[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-21 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thanks Mark S. I didn't understand. I do now. YES. It could be quite easy for me as I now understand what you saying. Decent text editors support "vertical paste" so it would be easy to get a number on each line and then in TW regex it into position. BUT I'm still playing with "how to do this

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
What I'm suggesting is that you don't need the counters -- you create a 1000 rules to apply a 1000 counts, one after the other. Building up those rules shouldn't take long in a good text editor (especially one's like Emacs that have column modes). -- Mark On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-21 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Thank you Mark S & coda coder For your further ideas molto grazie. coda coder wrote: > I'm not sure if I've understood correctly, but, that draft seems to > suggest that in Firefox you *may* be able to set user-select, either in > the parent element or in the before/after pseudo element

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The counters are generated inside pseudo classes, so they can't be selected. I saw a hint that suggested you could use chrome preview to make the text selectable, but it loses all line formatting. I'm not familiar with how your regex tools work. Do they re-iterate until there are no more

Re: [tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-20 Thread coda coder
On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 2:52:23 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > I read around the issue and then discovered that there are proposals in > CSS to change the behaviour but they somewhat in conflict with existing DOM > approach ...

Re: [tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jeremy & all ... This has been an interesting, useful discussion. A footnote ... Jeremy: This is a common issue, I’m afraid. Here’s one of many > StackOverflow answers about it ... > Thanks for that. I read around the issue and then discovered that there are proposals in CSS to change

Re: [tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston
This is a common issue, I’m afraid. Here’s one of many StackOverflow answers about it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24385171/is-it-possible-to-select-css-generated-content Best wishes Jeremy.

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
coda coder wrote: > > > 1 - If assistive tech can't find it, ARIA is failing. > Right! Its bad enough I don't think enough about disabled users. But simply making content that is there--but isn't--other than only visually and in no other way accessible is a seriously black mark. What you

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread coda coder
On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > BurningTreeC wrote: >> >> Thanks! I understand now: because they are css generated they don't exist >> in the DOM >> > > I suspected it might be a DOM-inique issue. Though obviously in this case > DOM-inique is hands

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao w There must be a way to do it! Its right now likely very obscure because I don't think most users are aware of this issue. I wasn't until I started generating CSS numbers. CSS numbers are incredibly easy and useful for ordering in TW. Being able to copy them in context would enable some

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
BurningTreeC wrote: > > Thanks! I understand now: because they are css generated they don't exist > in the DOM > I suspected it might be a DOM-inique issue. Though obviously in this case DOM-inique is hands off. The WEIRDNESS of the end-result remains for me. That a normal end-user seeing

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread BurningTreeC
Thanks! I understand now: because they are css generated they don't exist in the DOM then I think it's just the wrong way to generate those numbers, because that's how css works - it doesn't generate DOM elements as far as I know Am Montag, 19. Februar 2018 18:57:43 UTC+1 schrieb whatever: > >

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
The numbers are generated using standard CSS "Counters". The Tiddler render is produced from a series of regular expressions that creates the stylesheet at its end here: https://onepager.tv/tw_reggie.html#rx-mason-tids-jason-RT%201 On Monday, 19 February 2018 18:53:08 UTC+1, BurningTreeC

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao BTC The issue is NOT typing. Its copying CSS generated numbers. Can you copy some records with numbers at https://onepager.tv/tw_reggie.html#Perry%20Mason%20s1e1-8%20EXAMPLE%20TO%20TRY%20COPY (which are CSS generated) and be able to paste them successfully somewhere? (sorry, it takes

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread BurningTreeC
Can you give me a hint how you generate those numbers? Am Montag, 19. Februar 2018 18:50:18 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter: > > Right. Its not a TW5 issue. Its a much bigger issue. > > I was at first completely confused by it. WHY on earth is something you > can see on screen can't be highlight

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Right. Its not a TW5 issue. Its a much bigger issue. I was at first completely confused by it. WHY on earth is something you can see on screen can't be highlight and copied? It seems mad to me. Obviously at some level it MUST be accessible since its in the final page render. What surprises

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi, I cannot reproduce this when I type your entries in a JSON Tiddler I can copy and find it normally You said you have those numbers auto-generated? maybe there's simply a .toString() missing somewhere? just an idea -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread coda coder
I totally agree. On the spectrum of feature<->failure I'd err toward the latter. In fact, as a result of this intriguing exercise, I'm filing before/after under a similar heading as "goto", "eval" and "important!" So let me say this, Josiah: you need a solution that does not use CSS

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
As a naive user I find it bizarre that something I can clearly see on screen as simple text I can't copy as simple text. What happened to it! :-) On Monday, 19 February 2018 18:18:24 UTC+1, coda coder wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:50:08 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >>

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread coda coder
On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 11:18:24 AM UTC-6, coda coder wrote: > > > > Hmm... I know of a few people that might consider "uncopy-able text" a > feature. ;) > Ctrl-F (Find) can't see it either. (In Firefox, at least). Hit Ctrl-F, type #0001, nada. Hmm. -- You received this message

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread coda coder
On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 10:50:08 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > FOOTNOTE ... if you opened the Tiddler in edit mode you may get a bit > confused in wondering HOW does the rendered version relate to the source > tiddler? :-). Its because I am using BJ's Flexity plugin. The >

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
FOOTNOTE ... if you opened the Tiddler in edit mode you may get a bit confused in wondering HOW does the rendered version relate to the source tiddler? :-). Its because I am using BJ's Flexity plugin. The transformations are triggered by the Content Type and performed by

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao coda coder ... https://onepager.tv/tw_reggie.html#Perry%20Mason%20s1e1-8%20EXAMPLE%20TO%20TRY%20COPY It may take a while to load as this is normally my local file and its large and complex. You should land on an example tiddler that when you try copy by highlight it doesn't work for the

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
No but I'll do it now. On Monday, 19 February 2018 17:12:50 UTC+1, coda coder wrote: > > Josiah - Do you have something online I could look at? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[tw] Re: Tech Query: Pecularities of Non-Copying Copy!!

2018-02-19 Thread coda coder
Josiah - Do you have something online I could look at? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this