tspyder wrote:
Treesize says
7.9GB documents and settings
7.9GB all users
7.4GB Squeezebox
7.4 GB cache
7.4GB FileCache
Within the folder FileCache are a very large number of files. I am
assuming that this is the database itself which Squeezebox uses somehow.
It will take quite a
Gazjam wrote:
Found this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95605-How-to-downsample-hi-res-digital-audiohighlight=custom-convert.config
think its what I'm looking for.
Yes but did you try to have all default settings in file types , you
usually breaks transcoding when you
If broken it would normally be chucked (recycled). modern low price CE
is not worth the effort to repair .
I suppose that on warranty Logitech could send it back to china and
split the case and replace either the screen or the circuit-board and
sell it as refurbished ,but wonder if even that is
Lestrad wrote:
After the abort the scan seems to have re-started. Making good progress
for the time being.
___
Update:
Okay, after a crash and restart of LMS, the music scan seems to have
completed. But now it's running a media scan, yet I had made a point of
un-checking
... And if one Linux don't forget the usual stuff regarding read write
rights and users .
LMS must be able to use the new location . LMS is also have it's own
user in Linux
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danco wrote:
Actually, you turn out to be in the right area.
My router tells me that the device is currently connected and IP address
is 192.168.0.11, and the Touch connects fine to my squeezebox.com.
But in the SB info option of Settings, Advanced, it claims an IP address
of 2.96...
3483 udp should be enough to make it work for the autodiscovery , note
that it is UDP not TCP so open it for TCP won't help .
There is a cheat (I to had mystery firewall problems for a long time,
before i fixed it , for some reason the ports did not open for udp
broadcasts )
You can use the
+1 on flac this is the right direction you will find that wav tagging is
not widely or well supported outside professional applications .
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Especially the acoustic noise ,for example putting a NAS in the hifi
rack . Many of them are not silent at all and certainly not most
desktops or even laptops .
That was what sold me the squeezebox paradigm in 2006 , but the gap is
getting smaller if you nowadays can control a PC player from an
garym wrote:
Fixing your tags is not reorganizing disk. You're just
adding/correcting the metadata contained in the files tags (e.g.,
ARTIST, ALBUM, TRACK)
You can do both, although i never tried, after the tags are ok can for
example mp3tag also move the files/folders around acording to
Yep fix the tags , we all been there ,it's work but better learn while
collection is small.
Mp3tag , tagrename , puddletag comes to mind when doing this .
Also if you rip your own stuff rip lossles to FLAC , then you don't have
to do it all over again when you realise that you wanted lossles ,
It's like this , artist ,album,genre et all uses the database that you
get by scanning your files .
It is therefore faster , the software nows everything it needs to know
about the file ( including where it is ).
Music Folder is working just like when you browse folder via the
explorer in
If LMS is not running.
if you remove the library while LMS is running it will asume that it's
gone
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afiak a squeezebox is always 24bit but with the bottom 8 bits as zeros
when playing CD resolution at 100% volume ( this will then change with
volume adjustment and gain tags ) .
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PC is a quad core Q9550 with 4gb RAM and plenty of free hard drive
space.
I think I'm going to flush TT3.0 AGAIN and give EDO by itself a try.
Is sure enough muscle to transcode , but if streaming 192k as FLAC works
with EDO why not use that .
( OT my only 192k album is a DVD rip it only had a
dood wrote:
I can access internet radio on my SBT as expected. When I go to BBC
iplayer, it plays the recorded programs on the various channels but does
not play the live broadcast.
After assessing variables I discovered that this only happens when the
SBT is connected to my external DAC
garym wrote:
I could be wrong but I thought I read that with 7.8 beta one can stream
24/192 files with EDO and conversion to PCM on the server side.
it is said so , however when i transcode i can play whole albums , so
what is Turnandcough using for a server ? is this only happening with
Turnandcough wrote:
@cfraser thanks for the tips. I do rebuild my library regularly and
keep my disk nice and tidy. I don't think my system was the problem...
I just did a factory reset and a fresh install of EDO and TT3.0.
Everything appears to be working fine.
Before I start
Yes font size gets bigger and some buttons disappear when using ir , but
this is configurable you can set it to use the normal display when using
ir too
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Yes but it should fall back to small fonts and buttons when you Touch
the screen again .
I would not bother with TT3.0 myself ,but it says in some tread that it
does have options to turn of the screen , maybe a bug in that
functionality.
But it is easilly tried if you factory reset the Touch it
Similar experience here :) in 2006
it took 30 minutes ,but it was piont to piont wifi with my PC in
internet sharing mode ,that was saturday (had to learn how that
worked).
But after i figured what a LAN was and got a router ? I actually took
my bike down to town and fetched whatever was
fallenguru wrote:
IIRC the Transporter could have profitably been sold at $1k but they
upped the price to match the audiophile market's expectations ^^.
OT and it can't be to cheap otherwise audiophiles won't buy or they will
give bad reviews and replace with something more expensive .
And it is the right type of file ?
I created a directory for my custom images that are available to the
server all the time on the server itself , You can't upload in the
traditional sense you point LMS to a directory where the image is, that
directory must be available to the server.
So if
toby10 wrote:
Ok, then why don't you simply use those for your streaming needs? Maybe
because those solutions are clunky, confusing, limited, not user
friendly?
I'll bet many of the reasons you prefer a SqueezeBox for your local
music also applies to why many prefer the same hardware for
JJZolx wrote:
See if you can find some of the same covers that you've scanned on
http://www.albumartexchange.com. If there's a significant difference,
then you're obviously doing something wrong. If not, I'd chalk it up to
the cheap display on the Touch.
He say it also looks wrong in
Weird ? You pressed apply on the settings page when adding the picture,
the size seems rigth is also a jpg,png or bmp file it should work .
And the Touch are conected to the server while you try ? Not
mysqueezebox.com
Mysb.com proxies a lot of encryption handshaking for the more paranoid
services that would not allow such module sitting in the open source
local server so it acts as middle man .
Possibly a lot more could be moved to local servers as the whole tune-in
indexing of internet radio ,but it is on
I'm also starting to feel like an oldtimer .
The actual work of ripping and properly tag music is to much for most
people , they wan't music on tap :)
So thats how it is, having local files at all is the minority thing
audiomuze wrote:
Ok, thx...the manual wasn't at all useful. Last question, is there an
easy way to ascertain what the Touch's output is sending?
It is tellling somewhere that a stream is resampled ( can't remember
exactly where )so if it's not resampled it's coming in it's original
form from
I'm an absolute novice in photo editing , but do you produce the *.jpg
picture in photoshop to ?
I would export a jpeg copy and use that, it's the most compatible way to
tag in LMS afaik .
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Was going to say something then I googled project echelon and both
safari and Facebook crashed on my iPad , where is my tinfoil.. Spooky
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It used to have display bugs making it impossible to setup :-/ however
someone else on this forum have build a 192k capable version and
unitentionally done us a much much bigger service by providing us with a
Linux desktop version that works ! And is easy to install .
sebp wrote:
Look back at what chill said a page ago: his brand new Touch upgraded
its firmware before asking him for a mysb.com account.
It's not the reason it asks you for a mysb.com account.
As a side note regarding privacy, when you install LMS, you're prompted
whether or not you
chill wrote:
Chris
I just tried this with a fresh-out-of-the-box Touch (courtesy of Amazon
UK's lightening deal the other day). The first thing it asks you to do
is connect to your own network (wired or wireless), and in my case the
first thing it did after I entered my wifi password was
aubuti wrote:
I haven't used the EDO software so I don't know how it is packaged, but
the simpler and more effective solution for backing up beta 7.8.0 is to
download the 7.8.0 package and then save it and back it up with all the
other files on your pc. Back when I was regularly running
24/96 no problem on all outputs analog spdiff and optical ,more than 2
discrete channels no not that I'm aware off :-/ I want that to and hdmi
would be the way .
maybe someone has a detailed description on how to pass the nag screen
for mysb.com on setup ? It can be done yes .
But nothing is
That function may just be very specific ? I use it to customise the
backgrounds and the pictures must be exactly as specified to work . It
is probably the same with the sounds .
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Weird ? The players own volume then , is it near 100%
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bikerboy wrote:
Hi I have tried swapping to other inputs the cd works on all imputs in
the amp, so I do not think it is a problem with the amp.
Ok but what is the volume on the squeezebox Touch itself ? you know it
has a volume control :)
stop-spinning wrote:
I
Other than that does Async USB mean you conveniently totally bypass the
internal clocks altogether (if you have a good async USB DAC like the
MDAC?).
Thanks everyone.
Thats the general idea with async usb .
it was designed for use with computers as source in
Hopefully it not broken the Facebook plugin was broken last time I tried
, but it needs improvement so it migth stay broken until you actually
can type your own comments to the music you post and having the cover
art instead of picture of a squeezebox.
lcrim wrote:
Has anyone tested or tried the NuForce Icon uDAC2 Signature Edition
(with Asynchronous USB) with EDO to tell whether it will work w/ alsa
linux. Drivers for WIN7 are available for download and it apparently
works natively w/ OSX 10 but no mention of linux.
Thanx
Larry
cfraser wrote:
^ Cool link. It sounds MUCH worse in every way than what's built into
the Touch, so why bother? If somebody is new to external DACs, they
should know that there are plenty of them in the under-few-hundred-$
range that *are* worse than what's in the Touch. External does not
Did you ba any chance use a server running on your PC or
mysqueezebox.com ?
Touch usually drifts when running on the internal server , but when
conected to an external server it gets time from there .
In stand alone mode it is suposed to get mysb.com time anyway ,but it
does not work unless you
My 0.02$ the current software (server/player/mysb.com) hardly Touches
the devices potential I rather see some more innovation in that
department :)
Hardware is fine the actual music is still the same , the server and
player architecture is so flexible that given resources they could
probably
And on the same account if you use mysqueezebox.com
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You can use more than one genre tag or use a separator like ; ( you
have to set a preference in LMS ) .
Multiple tags is probably the best aproach .
The multilibrary plugin is probably a good idea .
But it may not matter after a while , if she learns to use the search
function or build some
I think a tread like this is highlighting the different ways people uses
the same product .
The original idea a decade ago was this client server aproach , where
you -not- be sitting in front of your computer while playing music
,server is elsewhere in many cases not even having a monitor .
You
Yeas if I where to go with this aproach I would just use a powered USB
to SATA adapter and just any hard drive left over .
Or buying a an powered USB enclosure for a drive .
I do not fully understand why manufacturer of USB drive's are spamming
thier products in so many ways with virtual cd
And the Touch have an UI of it's own one might have change to diagnose
and set it up , oposed to the blinkning light and one button UI of
receiver ? That helps a bit and wifi is better than previus squeezeboxes
.
That said mine is wired due to 14 competing networks , I use wifi for my
radio as
Re 2. make a copy of the image to each subfolder and clear and rescan
everything .
LMS supports embedded image if that does not exists it looks for an
image in the same folder as the music files not the folder above as in
the case with disc 1 2
Re 1. The music folder does not use the tag
lcrim wrote:
I have read through this thread a number of times in an attempt to find
a budget async USB DAC that offers an improvement in sound quality
without breaking the bank. I have two systems both w/ SBT that share an
LMS server running on a remote Win XP netbook w/ wired ethernet
diego wrote:
Hi Larry and Mnyb! As sound quality questions should not be discussed
here, I answered in this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94855-Triode-s-USB-24-192-plug-in-sound-quality-impressionsp=707244viewfull=1#post707244
Argh sorry for that I continuously mix up
paulster wrote:
Is your Touch wirelessly connected? Sometimes routers have a separate
VLAN for wireless or have LAN isolation switched on by default, which
means your wireless devices can see the internet but not other
ethernet-connected devices.
There are a number of different
paulster wrote:
They do it so if you're stupid enough to use WEP (or no) encryption then
anyone freeloading on your wireless connection can't get to your wired
PCs and, if it supports individual station isolation, your wireless
laptop as well. They'll get out to the internet and that's it.
And artist and album artist may not always be the same thing
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What kind of wep code ? Some require you to use some hex ASCII
conversion in some cases .
http://www.einhorn-net.de/jstools/wepkey.html
Besides do not hide SSID or mac filter it do not improve security and
can be potentially buggy.
(hide ssid ,does not *really* hide it , it is visible in other
The hex ASCII conversion is not for the router but for the Touch, the
idea was to try that on the Touch.
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Shahab wrote:
Hello everyone!
SOS! Help! Medic!
My previous set up was:
Squeezebox TouchD-Link DIR 600Synolgoy DS212+. Everything worked
flawlessly. Except for the fact that for me to transfer files from my
MacBook Pro to the NAS was a pain because the D-Link DIR600 is a g
Shahab wrote:
Hi,
My SBT on its own decides whether to show artwork or not. I know for a
fact that there is artwork folder in an album folder but it won't show
it. I just bought a Synology DS212+ NAS and am still dumping all my
music on it. It hardly ever shows any artwork. I control the
or just dowload these records again via a torrent client
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irons1965 wrote:
How do I keep my artwork displayed on the Touch screen (when playing
tunes).After a few seconds, the screen changes back to its clock
setting (as in when the Touch is off)?
I would check what screen-saver you selected for playing , you want now
playing instead of the
Watch out for sort tags too , Ella may be under F as in Fitzgerald
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Cut-Throat wrote:
Is it within the Music Library Folder or somewhere else?
Can you change the location of the index?
Depends what platform ?
Normally the database files are in the cache folder ( where that is
depends on OS but it's definetelynonmthe system drive, check LMS
settings info
Cut-Throat wrote:
Yes, I found the information where you had said. I have Windows 7 and
it located under Program Files.
I also see, that LMS does not let you change this as easy as the
location of Playlists and Music Libraries.
There is probably a good reason for this, so I am content
Interesting info . Did not know how it was done in windows .
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trott3r wrote:
Hello,
I have been getting a weird error on the squeeze box touch.
Music starts for a couple of seconds and then stops and a rebuferring
message comes up.
Its running off an attached flash drive so something is wrong.
Does it do this when the touch is indexing the
zeke46 wrote:
Before I decided to use your method I made a service request to Logitech
support:
The answer I got was that the time is corrected every time the Touch is
connected to mysqueezebox.com
As soon as you start to listen to your own music on a SD card (or USB
stick) the Touch is
aubuti wrote:
Sorry, I don't follow. If you connect a NAS that is running LMS to the
Touch, what wireless streaming are you trying to achieve? Do you mean
play local music from the NAS (which is not connected to the work
network) and also play internet radio, Pandora, etc from the internet
And also the need for re-rip may depend on the personal level
audiophilia .
Even a bad ripper succeeds without problem in -most- cases and give
bitperfect rips but which rips are not ;) a perfect q to ponder 03:15 in
the nigth or so.
And if it reaches the level of obvious audibility we are
the content of the Radio and My Apps menu is powered by mysqueezebox.com
in the background .
So this may very well be a loss of conection to mysb.com .
There are a couple of other ongoing treads on the subject, this seems to
happen a lot of lately ?
Check the obvious that you can reach the
erland wrote:
Most of the scanner is written in C already, most other parts are in
perl.
The main issue isn't the software, it's the fact that the hardware
hasn't been designed to run a big music server like SBS/LMS, and the
hardware is hard to change after the release.
Thats the deal it
mlsstl wrote:
This aspect of the Touch falls into the no good deed goes unpunished
category.
Yea and it is also a cath22 .
Given the limited dev resources spent , they choose to reuse the exact
same server that is made to scale on both PC's and more powerfull NAS
boxes .
But turning of
I add to the current playlist all the time and remove stuff to .
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The dB is stored on the attached USB device , if you use Linux, it is
hidden by using a . before the folder name .
So the USB device inserted must be writable too .
All iterations of the current LMS server uses SQlite for the database
and sorting , the older versions used MySQL ( but that would
lintweaker wrote:
Unfortenulately no, I do currently not have a plugin in LMS, would be
nice. I now used a few standard tools and some of my own code to create
a FLAC container with DSD-over-PCM data inside (just as a proof of
concept). I will do some more experimenting once I have upgraded
You activate remote connections on the Touch .
(some wher in the andvanced settings menu ) .
And you use SSH either via command shell (Linux and OSX ) or use for
example putty default password is 1234 suggest you change that.
The there is the cp (copy) command for linux just to figure where
philipbergman wrote:
Having now succeeded in changing the date/time stamp in the files so
they now display on the SBT 'New Music' list, they are all duplicated!
Any idea why this might be happening and how I can de-duplicate?
Any suggestions gratefully received!
Regards,
rgro wrote:
Hi Triode,
So it seems there is a two part problem. I was playing a low bit rate
radio stream and then switched to My Music to play some music off the
server. As soon as I attempted to switch to My Music, that completely
locked up the Touch. It disappeared from the
insomniac wrote:
Hello,
I have been using the Squeezebox Touch for about 6 months now, and I by
and large do like the hardware. However, I've found the software to be
absolutely atrocious. Is there a way to get a plugin for an improved UI,
or a skin? If so, which ones are recommended?
murrayb wrote:
Yes, I use Toolbox 3 and the Enhanced Digital Output.
Some of those mods makes low sample-rates dysfunctional, you are not
suposed to listen to such lowly source- material ;) some radio stations
are 32k or 22k .
If you use an external DAC with spdiff inputs , you can just
TheOctavist wrote:
there is no SQ difference whatsoever transcoding, no quality loss, no
loss of anything.
I wouldn't worry about it. Pay the audiophile stuff no mind.
Usually the reason for not using FLAC is iTunes, that group of people
are larger than the lunatic fringe in audio by a
Fluid wrote:
I would be interested in doing this as I run my LS on a Mac but would
need idiot proof step by step instructions to follow
Can you provide that and I will try it out?
Triodes instruction should read as remove lines with - in front of
them and the lines with + in front of them
audiocore wrote:
I edited the AIFF.pm file, and now aiff 24/96 is playing on my touch.
but there's still hiss on my sb3s, sb_booms and sb_radios. can I do
anything about this?
These player can only do 24/48 so LMS should transcode ? Have you
disabled FLAC for aiff completely ?
And remember if you synchronise several players, it is the least capable
player that sets the rules on what to stream, as all players then share
the same stream.
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audiocore wrote:
Yes, I assume I did. Because if I don't my 24/96 aiff files are
transcoder for the touch as well (to flac 705 kbit/s).
Ok one thing that message about 705k is bs it is wrong it is not true (
old bug ) but it scares audiophiles .
It pops up every 2weeks for the last 8 years or
murrayb wrote:
All of the stations I try to play through Accuradio and the odd station
played through Live365 plays too fast and it sounds like the Chipmunks.
No problem with the Sky.fm app, some stations in Live365 and no problem
when I access a stations through the internet radio link. I'm
To much system gain maybe ?
Use attenuators on the Touch and maybe on the power amp to .
Or DIY attenuators are really just l-pads cost you virtaully nothing if
you have a bunch of resistors .
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Connecting_directly_to_a_power_amplifier
Could not see any sensitivity spec on the power amp thou .
The preamp looks nice with adjustable gain so use that if you can .
If gain could be adjusted directly that's actually better than
attenuators .
If it indeed is not another kind of proplem (like msstl suggested try
another source or no
Yes I see this too ? The option is no longer there :confused:
Is deliberately or a bug ?
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blueadept wrote:
I'm missing one (hopefully not more) artist (Genesis) in the Artist
view. I have checked, re-checked and triple checked the tags, the logs
and whatever. Changed the tags, renamed the files, deleted tags
rebuild em. Whatever I do, it doesn't matter. It's not that it ignores
The HP proliant microservers N36L or N40L install suitable OS of your
liking ( some are using vortex box distro on those to ).
DIY some other mini itx based computer, a shuttle type PC ?
Successful NAS installs includes the new netgear ready NAS series, never
linkage and QNAP stuff, preferably
stereoptic wrote:
It seems that I can't connect to Internet Radio on the Touch. When I
select Internet Radio my choices are BBCiPlayer and another BBCiPlayer.
It is not possible to select the second one, but by selecting the first
one it displays several BBC channels. owever, when I select
Triode wrote:
Are you saying 24/192 music plays slowly - if so is it in wav files or
do you have native decoding from flac disabled? At present the 192k
support requires the files to be in flac format and decoded from flac by
the player.
I think he has aiff files .
Does not serverside
A bit of a cross post
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95067-Playing-24-bit-aif-files-natively-is-it-possible
There is an aiff bug
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17163
with exactly one voter, me that don't have any aiff files :) so thye
must adress this bug too
Some basics , do you use dhcp ?
What is the ip of the server what is the ip of the Touch .
What is subnetmask , and DNS etc .
The vortexbox is a ready made one or did you load a machine yourself
?
Does it suport WOL (wake on Lan ) does it go to sleep mode ?
Verizon fios is a good search
stereoptic wrote:
On the Squeezebox touch under
HomeSettingsAdvancedDiagnosticsEthernetDNS - which DNS Server
should it display? The DNS server on the LMS (an OSX Lion mac mini -
192.168.1.1) or the DNS server found on the router 75.75.75.75?
The reason why I ask is because previously I
lunchmoney wrote:
Of course a big part of the problem is that I don't have a clue for most
what you just asked me. See answers above.
When getting into this I didn't realize that you need to be a techy
Linux Jedi just to get the thing to work. Maybe this technology isn't
ready for the
WAV files do they really have proper tags ?
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FLAC would have been better as it has better metadata support ?
How do you tag the WAV files ? ( what are you ripping with ) most
rippers don't tag them at all afaik ,so you be left with file and folder
names as only info source ( no metadata about artists and album and such
things in the files
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