main advantage is that you can save pics directly to you folder
(always the same one). There's no(?) extra hassle other than naming the
image upon saving it - which you're always asked to do anyway!
No image (or file for that matter!) with the current tiddlers name =
nothing displayed. And the idea does of course not exclude common/manual
{{{[img[..]]}}} use!
Thoughts? Could anybody help out to implement this?
I think handling images (and videos etc) in TW is very under exploited
considering the *extreme *popularity of these features in other services
and web tools.
:-)
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[tw] Re: Autoadding images!
Thanks for your reply Eric!
It seems to me that, except for your specific, narrowly-defined use
case, most people will still use the common/manual method of
embedding images.
You're right, people will still need the common/manual methods. But I think
my quick'n dirtyproposal actually isn't that narrow if you consider how
often an image at the bottom would simply suffice... especially if appears
there almost automatically. Besides, it doesn't conflict with the existing
methods.
needing some kind of image viewer to differentiate the files.
Well, there is the built in image (thumbnail) display mode in folders.
Surely this is the case for all OS'es but I think even for the more popular
cloud storages.
Then, in //tiddler template//, perhaps at bottom, theres a
{{{[img[localpath/tiddlername]]}}} where the localpath is hard coded
but
the tiddlername is a generic 'current' reference.
It seems like you are proposing to embed local path information within
the ViewTemplate. The purpose of the ViewTemplate is to control the
*layout* of the rendered tiddler (and also sometimes to trigger macros
that have side effects, so that programmed actions can occur whenever
a tiddler is displayed). To define configuration values that are used
throughout the document and need to persist across sessions, you
should store them as slices within the SystemSettings tiddler. (see
http://tiddlywiki.com/#PersistentOptions)
Thank you! Forgive a non-coder but I have some questions:
1) Why would the images in my suggestion need to 'persist across sessions'?
ViewTemplate is loaded each session and thereby the images, no?
2) For the simplest user case, as per my proposal, I guess there would be a
direct image link(?) ie: [img[file:///path/currenttiddlertitle.png]]
2a) ...is that a macro call? (I thought macro calls are in the format
macro ?)
2b) Is this what I should put in SystemSettings... and as a slice? I know
what a slice is but I don't understand how it applies here.
2c) How would I refer to the current tiddler title, generically?
Again, thank you.
I think
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[tw] Re: Autoadding images!
Again, thank you. I think That last row should not be there. I'm grateful, for sure :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Macrofy [img[]] ?
In ViewTemplate, I hope to include something along the lines of: div class='viewer'[img[pathtoimage]]/div so to show an image in every tid. The above does not work though, but can I macrofy the [img[..]] command and then do something like div macro=img pathtoimage'' or perhaps div class='img'pathtoimagediv ? (Actually, what *is *img? It's not a macro, so what do you call what it is?) I'm probably insulting some fundamental rule with the above question but feel free to come with a better suggestion. Eric kindly gave some pointers [link]https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1vA8rTacD88/lRAU1BScyJwJabout configuration values but I don't undertand how to use this nor if it actually is necessary - is it? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: gtd-tiddlywiki Google Group gone?
Highly disturbing. And particularly annoying that it's not possible to contact google (as far as I know. There should be a google group on google groups.) Just what would happen if *this *group suddenly disappears? (If I only knew how to code, I'd make a group discussion plugin and implement it for the Community space http://community.tiddlyspace.com/... ) :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Macrofy [img[]] ?
Ah, brilliant! Thank you Tobias!!! On Friday, February 15, 2013 6:51:37 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Well, the ViewTemplate is html... so, why not use HTML then? http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_img.asp Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Autoadding images!
Thanks for your reply Tobias! Yes, something like blog posts could benefit from this. Often fixed layouts. But are you saying it should be limited to merely *one *iconic image recurring on different tiddlers? I'm thinking more of something to easily include tiddler specific images. From my perspective, (hidden) slices or fields are a better and more flexible way though... otherwise you have to keep to many things in mind, e.g. using a slice or field you can easily rename the tiddler while keeping the linked image working. Please elaborate. I don't know if I understand you right, but are you saying it would be better to use slice or field values instead of the tiddler title? Sounds very interesting - but how is the value set by default, ie to achieve the desired automatic display of the image? :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Help me make separate tiddlers with page break in pip-ii theme
Try putting one of these at a time into StyleSheet
#tiddler { margin-bottom: 3em;}
#tiddler { padding-bottom: 3em;}
(I get those mixed up so just try one at a time)
:-)
On Saturday, February 9, 2013 3:13:09 AM UTC+1, Arc Acorn wrote:
Going the super simple route, If you toss something like this:
.tiddler {
border-bottom: 0.5em dotted;
}
In your StyleSheet shadow tiddler it should make a nice simple break
between tiddlers that matches the theme relative well.
On Friday, February 8, 2013 5:18:39 PM UTC-8, dickon wrote:
my home space (dickon.tiddlyspace.com) uses a amateurishly tweaked
pip-ii theme, which I like, but I want to make individual tiddlers display
as individual tiddlers (with a gap, like a page break, between each one on
the desktop), rather than as one long scroll... I can't find where I and
how to make a change to the ?StyleSheet? to make this happen. Can anyone
point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Dickon
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[tw] Not TW but really cool layout
Not TW, but some food for thought (food for theme?). I thought this design was really cool and intuitive and imagine it would work in TW (particularly after seeing Mr.Rustons (his?) layout features for TW5). http://daniel-libeskind.com/ A filter in the top field/menu and, below it, a prominent horisontal scroll displaying miniatures of the resulting 'tiddlers' under(!) a top field or menu. Clicking a 'tiddler' expands it in the center. Obviously, text based tiddlers would not be as pretty as pictures but still interesting me thinks. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: @Osmosoft ethical brigades
Hi Tobias. Thanks for your always valuable points. I've adjusted a few things according now but I'm not confident with all of them so I've added you as a member to improve as you see fit. From my perspective, all that a *plugin space* should hold is a brief *SiteInfo *that explains what the plugin does which is tagged '*plugin*'. - include this *SiteInfo *in the *GettingStarted* using the tiddler macro - make the *SiteTitle* point to *GettingStarted* Check x3 - use a short but meaningful *SiteSubtitle* I couldn't come up with a snappy summary that made justice to the plugin so I didn't do this. - tag the plugin not only *systemConfig* but also *excludeLists* and * excludeSearch* - the target spaces really don't need to see it in lists or search results next to actual content This I find problematic as it will prevent it from showing up also in the plugin space list itself where I do consider it relevant. But also for my own spaces I prefer to have included plugins show up in the lists/search. That's it, no documentation and no additional content, Ok, doc deleted. As for included system spaces I'm uncertain what I can remove without messing things up so I've left them. But again, I've added you so.. Nowadays I even minify plugins using jscompress.com because in this context (from my perspective), it does not need to be readable or have any further documentation other than the plugin header (which points to the documentation). Hm, not sure I agree with this. Because of my [low] level of competence in this I'm happy the more I understand when I look at the code. Also, there have been times when I wish to change something minor and this would probably not be possible then. I very much appreciate the transparency of TW. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: UPDATE: LinkifyPlugin v.1.0.4
A personal THANK YOU to Tobias for this intriguing plugin, and a public recommendation to try this out. It is likely not suitable for any application of a TW but I find it particularly suitable for one of my main TW's ie my major notebook. As I've noted before, IMO this is really what hypertext is about and, frankly, the concept of likify/autolinking makes more sense than the special and arbitrary(!) concept of CamelCasing. :-) (Some vaguely related thoughts on links can be found on the not-quite-ready @TidBitshttp://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[LinkifyPlugin%20to%20link%20text%20automatically]]%20[[CamelCase%20-%20plugify%20or%20optionalize%20it]]%20[[Renaming%20tid%20ought%20to%20update%20refs%20to%20it]]) On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:51:34 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Hi Everyone, In case you are using *LinkifyPlugin*, here's an update (v.1.0.4)... http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com/#LinkifyPlugin If you are, please check if things still work as expected. ~ A new setting called *doNotLinkifyInside* now prevents linkification in elements with a matching css selector http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com/#Settings By default text in headings, the header and anything with a class of .noLinkify no longer is linkified. ~ The default styles have been swapped so that linkified links now are bit darker by default and lighter when hovered... ( thanks for the tip Mario: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/Pgbis-94ajg/H_u4u1kF8AcJ ) ~ LinkifyPlugin (like all my plugins) now comes minified by default. The a commented source being on Github... https://github.com/tobibeer/TiddlyWikiPlugins/blob/master/plugins/LinkifyPlugin.js ~ Under the hood I did some refactorying to use an actual plugin container under *config.extensions*. Before that I used global functions ...who knows why. ~ I have also updated the includable plugin space on TiddlySpace... http://linkifyplugin.tiddlyspace.com That's it. More soon... Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] TiddlySaver - one for all?
tiddlysaver.jar file; If I keep multiple TW's in one folder it seems to be enough with one tiddlysaver file, correct? Or is it TW-file specific and reusing it for many messes anything up? When updating TW version, is is necessary to also update tiddlysaver? Thank you :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy
In another post Jeremy wrote: If you're curious, TiddlyWiki5 is at a good point for exploration, with most of the major functionality now present. Without the timeline it is difficult to know what's new or updated there. It does look nicer without a timeline, but Is there a way view it anyway? I notice in TiddlyWiki5 Editions that you mention a few in the sky editions. I would think many use Goole Drive these days (I, for one). Any thoughts on an edition for this? BTW, since you mention exploration above - it possible to download a beta yet? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: New: SharedTiddlersPlugin (evolution of IncludePlugin)
On Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:00:45 AM UTC+1, Yakov wrote: Almost forgot. Unfortunately, recent versions of FireFox cut the including abilities of TiddlyWiki as well, while TiddlyFox solves only saving issues, so with FF 17+ you probably wouldn't be able to use this plugin unless Jeremy succeeds with such issues through TiddlyFox, or another way to load files is found (by me or by others). Does this still hold - ie. is it not possible to use on FF17+ and also not with TiddlyFox? Darn annoying how the browser creators change these things. Has anyone tested to share between different forms (for lack of better term) of TW's, ie between eg local copy and tiddlyspot copy? local and tiddlyspace? etc. Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: New: SharedTiddlersPlugin (evolution of IncludePlugin)
...and I forgot to express my gratitude for creating this! I've longed for this a very long time!! Thank you Yakov! On Monday, March 11, 2013 2:41:29 PM UTC+1, Mat wrote: On Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:00:45 AM UTC+1, Yakov wrote: Almost forgot. Unfortunately, recent versions of FireFox cut the including abilities of TiddlyWiki as well, while TiddlyFox solves only saving issues, so with FF 17+ you probably wouldn't be able to use this plugin unless Jeremy succeeds with such issues through TiddlyFox, or another way to load files is found (by me or by others). Does this still hold - ie. is it not possible to use on FF17+ and also not with TiddlyFox? Darn annoying how the browser creators change these things. Has anyone tested to share between different forms (for lack of better term) of TW's, ie between eg local copy and tiddlyspot copy? local and tiddlyspace? etc. Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TiddlySaver - one for all?
Thanx On Monday, March 11, 2013 3:09:16 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote: One tiddlysaver.jar is enough. I would update tiddlysaver.jar with the TW. I think there have been some changes for version 2.6.6 -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Center a table in a tiddler
Yes, I'm pretty sure you can use the center command in
htmlhttp://www.netstrider.com/tutorials/HTMLRef/commands/center.html- which I
suspect requires tiddlytools
htmlformattingplugin http://tiddlytools.com/#HTMLFormattingPlugin.
:-)
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:20:48 AM UTC+1, Aaron Schutte wrote:
Is it possible to center a table inside a tiddler. I tried using center{{
{|!stuff|!more stuff|}}} with the StyleSheetOptions, but it crashes
firefox. Any other ideas?
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Re: [tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy
Thanx for reply. Your feedback is very useful as I start thinking about end user issues. Ok, here are a few thoughts starting out with... Current status: * I downloaded empty and launched. Is it supposed to show a gray page with only buttons [New] and [Save] and a This wiki is not encrypted [Set password]? And they appear arbitrarily scattered. * Clicking the password button and setting it, FF asks me Would you like to remember the password on file://? - maybe it's a FF issue but that location looks funny (ie file://). Or maybe it's just me. Either way, it looks as if some default path was not set. * After setting the password, the page is still mostly gray. BTW, I really like having the option for a password as default! * Ok clicking [New], I get a glimpse of the layout but probably not intentionally; I understand that there is a left frame because the title New Tiddler at Tue Mar 12 2013 18:01:55 GMT+0100 is so long that I get a horizontal scroll at left bottom. Maybe the date is not necessary in the left column? * Clicking to set the tiddler title, I'd like it if the default text (New tiddler) would disappear instead of me having to delete it manually. * Same with text. * I really like it that the tags field is above the text. I typically mod my TWs to get this. * Buttons [Delete] and [Done] should probably be right aligned? And beatiful icons like in view mode. * I notice the This wiki is encrypted+buttons remain below the tiddler. Maybe these should be placed more discretely in lower left or lower right corner of page? * Clicking [Done] gives an animatino that is a bit funny. It rapidly appears to shift down+right about an inch and back up again. No biggie but a bit odd. * Creating a few more tids and then clicking one of the prominent tags gives a menu/list. I think it is a bit of an overkill to repeat the tag in the top of that list as the very tagis visible just above the list. No biggie tho. * (Also a bit overkill to list the name of the very tiddler you're in. Why would you want to click that, from there?) * BTW, overall nice and clean appearence of site. Neutral gray background and clean white tids with slight shade for 3d. Nice Edit and Close icons. * Re-editing a tid, I miss a Cancel button. * (...and, being a regular TW user, I can't help but wonder how all those other commands will be avalable, *link, references,* etc). * The animation when closing a tiddler made me smile :-) * Double click to edit seems disabled? * Further ideas: * Appearence is a somewhat undeveloped aspect in TW. Most TW's are very similar looking. Assuming we/you want more laypeople and non-tech sites based on TW, I think it should be easier to manipulate these things. For instance, * Personally, I typically add a lot more commands for my TW's such as New here, the combined done/close and cancel/close etc (asf permalinkhttp://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#SaveCloseTiddlerPlugin%20CloseOnCancelPlugin%20NewMeansNewPlugin%20NewHerePlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy
Thanx for reply. Your feedback is very useful as I start thinking about end user issues. Ok, here are a few thoughts starting out with... Using Win7, FF19 Current status: * I downloaded empty and launched. Is it supposed to show a gray page with only buttons [New] and [Save] and a This wiki is not encrypted [Set password]? And they appear arbitrarily scattered. No DefaultTiddler. * Clicking the password button and setting it, FF asks me Would you like to remember the password on file://? - maybe it's a FF issue but that location looks funny (ie file://). Or maybe it's just me. Either way, it looks as if some default path was not set. * After setting the password, the page is still mostly gray. BTW, I really like having the option for a password as default! * Ok clicking [New], I get a glimpse of the layout but probably not intentionally; I understand that there is a left frame because the title New Tiddler at Tue Mar 12 2013 18:01:55 GMT+0100 is so long that I get a horizontal scroll at left bottom. Maybe the date is not necessary in the left column? Not to mention the GMT stuff. * Clicking to set the tiddler title, I'd like it if the default text (New tiddler) would disappear instead of me having to delete it manually. * Same with text. * I really like it that the tags field is above the text. I typically mod my TWs to get this. * Tags on site five.tiddlywiki.com are varis colors. Only gray in my test file. Maybe it's explained somewhere but the reason for the colors is not clear. * Buttons [Delete] and [Done] should probably be right aligned? And beatiful icons like in view mode. * I notice the This wiki is encrypted+buttons remain below the tiddler. Maybe these should be placed more discretely in lower left or lower right corner of page? * Clicking [Done] gives an animatino that is a bit funny. It rapidly appears to shift down+right about an inch and back up again. No biggie but a bit odd. Same when clicking Edit icon. * Creating a few more tids and then clicking one of the prominent tags gives a menu/list. I think it is a bit of an overkill to repeat the tag in the top of that list as the very tagis visible just above the list. No biggie tho. * (Also a bit overkill to list the name of the very tiddler you're in. Why would you want to click that, from there?) * BTW, overall nice and clean appearence of site. Neutral gray background and clean white tids with slight shade for 3d. Nice Edit and Close icons. * Re-editing a tid, I miss a Cancel button. * (...and, being a regular TW user, I can't help but wonder how all those other commands will be avalable, *link, references,* etc). * The animation when closing a tiddler made me smile :-) * Double click to edit seems disabled? * I like the drag/extend text field when in edit mode. (Wonder if it will function like that tiddlytools thing wh * I do NOT like that newline/enter in edit mode is disregarded in view mode! * ...and I'm guessing thsi is why bullet lists must be preceded with an empty line? * Maybe I just can't find it (there's no search) but how do I create a table in TW5? * (Now my original question in this thread becomes obvious: There's no menu - how do I access my closed tiddlers? (Hm, and writing links MainMenu SideBarTabs PageTemplate didn't give anything either). I assume this is just temporary of course.) * Clicking [Save] gives popup message Download changes / Your browser only supports manual saving [snip]. At bottom of popup theres link Right-click to save changes - so I'm supposed to right-click-download it from my own local copy? Is it some setting in FF * But, ok, right-click-save it is; In deed unrecognizable name (as described in popup). Renaming, save. This of course results in two files. * ...opening new file gives message TiddlyFox: Do you want to enable TiddlyWiki file saving capability for file:///C:/.../tw5test.htm (hm, haven't seen extension htm for a long time). I think I saw some discussion on TiddlyFox to make it so you don't have to answer this every time. Maybe I misunderstood it but, regardless, I hope this will be the case of course. (BTW in these opening steps I'm also asked to enter the password. Seems to work as intended and appears very tight/good.) * Opening the new one still gives no access to previously made tiddlers. * Some minor stress testing works well (Doing Ctrl+ and Ctrl-, some internatinoal characters, very long titles, ) * ...but, bug, it seems I can create multiple tiddlers with the same name. However, opening one for edit also opens the other one and only whichever is saved last sets what is actually saved. * Problem: tiddler column holds from top down tiddlers aaa, bbb and ccc. The last, ccc, is out of sight at bottom. All are tagged 'bbb'. Clicking on tag 'bbb' in aaa shows list, but clicking 'ccc' does not put focus on ccc. Further Thoghts/Ideas/wishes: * Much more transparent handling of fields. I (a non-coder) will elaborate if this is
[tw] Possible to make RSS reader?
With Google Reader sadly shutting downhttp://googleblog.blogspot.de/2013/03/a-second-spring-of-cleaning.htmlsoon, I'm wondering if it is possible (read: simple) to use TW instead? I've seen stuff on RSS and feeds but always thought of that as too advanced for me so I'm wondering if there perhaps already exist some kind of solution or parts of a solution? Or maybe even solutionS - and in that case, what are the differences among them? And would these things work on TiddlySpace? Would be cool if it is possible to set up topical public newschannels there. Thanks! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] How to create autolink instead of using CamelText (WikiWord)?
Yes, LinkifyPlugin does exactly that along with some fine tuning options etc. I know of no other alternative. I find this concept very exciting and frankly more natural than the arbitrary CamelCase idea. :-) On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:33:57 PM UTC+1, Albert Riedinger wrote: Hi! Tobias created a wonderful solution[1] a while ago. Hope that helps! [1]LinkifyPlugin http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com/ Am 14.03.2013 17:28 schrieb Giang Lê Hoàng giang...@gmail.comjavascript: : Dear Tiddlers, I just used TiddlyWiki, and I wonder is there anyway to automatically create Internal Link between a word or a group of word and a Note with those words as title? I found that there are 2 ways in TiddlyWiki: - Use *CamelText *such as *ThisIsAPost* to be automatically linked to a note which has *ThisIsAPost* as title. - Use bracket to cover words to link to the post with that title such as:* [[This Is A Post]]* to link to the post *This Is A Post* Is there any others way in which whenever I type This Is A Post in one note, it will *automatically linked *with the post This Is A Post? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 introductory screencast
Could you elaborate a bit more on the target audience and the purpose for the video? Thanks :-) On Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:17:38 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I've made a screencast introducing TiddlyWiki5 and showing how to use it: http://vimeo.com/62508140 I'd appreciate any feedback, particularly as I intend to make further screencasts as TW5 nears beta. My feedback from making it is that 13 minutes might be too long; cleaning up and editing took a long time, and I suspect that I'd be more productive trying to do more frequent shorter videos. Cheers, Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Multiple tag filtering
Check out http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin I think it is also possible to use core commands for complex filters but I'm uncertain of the syntax. Also, in case it's tiddlyspce you're using I think there are yet further filters available. In the growing tw.org http://tiddlywiki.org/#Filters (mainly thanks to Tobias Beer I think) there are some basic explanations on filters and related. It would be nice if more complex examples could be shown. :-) On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:44:41 PM UTC+1, Alex S. Garcia wrote: Hi all, I've been playing a lot with filters lately, but there are cases where I find it a bit tedious. And I suddenly wondered if there would be an easier way to handle this... Let's take an example. Say I have a music file listing artists from various countries. Now I can do this: list filter [tag[UK]] And that will list all of those from the UK. I also can do this : list filter [tag[band]] To list only bands (as opposed to solo artists). But... how would I pull up a list of tiddlers that have BOTH the UK *and* the band tag, thus not showing American solo artists, for instance. Is it possible? I've started going through my tags, changing them to solo_USA and band_USA to resolve the issue, but it's tedious and I'm wondering if there is an easier (and more flexible) way of doing this? Thanks. Alex. -- - http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] slice containing ]] interferes with tiddler [[...]]
Tiddler, say AAA, containing slice: |slice|[[alias|some tiddler name]]| trying to apply tiddler macro: tiddler [[AAA::slice]] ...but this doesn't work. I'm guessing the ]] in the slice value interferes with the tiddler macro. (Or maybe it's the | pipe ?) As far as I undertstand this means conflicting core functionality for a pretty simple use case. Any way around this (or do I misunderstand something)? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 introductory screencast
On Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:43:46 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: My intention was to target ordinary web users who may be interested in exploring TiddlyWiki, and the purpose is to encourage them to try it out. Yup, agree with the compliments here; nice clip and TW5 looks beautiful! Given that ... * you ask for feedback on the clip * your stated target group is web users who are not familiar with TW and that the purpose is to encourage them to try it out * and that the clip is intended as a standalone intro to tw5 from its creator (ie. there won't be many more such intros from you) ...here's my feedback: I agree with your own reflections that the clip should be shorter/snappier. TW is such an amazing and general tool that it is a difficult to see the light right away - so in order to *hook *people I believe it would make sense to *highlight some benefits* with TW already at the start of the clip. I would suggest you insert a screen with a bullet list of concrete examples and benefits for the above stated target group. Perhaps some of the application examples listed on tw.com? A glance at what, say, Evernote, Basecamp and other services mention as their benefits could perhaps give a sense of what people need/appreciate. Second, the clip, nice and friendly as it is, is of course also very amateurish and it does not reflect how mature or sophisticated TW is. Someone new could mistake it for merely a (very) neat hack. Now, we know they're totally wrong... but they don't. I believe an introductory clip for something like this must convey *credibility.* How would they otherwise know how great it is? Maybe you can mention that we're X thousand members in the tw group. TW has been developed for Y years. Z thousand copies of the earlier versions of TW have been downloaded. They must know they will not waste their time with something that is abandoned in 6 months. Chest beating is not only deserved but also *necessary *to convince many (most?) people. Also, if it is possible to use on tablets and/or smartphones, then please show this in the clip. A quick flash of a tablet in the first one or two minutes. I notice the link below the clip (good!) but I suggest a* call for action *at the end of the video too, ie. to go to the website and download it. Maybe it's possible, like on youtube, to put a physical url on the clip for clicking. Ok, hope this is of use to make people try TW5. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: slice containing ]] interferes with tiddler [[...]]
Thanks Tobias! I didn't know there were other slice formats. @psd or coredev in deed very minor... but still it's at the very tw.com site: your tiddler at http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerSlicing has some errors in the complex slicing demo, ie. the code example doesn't match the rendering example with regards to what are table rows and some italics and text bold type. (...hm, are nitpicks of that calibre worth bringing up? And somehow I sense this will not reach psd...) On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:22:56 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Hi Mat, Oh, who would have thought? That shouldn't be intended. As a workaround for now, the following could be a (working) solution... slice:[[alias|some tiddler name]] Cheers, Tobias, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Autoadding images!
Returning a bit late here. Anyway; @anyone merely putting in img src=http://... width=x height=y into ViewTemplate works. How can I make the src contain a generic reference to the current tiddler title? @Tobias - your plugin looks interesting but frustratingly I'm not skilled enough to understand how to make it work. However, even if I was, do I understand it correctly that a) I must manually include a specification for each instance for when I want a file to show up, no? That would kind of go against my original idea to have the image appear automatically. b) the filename is specified and it is located in the very text field of the tiddler (unless it is a field)? Thank you! :-) On Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:17:52 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Actually, you can simply use a plugin I have just written: http://get.tiddlyspace.com If you put this in your ViewTemplate... div macro='get ??thumb plain'/div ...it will try to fetch the field 'thumb' from a tiddler and wikify the contents. Or you could use div macro='get ##thumb plain'/div div macro='get ::thumb plain'/div To do just the same while fetching from a (hidden) section or slice instead... ...all assuming that the field, section or slice contained the required image markup. Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Autoadding images!
Wohoo! That's great Måns!
Demohttp://test33.tiddlyspace.com/#Wikipedia-logo.png%20logo4w.png%20ViewTemplate(without
ShowWhen installed)
The plugin version does work (google logo) but something's wrong with the
second (wikipedia logo). I thought it might require a HTMLFormattingPlugin,
but that didn't solve it. Not that it has to be solved now that the first
one works so well :-)
This is great! Now even my kids can add pictures to tiddlers as long as
they are stored in a decided upon folder.
Thank you all! (BTW, I'm still curious about Tobias solution and will try
it out again)
:-)
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:29:18 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
Hi Matt
I use Eric's WikifyPlugin, ImageSizePlugin and HideWhenPlugin for
this:
div class='someclass' macro='showWhenTagged SomeTag'
div class='someclass' macro='wikify
[img(12em+,)[%0|http://
someurl.com/SomeDirectory/%0.jpg][http://someurl.com/SomeDirectory/
%0.jpg]] title@here '
/div/div
I recon it should be possible to do it without any additional plugins
via the tiddlermacro - like this:
SomeTiddler
htmlimg src=http://someurl.com/SomeDirectory/$1.jpg; style=max-
height: 12em; max-width: auto; //html
and
ViewTemplate
div class='someclass' macro='tiddler SomeTiddler with:
{{tiddler.title}}'/div
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
On 31 Mar., 00:15, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
Returning a bit late here. Anyway;
@anyone
merely putting in img src=http://... width=x height=y into
ViewTemplate works.
How can I make the src contain a generic reference to the current
tiddler
title?
@Tobias
- your plugin looks interesting but frustratingly I'm not skilled enough
to
understand how to make it work. However, even if I was, do I understand
it
correctly that
a) I must manually include a specification for each instance for when I
want a file to show up, no? That would kind of go against my original
idea
to have the image appear automatically.
b) the filename is specified and it is located in the very text field of
the tiddler (unless it is a field)?
Thank you!
:-)
On Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:17:52 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
Actually, you can simply use a plugin I have just written:
http://get.tiddlyspace.com
If you put this in your ViewTemplate...
div macro='get ??thumb plain'/div
...it will try to fetch the field 'thumb' from a tiddler and wikify
the
contents.
Or you could use
div macro='get ##thumb plain'/div
div macro='get ::thumb plain'/div
To do just the same while fetching from a (hidden) section or slice
instead...
...all assuming that the field, section or slice contained the
required
image markup.
Cheers, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Autoadding images!
Great!! Thanks Måns! :-D
I'm guessing it is the {{tiddler.title}} that is an evaluated parameter
(i.e for anything in tspace using {{..}} one needs that
config.evaluateMacroParameters = full; - correct?)
:-)
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 7:53:15 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
Hi Mat
When you are using a TW on tiddlyspace evaluated parameters are turned
off.
If you create a tiddler: zzConfig tag it with systemConfig and write:
/*{{{*/
config.evaluateMacroParameters = full;
/*}}}*/
it works as it would in a plain TW
Check out:
http://testimg.tiddlyspace.gir.dk/#Wikipedia-logo.png%20zzConfig
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
On 2 Apr., 18:25, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
Wohoo! That's great Måns!
Demo
http://test33.tiddlyspace.com/#Wikipedia-logo.png%20logo4w.png%20View...(without
ShowWhen installed)
The plugin version does work (google logo) but something's wrong with
the
second (wikipedia logo). I thought it might require a
HTMLFormattingPlugin,
but that didn't solve it. Not that it has to be solved now that the
first
one works so well :-)
This is great! Now even my kids can add pictures to tiddlers as long as
they are stored in a decided upon folder.
Thank you all! (BTW, I'm still curious about Tobias solution and will
try
it out again)
:-)
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:29:18 PM UTC+2, Måns wrote:
Hi Matt
I use Eric's WikifyPlugin, ImageSizePlugin and HideWhenPlugin for
this:
div class='someclass' macro='showWhenTagged SomeTag'
div class='someclass' macro='wikify
[img(12em+,)[%0|http://
someurl.com/SomeDirectory/%0.jpg][http://someurl.com/SomeDirectory/
%0.jpg]] title@here '
/div/div
I recon it should be possible to do it without any additional plugins
via the tiddlermacro - like this:
SomeTiddler
htmlimg src=http://someurl.com/SomeDirectory/$1.jpg; style=max-
height: 12em; max-width: auto; //html
and
ViewTemplate
div class='someclass' macro='tiddler SomeTiddler with:
{{tiddler.title}}'/div
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
On 31 Mar., 00:15, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
Returning a bit late here. Anyway;
@anyone
merely putting in img src=http://... width=x height=y into
ViewTemplate works.
How can I make the src contain a generic reference to the current
tiddler
title?
@Tobias
- your plugin looks interesting but frustratingly I'm not skilled
enough
to
understand how to make it work. However, even if I was, do I
understand
it
correctly that
a) I must manually include a specification for each instance for
when I
want a file to show up, no? That would kind of go against my
original
idea
to have the image appear automatically.
b) the filename is specified and it is located in the very text
field of
the tiddler (unless it is a field)?
Thank you!
:-)
On Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:17:52 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
Actually, you can simply use a plugin I have just written:
http://get.tiddlyspace.com
If you put this in your ViewTemplate...
div macro='get ??thumb plain'/div
...it will try to fetch the field 'thumb' from a tiddler and
wikify
the
contents.
Or you could use
div macro='get ##thumb plain'/div
div macro='get ::thumb plain'/div
To do just the same while fetching from a (hidden) section or
slice
instead...
...all assuming that the field, section or slice contained the
required
image markup.
Cheers, Tobias.
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[tw] cintanotes (@Jeremy)
Possibly old hat for some, but if you don't know about cintanotes http://cintanotes.com/it's worth checking out. @Jeremy - maybe something can serve as inspiration for TW5? I have found myself using this parallel with TW because it is so darn easy to add notes to it plus it really has a practical next-to-no-nonsense interface. The adding of copied notes is not unlike the old tiddlysnip but even more direct. BTW, tiddlysnip or equivalent is a feature I really miss in TW. Ironically, it is a bit of a hassle to perform the very main feature of TW, ie. to add a note to it... :-/ Another feature cintanotes has is it lets you categorize tags and list them in these categories. Can be seen in screen cast at above link. [1] :-) [1] Tobias has the wonderful and powerful TagSearch http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#TagSearchplugin for categorizing tas. It's power comes with complexity tho. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Drawing in tiddlers?
Is there a drawing plugin or similar for classic TW? And ideally one that would also work in TSpace? I know there will be one in TW5 :-) Thanx :-) P.S Some ramblings on this and stuff on TidBitshttp://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Unquestioned%20limitations]] ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Cool frames (images) around tiddlers, how?
Mario and Tobias, thank you both! It is clearly more of a project than I expected. Thanks Tobias for the details, very good starting points! I don't know if you parts of the world have also have spring festivities today, but in Sweden we say - and I wish it to you - Glad Valborg. :-) On Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:23:42 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: Hi Mat, It all depends on the complexity of the frame or border that you want to achieve. In general, I recommend to define a minimum width or height — who needs a 5 px wide content box? Maybe something like this will help you get started: http://www.thewebsqueeze.com/web-design-articles/unique-css-borders-boring-borders-step-aside.html Depending on your html and css skills, this can get arbitrarily complex: http://tomasdostal.com/beautiful-picture-frame-in-html-css I would perhaps recommend to use pure css3, e.g.: http://www.themeshock.com/clean-css3-boxes How to do it? 1) For the entire tiddler, add the required markup to the ViewTemplate. Alternatively you can use template tiddlers and transclusion, e.g. [[template]]: html div class=outer div class=innter img class=photo src=../$1 /div /div /html and then use... tiddler template with: somefolder/image.jpg This won't however work easily when you want wiki content in the box. So there might be some yet-to-be-coded-plugin-idea lurking around. 2) add the required css to your StyleSheet tiddler. Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Some further TW5 thoughts/opinions
In addition to some previously expressed thoughtshttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/tiddlywiki/TW5$20Mat/tiddlywiki/0nmhoDZvIG0/wC0RsY87fbEJof mine, here are a few more: * Avoid all dead links in empty file. * tag systemConfig ought to be renamed into something less scary and informative, perhaps plugin or possibly autostart. (I think we're a bit home blind but consider how awkward it would be if, say, evernote or facebook required that users kept track of weird sounding magic terms). (...and if that suggestion didn't cause uncomfort, maybe this will ;-) * I'd love multiple tag fields, ie for different types of tags because: - it would simplify filtering a lot (I think). - it would allow users to tag *plugins *freely without mutilating the original tags - and the obvious, it would allow you to generally separate between tag types I get the impression a multiple tag fields feature is more suitable for core than as a plugin becaue it is such an integral feature. I've seen requests for this but there hasn't really been any solution. Tobias did create TagSearch http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#TagSearch plugin and, wonderful as it is, it seems to be a circumvention to make the best of what is possible. I can't comment on how to code this but interface wise - if you allow me to be a tad too intricate for this bullet list - tag fields (eg. in searches) could perhaps be on the form tiddler.tags3.contain... (for tag field 3), and the default field could perhaps be reached both via tags1 and tags. A plugin might be the more appropriate way to give aliases (eg Prioritytags, Systemtags etc). In edit view, adding a tag field could be with a simple [+] (with label add tag field) close to the default single tag field. Well, you get it. Sorry if this bullet point is too intricate and if I'm using the wrong lingo in my layman descriptions. * Not urgent but both TW5 and classic TW should have a logo (-s?). Maybe there is one, but then it is clearly not prominent enough. I think TiddlySpace has those circles as a logo, but not quite sure. I understand the user should not have to *deal *with that logo (ie to keep it visible or manually remove it etc) but it could really be just on tw.com and not be downloaded - just like all the specific tiddlers there are not included in empty.html. MediaWiki has their absolutely brilliant [[*]] (with a nice looking sun flower instead of the * ), just to mention an example. Logos are a marketing tool to create recognition for a product/brand etc. * On five.tiddlywiki.com, I like it that the menu has now moved to the right side. But it all is aligned left creating a large empty area on even even my 15 screen. Maybe it should be centered? BTW, I also really like the clean interface there in general. Really nice. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Optional multiple tag fields (@Jeremy)
In a prevous threadhttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/tiddlywiki/MaPEEqtavoE, I proposed the idea with optional multiple tag fields for TW5 and Jeremy answered: Interesting. It sounds as though you are envisaging multiple fields on a tiddler each with the behaviour of the existing 'tags' field, and the ability to specify which tags field is used for a given operation. I think that's possible but I'd be keen to make sure that I understand your intended use cases better: can you give me a few examples of operations that would be easier to accomplish with this feature? Ok, this has been an effort to write and I fear it'll be an effort to read but perhaps amusing. My problem is that I'm not a programmer so I'm probably using wrong terminology and have quite possibly misunderstood a thing or two about how TW is built up. However, I bring the perspective of an experienced TW user who has enjoyed but struggled with TW for a few years now. Maybe I (and surely many others here) can be seen as a link between you TW wizards and average Joes who justs want a good insert purpose of TW but who gets scared off when he realizes that TW without coding barely is possible and that he really is dependent on the generosity of the board members explaining stuff all the time. So, the central theme of my post here is about simplifying things for average Joe, one concept being the suggestion for optional multiple tag fields / tag categories. So, operation where optional multiple tag fields would simplify. For sake of explanation we have a TW on Tolkien stuff. Tiddler Frodo can have tags like the following: ring bearer, hobbit, protagonist, Elijah Woods, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, @Jeremy, and N more tags - i.e any association the author (or a group of people!) considers relevant. Thus, tags are plenty, sprawly and arbitrary - though all quite relevant and realistic. Example operation: Transclude the book titles. They are indeed among the tags but to get that info out you need to seek up which of the tags that in turn are tagged, say, book. Perhaps not difficult for a coder like yourself but I think few non-coders would know what to do. Multiple tag categories would in this example omit the need to search all together (assuming tiddler Frodo has tagcategory books). The search was replaced by (optional) manual work at the time of adding the tags (or later). Note also that there need be no actual book tiddlers for this in contrast to current solution that requires book tiddlers tagged 'book'. More complex and general problem (still quite realistic): List all characters of books (ie characters tagged with book names). Each bookname is tagged 'book'. You pretty much have to be a programmer to solve this. A merely experienced user might use fET, but if the number of books are arbitrary (i.e can't be hard coded) this case is actually not possible to solve with fET without adding special code. With tag category book in each character tiddler, a transclusion would be simple. While you asked specifically for operations that simplify and the above are only one or two examples, the following are mostly not operations but I belive they do illustrate situations where (optional) multiple tag fields are beneficial for non-coders: Using many(!) tags is problematic in current TW and problems increase with the number of tags. But if TW is to fit around your brain then just like some subjects in your brain has many associations, so do some tiddlers require many tags. It is a limitation to feel that I'd better not. One specific problem is (was?) slowness as a consequence of many tags, especially for various searches that have to scan all tiddlers and all tags. Categories of tags could maybe smoothen this. Further, regular databases often have many, many attributes and values. Not incidentally, the user friendly way to add an item in a database is typically a form(!). A tiddler with (optional) tag categories would not be all unlike a form with attributes and values. I'm not sure pure programmers are fond of forms but it is not a coincidence that many user friendly databases has this view for adding and presenting information. It's even more problematic with plenty *and *sprawly tags. Eg Tobias TagSearch plugin http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#TagSearch shows such a 'sprawl' and how categorization solves it. Prio tags here and task tags over there. Not to mention public tags for visitors here and private tags there... ...and optional tag category fields would 'operationally' open up for commands in eg viewtemplate to don't display tag field named 'unofficial'. Currently you must tag each individual unofficial tag with excludeLists (wich also forces you to turn mere tags into tiddlers). But excludeLists is a specific example. Operations can be of any type on category fields. Apropo that tagging tags forces you to turn them into tiddlers; when
[tw] TW Logo
Some sketches for a logo on tidbits spacehttp://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]] . So far, it's the best we've got as far as I know (nudge, nudge - challenge, challenge) :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: TW Logo
Ah, no I was not aware of those! Some nice ones! ...makes me wonder, and sorry if I'm gauche but; @Jeremy - is it you that decide? Or who/how? @Unamesa? Any criteria set? BTW, I've updated that tidbits posthttp://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]]with a new logo concept. :-) On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:03:04 AM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote: On May 20, 3:08 pm, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: Some sketches for a logo on tidbits space http://tidbits.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TW%20logo]] . So far, it's the best we've got as far as I know (nudge, nudge - challenge, challenge) :-) Have you seen these? http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlyWikiDotOrgLogos enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Something like core macro tagChooser but for specific tag instead of all tags?
Core macro tagChooser presents (if I understand it right) a list with *all *tags, except for thos tagged with some certain tag (eg. excludeLists) and if you click on a tag it gets included in the tags field when in edit mode. I hope it - or some other macro/plugin - can do this but instead of showing *all *tags it filters them to only show tags that in turn are tagged with some certain tag (say, includeLists) Suggestions? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Something like core macro tagChooser but for specific tag instead of all tags?
Thank you but I was vague in my request: I wish for it to be possible to use in edit mode (tagChooser can only be used there if I understand correctly). I did consider the excellent TagSearch but remembered from earlier tests that it did not work in edit mode. But your post made me test it again - and it actually does work to some degree. It does not update the tags field so to reflect the checked tags in the tagsearch window and this(?) causes problems when saving so the old tags are saved again. @Tobias - dare I ask for an update on this? Having it accessible both from edit and view mode would be really useful. Thank you! :-) On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:20:25 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote: http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/ -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.0 BETA 1
Stating the obvious here, but: Eric your work is fantastic A little question. It readys *to save it, without requiring any special security permissions or browser add-ons. *- does this refer to what tiddlyfox does, ie is tiddlyfox obsolete for this edition? Thank you* :-) * On Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:50:03 AM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote: http://tiddlywiki.github.com/alpha/empty.html http://tiddlywiki.github.com/alpha/tiddlywiki_externaljs_tiddlyspace http://tiddlywiki.github.com/alpha/jquery.js http://tiddlywiki.github.com/alpha/jQuery.twStylesheet.js http://tiddlywiki.github.com/alpha/twcore.js Going forward what would be good is to be able to retrieve the equivalent of those files for: * whatever the most recent mainline release is * whatever the most recent beta release is I think I've got this fixed up: 1) The tiddlywiki_externaljs_tiddlyspace.html file is built with a new recipe that uses the beta_* prefix instead of the now obsolete alpha_* prefix. 2) The externalized .js files are now being posted for the full release as well as the beta. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.0 BETA 1
(@Eric possible bug reported below) Thanx both to pmario and Eric for replying to my question on if tiddlyfox was still necessary! HTML5 download also lets you save local copies of TWs directly from an online source, without first downloading the file! ... Try this: ... Ha! That was fun! 1) Maybe GettingStarted or even HelloThere should reflect this, ie that the visitor can start editing directly (and that this won't break anything)? 2) I'm guessing it's intentional but mention it anyway - the file gets very cryptic names on save (16B4v_A3.htm) 3) I gave a tiddler a name with Swedish/German letters and clicked Done (no problem) Save Changes automatic download dialogue etc. Opening the saved file the umlaut letter is not correct (an o with two dots becomes ö ) 4) When trying the direct online save in IE (ver 9, very old I guess), it does not open a (browser) save dialogue box but instead TW gives a message: RIGHT CLICK HERE to download/save main TiddlyWiki file Downloading/saving main TiddlyWiki file ...and what I'm questioning is that both of these lines are links. If this is intentional, it is a bit unclear for the user what to do. Or maybe it's just my old IE (v9) Normally, I use FFlatest and Win7. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.0 BETA 1
Sorry, the above concerns 2.8.0 full release. :-) On Monday, June 3, 2013 1:14:55 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote: (@Eric possible bug reported below) Thanx both to pmario and Eric for replying to my question on if tiddlyfox was still necessary! HTML5 download also lets you save local copies of TWs directly from an online source, without first downloading the file! ... Try this: ... Ha! That was fun! 1) Maybe GettingStarted or even HelloThere should reflect this, ie that the visitor can start editing directly (and that this won't break anything)? 2) I'm guessing it's intentional but mention it anyway - the file gets very cryptic names on save (16B4v_A3.htm) 3) I gave a tiddler a name with Swedish/German letters and clicked Done (no problem) Save Changes automatic download dialogue etc. Opening the saved file the umlaut letter is not correct (an o with two dots becomes ö ) 4) When trying the direct online save in IE (ver 9, very old I guess), it does not open a (browser) save dialogue box but instead TW gives a message: RIGHT CLICK HERE to download/save main TiddlyWiki file Downloading/saving main TiddlyWiki file ...and what I'm questioning is that both of these lines are links. If this is intentional, it is a bit unclear for the user what to do. Or maybe it's just my old IE (v9) Normally, I use FFlatest and Win7. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] @ search plugin developers
Checking out a clip on note taking software Notational Velocity herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKShuvEOiqA, they demo a feature about 1:00 into it that I think would be really cool for the various search plugins we've got: There is the automatic suggestion as you type letter-by-letter, but once a unique note is identified it automatically shows up! No need to click search or a suggested tiddler name. Yes, a detail but it makes sense for any note taking software. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Tiddly Backpack
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:26:01 AM UTC+2, cflow wrote: I would love to look at the project if its available anywhere for download? Via special trickery: http://web.archive.org/web/20120902194622/http://tiddlybackpack.com/? step back in time there to sept 2, 2012 :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Can't import local TiddlyWiki file to Tiddlyspot.com
[Argh - my post disappeared] Briefly: I use FFlatest without problems. I don't know why it works but here are some factors that might be the reason: 1) Use TiddlyFox 2) Create a tiddler with the following (but exchange YOURNAME for the name of your tiddlyspot site). Notice that the weird dots and spaces towards the end must stay intact: option txtUserNameoption pasUploadPassword| |upload http://YOURNAME.tiddlyspot.com/store.cgi index.html . . YOURNAME :-) On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:38:04 PM UTC+2, Ruler11 wrote: On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 12:43:49 PM UTC+4, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:40:46 PM UTC+2, Ruler11 wrote: I get the message cancel Error retrieving tiddlers from url, please ensure this url exists and is CORS enabled. So is Firefox 4.0 the only solution? Sounds so strange... If you want to upload from a file to tiddlyspot. IMO yes OK. I downloaded Firefox 4.0 While trying to import a local file it still says Error: A script from http://[...].tiddlyspot.com; was denied UniversalFileRead privileges. Then it again gives CORS error. What am I doing wrong? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Tiddly Backpack
I assume you've tried to contact the creator (Ian) by clicking Reply to
author. But, in case he did not have his pesonal email address registered
for google groups, I think I can provide it for you - I'm the one who
originally asked the creator to come here and present his creation, after
having (again) used some trickery to find his email, and I just now found
our old correspondence in my mailbox.
I.e if you want what I think is still a valid email to him, please contact
me privately and refer to this thread.
:-)
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:30:23 AM UTC+2, cflow wrote:
I might be missing something, but the resulting document does not work as
the author intended I think. Possible technology has moved too far along
since creation date?
I can create an record, add note or terminal note to the record, drag the
items into a different order.
I can't add to sidebar, add items to the home page. On refresh the file
re-establishes as base line. No save possible?
Tried in IE8 and Chrome :(
Not worried though.
1. The functionality of Add to Sidebar I already have by making the
Main Navigation derive from a tiddler tag.
2. The formatting for terminal seems like something I can duplicate
for specific task types in my TeamTasks set-up.
/* Terminal styling --- */
pre.terminal { color:
#63FF00; background: #000; font: normal 12px bitstream vera sans mono,
monaco lucida console, courier new, courier, serif; margin: 0.9em 0;
padding: 8px; overflow: auto; }
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:11:18 AM UTC+10, cflow wrote:
Thanks Mat! You sir, are a wizard! No flux capacitor needed :)
On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:46:30 AM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:26:01 AM UTC+2, cflow wrote:
I would love to look at the project if its available anywhere for
download?
Via special trickery:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120902194622/http://tiddlybackpack.com/?
step back in time there to sept 2, 2012
:-)
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[tw] Conditional transclusion of text?
Via a forEeach I get: *tiddlerA ** contentA *tiddlerB **contentB etc The second level bullets are from a simple tiddler tiddler.title inside the fET. However, sometimes there is no content resulting in empty second-levels. How can I prevent this (inside the fET)? For example, can I put a condition in the tiddler macro to test if there is any text, but also format the output to return ** and \n only if the condition is true - and if it's not true it returns nothing? Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Conditional transclusion of text?
Found this: tiddler {{SomeTiddler.text!=0?SomeTiddler:}}
This works by itself so I'm trying to put in in the fET (which usually does
not have a problem with simple tiddler macros):
forEachTiddler where 'tiddler.tags.contains(foo)'
write '
*[[+tiddler.title+]]\n
** tiddler {{+tiddler.title+.text!=0?+tiddler.title+: $)) \n'
this gives error ( forEachTiddler ...: SyntaxError: missing ; before
statement )
but, as explained initially, my hope is for the result to be either *nothing
*or **text\n
I.e the bullets and newline are included in the result from the tiddler
macro. Maybe it's possible using with: and sending in bullets and newline
as parameters...?
...or if there's any better solution all together (hopefullystill with the
fET tho as it in actual application it contains more.)
Thoughts?
:-)
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:34:16 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
Via a forEeach I get:
*tiddlerA
** contentA
*tiddlerB
**contentB
etc
The second level bullets are from a simple tiddler tiddler.title
inside the fET. However, sometimes there is no content resulting in empty
second-levels. How can I prevent this (inside the fET)? For example, can I
put a condition in the tiddler macro to test if there is any text, but also
format the output to return ** and \n only if the condition is true - and
if it's not true it returns nothing?
Thank you!
:-)
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[tw] Re: plugin repository revived
one of the intended key features for the Community spacehttp://community.tiddlyspace.com/ . maybe, but not obvious ... what #Section of Community space are you talking about ? Well, no section but it is part of the over all purpose as mentioned in the default tiddler (Home). :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Can't import local TiddlyWiki file to Tiddlyspot.com
As mentioned a few weeks back uploading to tiddlyspot worked pretty well with FFlatest but today it stopped working. This most likely has something to do with it: Unrelated to TW, I decided to uninstall Java after getting some supposed alerts about java vulnerabilities on a site. I suspected they were not real java alerts so disregarded them but as I've read java isn't really a necessity I figured I'd just uninstall it and 'see what happens'. I did - and one thing that appearently happened is tiddlyspot uploading stopped working. (So - is local java necessary for TW and/or tiddlyspot?) Ok, so re-installed java. Unfortunately it still does ot work. This makes me conclude that the problems lie in new java updates. I'm pretty sure I had one of the later java updates when it until earlier today. There was a big hullabaloo some months ago about a java vulnerability and they quickly released a 7.x version which I'm sure I installed. There have been a few minor updates since, I believe. :-( On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:57:52 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote: [Argh - my post disappeared] Briefly: I use FFlatest without problems. I don't know why it works but here are some factors that might be the reason: 1) Use TiddlyFox 2) Create a tiddler with the following (but exchange YOURNAME for the name of your tiddlyspot site). Notice that the weird dots and spaces towards the end must stay intact: option txtUserNameoption pasUploadPassword| |upload http://YOURNAME.tiddlyspot.com/store.cgi index.html . . YOURNAME :-) On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:38:04 PM UTC+2, Ruler11 wrote: On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 12:43:49 PM UTC+4, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:40:46 PM UTC+2, Ruler11 wrote: I get the message cancel Error retrieving tiddlers from url, please ensure this url exists and is CORS enabled. So is Firefox 4.0 the only solution? Sounds so strange... If you want to upload from a file to tiddlyspot. IMO yes OK. I downloaded Firefox 4.0 While trying to import a local file it still says Error: A script from http://[...].tiddlyspot.com; was denied UniversalFileRead privileges. Then it again gives CORS error. What am I doing wrong? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Can't import local TiddlyWiki file to Tiddlyspot.com
Interesting. One thing I do notice (since yesterday) is that the TiddlyFox popup at load does not appear. TiddlyFox is still installed (I did not touch it). Could TiddlyFox perhaps communicate/depend on java somehow? :-) On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:08:09 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:49:53 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote: . (So - is local java necessary for TW and/or tiddlyspot?) Ok, so re-installed java. Unfortunately it still does ot work. With FF java is _not_ needed, nor is it used for saving. Saving is done with TiddlyFox, if installed. If TiddlyFox is not installed, FF can't save to a file. This makes me conclude that the problems lie in new java updates. I'm pretty sure I had one of the later java updates when it until earlier today. There was a big hullabaloo some months ago about a java vulnerability and they quickly released a 7.x version which I'm sure I installed. There have been a few minor updates since, I believe. As browser vendors started to restrict there security measures, there where some workarounds, to manually grant a file TW privileged file access rights. imo this setting was per file name. They totally removed this possibility with a later FF version. FF v21 shouldn't even contain be the code that made this possible. IMO if latest FF (v21) did upload one of your files to tiddlyspot, they would consider it a bug. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] format tiddler macro output?
I'm hoping for some way, be it via tiddler macro or not, to transclude the text from a tiddler on the wikified format **text\n ...but if there is no text, then (or nothing?) should be returned. Thanx :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: How to get tiddler macro to refer to itself and/or section within current tiddler?
Bump. And while I'm asking, I would also like to know what attribute(s) to use to retrieve tags, fields, section contents, and tiddler text. tiddler macro on tw.org http://tiddlywiki.org/#tiddler may give some clues on this. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: format tiddler macro output?
A big thank you Mark S! This has actually been a problem for many years for
me, but you solved it!!!
For anyone less advanced (like myself) reading this, I use this inside a
forEachTiddler to list tiddlers titles but also their contents on the line
below. The problem has been that no content gives an empty line rather than
no line causing less-than-pretty lists. Thanks to Mark S my lists are now
tight and clean!
:-D
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:19:17 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
Take 2.
You can make it even easier to use by creating a tiddler bulletShooter
with these contents:
tiddler echoTiddler with: {{
var stuff=store.getTiddlerText('$1');
stuff ? $2+stuff.split(\n).join(\n$2) : ;
}}
Also make the echoTiddler described previously.
Now you can call bulletShooter like this:
tiddler bulletShooter with: test2 '**'
Where test2 is the name of the tiddler with the text you want to bullet
and '**' is the type of bullet to apply.
Have fun,
Mark
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:12:35 AM UTC-8, Mat wrote:
I'm hoping for some way, be it via tiddler macro or not, to transclude
the text from a tiddler on the wikified format
**text\n
...but if there is no text, then (or nothing?) should be returned.
Thanx
:-)
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[tw] Re: sync between laptop and tablet?
If you use Google Drive desktop app, ie. not via browser, or I guess you can use the tw straight off. This way you can reach it from all your devices. I just started using DropBox that gives you a regular windows-looking folder on - I think - any computer. When you use it this way, you can just use the regular saveChanges macro to save directly. Hope that is of any value. :-) On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:58:18 PM UTC+2, Ittay Dror wrote: I'd like to use tiddlywiki in my laptop and also android tablet. On the tablet it can be just for new tiddlers (so not viewing existing ones). I cannot work with tiddlyspot, but google drive is ok. I thought of the following schema: * Keep main wiki on google drive * In the tablet, for each session, create a new wiki on google drive * After updating in the tablet, import into the main wiki. This avoid accidentally updating from two devices and causing conflicts (or maybe this isn't an issue). But, it means that after I import a tiddler, I need to setup the links to it. Also, is there an android app that makes it easy to create new wikis in google drive? Thanks, Ittay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Auto switch theme per device type?
Is there a way to make TW sense/detect what type of device it's on? What I'm hoping for is to use hideWhen to hide sidebars if it's via mobile device. Thank you! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Tables with tab space instead of pipe?
This idea for tables feels so simple that I'm probably missing something obvious, so FWIW: Instead of - or at least optionally to - using pipe (|) as the separator, how about using tab space? This way you can make a frameless table in edit mode which is converted to regular framed cells table in viewmode. I can think of some pretty simple rules for this conversion (ie of the type a cell starts wherever text is preceeded by a tab, except newline which... etc.) (BTW, exactly how do you make a tab space in TW? I'm forced to open some other program and copy paste.) :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: Tables with tab space instead of pipe?
On Monday, July 22, 2013 10:43:23 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I'm not keen on giving the tab character special meanings within markup (other than classing it as whitespace), because it breaks the printability of wikitext source. Otherwise a virtue of wikitext is its explicitness (compared to MS Word with it's hidden paragraph markers that act as an anchor for formatting). Actually, it's the other way around (unless I misunderstand you): Tab character was explicitly created to make tables. It is the de facto international standard to make tables. But maybe I do misunderstan you because I don't get what breakign the printability of wikitext source means - if you print source text then tab characters are printed as well, no? The other problem is that it is hard to type a tab character on many systems (eg iphone, ipad). Tru, altho pipe is also a bit iffy. This gives me ain idea for a plugin (which, if I could code...) - I've found that you, in edit mode, can include tab characters before the pipe sign and not have them show up in view mode. This makes it possible to create tables that are more easy on the eye in edit mode. A plugin could convert pipes into pipes+tabs on done'ing the tiddler so that the next time you open it in edit mode it includes tab characters! It could for instance use the header row as a template for cell width or perhaps use the longest cell content per column as template. IF that stil would break the printability of wikitext sournce, then maybe it's possible to store some local variable or array with column width that re-generates this display...in edit mode... (...if that is at all possible...) Having said that, I'd definitely like to evolve an easier to type and read format for tables. MediaWiki lets tables be typed as a cell on each line, which I like a lot. Interesting. Possibly a decent route - but still very much a compromise from a user perspective. It misses out on the very 2D essence of a table IMO. As to handling the tab key on desktop browsers, my current thinking is that for the majority of users the simplest behaviour is for the tab key to always move between fields, and never to insert tab characters. As with TW classic, we'll need to provide some way for advanced users to insert tab characters when they want them. Just a note here: In Cinta Notes, you jump between title, text and tags with tab key - but you can also get there directly with up/down arrow keys! Very convenient actually and it creates a more connected feeling between the fields. (Related: you can't tab key backwards.) Keyboard shortcuts are moving up my list for TW5. My aim is to allow it to be entirely driven by the keyboard, and to allow a high degree of configurability by users. You will, for instance, be able to navigate the tag pills and their associated lists. Interesting. I don't know how this navigation will be manifested, but again arrow keys for navigation may be worth considering as an option. :-) On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Mat matia...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Thanks for your reply PMario. First off, when I wrote tab space I mean only pressing the tab button (I was trying to avoid confusion from the double meaning of tab but I guess I did the exact opposite ;-) Is your point still valid then? (The center / right align is thus not relevant). Are there other places where tabs are used in the code? Regardless, if necessary it would be easy (?) to use some type of indicator where this should be valid. Perhaps somting like in current tables where you have a marker for the headline row etc Also, I'm kind of having TW5 in mind where backward compatability is so far less important anyway. The current pipe way is just very messy for anything but the simplest of tables, IMO. backstage: tweaks check: Use the tab key to insert tab characters instead of moving between fields - chkInsertTabs Aha, will try! The ideal, for me, would be to have tab move between fields - or rather, from title, to tags, to text (it currently moves from title to text) - and then behave like tab character. Do you know if this is possible? :-) On Monday, July 22, 2013 1:01:06 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote: Hi Mat, I think having tabs and spaces as table seperators is not possible, since spaces allready have a special meaning. And it would cause backwards compatibility problems a lot of them :) |left alligned text | center | right alligned| For tabs, just use the tab key :) backstage: tweaks check: Use the tab key to insert tab characters instead of moving between fields - chkInsertTabs -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl
[tw] Re: Some further TW5 thoughts/opinions
Another wanted feature (also for TW classic): To somehow see if a tiddler contains text or not without having to open it. The need arises from the fact that tiddler names are both tiddlers and tags and often serve as mere headings/holders (eg in TreeView menu) which forces you to open it to check. I know some poeple add a * or some such to the name to indicate content but it is a too frequenct phenomenon to not have automatic. Here are some ideas: * include info on this in the hover lable (is that the correct term?). Currently it shows tiddler name, tiddler subtitle and date, eg TiddlyWiki - Jermolene, March 20. 2012, 13:40. It could instead be perhaps read: TiddlyWiki [text] ... and TiddlyWiki [empty] ... or some such. What is less good with this solution is that you must actively hover. Also, this hover info is different in various places (eg ShadowMenu. And plugins can create it's own info, as in the case of TreeView that merely sttes that it's a link to.. ). * We have text formats to indicate differnt types, ie *NonExistingLink* * ExistingLink* and there is also *ExistingLink** *(eg herehttp://tiddlywiki.com/#Configuration). I think it would be elegant to extend this latter variant to also indicate an existing link without text. This is probably the most elegant solution to this issue, IMO. (BTW, in Shadow tab, it is not clear why some are bold and some not bold?). * Another variant could be to refine the manually appended + that some people use into autmatically including, say ° at the end of empty tiddler links: *ExistingButNoContent*° - the aim is something that is invisible enough so that you only see it when looking for it. :-) On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:27:35 AM UTC+2, Mat wrote: In addition to some previously expressed thoughtshttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/tiddlywiki/TW5$20Mat/tiddlywiki/0nmhoDZvIG0/wC0RsY87fbEJof mine, here are a few more: * Avoid all dead links in empty file. * tag systemConfig ought to be renamed into something less scary and informative, perhaps plugin or possibly autostart. (I think we're a bit home blind but consider how awkward it would be if, say, evernote or facebook required that users kept track of weird sounding magic terms). (...and if that suggestion didn't cause uncomfort, maybe this will ;-) * I'd love multiple tag fields, ie for different types of tags because: - it would simplify filtering a lot (I think). - it would allow users to tag *plugins *freely without mutilating the original tags - and the obvious, it would allow you to generally separate between tag types I get the impression a multiple tag fields feature is more suitable for core than as a plugin becaue it is such an integral feature. I've seen requests for this but there hasn't really been any solution. Tobias did create TagSearch http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#TagSearch plugin and, wonderful as it is, it seems to be a circumvention to make the best of what is possible. I can't comment on how to code this but interface wise - if you allow me to be a tad too intricate for this bullet list - tag fields (eg. in searches) could perhaps be on the form tiddler.tags3.contain... (for tag field 3), and the default field could perhaps be reached both via tags1 and tags. A plugin might be the more appropriate way to give aliases (eg Prioritytags, Systemtags etc). In edit view, adding a tag field could be with a simple [+] (with label add tag field) close to the default single tag field. Well, you get it. Sorry if this bullet point is too intricate and if I'm using the wrong lingo in my layman descriptions. * Not urgent but both TW5 and classic TW should have a logo (-s?). Maybe there is one, but then it is clearly not prominent enough. I think TiddlySpace has those circles as a logo, but not quite sure. I understand the user should not have to *deal *with that logo (ie to keep it visible or manually remove it etc) but it could really be just on tw.com and not be downloaded - just like all the specific tiddlers there are not included in empty.html. MediaWiki has their absolutely brilliant [[*]] (with a nice looking sun flower instead of the * ), just to mention an example. Logos are a marketing tool to create recognition for a product/brand etc. * On five.tiddlywiki.com, I like it that the menu has now moved to the right side. But it all is aligned left creating a large empty area on even even my 15 screen. Maybe it should be centered? BTW, I also really like the clean interface there in general. Really nice. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more
SequencedActionsPlugin
My goodness! I just found this, and I'm very happy I did! Thank you Carsten Dropdown; Lewcid has http://tw.lewcid.org/#TaggerPluginDocumentation ...for dropdown lists with checkboxes for each item, for setting tags. Maybe this can be used? /Mat On 13 Jan, 07:53, Stephanie Smith quarterd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using it. It's fabulous. I like the idea of including a drop down so that dependencies can be set without editing the tiddler manually. You'd want a multi-select list box, if such a thing exists in MonkeyGTD, because some actions depend on more than one prior action. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Simon Baird simon.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Carsten, I'm excited about this. Nice work. As for Jim's comments, I think this seems lightweight enough so you can just ignore it if you don't want to use it. When I get a chance I will have a play with this and hopefully include it in MGTD. I have some ideas about the UI also, something similar to the contact drop down but for other actions. Thanks for the contribution. Now that some time has passed, is anyone out there using this in production? Best wishes, Simon On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Carsten Thiele googlegro...@carsten-thiele.de wrote: Hello, i converted my Hack to a complete plugin. I Uploaded a Demo into this group as file: monkeygtd-SequencedActionsPlugin-demo.zip ( http://gtd-tiddlywiki.googlegroups.com/web/monkeygtd-SequencedActions... ) The html-Upload did not work, so i added the zip-File, that can be downloaded from the files area. When you unzip it, and open the file with this added to the filename: #[[SequencedActions%20Demo]]%20Action1%20Action2%20Action3%20Action4%20 [[Do%20Something]]%20Action5 or just open the SequencedActions Demo Tidder for instructions. Maybe this helps, Carsten On 17 Dez., 22:22, Carsten Thiele googlegro...@carsten-thiele.de wrote: Hello, i modified my monkeygtd to support sequenced-Actions. I use the normal Tag-Feature to Control the sequence of the actions. When i create an action that depends on another action i just Tag it with the name of the first one, and set it to Future. When the first Action is marked as Done or, if it is a Ticker, is marked as Actioned (only works for one-time-Ticklers). the second action is modified from Future to Next. There is no GUI-Support for this, i have to edit the Actions and type in manualy the name of the Actions in the Tags-Field. Maybe with an Example its more clear to understand: First Action: Action 1 Can be done when Action 1 is finished: Action 2 Action3 Can be done when A2 and A3 are finished: Action 4 I create the actions like this Action 1, a normal Next Action Action 2 and Action 3 Future Actions Tagged with [Action 1] Action 4 Future action Tagged with [Action 2] [Action 3] - Now, when i finish Action 1, the code searches for Actions with the Tag Action 1, and finds Action 2 and Action 3. - For each Action the code searches if all required Actions (only Action 1 in this case) are done. If this is true, the Action (here Action 2 and 3) are moved from Future to Next - If i undo Action 1, Action 2 and Action 3 are moved from Next to Future - When Action 2 is finished, again all Actions with the Tag Action 2 are searched, in this case just Action 4. - The Code starts searching all Actions and Ticklers that are referenced in the Tag-field of Action 4. It finds Action 2 as done, but Action 3 as not done, so the Action 4-Action is NOT moved from Future to Next - Now Action 3 is done, too. - The Code again searches for all Actions and Tickers that are referenced in the Tag-field of Action 4. Now it finds both Actions (Action 2 and Action 3) as Done so Action 4 is moved from Future to Next. The visualisation in the GUI for this solution is not very good. In the Project-Dashboard the Actions are not ordered in the right way, and you can not see that there are dependencies between the actions. But for me this is ok, its just for auto-nexting one of the future actions, so that i dont have to do a check of the Projects with no next action-View. Or Project Dashboard every time i finish an Action that is part of a Project. Maybe someone else can add some UI-Support to this solution. Until now i did not test it with MonkeyGTDs with many Actions, so maybe there is still a performance problem with this, but for my (at the moment) small test environment it works good. Next step will be more tests and the integration in my production-monkeygtd. Please do not integrate this without good testing in your production- Monkey-GTDs. Maybe there is still something wrong that can cause your data to be damaged! So here is what i have done. I modified the function
Re: Waiting actions
I like the idea of a drop down List. The TaggerPlugin suggested by Mat may help. But i think that the list of tags should be filtered somehow. E.g. only Tags that are used together with Action- or Tickler-Tags should be displayed. Maybe I misunderstand, but for actions it should be enough with that they belong to the project, no? I imagine this should be possible to implement just like specifying a Realm filters out which Areas that are presented in a Project tiddler. /Mat P.S Regarding my attempted thread name change; One reason I did not find this until just today was because of the not so informative old thread title. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Item 'layout'
Yes, but from a real estate perspective I'm wondering if the jump to another project feature is justified there. I mean, I very rarely jump between projects that way. ...while I *do* more often realize a that, I should recategorize something as a project or an action etc. Now, the latter feature does exist but only for some types and considering that it can only be one thing at a time, it is yet again a real estate issue to have it as separate buttons instead of a dropdown. Also aesthetically I think it'd make more sense to kind of have the information 'about' the item itself (meta information, if you will) such as realm and what type of item it is, grouped up in the right corner,and the actual content - the meat - in the center, keeping the user with his eyes on the ball so to say. Just an opinion. Or two ;-) While on real estate; For a project tiddler, I must keep the browser window maximized or the (indented) subproject of.. field pushes the associated contact to the row below it. I humbly question the indentation. For an action tiddler, the newline seems to be permanent (at least on my 17 monitor) Also, any moderately lengthty project title pushes or breaks the Updated 2 days ago (created 2 days ago) to a newline too. Thank you /Mat On 13 Jan, 03:09, Simon Baird simon.ba...@gmail.com wrote: It's there to give you quick access to a list of like things. Eg, you can jump from one project to another. Also so you can see what type of thing you're looking at. as for making it into a change type action, we do have buttons for changing between project - tickler - action already. so perhaps but not sure. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year everyone! Just a detail that I've reflected over before; In the upper right corner of project tiddlers, action tiddlers etc, there is a drop down list (and a [?] link). I'm not sure what good this does. However, it would be useful if this was a direct chang- into feature. I.e if I have, say, a project tiddler and this little drop down enabled me to click, say, 'Action', thereby transforming the tiddler into an action tiddler. Thanx /Mat -- simon.ba...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Quick adding a tickler - not even possible in the demo(!)
Maybe it is already known, but the quick add + tickler does not work. Also not in the demo http://monkeygtd.tiddlyspot.com/demo3.html nor in http://monkeygtd.tiddlyspot.com/empty3.html ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Waiting actions
Just a little followup form a user; I love the concept of SequencedActionsPlugin but in practice use I've found it too iffy with all the additional manual work it requires to write or copy-paste the names of actions as tags etc etc. For it to be practical, I say it would have to be integrated more - and I really hope it can be because I believe the concept of it can be very time saving. (Following core GTD in combo with mGTD otherwise means not updating 'future actions' into 'next actions' more than once a week otherwise. What projects can actually progress at such a slow speed?) Something like SequencedActionsPlugin would really allow us to do this admin work where it belongs, i.e during the weekly review. IMO ;-) Some thoughts on integrating it; * A checkbox-type-dropdown menu next to each action, listing all other actions that same project. I guess the dropdown-menu could be present both in an actual action tiddler, but also in e.g project tiddlers next to each listed action. There are typically not that many, and I think 99% of the need should be covered if there is such a menu for only Next, Future and Waiting actions... or even 90% if it was only on the Future actions even... ...but, more importantly, some way in 'quick add'. Actually - actions inserted there *are* typically already more or less in order, so maybe pressing create now could by default append the previously listed action as a tag to the following one. Or a 'middle step' before pressing create now - i.e a button saying action sequencing or such to do this and resulting only in changes in the quick add text field, i.e nothing was yet actually created. Another thought would perhaps be to simply have each row in quick add numbered(!) - either manually as items are added there or simply haveing a permanent numbering of each row (e.g permanent numbers showing outside the text-field) for each row. Thus, inserting a row number as a tag, actually represents the whole action (name) at that position. ...or, an invisible prefix to the names. I.e as it is not, actions are presented in alphabetical order. It is of course already possible to e.g number items so that they are presented in desired order, but it is not very elegant for many reasons. Ann invidible prefix would be more elegant, and of course in combo with the system automatically resetting an action from future to next as soon as the previous next was done. ...and for mGTD 8.5 I suggest... ;-) Drag-n-drop feature, i.e in project view one can smoothly just rearrange listed actions. Same inside the quick add tool. Thanks /Mat --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Monkey GTD request - Areas
I don't understand the question. mGTD has areas implemented already. ...? /Mat On 9 Feb, 17:01, Elizabeth eash...@gmail.com wrote: I've done this by pasting various mgtdlist macros into the notes field, which works but is not ideal. Let me know if you want to see that code. In attempting to find a more elegant way, I've run into the problem that in TagDashboards, I don't know how to refer to the title of a tiddler. That is, I don't know how to write macro=mgtdList title:'Next Actions' startTag:Action tags:'Next !Done (title of the area tiddler being displayed)' I tried using where:tiddler.tags.contains() but nothing happens no matter what I put in the (). Can anyone help? Thanks, E. On Feb 9, 6:35 am, nk henk.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, any news on this one ? I'm facing the same issue as the original author. thanks Henk Okay, it makes sense. I think the 'show actions on the area dashboard' functionality shouldn't be too hard to implement. So watch out for it soon.. Simon. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Doug dbordon...@gmail.com wrote: I do use contacts, and they're very useful. I have different contacts for different actions and projects within the same customer, though, so I don't think I can get to a comprehensive view of all the activity relating to a specific customer using contacts. I've given all the Projects which I'm using to represent a customer an area of Customer so that they're distinct on the Projects Dashboard by Area view, so I have a workable temporary solution. If this is a feature you can add to the Someday/Maybe feature list, I'd appreciate it! On May 16, 1:21 am, Simon Baird simon.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried making a contact for each person and then associating the projects and actions with that contact? As for showing action in an Area's dashboard, I think it's a good idea. It's not easy because Actions are not directly associated with an Area, only with a project. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Doug dbordon...@gmail.com wrote: I use MonkeyGTD every day, and it's become an indispensable tool. It's very helpful to me to see all related actions, projects, references, etc... organized by customer. I'm currently doing this by creating a project for each customer. This gives me exactly the view I'm looking for, but mixing real GTD projects with customers makes it harder to find real projects. Using an Area would be the perfect solution, but viewing an Area only lets me see projects, not references or single actions. I'd like to request that opening an Area in MonkeyGTD gives you a similar (or the same) view as opening a project. I'm willing to code it myself and submit it if you'd like, but I don't want to spend time doing it if you don't see the change as being in line with the direction you want to take MonkeyGTD. Thanks, Doug -- simon.ba...@gmail.com -- simon.ba...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Monkey GTD request - Areas
Sorry, I missed opening the quoted text in your post nk. I now think I understand the question to be about Areas also listing actions (or is it parhaps project-less actions?). /Mat On 11 Feb, 23:40, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand the question. mGTD has areas implemented already. ...? /Mat On 9 Feb, 17:01, Elizabeth eash...@gmail.com wrote: I've done this by pasting various mgtdlist macros into the notes field, which works but is not ideal. Let me know if you want to see that code. In attempting to find a more elegant way, I've run into the problem that in TagDashboards, I don't know how to refer to the title of a tiddler. That is, I don't know how to write macro=mgtdList title:'Next Actions' startTag:Action tags:'Next !Done (title of the area tiddler being displayed)' I tried using where:tiddler.tags.contains() but nothing happens no matter what I put in the (). Can anyone help? Thanks, E. On Feb 9, 6:35 am, nk henk.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, any news on this one ? I'm facing the same issue as the original author. thanks Henk Okay, it makes sense. I think the 'show actions on the area dashboard' functionality shouldn't be too hard to implement. So watch out for it soon.. Simon. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Doug dbordon...@gmail.com wrote: I do use contacts, and they're very useful. I have different contacts for different actions and projects within the same customer, though, so I don't think I can get to a comprehensive view of all the activity relating to a specific customer using contacts. I've given all the Projects which I'm using to represent a customer an area of Customer so that they're distinct on the Projects Dashboard by Area view, so I have a workable temporary solution. If this is a feature you can add to the Someday/Maybe feature list, I'd appreciate it! On May 16, 1:21 am, Simon Baird simon.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried making a contact for each person and then associating the projects and actions with that contact? As for showing action in an Area's dashboard, I think it's a good idea. It's not easy because Actions are not directly associated with an Area, only with a project. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Doug dbordon...@gmail.com wrote: I use MonkeyGTD every day, and it's become an indispensable tool. It's very helpful to me to see all related actions, projects, references, etc... organized by customer. I'm currently doing this by creating a project for each customer. This gives me exactly the view I'm looking for, but mixing real GTD projects with customers makes it harder to find real projects. Using an Area would be the perfect solution, but viewing an Area only lets me see projects, not references or single actions. I'd like to request that opening an Area in MonkeyGTD gives you a similar (or the same) view as opening a project. I'm willing to code it myself and submit it if you'd like, but I don't want to spend time doing it if you don't see the change as being in line with the direction you want to take MonkeyGTD. Thanks, Doug -- simon.ba...@gmail.com -- simon.ba...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/GTD-TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Printouts w/o TW title
On demand - a clarification:
(actually, I didn't get Marks kind suggestion to work ;-)
For this particular TW I'm using Mr. Bairds wonderful MonkeyPirateTW
[1]
What I want on my printouts is simply that the top 'item' on the print
out is the first tiddler right away.
It would also be OK, but not necessary, if the actually printed first
tiddlers title is also suppresed.
Testing with Marks suggestion in the StyleSheetPrint, i.e: .title
{display:none}
and alternatively testing with: #title {display:none;}
as per the following, does not does not affect the title as desired
nor in any other way, as far as I can tell.
/*{{{*/
@media print {
#mainMenu, #sidebar, #messageArea, .toolbar, #backstageButton,
#backstageArea {display: none ! important;}
#displayArea {margin: 1em 1em 0em 1em;}, .title {display:none}
/* Fixes a feature in Firefox 1.5.0.2 where print preview displays the
noscript content */
noscript {display:none;}
}
/*}}}*/
Any other suggestions? Thanks!
[1] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/
On Sep 1, 6:03 pm, Markk S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
I guess you must mean that you don't want the Tiddler title to show.
Personally, I *usually* like the title to show, and I suspect I'm not
alone. You may have to be more particular in what you want, since what
we see as the title has various components, like the modification.
By posting the following solution, hopefully I will trigger about 8
other responses, all more intelligent.
In StyleSheetPrint there may already be a
@media print { ... } group.
If not, make one.
Then inside that group put:
.title {display:none}
That should suppress the *title* only.
Good luck!
Mark
On Sep 1, 5:55 am, Amzg matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
How setup so that printouts don't print the TW title etc? I.e only
the
Something in StyleSheetPrint?
I'd actually assume that since TWs typically are personal there little
need to actually have the TW title in the printouts by default. Just
maybe it should be an option in [[Tweak advanced options]]
Thanks
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[tw] Re: TiddlyBackpack status
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/aac1387f27cd7d9/6faa0589232b875d#6faa0589232b875d On Sep 8, 4:39 pm, Swaroop C H swaroo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if TiddlyBackpack (http://www.tiddlybackpack.com) project is still alive? I can't seem to find any info on it other than the download link. The reason I ask is that the html file has obfuscated JS (as far as I understand) and wanted to check if this project is open source or not. Because if it is not open source or alive, then I will have to drop the idea of using it (same reasons as the TW as a long-term solution for (research) notes and documentation thread) Regards, Swaroop --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Requesting testing for NoteStorm
I would like to see a way to add a subtopic directly via the tagtree
menu, i.e there could be a little + sign just to the right of each
tiddler name listed in the tree.
Also, I think the paradigm with the menu on the left is not very
practical (albeit common) as one is forced to sweep with the mouse
over the screen a lot for when scrolling up and down. I'd rather have
the tree menu on the right, collapsable, AND the usual sidebar on the
right, collapsable.
Looks promising!
/Mat
On Sep 15, 11:45 pm, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dave,b
But not until I can figure out my dropdown problem...
It's caused by QuickOpenTagPlugin, put this in your StyleSheet:
.popup li .tagger a{display:inline}
Regards..
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[tw] Re: Scientific Research
Just maybe a decent starting point for leads is already at; http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#Examples I also recall seeing other compilations a few years back. I think tiddlywiki.com contained a list of what was then called flavors or that might have been a list in Mr. Simon Bairds monkeypiratetiddlywiki (mptw, itself a flavor, I guess) or maybe it was a showcase of TW's hosted at his tiddlyspot server. If I understand you right, you have not formulated your academic 'problem' yet. How about conducting a little poll here in the google group for suggestions, just to give you ideas for a thesis. Since you wish for it to be *about* TW, I'd assume you wouldn't mind for it to be valuable for the development of TW itself. If you're in the hood of the Osmosoft gang, maybe you could ask to investigate how it has been integrated at BT? If you, in deed, hope for it to have some effect on very TW design, then doing something in collaboration with the actual central development team (the decision makers) is probably a good idea. Or maybe some of the generous plugin developers in here have some questions that would help them in their generous efforts? Personally I think your suggesed question Are TiddlyWiki adaptations too complex for the average user. is interesting and would love to throw TW at some interface ease-of-use design expert. Or how about a quantative and comparative study, introducing new users to TW and other 'competing' personal CMS alternatives and evaluating e.g ease-of- use, desired features, intended applications etc etc? Sorry, you got me ranting ;-) /Mat --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: TaggerPlugin documentation
Maybe it's possible to find something via this archived internet service; http://web.archive.org/web/20080613202930/http://tw.lewcid.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://tw.lewcid.org//#TaggerPlugin On Sep 24, 7:36 pm, expat jdro...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have documentation on the TaggerPlugin? I was able to copy it from another wiki, but the original source website (http://tw.lewcid.org//#TaggerPlugin) no longer seems to be available. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Multiple sort levels
Thanks but I'm hoping for a more generic answer on how to filter cousin tiddlers and ideally even by the n'th cousin. Surely this must be a common problem with many standard solutions or even a plugin around already, that is economical from a processing point of view. Previously I cut-paste-trial-ed together a solution using arrays to store intermediate filter results, but due to my poor programming skills it became very spaghetti in the overall application and the result was slow. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks! On Sep 25, 3:03 am, Anthony Muscio anthony.mus...@gmail.com wrote: I cant solve your problem but I avoid this need by doing the following; Review a list of active projects, select a project Review a list of actions relating to that specific project That is if you create a view of your actions filtered by a specific project you will not see other actions be they part of active or inactive projects. There are I am sure there are plenty of ways to do what you ask but do you really want it :) Tony TonyM If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed something.www.tiddlywiki.com On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 06:26, Amzg matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: I have projects with actions. Projects can be tagged active or completed. Actions are also tagged in various ways, but it is not possible - via the action tiddler itself - to tell if it's project is tagged active or completed. How can you list the actions belonging to only active projects? An archived thread [1] suggests fET to generate sortable tables, but I don't want tables only a simple list. (I wouldn't mind using fET though.) Thank you! http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/930bbb... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using dependencies in Quick-Add
On 23 Okt, 13:22, Simon Baird simon.ba...@gmail.com wrote: An alternative approach: All actions listed in Quick add could by default get a Next tag, unless manually tagged with WaitingFor, but then as an action is tagged with 'PrecedingAction', this Next tag is eliminated. This would *keep* the 'Next-status' of actions that don't get a following action. Tagging with 'PrecedingAction' would also omit the need for a Future tag alltogether. Whatever is not tagged Next or W/F is, per definition, Future! This could work. The above example might look like this. (I'm choosing D for 'Dependent') Make sandwich .get bread|N .spread butter|D .spread jam|D .cut in half|D For dependence on multiple preceding actions, how about this; Along the left gray edge of the 'quick add' box there are lables for referencing a certian row in the 'quick-add field'. E.g the left edge (outside the actual writing field) could be permanently numbered from top down, looking like this; 1| Make sandwich 2| .get bread 3| .spread butter 4| .spread jam 5| .cut in half 6| 7| to smoothly declare actions dependent on multiple previous actions, you use the 'label', i.e 1| Make sandwich 2| .get bread|N 3| .spread butter|D 4| .spread jam 5| .cut in half|D3 6| .stick in toothpick 7| .put on plate|D|D2 (or, even more compact, maybe optionally to D|D2 it could read DD2 ) The same nomenclature could probably by used for subprojects, as long as they are declared simultaneously in the quick-add box, i.e referencing the line/label where it's superior project is. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GTD TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to gtd-tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gtd-tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gtd-tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
